Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Ode Coyote]

  Do anything with a big enough problem and you'll get some results.
The question that never seems to come to light is, are those results the 
rule or an exception.

 That's the bread and butter of the magic called science.
 Nothing is absolute.

I've read reams of stuff that are *made* to make sense, yes, even bought 
cases and cases of the Colloidal Mineral to distribute profit free just 
because people were interested.
 It never made any difference to me or most of those people, but some will 
testify it helped them.


I've heard Slim Sperling suggest that wave of energy was crossing the 
living room as he sold magic copper wire sculpturesand felt it.
 Then he teamed up with Drunvalo  Melchizedek and is not longer that 
vagrant living in a beater pickup truck parked in the yards of hosts.
[I've run in those circles for "a while" , observing..many friends 
still pumping leather.  I've taken classes in sales techniques...poor 
suckers don't have a prayer. ]


 I like a good "gee whizzer" as much as anyone.

Does suggestion have power?  Yes, it does.

Check this out

Derren Brown - "Paying with Paper"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vz_YTNLn6w

How to take someones wallet, just by asking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZohpDS2aMc&feature=related

 Conversational hypnosis.
 Believing is seeing.

 When a partial truth claims all others a complete liar...well...just be 
aware of what it probably is and watch YOURSELF respond to see how these 
things work.
 Keep a  part of you aloof from opinions of right/wrong, good/bad, 
separated from hopes and dreamsstop "caring"... and it can see things 
in you that you can't.

..your part in games you can't help but play.

 What is a hole made out of?  [What isn't noticed when looking through one. ]
Is a hole a physical object? [Yes, it is, defined just like all other 
objects. ]
 Can I hold one in my hand??  [Yes you can, but it takes using a finger 
and a thumb to keep it there ]


 Anti-believer and believer are the same animal.

Dr. Wallach recruits believers with antibelief.
 It's a "method" tried and true... a big red flag.
 "Define yourself by your enemies" [and the disgruntled will grunt in 
agreement ]
Many of the claims he makes are provably distorted , if not entirely untrue 
all the time.
The product is another issue.  It might have some beneficial properties for 
some people.


 It's not about the product, it's about the method.

He's no different than a  *Mainstream*  "god by virtue of devils",  just 
tail over heads on the same coin.


  There is no "right medicine".
 If there were, results would be consistent, somewhere.
 But they aren't, anywhere.

We have to settle for *usually* and the occasional miracle of sometimes as 
a side bet.

 Sometimes miracles pay off.
Who is choosing your casino?

On Miracles:

 Miracle "ARE", noticing them happens when you stop telling them what they 
should look like.

Is some one else telling you what they should look like, any different?


"Sometimes" they look like what you told them they did.

..don't drop that hole, now!

ode

At 04:55 PM 8/25/2008 -0400, you wrote:

Ode,
Dr. Wallach is also a vet in addition to being  ND.  I read one of his books
and he claims that several diseases have been cured among animal populations
and yet the MD's don't seem to have a clue. Could be they are using the
wrong medicine. By the way, have you ever read any of his books?
Paula
PS. Wayne I did try and trim this.

- Original Message -
From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.


> A nutritionists opinion of DDDL
> http://nutra-smart.net/al.htm
>
> Dr. Wallach does not now or has he ever in the past claimed he is a Doctor
> of Medicine (M.D.). He is a certified and licensed Doctor of Naturopathic
> Medicine (N.D.) Oregon License No. 533. Dr. Wallach was awarded this four
> year doctorate in 1982 by the National College of Naturopathic Medicine in
> Portland, Oregon.
>
> Dr. Wallach was much more of a MLM pyramid schemer salesman [liar] than a
> doctor. [Which isn't to say that he's the TOTAL ignoramus he claims
> everyone else is. ]
>
>
>
> > >
>
>
>
> >
> >On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Ode Coyote
> ><<mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net>odecoy...@alltel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>Ode
> >>
> >>
> > >>
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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Paula Perry]

Ode,
Dr. Wallach is also a vet in addition to being  ND.  I read one of his books
and he claims that several diseases have been cured among animal populations
and yet the MD's don't seem to have a clue. Could be they are using the
wrong medicine. By the way, have you ever read any of his books?
Paula
PS. Wayne I did try and trim this.

