Re: CS>effective ppm's +GATORADE + ASPARTAME
Gertrude wrote: > As you can see,Gatorade also in Europe and > Mexico... > http://www.gatorade.nl/http://www.gatorade.com/home/index.phphttp://www.gatorade.com.mx/http://www.gatorade.be/ > Trudy.maybe > we can write the factory to remove the > aspartamehttp://www.aspartame.info/index.htmlStevia is a better > choise? > > > Stevia is a much better choice, but it is against the law to sweeten > foods with stevia. > > Marshall > > > Trudy > > - Original Message - > From: Richard > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: CS>effective ppm's > Any alternative to Gatorade as it does not exist in Europe > ? What is in it that spikes the cs to perform better > ?thanksOn 24/03/2006, at 17:18, Robert Berger wrote: > > > The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3 > > gatorade. This is a recomemdation from the Eric Harborn > > reseach foundation in Texas as it takes silver to places > > where it normally doesn't go. Many have found it very > > effective. > > "Ole Bob" > > gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: > > > > Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 > > ppm is more effective than 10-20ppm taken > > throughout the day for a chronic condition with > > no chance of agyria. But, scientists have also > > said that a concentrated dose is more apt to get > > into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low > > dose. Which is it? > >
RE: CS>effective ppm's +GATORADE + ASPARTAME
I just read lable on Gatorade I see no mention of Aspartane Just sucrose syrup bOB Gertrude wrote: As you can see,Gatorade also in Europe and Mexico... http://www.gatorade.nl/ <http://www.gatorade.nl/> http://www.gatorade.com/home/index.php <http://www.gatorade.com/home/index.php> http://www.gatorade.com.mx/ <http://www.gatorade.com.mx/> http://www.gatorade.be/ <http://www.gatorade.be/> Trudy.maybe we can write the factory to remove the aspartamehttp://www.aspartame.info/index.html <http://www.aspartame.info/index.html> Stevia is a better choise? Stevia is a much better choice, but it is against the law to sweeten foods with stevia. Marshall Trudy - Original Message - From: Richard <mailto:richardatkin...@terra.es> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: CS>effective ppm's Any alternative to Gatorade as it does not exist in Europe ? What is in it that spikes the cs to perform better ?thanksOn 24/03/2006, at 17:18, Robert Berger wrote: The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3 gatorade. This is a recomemdation from the Eric Harborn reseach foundation in Texas as it takes silver to places where it normally doesn't go. Many have found it very effective. "Ole Bob" gmetrop...@aol.com <mailto:gmetrop...@aol.com> wrote: Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is more effective than 10-20ppm taken throughout the day for a chronic condition with no chance of agyria. But, scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more apt to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low dose. Which is it?
Re: CS>effective ppm's
It is believed to be the electrolyte, but the glucose and cirtic acid could be a factor as well. Marshall Richard wrote: > Any alternative to Gatorade as it does not exist in Europe ? What is > in it that spikes the cs to perform better ?thanksOn 24/03/2006, at > 17:18, Robert Berger wrote: > >> The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3 >> gatorade. This is a recomemdation from the Eric Harborn reseach >> foundation in Texas as it takes silver to places where it normally >> doesn't go. Many have found it very effective. >> "Ole Bob" >> gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: >> >> Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is >> more effective than 10-20ppm taken throughout the day for >> a chronic condition with no chance of agyria. But, >> scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more >> apt to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low >> dose. Which is it? >>
Re: CS>effective ppm's
Ode says, "The saving grace is that most people don't guzzle large quantities of CS at any concentration [known or not] for long periods of time." Thank God for small favors. Best Regards, Arnold Beland - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 3:34 AM Subject: Re: CS>effective ppm's At 09:26 AM 3/24/2006 -0500, you wrote: Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is more effective than 10-20ppm taken throughout the day for a chronic condition with no chance of agyria. But, scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more apt to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low dose. Which is it? The statement above makes no sense, so it's neither. "Low dose" and "concentrated dose" say absolutely nothing about how much silver is being consumed over what period into what volume, for what purpose or by what method. PPM alone means nothing when making statements about dose and dose schedules and I've yet to see any advise "out there" that does make sense. To clarify things just a little; It it is being said that 5 PPM CS is somehow different than 20 PPM CS that has been diluted by a factor of 4??? Or, Using 4 times less 20 PM CS over the same period as using 5 PPM CS does