RE: CS>Got milk?
Ask most any druggist for an "eye cup". -Original Message- From: Sandee George [mailto:oha...@juno.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Got milk? Sol - I bathe my eyes three times per day in C.S. regardless of what is going on, If you can find an eye bath let me know as I have been hunting to get another one Thanks Sandee "The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it." -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk?
Sandee, I'll keep an eye out for one (LOL!) but though I remember eye baths from my childhood, I haven't seen one for donkey's years. Somebody must still sell them, though. sol Sandee George wrote: Sol - I bathe my eyes three times per day in C.S. regardless of what is going on, If you can find an eye bath let me know as I have been hunting to get another one Thanks Sandee -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk? etc., for cataracts
>From my experience, eyes and vision also relate to emotions - sometimes we choose to see, some times not. Vision = layers of emotion/pain. Eyes often improve when one does gall bladder and liver cleanses - Chinese medicine > wood element >>> eat lots of greens. Expand decisions rather than contracting to established boxes of safety... Deepak Chopra says 20/20 is blindness compared to extended sight... There is so much more if we just seek-look-n'see beyond limited science criteria. Then one has to get honest with themselves. As vision improves blockages in charkras are dissolved or is it as one cleans their chakras vision improves - hand in glove stuff. CC > From: Sandee George > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 13:44:20 -0300 > Subject: Re: CS>Got milk? etc., for cataracts > > I went to the site and read what was there, the bottom line is that > cataracts are caused > from toxins - so what is new in illness - get rid of the "muck" so the > body can function as > it was originally meant to do Man CANNOT improve on MOTHER > NATURE'S design !!! > From the ego vantage point they may THINK they can but it just never > seems to work !!!??? > Now I checked with one of my old lady herbalists in the country re the > coconut water and > cataracts - it was a wonderful conversation - which I will relate - Hi > there mother X, how are > you today - just fine - mother do you know if coconut water is good for > the eyes - she looks > at me and says - now how would a modern woman like you know about such > things ? I replied > I don't that is why I have come to you - she says - any time you have > anything wrong with the > eyes young coconut water will cure it all - so speaketh the sage > She went on to inform me > that the only thing which can kill the poison of a tree we have down here > if it gets into the eyes > is coconut water, and if this is not used the poison of the tree will > damage the eye - so thank's > to whomever suggested this wonderful gift of nature as one of the > assistants for eradicating > cataracts now I have my own home grown supply After leaving her > house I stopped and > bought some coconuts to start using it right away - I will share the > results later > Regards to all > Sandee > > "The one who accomplished it is the one > who failed to realize that he could not do it." -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk? etc., for cataracts
I went to the site and read what was there, the bottom line is that cataracts are caused from toxins - so what is new in illness - get rid of the "muck" so the body can function as it was originally meant to do Man CANNOT improve on MOTHER NATURE'S design !!! >From the ego vantage point they may THINK they can but it just never seems to work !!!??? Now I checked with one of my old lady herbalists in the country re the coconut water and cataracts - it was a wonderful conversation - which I will relate - Hi there mother X, how are you today - just fine - mother do you know if coconut water is good for the eyes - she looks at me and says - now how would a modern woman like you know about such things ? I replied I don't that is why I have come to you - she says - any time you have anything wrong with the eyes young coconut water will cure it all - so speaketh the sage She went on to inform me that the only thing which can kill the poison of a tree we have down here if it gets into the eyes is coconut water, and if this is not used the poison of the tree will damage the eye - so thank's to whomever suggested this wonderful gift of nature as one of the assistants for eradicating cataracts now I have my own home grown supply After leaving her house I stopped and bought some coconuts to start using it right away - I will share the results later Regards to all Sandee "The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it." -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk?
Sol - I bathe my eyes three times per day in C.S. regardless of what is going on, If you can find an eye bath let me know as I have been hunting to get another one Thanks Sandee "The one who accomplished it is the one who failed to realize that he could not do it." -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk?
