RE: CS>nail fungus

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Can anyone venture an estimate of what will happen when you mix CS and
vinegar?  Tea tree oil?

James-Osbourne: Holmes

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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:51 PM
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Subject: CS>nail fungus


<< Lynda Khula wrote:

 > a neighbor has a fungus growing under his toe nail can anyone give me
 > help on this, I remember reading somewhere that  cs will help
 > fungus.   thanks in advance  Lynda
  >>

Hi~
Here is a link and address about fungus being treated with vinegar.
Fungus

http://www.bcn.net/~stoll/index.html

Go here and do a search for fungus.

Try to get to this site, it explains how to cure it very well.  I treated my
daughter's with tea tree oil.  It took about a year and you have to be
continuous with the treatment, twice every day.  But after reading the the
above site, I got my Mom to try vinegar on hers and it worked just as well
and was easier and cheaper.  Many oils will work as will some over the
counter meds, but the key is to do it twice a day every day and continue for
a month or more after it seems to be well.
Karen G.


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RE: CS>nail fungus

[Wayne Fugitt]

At 11:53 AM 07/13/2001 -0600, you wrote:

Can anyone venture an estimate of what will happen when you mix CS and
vinegar?  Tea tree oil?


   NO... but it will be more interesting if you add DMSO !


   Wayne



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Re: CS>Nail Fungus

[mgperrault]

On 11/1/2012 10:13 AM, Melly Bag wrote:

MGP,
As i mentioned in my post, the jojoba oil is a very thin oil that can 
easily penetrate the nails.  This is why you dilute it 50-50.  DMSO 
only carries anything lower than 1000 daltons.
The tea tree oil and most other oils you mentioned are essential oils, 
not carrier oils.

Melly



A quick review of some of the literature shows that jojoba can be a skin 
penetration enhancer. The stratum corneum presents the greatest skin 
barrier and some fatty acids are thought to reversibly disrupt the 
barrier function.  One study showed none of the oily penetration 
enhancers  were as effective as ethanol, although jojoba was the highest 
of the 4 or so oils studied.


How about tea tree?

tea tree contains several terpenoids of which terpinen-4-ol shows a 
favorable skin penetration.   One study starts out saying this;


Since its introduction, transdermal drug delivery has promised much but, 
in some respects has still to deliver on that initial promise, due to 
inherent limitations imposed by the percutaneous route. The greatest 
obstacle for transdermal delivery is the barrier property of the stratum 
corneum. Many approaches have been employed to breach the skin barrier, 
of which, the most widely used one is that of chemical penetration 
enhancers. Of the penetration enhancers, terpenes are arguably the most 
highly advanced and proven category and are classified as generally 
regarded as safe (GRAS) by the Food and Drug Administration


 Terpenes are included in the list of Generally Recognized As Safe 
(GRAS) substances and have low irritancy potential. Their mechanism of 
percutaneous permeation enhancement involves increasing the solubility 
of drugs in skin lipids, disruption of lipid/protein organization and/or 
extraction of skin micro constituents that are responsible for 
maintenance of barrier status. Hence, they appear to offer great promise 
for use in transdermal formulations. This article is aimed at reviewing 
the mechanisms responsible for percutaneous permeation enhancement 
activity of terpenes, which shall foster their rational use in 
transdermal formulations.


The thing about tea tree however is that it will likely evaporate before 
significant penetration occurs.  Use of an occlusion method may therefor 
increase its therapeutic action.  Perhaps jojoba or coconut would retard 
the evaporation and perhaps increase the penetration by other means.  It 
is said that jojoba is more like a wax than an oil.  An ointment made 
with bees wax might increase the occlusion and reduce evaporation rate 
even further.  Coconut has anti fungal properties and so a combination 
of coconut, bees wax, oregano and tea tree might be good.


Another study on transdermal drug delivery found that of lemon grass 
oil, eucalyptus, menthol and clove, that clove oil had the highest 
penetration enhancement.  Since clove is also antibiotic, it could be 
useful.  Perhaps clove, or any combination of clove, oregano, tea tree 
incorporated into a bees wax base with the viscosity controlled by 
coconut and or jojoba oil could make a useful ointment.   This is what I 
do and it seems effective for many skin problems although I havent tried 
it on nail infections


There are medicated nail lacquers that are said to be effective with 
minimal side effects.  One could just go with it, or try to make their 
own by using tee trea, clove, oregano and some kind of lacquer.  The 
constant exposure and diffusion of the actives is the benefit of the 
lacquer, so this could have some value

Re: CS>Nail Fungus

[mgperrault]

Melly

I follow you, noting you had the promise of good results, if only you 
had not forgotten to continue treatment. Thats good.


Its perhaps worth clarifying that the actives in tea tree (especially 
terpinen-4-ol) are quickly evaporated and the wax was thought to slow 
down the evaporation and allow a continual application which seems to be 
important.  We might think that something was absorbed when a large part 
of it simply evaporated. As long as you have some pungent wax visible, 
some of the actives are perfusing out, but an application of volatile 
oils may have simply evaporated instead of being absorbed. The barrier 
function of skin is so good that many of the volatiles in essential oils 
like tea tree barely make it through.  So slow diffusion through the 
nail and skin might be the answer for the people that didnt have the 
same promising results you have.