something different? It's the same amount of silver. The actual "question" is, is the SILVER different, or is less silver per volume just as good or better? So lets just say that a person with a *normal* metabolism 'could' consume enough water at 20PPM silver content to where one could develop agyria over a long period of time without having the water kill them right off...limiting that period of time where one could drink that much water to a very short span. Now, drinking 4 times that amount of water is safer? Or drinking the same amount of water with less silver in it is any different to a person who dies of water toxicity the first day. ..or that a person would even try to push the limits of common sense caution for ANY length of time without darned good reason where the remote possibility of turning colors would be a concern. It takes a minimum retention of silver to develop agyria. The smallest amount I've seen is 3 grams of silver. Other studies cite 6 to 9 grams minimum. At a *normal* worst case elimination rate of 94% in 48 hours [or faster], how much water must one consume at 20 PPM, for how long, in order to build up the critical amount of silver? My guess is a quart a day...every single day... for over 8 years. That's not a cautious or reasonable regimen. So, it stands to reason Anyone who has turned colors have both an abnormal metabolism AND [for whatever reason] didn't know what they were doing. [and did that for too long] ..which isn't all that hard to believe when people say "take 20 PPM" or whatever, but don't specify how much at 20 PPM or for how long and even more commonly have no idea what their concentration is and dose according to paranoia rather than common sense and continual observation. CS making instructions are generally very much like the dosing instructions...totally nonsensical. When CS instructions that come with a battery pack generator with no controls say 1 PPM per minute, the actual PPM result is absolutely an unknown. Several critical determining factors aren't mentioned at all and the probable range of error is enormous. The instructions are abysmally, possibly even dangerously, incomplete!! The problem is, it sounds reasonable when it isn't, people think they have a clue as to what they're doing, but in reality, have absolutely none. The saving grace is that most people don't guzzle large quantities of CS at any concentration [known or not] for long periods of time. Ode No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1 - Release Date: 3/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1 - Release Date: 3/24/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1/292 - Release Date: 3/24/2006
Re: CS>effective ppm's
At 09:26 AM 3/24/2006 -0500, you wrote: Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is more effective than 10-20ppm taken throughout the day for a chronic condition with no chance of agyria. But, scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more apt to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low dose. Which is it? The statement above makes no sense, so it's neither. "Low dose" and "concentrated dose" say absolutely nothing about how much silver is being consumed over what period into what volume, for what purpose or by what method. PPM alone means nothing when making statements about dose and dose schedules and I've yet to see any advise "out there" that does make sense. To clarify things just a little; It it is being said that 5 PPM CS is somehow different than 20 PPM CS that has been diluted by a factor of 4??? Or, Using 4 times less 20 PM CS over the same period as using 5 PPM CS does something different? It's the same amount of silver. The actual "question" is, is the SILVER different, or is less silver per volume just as good or better? So lets just say that a person with a *normal* metabolism 'could' consume enough water at 20PPM silver content to where one could develop agyria over a long period of time without having the water kill them right off...limiting that period of time where one could drink that much water to a very short span. Now, drinking 4 times that amount of water is safer? Or drinking the same amount of water with less silver in it is any different to a person who dies of water toxicity the first day. ..or that a person would even try to push the limits of common sense caution for ANY length of time without darned good reason where the remote possibility of turning colors would be a concern. It takes a minimum retention of silver to develop agyria. The smallest amount I've seen is 3 grams of silver. Other studies cite 6 to 9 grams minimum. At a *normal* worst case elimination rate of 94% in 48 hours [or faster], how much water must one consume at 20 PPM, for how long, in order to build up the critical amount of silver? My guess is a quart a day...every single day... for over 8 years. That's not a cautious or reasonable regimen. So, it stands to reason Anyone who has turned colors have both an abnormal metabolism AND [for whatever reason] didn't know what they were doing. [and did that for too long] ..which isn't all that hard to believe when people say "take 20 PPM" or whatever, but don't specify how much at 20 PPM or for how long and even more commonly have no idea what their concentration