- Original Message - 
From: "Ode Coyote" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:52 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.


> A nutritionists opinion of DDDL
> http://nutra-smart.net/al.htm
>
> Dr. Wallach does not now or has he ever in the past claimed he is a Doctor
> of Medicine (M.D.). He is a certified and licensed Doctor of Naturopathic
> Medicine (N.D.) Oregon License No. 533. Dr. Wallach was awarded this four
> year doctorate in 1982 by the National College of Naturopathic Medicine in
> Portland, Oregon.
>
> Dr. Wallach was much more of a MLM pyramid schemer salesman [liar] than a
> doctor. [Which isn't to say that he's the TOTAL ignoramus he claims
> everyone else is. ]
>
>
>
> > >
>
>
>
> >
> >On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Ode Coyote
> ><<mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net>odecoy...@alltel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> >>
> >>Ode
> >>
> >>
> > >>
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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Clayton Family]

On Aug 25, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:



They or no they, "population control" is a failure, making any "they" 
a moot point.
"WE" are out to kill us, along with they.and WE have failed as 
well.

The population is still climbing.



We have met the enemy, and he is us.  - Pogo


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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Ode Coyote]

  It doesn't take a "they" to develop cancer.
I'm pretty sure that I can find a way without any help.
The population is still climbing despite your assertion.

They or no they, "population control" is a failure, making any "they" a 
moot point.

"WE" are out to kill us, along with they.and WE have failed as well.
The population is still climbing.
 It is NOT being controlled despite ANY who, having what-ever intentions.

More people, make more and more people and live longer than ever before.
Everyone who dies, dies of something, some time.
 Wait long enough and you WILL find out what that is.

 The FACT is, if "they" DID want us dead, we would already be dead.
 The technology exists to take the population of the entire plant to 10% 
of present in a few weeks.

The problem is, "they" live here too and they are not different from us.

Besides that, if "they" did manage to manage us, who would do all that 
cheap labor without such a surplus?

It is not in their best interest to make labor rare.
 After the Plague, Manor Lords had to plow their own fields or starve.
 The commoner survivors beheld a boon of riches and freedom...they took a 
hike leaving the Lords to pull their own wagons.
 There weren't even enough hungry people around to hire as soldiers to 
keep the serfs in line...a job with no takers.


If "they" want to control us, "they" will help us OVER populateand *we* 
are doing just that.
It IS a conspiracy!  [You just picked the wrong one, the one that would 
NOT help "they" remain "they" ]


 Assuming that "they" are thieves..[ and "we" aren't ]
"They" cannot steal anything if no one is around to make it, TO steal.
If there aren't enough people around who have nothing,  having *something* 
isn't worth much.


So, if "they" ARE out to kill us..."they" are complete idiots.
..which might be why it isn't working?

On the other hand, it's clear that WE are complete idiots as we empower 
"they" to control us when WE don't balance out our own numbers for the 
greatest amount of freedom.
 If WE decided to do that, there's not a thing that any "they" could do 
about it and "they" would wind up mowing-their-own-greens and 
carrying-their-own-golf bags.


 WE say life is precious.
If rarity is any measure of value, why do WE go out of our way to cheapen 
human life by over producing it?


 WE are hippocrites, blaming "they" for our success at failing ourselves.
[ "Americans" are not overpopulating, but Americans still value cheap 
hungry labor, making all of us a "they" as we sell ourselves out.]


It IS a conspiracy.
 Self enslavement and an eventual Suicide Pact as eventually, all the work 
we can still do, is worth nothing to us and sells for crumbs on a dirt floor.
See China, where there are billions of people eager to bust their butts for 
next to nothing, just to stop starving, and, one of the least free 
societies for it as they put up with anything to keep eating.


ode


At 03:28 PM 8/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:
With one out of two males developing cancer, I'd say they're starting to 
get the hang of it??


 Day Sutton  wrote:
> Read "Dead Doctors Don't Lie" by Dr. Joel Wallach.  He states that 300,000
> people are killed each year by doctors.  That's a pretty good start...My
> guess is that most of them could have been saved by making and using their
> own CS (EIS)
>
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
>
> >
> >  People aren't all that hard to kill.
> >>  "They" aren't doing a very good job.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Ode
> >
> >
> >  Articles in magazines all over the world relative to population control.
> >>
> >>
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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Ode Coyote]

  "What" was the truth?  That some people shouldn't have flu shots at some 
times and some that shouldn't, do??

 That any given doctor should be able to tell the difference 100% of the time?
Especially. when not consulted before hand.

The truth is this.  Doctors are humans that are expected to be infallible Gods.
 When *one* isn't, when one can't make a perfect guess in the millions of 
human variationsthey are *all* Devils.
 Even when not asked, they should prevent bad moves at bad times with 
precognition...or it's a conspiracy.


So, Doctors either know absolutely everything, all the time...or... they 
know nothing???
The reasoning is that doctors are killers because they aren't 
Gods...and they ARE-Gods.
[Worshiped with health insurance policies, dearly paid for by nonbelievers 
who keep those policies paid up like a religeon]


 Both, the flu *and* the flu shot can trigger dying.
The question is, which does that job more often, in what particular person 
at what particular time?


That doc had a sense of humor about being accused of being a mass murderer 
by those who come to him *despite* their belief that he's a killer.

Isn't that like going to a hangman to cure a sore throat?

That doc had a sense of humor ..a part of remaining reasonably sane when so 
many that you see are not.
 He's heard it a thousand times.  Doc, you killer, cure me NOW.  If you 
can't, you prove my point..and I'm here...for some "reason" 


THAT's the truth.
 I do it myself...much to my own dismay.  LOL

 Sorry Doc, don't mind me, I'm  just crazy... and happen to know it.

The TRUTH is.. people in general, are generally NUTS. [Just look around, 
not much makes a lot of sense.]


... and I ARE one.

Once upon a time I thought things should make sense, then I decided to just 
live with what is and dodge as many run away trains as possible.
..no longer overtly suicidal...haven't had a desire to kill anyone for 
quite a while now.


Ode


At 02:21 PM 8/23/2008 +, you wrote:

Ode

My mom had congestive heart failure, when we first found out we had to 
take her to the er, there the er doc asked if she had, had a flu shot 
lately, my brother had taken her,as I do not believe in them, any way he 
said that, that was the population control shot.  He said it sort of 
joking but you could tell it was the truth.

Mary
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>
> >People aren't all that hard to kill.
> > "They" aren't doing a very good job.
>
>
> Ode
>
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> >Articles in magazines all over the world relative to population control.
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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Ode Coyote]

  They only kill the sick ones that go to them, the rest die without help.
 Most people die in hospitals.
It's not being 80 years old and worn out or mangled up that has anything to 
do with it.


[Stay away from hospitals and you'll be immortal]

Really now
 The 300,000 figure is meaningless without mentioning how many didn't 
die...that would have had they not gone.


A nutritionists opinion of DDDL
http://nutra-smart.net/al.htm

Dr. Wallach does not now or has he ever in the past claimed he is a Doctor 
of Medicine (M.D.). He is a certified and licensed Doctor of Naturopathic 
Medicine (N.D.) Oregon License No. 533. Dr. Wallach was awarded this four 
year doctorate in 1982 by the National College of Naturopathic Medicine in 
Portland, Oregon.


Dr. Wallach was much more of a MLM pyramid schemer salesman [liar] than a 
doctor. [Which isn't to say that he's the TOTAL ignoramus he claims 
everyone else is. ]


1900   1.6  billion
19502.5 billion
20086.7 billion

That's a great job of killing everyone off as "Modern Medicine" supposedly 
gets better at it over time.


Ode [Not a fan of modern medicine OR getting really old.  AM a fascinated 
fan of the partial truth con that makes a total liar out of a greater truth 
where absolute truth does not exist, at all, any where. ]




At 10:08 AM 8/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:
Read "Dead Doctors Don't Lie" by Dr. Joel Wallach.  He states that 300,000 
people are killed each year by doctors.  That's a pretty good start...My 
guess is that most of them could have been saved by making and using their 
own CS (EIS)





At 10:08 AM 8/23/2008 -0400, you wrote:
Read "Dead Doctors Don't Lie" by Dr. Joel Wallach.  He states that 300,000 
people are killed each year by doctors.  That's a pretty good start...My 
guess is that most of them could have been saved by making and using their 
own CS (EIS)


On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Ode Coyote 
<odecoy...@alltel.net> wrote:



People aren't all that hard to kill.
 "They" aren't doing a very good job.



Ode



Articles in magazines all over the world relative to population control.



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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[kmilkowski]

With one out of two males developing cancer, I'd say they're starting to get 
the hang of it??

 Day Sutton  wrote: 
> Read "Dead Doctors Don't Lie" by Dr. Joel Wallach.  He states that 300,000
> people are killed each year by doctors.  That's a pretty good start...My
> guess is that most of them could have been saved by making and using their
> own CS (EIS)
> 
> On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:
> 
> >
> >  People aren't all that hard to kill.
> >>  "They" aren't doing a very good job.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Ode
> >
> >
> >  Articles in magazines all over the world relative to population control.
> >>
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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[mborgert]

Ode
 
My mom had congestive heart failure, when we first found out we had to take her to the er, there the er doc asked if she had, had a flu shot lately, my brother had taken her,as I do not believe in them, any way he said that, that was the population control shot.  He said it sort of joking but you could tell it was the truth.
Mary
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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Kirsteen Wright]

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 12:32 PM,  wrote:

> Hey thanks, Wayne.
> I don't understand the problem with the information, if you don't like it,
> delete it! There are some people that want to know what's going on.
>
> I fully accept that - that's why there is a list specifically set up for
stuff like this - the Off Topic list. I don't understand why you don't post
it there, why you insist on posting it here instead so we all have to get it
even when we're not the least bit interested.

I think this list has been really fantastic. I have learnt so much about CS.
I'm really grateful for it. I just find it so sad that I'm now looking to
see if there's any other list dealing with CS that I can refer people to.
I'm in the UK and I know how most people in the UK view posts like yours.
They're putting people off CS altogether and because of them peope are
feeling this list has no credibility. why can't you just post them in the
proper place?

Kirsteen

Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Day Sutton]

Read "Dead Doctors Don't Lie" by Dr. Joel Wallach.  He states that 300,000
people are killed each year by doctors.  That's a pretty good start...My
guess is that most of them could have been saved by making and using their
own CS (EIS)

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Ode Coyote  wrote:

>
>  People aren't all that hard to kill.
>>  "They" aren't doing a very good job.
>>
>
>
> Ode
>
>
>  Articles in magazines all over the world relative to population control.
>>
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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[Ode Coyote]

People aren't all that hard to kill.
 "They" aren't doing a very good job.



Ode



Articles in magazines all over the world relative to population control.




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Re: CS>Who kills people, Not CS or the people on the list.

[kmilkowski]

Hey thanks, Wayne. 
I don't understand the problem with the information, if you don't like it, 
delete it! There are some people that want to know what's going on.

Kurt
 Wayne Fugitt  wrote: 
> Evening Kirsteen,
> 
>  >> FDA Unleashes Mass Irradiation of Spinach, Lettuce and Other Vegetables
> 
> I did not see the relevance to Spinach, so I changed the subject.
> 
> >  Unfortunately it was just as a few of kmilkowski's posts came in 
> > about the goverment deliberately killing everyone off etc. He 
> > concluded that if this was the type of person whp posted to the 
> > list then we were nothing but a bunch of crackpot conspiracy 
> > theorists and he wanted nothing to do with CS.
> 
>How wrong can he be ?
> 
> 
>Your friend is way behind and had his head buried in the sand for 
> many, many, years.
> 
> Government documents, Kissinger documents, and train car loads of 
> evidence supports
> population control.  Heck, look at the AMA, the FDA, and the medical 
> profession.
> Not to mention the death rate from AIDS, and the very first people to 
> be vaccinated.
> Everyone treated by the medical profession, DIES. the few that 
> escape  them often gets better.
> 
> One great doctor stated in 1968,  Doctors of the future will not be 
> allowed  diagnose disease.
> treat and heal people, furthermore they will be used to Kill people.
> 
> Dr. W.C Campbell had an AIDS clinic in Africa.  Very interesting indeed.
> 
> Articles in magazines all over the world relative to population control.
> 
> >
> >You can say it's his loss but it is hard to persuade people about 
> >the credibility of CS when they see so many posts like these.
> Now, .. I wonder about your knowledge and study also.  
> 
> If he trusts the government, I would not call him a friend.
> 
> He likely does not need any CS anyway.  It will not cure some 
> diseases of the mind.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> ===
> 
> 
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