Im not convinced that jojoba can penetrate the nail which is like 
plastic.  But maybe you are right.  Imagine a bottle made of nail 
material, you could probably store oil in itseems like.   The 
terpines in tea tree seem like they could get through easier than the 
oil, if only they didnt evaporate first!



On 11/2/2012 10:57 AM, Melly Bag wrote:

MGP,
All i can say is that when i applied the combo of tea tree oil and 
jojoba oil, i saw it disappear, so it was absorbed, after a few 
minutes.  My nails had improved. Had i not forgotten to continue 
treatment, i am sure it would have healed nicely.
I stopped using nail polish as most in the market now have toulene.  
Terpentenes are so drying, if the nails are dry all the more it would 
crack if  you use terp.
I tried coconut oil without any other oil as it is touted as 
antifungal and no dice.
Another thing, it is easier to penetrate the skin than the nail.  As i 
originally said jojoba is very thin, it could penetrate the nail.
In my experience, if i make cream with beeswax, the wax stays visible 
on top of the skin while vco is absorbed  by skin.

Melly

How about tea tree?

tea tree contains several terpenoids of which terpinen-4-ol shows a 
favorable skin penetration. One study starts out saying this;


Since its introduction, transdermal drug delivery has promised much 
but, in some respects has still to deliver on that initial promise, 
due to inherent limitations imposed by the percutaneous route. The 
greatest obstacle for transdermal delivery is the barrier property of 
the stratum corneum. Many approaches have been employed to breach the 
skin barrier, of which, the most widely used one is that of chemical 
penetration enhancers. Of the penetration enhancers, terpenes are 
arguably the most highly advanced and proven category and are 
classified as generally regarded as safe (GRAS) by the Food and Drug 
Administration


Terpenes are included in the list of Generally Recognized As Safe 
(GRAS) substances and have low irritancy potential. Their mechanism of 
percutaneous permeation enhancement involves increasing the solubility 
of drugs in skin lipids, disruption of lipid/protein organization 
and/or extraction of skin micro constituents that are responsible for 
maintenance of barrier status. Hence, they appear to offer great 
promise for use in transdermal formulations. This article is aimed at 
reviewing the mechanisms responsible for percutaneous permeation 
enhancement activity of terpenes, which shall foster their rational 
use in transdermal formulations.


The thing about tea tree however is that it will likely evaporate 
before significant penetration occurs. Use of an occlusion method may 
therefor increase its therapeutic action. Perhaps jojoba or coconut 
would retard the evaporation and perhaps increase the penetration by 
other means. It is said that jojoba is more like a wax than an oil. An 
ointment made with bees wax might increase the occlusion and reduce 
evaporation rate even further. Coconut has anti fungal properties and 
so a combination of coconut, bees wax, oregano and tea tree might be 
good.


Another study on transdermal drug delivery found that of lemon grass 
oil, eucalyptus, menthol and clove, that clove oil had the highest 
penetration enhancement. Since clove is also antibiotic, it could be 
useful. Perhaps clove, or any combination of clove, oregano, tea tree 
incorporated into a bees wax base with the viscosity controlled by 
coconut and or jojoba oil could make a useful ointment. This is what I 
do and it seems effective for many skin problems although I havent 
tried it on nail infections


There are medicated nail lacquers that are said to be effective with 
minimal side effects. One could just go with it, or try to make their 
own by using tee trea, clove, oregano and some kind of lacquer. The 
constant exposure and diffusion of the actives is the benefit of the 
lacquer, so this could have some value

Re: CS>Nail Fungus

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

Hmmm.. I wonder if a few drops of DMSO in the mix might enhance
penetration.  After all, that is what DMSO is spectacular at.  Lola H.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:31 PM, mgperrault  wrote:

>  Melly
>
> I follow you, noting you had the promise of good results, if only you had
> not forgotten to continue treatment. Thats good.
>
> Its perhaps worth clarifying that the actives in tea tree (especially
> terpinen-4-ol) are quickly evaporated and the wax was thought to slow down
> the evaporation and allow a continual application which seems to be
> important.  We might think that something was absorbed when a large part of
> it simply evaporated. As long as you have some pungent wax visible, some of
> the actives are perfusing out, but an application of volatile oils may have
> simply evaporated instead of being absorbed. The barrier function of skin
> is so good that many of the volatiles in essential oils like tea tree
> barely make it through.  So slow diffusion through the nail and skin might
> be the answer for the people that didnt have the same promising results you
> have.
>
> Im not convinced that jojoba can penetrate the nail which is like
> plastic.  But maybe you are right.  Imagine a bottle made of nail material,
> you could probably store oil in itseems like.   The terpines in tea
> tree seem like they could get through easier than the oil, if only they
> didnt evaporate first!
>
>
>
> On 11/2/2012 10:57 AM, Melly Bag wrote:
>
>   MGP,
>
> All i can say is that when i applied the combo of tea tree oil and jojoba
> oil, i saw it disappear, so it was absorbed, after a few minutes.  My nails
> had improved.  Had i not forgotten to continue treatment, i am sure it
> would have healed nicely.
>
> I stopped using nail polish as most in the market now have toulene.
> Terpentenes are so drying, if the nails are dry all the more it would crack
> if  you use terp.
>
> I tried coconut oil without any other oil as it is touted as antifungal
> and no dice.
>
> Another thing, it is easier to penetrate the skin than the nail.  As i
> originally said jojoba is very thin, it could penetrate the nail.
>
> In my experience, if i make cream with beeswax, the wax stays visible on
> top of the skin while vco is absorbed  by skin.
>
> Melly
>
> 
>
> How about tea tree?
>
> tea tree contains several terpenoids of which terpinen-4-ol shows a
> favorable skin penetration. One study starts out saying this;
>
> Since its introduction, transdermal drug delivery has promised much but,
> in some respects has still to deliver on that initial promise, due to
> inherent limitations imposed by the percutaneous route. The greatest
> obstacle for transdermal delivery is the barrier property of the stratum
> corneum. Many approaches have been employed to breach the skin barrier, of
> which, the most widely used one is that of chemical penetration enhancers.
> Of the penetration enhancers, terpenes are arguably the most highly
> advanced and proven category and are classified as generally regarded as
> safe (GRAS) by the Food and Drug Administration
>
> Terpenes are included in the list of Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS)
> substances and have low irritancy potential. Their mechanism of
> percutaneous permeation enhancement involves increasing the solubility of
> drugs in skin lipids, disruption of lipid/protein organization and/or
> extraction of skin micro constituents that are responsible for maintenance
> of barrier status. Hence, they appear to offer great promise for use in
> transdermal formulations. This article is aimed at reviewing the mechanisms
> responsible for percutaneous permeation enhancement activity of terpenes,
> which shall foster their rational use in transdermal formulations.
>
> The thing about tea tree however is that it will likely evaporate before
> significant penetration occurs. Use of an occlusion method may therefor
> increase its therapeutic action. Perhaps jojoba or coconut would retard the
> evaporation and perhaps increase the penetration by other means. It is said
> that jojoba is more like a wax than an oil. An ointment made with bees wax
> might increase the occlusion and reduce evaporation rate even further.
> Coconut has anti fungal properties and so a combination of coconut, bees
> wax, oregano and tea tree might be good.
>
> Another study on transdermal drug delivery found that of lemon grass oil,
> eucalyptus, menthol and clove, that clove oil had the highest penetration
> enhancement. Since clove is also antibiotic, it could be useful. Perhaps
> clove, or any combination of clove, oregano, tea tree incorporated into a
> bees wax base with the viscosity controlled by coconut and or jojoba oil
> could make a useful ointment. This is what I do and it seems effective for
> many skin problems although I havent tried it on nail infections
>
> There are medicated nail lacquers that are said to be effective with
> minimal s

Re: CS>Nail fungus home remedy from People's Pharmacy

[Dan Nave]

Cornmeal to treat nail fungus.

Here's the URL:

http://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2008/07/09/cornmeal-to-tre/

Dan

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 7:30 PM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> Another remedy from the "People's Pharmacy" is for nail fungus.
>
> It says to use a paste (like wall paper paste, perhaps) made out of
> plain white corn meal (uncooked) and "marinate" the feet for an hour.
> Is supposed to work very quickly, but the toenail will still take time
> to grow out, apparently.
>
> They also used white cornmeal spread around roses to take care of rose 
> fungus...
>
> Somebody try it and report back, please.
>
> Dan
>
>
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Re: CS>Nail Fungus Treatment with Chlorine Dioxide revised for PH balancing.

[poast]

Oops...

I forgot to mention that this solution has a PH of around 3.  If you add
about 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda to it, the PH is raised to about 6.5.

Tom


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From: "poast" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Kid does an experiment with CS and wins sxience fair award


> Hello Ode,
>
> You may find this interesting to read...
>
>
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2006088790&IA=US2006005024&DISPLAY=DESC
>
>
> Using a 5% sodium chlorite solution and 6% HCl as the activator you can
mix
> up this solution by placing 5 ml (1 teaspoon) of 5% sodium chlorite in a
> glass and add 5 ml of the 6% HCl to activate it.  Activation time is about
> 30 seconds.
>
> Next you add enough water to make 1 liter of total solution and use this
for
> the bath for the nails (finger or toes).
>
> This solution is slightly stronger than the one listed in the patent, but
it
> is still below any adverse effects for dermal exposure.  The solution I
have
> used ends up with 150 PPM free chlorine dioxide.  As mentioned in the
> patent, chlorine d ioxide is capable of penetrating the nail to destroy
the
> fungus living in it.  It can also penetrate through the nail into the nail
> bed where it takes care of business there as well.
>
> To be effective, you need to stick to the 1 hour soak time, and repeat
this
> every day for a week.  The fungus is killed rather quickly, but the search
> and destroy mission takes a little longer.
>
> Tom


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