Re: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away

2009-07-29 Thread Del
No, you do not want to add silver to Kefir, it would kill the bacteria and 
defeat the purpose.
I always allow at least two hours between kefir and CS use for that reason.
The recipe is simple: two heaping tablespoons of live kefir grains (don't use 
the kits, get live grains) in a quart mason jar of raw milk.  Cover loosely and 
let sit at room temperature for about three days (maybe two if it is very warm, 
maybe more in the winter when cold).  When ready, strain out the grains (put in 
a holding jar with the rest of them) and put the resulting kefir, which should 
be thick and creamy, in the fridge to be cooled and consumed.

Take care of the grains in a holding jar.  Rinse them clean with filtered or 
distilled water every two or three days and give them clean milk to keep them 
happy.  You will grow many more grains and will be able to give them to friends 
and family as well.

Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: d...@altsystem.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 2:00 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away


  In a message dated 7/29/2009 1:13:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
d...@altsystem.com writes:
Peter:

I'm with you there.  I make my own raw milk kefir and drink at least two 4 
oz servings a day (sometimes more).  Makes a tremendous difference to 
digestion.  And strengthens the immune system because 80% of the immune 
system is in the gut according to what I have been reading.

Del

  Would you please give your recipe ?? Do you add silver ?? Thanks, Lois


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Re: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away

2009-07-29 Thread Del

Peter:

I'm with you there.  I make my own raw milk kefir and drink at least two 4 
oz servings a day (sometimes more).  Makes a tremendous difference to 
digestion.  And strengthens the immune system because 80% of the immune 
system is in the gut according to what I have been reading.


Del
- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Converse" 

To: "Marshall Dudley" ; 
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away



Hi Marshall,

Great report! Thanks.

I am a firm believer in probiotics and have appreciated their assistance 
in my own health recovery. The best probiotics I believe I have ever used 
were the ones in the homemade kefir I which used to prepare daily. The 
kefir seemed to provide more benefit than the expensive alternatives.


You might want to check the date of your source. Could it have been August 
2008?


Someone on this list offered, not long ago, a link for an immune enhancing 
probiotic product developed by Russian scientists called Del Immune-V. I 
wonder if anyone here has tried this product yet?


Blessings,

Peter

- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away



*Bacteria a Day Could Keep Kids' Colds Away*

Bacteria that are present in the body naturally and sometimes are added 
to food or dietary supplements might help ward off children's colds, 
researchers say.


A study done in China found that small children who drank a mixture of 
such bacteria — known as probiotics — in milk twice a day during the 
winter and spring had fewer colds, needed fewer antibiotics, and missed 
fewer days of school than children who drank plain milk.


Researchers have shown in some studies that probiotics can benefit those 
who are already ill with various conditions, and the bacteria are thought 
to boost the immune system's response to invaders. Whether they were 
effective at preventing sickness, however, was unclear.


The study in China involved 326 children, ages 3 to 5, who were assigned 
randomly to three groups: one given milk with a bacterium called 
Lactobacillus acidophilus mixed in, another that received the same 
organism along with a strain of another bacterium, Bifidobacterium 
animalis, and a third that received just milk with placebo.


In the journal Pediatrics, the researchers report that the Lactobacillus 
group had 53 percent fewer fevers, 41 percent fewer cough episodes, and 
28 percent fewer runny noses than the placebo group.


The Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium group had even larger reductions in 
symptom rates: 72 percent fewer fevers, 62 percent fewer coughs, and 59 
percent fewer runny noses.


Furthermore, when children in the test groups did get fevers, coughs or 
runny noses, they recovered significantly faster. Compared with the 
placebo group, the length of illness was decreased by 32 percent with 
Lactobacillus and by 48 percent with Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium.


The investigators also noted that antibiotic use was 68 percent lower in 
the Lactobacillus group and 84 percent lower in the 
Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium group, compared to the placebo group.


Finally, they said, children who received the probiotics were absent from 
day care 28 to 32 percent less often than children in the placebo group.


SOURCE: Pediatrics, August 2009.



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Re: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away

2009-07-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
No, I don't find it on the web either. I came in I think from the 
newsmax mailings I get.


Marshall

Clayton Family wrote:
This is wonderful- and what many moms know from experience. I could 
not locate the original study, though- do you have a link?  Thanks,  
Kathryn


On Jul 28, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


*Bacteria a Day Could Keep Kids' Colds Away*




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Re: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away

2009-07-29 Thread Peter Converse

Hi Marshall,

Great report! Thanks.