There is a great difference between digestibility and the effect of the enzyme and the lactose/galactose/galactase on the eyes. That effect really has nothing to do with digestibility, nor the other benefits or drawbacks of factory farmed dairy over organic natural dairy. To say that digestibility or the presence of an enzyme or helpful bacteria have any effect on whether dairy products produce cataracts or not, has not been researched at all. Indeed it is the lactose digesting enzyme itself which is thought to be the cause of cataracts in some people, because (I read) it is thought to somehow pass into the lens of the eye. Therefore it is a great leap of faith to say digestibility and otherwise healthfulness of the product equates to no cataract risk from consumption. I didn't put forth the idea to tweak anyones personal belief buttons re dairy consumption, but to put before the group another possiblility of cataract causation. Because anything can be worth trying, to slow or stop a cataract and reverse it, rather than having to face surgery. As in everything else posted re cataracts, catching one early is the best hope of reversal, no matter what treatment is used. Mike, if you think this has gone too far off topic, I'd be glad to take it to the OT list. But to bring it back to CSI have wondered if CS use has something to do with why I am now able to (apparently--one more eye exam should tell for sure) not only digest dairy, but have not had any recurrence of the early stage cataract since the year of zero dairy intake. In the past two years, I have been misting my eyes and taking orally, CS daily. Given that not much else has changed, it seems likely that CS is what is helping. But again, I'm conservative, and need the results of one more eye exam to feel certain. I have also been wondering, since many people have reported successful use of CS/DMSO eye drops for cataract reversal, whether using such an eyedrop a few times per week would have preventative effects for us older folks who are entering the years when cataracts start to develop. For anyone who is curious, my current dairy consumption is limited to a very few items, and contains no regular cow milk, and none of the cheeses or additive filled dairy products that are also full of thickeners, etc. Organic (at least locally available brands) is no guarantee there no seaweed thickeners and other nasty stuff in the product. So I usually say real organic is just not available here. sol bbanever wrote: sol, One reason raw milk is so much easier to digest compared to pasteurized milk is due to the presence of lactase, the enzyme that breaks down milk sugar and which many humans are unable to produce. The experts I have spoken with deny the presence of lactase in raw milk; however, it is the friendly bacteria in raw milk that facilitate the creation of lactase in the intestine where it is needed. That is why lactose-intolerant people can drink raw milk without a problem. Pasteurization kills these friendly bacteria. Bob -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk?
sol, One reason raw milk is so much easier to digest compared to pasteurized milk is due to the presence of lactase, the enzyme that breaks down milk sugar and which many humans are unable to produce. The experts I have spoken with deny the presence of lactase in raw milk; however, it is the friendly bacteria in raw milk that facilitate the creation of lactase in the intestine where it is needed. That is why lactose-intolerant people can drink raw milk without a problem. Pasteurization kills these friendly bacteria. Bob - Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 7:49 AM Subject: Re: CS>Got milk? That makes no sense to me whatsoever, as organic milk contains lactose same as any other. sol bbanever wrote: This is their website http://organicpastures.com/ Dairy, when consumed in the raw organic and/or cultured state, will not cause cataracts, -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk?
That makes no sense to me whatsoever, as organic milk contains lactose same as any other. sol bbanever wrote: This is their website http://organicpastures.com/ Dairy, when consumed in the raw organic and/or cultured state, will not cause cataracts, -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk?
Sure I can. Since it is the lactose and associated enzyme that are thought to be the link between dairy and cataracts I don't see why the two are not comparable. Many human populations do not consume any dairy of any kind after weaning, and those folks lose the lactose digesting enzyme after childhood (forgot what age that occurs at). Some human populations that have traditionally relied on dairy products (any source) through adult life do retain the lactose digesting enzyme. Not all do. Regardless of what other adulterants or contaminants any dairy product may contain, lactose is lactose. sol Terry Chamberlin wrote: Five: Cataracts: Cataracts are also linked to dairy products. The galactose that is a breakdown product of lactose also appears to damage the lens of the eye, leading to cataracts. The next question is: Which dairy products? Commercial cows milk that is full of steroids and antibiotics, from unhealthy cows that are fed mostly commercial grain (genetically-modified corn) sprayed with highly toxic pesticides and herbicides? Commercial cows milk that has been cooked and 'homogenized' until it resembles liquid plastic? Humans have been drinking fresh goat and cows milk for many centuries without cataracts occuring (or cancer or heart disease), but it was from animals that were allowed to run around in the sunshine and eat what they were designed to eat (lots of green forage), drinking fresh stream water devoid of pollutants. You cannot compare the two. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.6 - Release Date: 4/11/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Got milk?
Real raw and organic dairy food (including colostrum) is available from Organic Pastures Inc. This is their website http://organicpastures.com/ Dairy, when consumed in the raw organic and/or cultured state, will not cause cataracts, diabetes, atherosclerosis and many other diseases it will prevent and in some cases cure these conditions. The cows on this family run farm are pasture grazed and fed 5 lbs of organic corn and organic alfalfa hay a day. The difference between this and pasteurized homogenized dairy is like night and day. This food is delicious and nutritious. You can order thru the mail if it isn't available in your area. Bob - Original Message - From: "Terry Chamberlin" To: Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 5:51 AM Subject: CS>Got milk? >Five: Cataracts: Cataracts are also linked to dairy products. The galactose that is a breakdown product of lactose also appears to damage the lens of the eye, leading to cataracts. The next question is: Which dairy products? Commercial cows milk that is full of steroids and antibiotics, from unhealthy cows that are fed mostly commercial grain (genetically-modified corn) sprayed with highly toxic pesticides and herbicides? Commercial cows milk that has been cooked and 'homogenized' until it resembles liquid plastic? Humans have been drinking fresh goat and cows milk for many centuries without cataracts occuring (or cancer or heart disease), but it was from animals that were allowed to run around in the sunshine and eat what they were designed to eat (lots of green forage), drinking fresh stream water devoid of pollutants. You cannot compare the two. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
