Re: CS>Animals and CS

2007-02-20 Thread Pat Lawrie
I used DMSO gel plus spritzed on CS on a lump on my horse. After one week it 
went from hard to a softer lump but didn't change much after the next 2 weeks 
of use. So now I've given up and am sending him in to the vet to have him check 
it and possibly cut it out. It's just under where you tighten the cinch and 
would always be a source of irritation or I would just leave it.
  
Pat

sol  wrote:
  One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it into 
their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their drinking water.

If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts EIS 
on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver into the 
tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 1/9 mix is 
well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually up to a 
50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some animals, like 
some people will have more sensitive skin and will not be able to 
tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually.

For more info check out
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/
and take a look through the Files and search the messages for past posts 
on the subject.

Personally, I never get any list in digest form. Actually getting 
individual messages is much simpler and easier to handle. And replying 
is much easier as well.
sol


djphe...@att.net wrote:

> We have a Maine Coon cat who is about 10 years old. About two years ago 
> we took him to the veterinarian for some immunizations for rabies and 
> feline leukemia. This fall we noticed a hard lump on his side about 2 
> inches in diameter. A veterinarian from another state told us that if 
> it was hard, it was probably cancerous, and asked if that was the spot 
> where the immunizations were given. He said this can happen and not 
> show up for months or even a year afterwards. We started giving him a 
> little silver in his water every day and in the first week, we noticed 
> his coat was nicer and his eyes were brighter, but couldn't tell any 
> difference in the lump. After a couple weeks, we "thought" the lump 
> seemed softer, but weren't sure. Then after another month, we were sure 
> it was smaller. Now, after 2 months, the lump is down to about 1 1/2 
> inches and softer even though we haven't been real faithful in putti! ng 
> the silver in his water. The other day I even saw him run up the 
> stairs! He hasn't done that in a long time. I wonder how much faster it 
> would work if we gave a shot right in the lump
> Another question or request  I take the digest form of the list, and 
> sometimes it seems like there's a ton of extra gobbledy gook in it and 
> some messages are repeated 3 or 4 times -- sometimes the whole digest is 
> repeated -- I wonder if when we "reply" to a message if we could 
> delete most of the post except for what's needed? If that's what causes 
> it, it would make it so much easier to find and read the messages in the 
> right order. Thanks everyone.


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Re: CS>Animals and CS

2007-02-19 Thread sol

Craig Chamberlin wrote:

Why not mix it with some saline and inject it between the skin and muscle,
 cats (and maybe dogs, don't have them so don't know) will absorb the 
stuff fairly quickly.

This is how a dehydrated cat is treated.
So you could get a lot of it into the cat.

Don't know about injecting directly into a lump.  I have always felt 
that if cancer is contained in a lump and getting smaller, DON"T poke a 
hole in it.  I lost a mother-in-law, because an itchy surgeon wanted to 
remove a cancerous lump in her brain, which was responding to radiation 
therapy, but not fast enough for him.  He guaranteed her a normal full 
life.  Yeah, right..can you say metastasized and dead within 6 months.  
This was back in 1988.


Exactly why I'd use a mix of EIS/DMSO applied topically.

Dehydrated cats and other animals are treated with subcutaneous 
fluids...meaning Lactated Ringer's, or Normosol. I don't trust 
anything else, and would never myself use a homemade solution of any 
kind for subQ.


sol


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Re: CS>Animals and CS

2007-02-19 Thread Craig Chamberlin

Hi sol,

One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it 
into their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their 
drinking water.


Why not mix it with some saline and inject it between the skin and 
muscle, cats (and maybe dogs, don't have them so don't know) will absorb 
the stuff fairly quickly.  This is how a dehydrated cat is treated.  So 
you could get a lot of it into the cat.


If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts 
EIS on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver 
into the tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 
1/9 mix is well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually 
up to a 50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some 
animals, like some people will have more sensitive skin and will not 
be able to tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually.


Don't know about injecting directly into a lump.  I have always felt 
that if cancer is contained in a lump and getting smaller, DON"T poke a 
hole in it.  I lost a mother-in-law, because an itchy surgeon wanted to 
remove a cancerous lump in her brain, which was responding to radiation 
therapy, but not fast enough for him.  He guaranteed her a normal full 
life.  Yeah, right..can you say metastasized and dead within 6 months.  
This was back in 1988.


FWIW,

Craig


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Re: CS>Animals and CS

2007-02-19 Thread sol
One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it into 
their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their drinking water.


If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts EIS 
on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver into the 
tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 1/9 mix is 
well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually up to a 
50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some animals, like 
some people will have more sensitive skin and will not be able to 
tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually.