is and dose according to paranoia rather than common sense and continual observation. CS making instructions are generally very much like the dosing instructions...totally nonsensical. When CS instructions that come with a battery pack generator with no controls say 1 PPM per minute, the actual PPM result is absolutely an unknown. Several critical determining factors aren't mentioned at all and the probable range of error is enormous. The instructions are abysmally, possibly even dangerously, incomplete!! The problem is, it sounds reasonable when it isn't, people think they have a clue as to what they're doing, but in reality, have absolutely none. The saving grace is that most people don't guzzle large quantities of CS at any concentration [known or not] for long periods of time. Ode No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1 - Release Date: 3/24/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.1 - Release Date: 3/24/2006 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>effective ppm's +GATORADE + ASPARTAME
As you can see,Gatorade also in Europe and Mexico... http://www.gatorade.nl/ http://www.gatorade.com/home/index.php http://www.gatorade.com.mx/ http://www.gatorade.be/ Trudy.maybe we can write the factory to remove the aspartame http://www.aspartame.info/index.html Stevia is a better choise? Trudy - Original Message - From: Richard To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 7:47 PM Subject: Re: CS>effective ppm's Any alternative to Gatorade as it does not exist in Europe ? What is in it that spikes the cs to perform better ?thanks On 24/03/2006, at 17:18, Robert Berger wrote: The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3 gatorade. This is a recomemdation from the Eric Harborn reseach foundation in Texas as it takes silver to places where it normally doesn't go. Many have found it very effective. "Ole Bob" gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is more effective than 10-20ppm taken throughout the day for a chronic condition with no chance of agyria. But, scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more apt to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low dose. Which is it?
Re: CS>effective ppm's
In a message dated 3/24/06 3:14:09 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, ami...@starband.net writes: There is a clear Gatorade available, and yes Lactated Ringers is very similar, but more expensive. The L. Ringers has sugar too, I think, but you should get confirmation of that. Jim -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 11:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>effective ppm's > Is there any healthier mix for EIS than Gatorade which has dyes and > sugars? Understandable question. Wasn't Ringer's lactate a suggested alternative? Anybody remember? Mike D. Mike, et al, Curious why fruit juices wouldn't be a good mix as they are nutritional and contain Vit-C?
Re: CS>effective ppm's
Any alternative to Gatorade as it does not exist in Europe ? What is in it that spikes the cs to perform better ?thanks On 24/03/2006, at 17:18, Robert Berger wrote: The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3 gatorade. This is a recomemdation from the Eric Harborn reseach foundation in Texas as it takes silver to places where it normally doesn't go. Many have found it very effective. "Ole Bob" gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is more effective than 10-20ppm taken throughout the day for a chronic condition with no chance of agyria. But, scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more apt to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low dose. Which is it?
RE: CS>effective ppm's
There is a clear Gatorade available, and yes Lactated Ringers is very similar, but more expensive. The L. Ringers has sugar too, I think, but you should get confirmation of that. Jim -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 11:16 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>effective ppm's > Is there any healthier mix for EIS than Gatorade which has dyes and > sugars? Understandable question. Wasn't Ringer's lactate a suggested alternative? Anybody remember? Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>effective ppm's
Mix a little DMSO in it. Alternatively, add a bit of peroxide. Don't use both together though. sol gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: Is there any healthier mix for EIS than Gatorade which has dyes and sugars? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>effective ppm's
I use grape/cranberry mix with my EIS and MSM.
Re: CS>effective ppm's
Is there any healthier mix for EIS than Gatorade which has dyes and sugars?
Re: CS>effective ppm's
The most effective use of EIS is to mix 1/3 EIS with 2/3 gatorade. This is a recomemdation from the Eric Harborn reseach foundation in Texas as it takes silver to places where it normally doesn't go. Many have found it very effective. "Ole Bob" gmetrop...@aol.com wrote: Some on the list have stated that low ppm's at 5 ppm is more effective than 10-20ppm taken throughout the day for a chronic condition with no chance of agyria. But, scientists have also said that a concentrated dose is more apt to get into deeper muscle tissue and lymph than low dose. Which is it?