I am a firm believer in probiotics and have appreciated their assistance in 
my own health recovery. The best probiotics I believe I have ever used were 
the ones in the homemade kefir I which used to prepare daily. The kefir 
seemed to provide more benefit than the expensive alternatives.


You might want to check the date of your source. Could it have been August 
2008?


Someone on this list offered, not long ago, a link for an immune enhancing 
probiotic product developed by Russian scientists called Del Immune-V. I 
wonder if anyone here has tried this product yet?


Blessings,

Peter

- Original Message - 
From: "Marshall Dudley" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 4:11 PM
Subject: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away



*Bacteria a Day Could Keep Kids' Colds Away*

Bacteria that are present in the body naturally and sometimes are added to 
food or dietary supplements might help ward off children's colds, 
researchers say.


A study done in China found that small children who drank a mixture of 
such bacteria — known as probiotics — in milk twice a day during the 
winter and spring had fewer colds, needed fewer antibiotics, and missed 
fewer days of school than children who drank plain milk.


Researchers have shown in some studies that probiotics can benefit those 
who are already ill with various conditions, and the bacteria are thought 
to boost the immune system's response to invaders. Whether they were 
effective at preventing sickness, however, was unclear.


The study in China involved 326 children, ages 3 to 5, who were assigned 
randomly to three groups: one given milk with a bacterium called 
Lactobacillus acidophilus mixed in, another that received the same 
organism along with a strain of another bacterium, Bifidobacterium 
animalis, and a third that received just milk with placebo.


In the journal Pediatrics, the researchers report that the Lactobacillus 
group had 53 percent fewer fevers, 41 percent fewer cough episodes, and 28 
percent fewer runny noses than the placebo group.


The Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium group had even larger reductions in 
symptom rates: 72 percent fewer fevers, 62 percent fewer coughs, and 59 
percent fewer runny noses.


Furthermore, when children in the test groups did get fevers, coughs or 
runny noses, they recovered significantly faster. Compared with the 
placebo group, the length of illness was decreased by 32 percent with 
Lactobacillus and by 48 percent with Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium.


The investigators also noted that antibiotic use was 68 percent lower in 
the Lactobacillus group and 84 percent lower in the 
Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium group, compared to the placebo group.


Finally, they said, children who received the probiotics were absent from 
day care 28 to 32 percent less often than children in the placebo group.


SOURCE: Pediatrics, August 2009.



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Re: CS>Bacteria a day to keep colds away

2009-07-28 Thread Clayton Family
This is wonderful- and what many moms know from experience. I could not 
locate the original study, though- do you have a link?  Thanks,  
Kathryn


On Jul 28, 2009, at 3:11 PM, Marshall Dudley wrote:


*Bacteria a Day Could Keep Kids' Colds Away*

Bacteria that are present in the body naturally and sometimes are 
added to food or dietary supplements might help ward off children's 
colds, researchers say.


A study done in China found that small children who drank a mixture of 
such bacteria — known as probiotics — in milk twice a day during the 
winter and spring had fewer colds, needed fewer antibiotics, and 
missed fewer days of school than children who drank plain milk.


Researchers have shown in some studies that probiotics can benefit 
those who are already ill with various conditions, and the bacteria 
are thought to boost the immune system's response to invaders. Whether 
they were effective at preventing sickness, however, was unclear.


The study in China involved 326 children, ages 3 to 5, who were 
assigned randomly to three groups: one given milk with a bacterium 
called Lactobacillus acidophilus mixed in, another that received the 
same organism along with a strain of another bacterium, 
Bifidobacterium animalis, and a third that received just milk with 
placebo.


In the journal Pediatrics, the researchers report that the 
Lactobacillus group had 53 percent fewer fevers, 41 percent fewer 
cough episodes, and 28 percent fewer runny noses than the placebo 
group.


The Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium group had even larger reductions in 
symptom rates: 72 percent fewer fevers, 62 percent fewer coughs, and 
59 percent fewer runny noses.


Furthermore, when children in the test groups did get fevers, coughs 
or runny noses, they recovered significantly faster. Compared with the 
placebo group, the length of illness was decreased by 32 percent with 
Lactobacillus and by 48 percent with Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium.


The investigators also noted that antibiotic use was 68 percent lower 
in the Lactobacillus group and 84 percent lower in the 
Lactobacillus/Bifidobacterium group, compared to the placebo group.


Finally, they said, children who received the probiotics were absent 
from day care 28 to 32 percent less often than children in the placebo 
group.


SOURCE: Pediatrics, August 2009.



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