Re: CS>Animals and CS
I used DMSO gel plus spritzed on CS on a lump on my horse. After one week it went from hard to a softer lump but didn't change much after the next 2 weeks of use. So now I've given up and am sending him in to the vet to have him check it and possibly cut it out. It's just under where you tighten the cinch and would always be a source of irritation or I would just leave it. Pat sol wrote: One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it into their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their drinking water. If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts EIS on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver into the tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 1/9 mix is well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually up to a 50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some animals, like some people will have more sensitive skin and will not be able to tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually. For more info check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/ and take a look through the Files and search the messages for past posts on the subject. Personally, I never get any list in digest form. Actually getting individual messages is much simpler and easier to handle. And replying is much easier as well. sol djphe...@att.net wrote: > We have a Maine Coon cat who is about 10 years old. About two years ago > we took him to the veterinarian for some immunizations for rabies and > feline leukemia. This fall we noticed a hard lump on his side about 2 > inches in diameter. A veterinarian from another state told us that if > it was hard, it was probably cancerous, and asked if that was the spot > where the immunizations were given. He said this can happen and not > show up for months or even a year afterwards. We started giving him a > little silver in his water every day and in the first week, we noticed > his coat was nicer and his eyes were brighter, but couldn't tell any > difference in the lump. After a couple weeks, we "thought" the lump > seemed softer, but weren't sure. Then after another month, we were sure > it was smaller. Now, after 2 months, the lump is down to about 1 1/2 > inches and softer even though we haven't been real faithful in putti! ng > the silver in his water. The other day I even saw him run up the > stairs! He hasn't done that in a long time. I wonder how much faster it > would work if we gave a shot right in the lump > Another question or request I take the digest form of the list, and > sometimes it seems like there's a ton of extra gobbledy gook in it and > some messages are repeated 3 or 4 times -- sometimes the whole digest is > repeated -- I wonder if when we "reply" to a message if we could > delete most of the post except for what's needed? If that's what causes > it, it would make it so much easier to find and read the messages in the > right order. Thanks everyone. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
Re: CS>Animals and CS
Craig Chamberlin wrote: Why not mix it with some saline and inject it between the skin and muscle, cats (and maybe dogs, don't have them so don't know) will absorb the stuff fairly quickly. This is how a dehydrated cat is treated. So you could get a lot of it into the cat. Don't know about injecting directly into a lump. I have always felt that if cancer is contained in a lump and getting smaller, DON"T poke a hole in it. I lost a mother-in-law, because an itchy surgeon wanted to remove a cancerous lump in her brain, which was responding to radiation therapy, but not fast enough for him. He guaranteed her a normal full life. Yeah, right..can you say metastasized and dead within 6 months. This was back in 1988. Exactly why I'd use a mix of EIS/DMSO applied topically. Dehydrated cats and other animals are treated with subcutaneous fluids...meaning Lactated Ringer's, or Normosol. I don't trust anything else, and would never myself use a homemade solution of any kind for subQ. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Animals and CS
Hi sol, One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it into their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their drinking water. Why not mix it with some saline and inject it between the skin and muscle, cats (and maybe dogs, don't have them so don't know) will absorb the stuff fairly quickly. This is how a dehydrated cat is treated. So you could get a lot of it into the cat. If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts EIS on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver into the tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 1/9 mix is well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually up to a 50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some animals, like some people will have more sensitive skin and will not be able to tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually. Don't know about injecting directly into a lump. I have always felt that if cancer is contained in a lump and getting smaller, DON"T poke a hole in it. I lost a mother-in-law, because an itchy surgeon wanted to remove a cancerous lump in her brain, which was responding to radiation therapy, but not fast enough for him. He guaranteed her a normal full life. Yeah, right..can you say metastasized and dead within 6 months. This was back in 1988. FWIW, Craig -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Animals and CS