For more info check out
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/
and take a look through the Files and search the messages for past posts 
on the subject.


Personally, I never get any list in digest form. Actually getting 
individual messages is much simpler and easier to handle. And replying 
is much easier as well.

sol


djphe...@att.net wrote:

We have a Maine Coon cat who is about 10 years old.  About two years ago 
we took him to the veterinarian for some immunizations for rabies and 
feline leukemia.  This fall we noticed a hard lump on his side about 2 
inches in diameter.  A veterinarian from another state told us that if 
it was hard, it was probably cancerous, and asked if that was the spot 
where the immunizations were given.  He said this can happen and not 
show up for months or even a year afterwards.  We started giving him a 
little silver in his water every day and in the first week, we noticed 
his coat was nicer and his eyes were brighter, but couldn't tell any 
difference in the lump.  After a couple weeks, we "thought" the lump 
seemed softer, but weren't sure.  Then after another month, we were sure 
it was smaller.  Now, after 2 months, the lump is down to about 1 1/2 
inches and softer even though we haven't been real faithful in putti! ng 
the silver in his water.  The other day I even saw him run up the 
stairs!  He hasn't done that in a long time. I wonder how much faster it 
would work if we gave a shot right in the lump
Another question or request  I take the digest form of the list, and 
sometimes it seems like there's a ton of extra gobbledy gook in it and 
some messages are repeated 3 or 4 times -- sometimes the whole digest is 
repeated --  I wonder if when we "reply" to a message if we could  
delete most of the post except for what's needed?  If that's what causes 
it, it would make it so much easier to find and read the messages in the 
right order.  Thanks everyone.



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Re: CS>animals and CS

2001-12-28 Thread Nina Silver
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Subject: Re: CS>animals and CS


> Nina:
> We have two middle-aged neutered male house cats.
> How much CS should we start with to the regular water bowl?
> What PPM do you use? How much does one increase at a time?
> At what point does one level off for maintenance?
> Can one put CS in with our Beta? We've had it for 8 months!
> Same questions as above as to the fish.
> What's your opinion as to giving a 12 year old German Shepherd CS?
> He has the problem in the hind quarters. He's otherwise in good shape.
> We've tried to get him to take flaxseed oil mixed in his 'wet food' but he
> most of the time vomits it up.
> We pulverize MSM and Gluclosomine (sp?) into his 'wet food' at alternating
> times. He takes that OK.
> If you have the time, we would like your opinion and/or experience in this
> area.
> Thanks,
> Thom

Thom,
Thank you for allowing me to share your question and my answer with the
entire Silver List. As you will discover the more you read the CS posts,
there are many knowledgeable people on this list. And I think that many
people will be interested in exploring the issues that you raise.

In answer to your general question about feeding animals CS: Many people,
including myself, simply fill the animal's bowl with 5 to 12 PPM (part per
million) Colloidal Silver. The animals drink it *instead* of water. This is
a preventive measure. It's even more important, if the animal is sick, to
replace all water with CS--that is, unless the animal has too many detox
reactions too quickly. In a human, a detox response can include fatigue,
headache, nausea and even vomiting, and discharges through the skin. The
animal experts on this list will know more than I what constitutes a detox
reaction in a dog. The age of the animal shouldn't make a difference in
whether you feed it Cs--though again, it's best to monitor the animal and
see how it behaves.

You ask about a Beta. I'm not familiar with this term, so can't make any
suggestions. As for fish--I have no idea! I tend to think not, but perhaps
someone else has had experience with this.

Why are you giving your 12-year-old German Shepherd flax oil? You say that
he vomits it. Perhaps he isn't digesting fats very well and is lacking the
enzyme lipase. If it were my dog, I'd be feeding him Wobenzymes, an enzyme
supplement that comes from Europe and that in Germany, outsells all the
allopathic anti-inflammatory medications combined because it works so well,
naturally.

You also say that your Shepherd eats wet food. Is this homemade, or from a
commercial dog company? Most commercial dog and cat foods contain the flesh,
fur and feathers of euthanized animals, as well as indigestible
high-cellulose fiber hulls from grain hulled in grain mills. There are a
number of BARFers on this list (including myself) -- people who BARF their
dogs. In this case, BARF doesn't mean vomit, but rather Bones And Raw Food
or Bio-Active Raw Food. I feed my 11-year-old and 8-year-old dogs raw foods,
as close to what their ancestors eat in the wild, and my animal friends have
never been healthier. You might want to research the work of Ian
Billinghurst on the internet.

Good luck with your pets, and don't be shy about asking questions on the
list. There are many people in all stages of learning here, and we're all
glad to help each other.

Regards,
Nina Silver


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