One way to get a good amount of EIS (CS) into animals is to put it into their drinking water, or give it to them straight AS their drinking water. If this was my cat, I'd be putting a mix of 1 part DMSO and 9 parts EIS on the lump at least once a day. The DMSO will take the silver into the tissues, nearly as good as an injection into the lump. If the 1/9 mix is well tolerated, I would increase the DMSO portion gradually up to a 50/50 mix, as tolerated by the cat. I imagine that some animals, like some people will have more sensitive skin and will not be able to tolerate a 50/50 mix, which is why I would work up gradually. For more info check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SilverPets/ and take a look through the Files and search the messages for past posts on the subject. Personally, I never get any list in digest form. Actually getting individual messages is much simpler and easier to handle. And replying is much easier as well. sol djphe...@att.net wrote: We have a Maine Coon cat who is about 10 years old. About two years ago we took him to the veterinarian for some immunizations for rabies and feline leukemia. This fall we noticed a hard lump on his side about 2 inches in diameter. A veterinarian from another state told us that if it was hard, it was probably cancerous, and asked if that was the spot where the immunizations were given. He said this can happen and not show up for months or even a year afterwards. We started giving him a little silver in his water every day and in the first week, we noticed his coat was nicer and his eyes were brighter, but couldn't tell any difference in the lump. After a couple weeks, we "thought" the lump seemed softer, but weren't sure. Then after another month, we were sure it was smaller. Now, after 2 months, the lump is down to about 1 1/2 inches and softer even though we haven't been real faithful in putti! ng the silver in his water. The other day I even saw him run up the stairs! He hasn't done that in a long time. I wonder how much faster it would work if we gave a shot right in the lump Another question or request I take the digest form of the list, and sometimes it seems like there's a ton of extra gobbledy gook in it and some messages are repeated 3 or 4 times -- sometimes the whole digest is repeated -- I wonder if when we "reply" to a message if we could delete most of the post except for what's needed? If that's what causes it, it would make it so much easier to find and read the messages in the right order. Thanks everyone. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>animals and CS
- Original Message - From: To: Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: Re: CS>animals and CS > Nina: > We have two middle-aged neutered male house cats. > How much CS should we start with to the regular water bowl? > What PPM do you use? How much does one increase at a time? > At what point does one level off for maintenance? > Can one put CS in with our Beta? We've had it for 8 months! > Same questions as above as to the fish. > What's your opinion as to giving a 12 year old German Shepherd CS? > He has the problem in the hind quarters. He's otherwise in good shape. > We've tried to get him to take flaxseed oil mixed in his 'wet food' but he > most of the time vomits it up. > We pulverize MSM and Gluclosomine (sp?) into his 'wet food' at alternating > times. He takes that OK. > If you have the time, we would like your opinion and/or experience in this > area. > Thanks, > Thom Thom, Thank you for allowing me to share your question and my answer with the entire Silver List. As you will discover the more you read the CS posts, there are many knowledgeable people on this list. And I think that many people will be interested in exploring the issues that you raise. In answer to your general question about feeding animals CS: Many people, including myself, simply fill the animal's bowl with 5 to 12 PPM (part per million) Colloidal Silver. The animals drink it *instead* of water. This is a preventive measure. It's even more important, if the animal is sick, to replace all water with CS--that is, unless the animal has too many detox reactions too quickly. In a human, a detox response can include fatigue, headache, nausea and even vomiting, and discharges through the skin. The animal experts on this list will know more than I what constitutes a detox reaction in a dog. The age of the animal shouldn't make a difference in whether you feed it Cs--though again, it's best to monitor the animal and see how it behaves. You ask about a Beta. I'm not familiar with this term, so can't make any suggestions. As for fish--I have no idea! I tend to think not, but perhaps someone else has had experience with this. Why are you giving your 12-year-old German Shepherd flax oil? You say that he vomits it. Perhaps he isn't digesting fats very well and is lacking the enzyme lipase. If it were my dog, I'd be feeding him Wobenzymes, an enzyme supplement that comes from Europe and that in Germany, outsells all the allopathic anti-inflammatory medications combined because it works so well, naturally. You also say that your Shepherd eats wet food. Is this homemade, or from a commercial dog company? Most commercial dog and cat foods contain the flesh, fur and feathers of euthanized animals, as well as indigestible high-cellulose fiber hulls from grain hulled in grain mills. There are a number of BARFers on this list (including myself) -- people who BARF their dogs. In this case, BARF doesn't mean vomit, but rather Bones And Raw Food or Bio-Active Raw Food. I feed my 11-year-old and 8-year-old dogs raw foods, as close to what their ancestors eat in the wild, and my animal friends have never been healthier. You might want to research the work of Ian Billinghurst on the internet. Good luck with your pets, and don't be shy about asking questions on the list. There are many people in all stages of learning here, and we're all glad to help each other. Regards, Nina Silver -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour