RE: Where's the Silver? was Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Amen and amen! Love Dean -Original Message- From: Nancy B. [mailto:silverwo...@bigfoot.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 9:55 AM To: Silver-List Subject:Where's the Silver? was Re: Using Solar to Make CS Dear Silver List, I know for sure now that my first post about solar CS didn't make it. I must have not used my member address that time. The response to my repost has been overwhelming! I appreciate all objective information that has been posted. I will be turning edited versions of that over to my husband to review. I don't have a good handle on electronics myself, but he does. I got some good references off the list from a list member too; thanks, Bill. It would have been helpful if the subject on the list had been changed once the useful content had been exhausted. (Suggestions: "Bickering Brothers" or "Flaming Darts" or "Low PPM Silver Dung"). These Re: misnamed posts were a waste of my time. Self control on the internet regardless of your situation is far easier than when you are talking in person. There is no excuse for dumping trash on the list with so many opportunities to stop before pushing the send button. Second opinions and criticism regarding scientific views should be welcomed when presented objectively and constructively. But why pour salt on wounds or bring up negative emotion and unrelated or irrelevant side issues? Any emotional content should be that of emotional support, not destruction. A hostile atmosphere makes it awkward for someone like me to do anything other than ask a question, and then I have my doubts whether it's worth asking. (What if my question is deemed "stupid" by someone, or I misspell something???) Based on private emails I get, I wonder how much other good info is getting sent privately to avoid public rebuke? We must remember that both new & old list members are here for facts, not flareups. The bickering brothers ought to take their squabbling off the list and just stick to the facts and hypotheses here. You are at risk for loosing posting privileges. Doesn't that mean anything to you? Even if offenders remain on the list, their posts with insight may go unread due to past reputation. They can obscure legit posts like the 2 most recent I almost skipped. I thought the dung debate was continuing when in fact these posts simply clarified the yet unanswered questions that started the tiff. While I'm at it, another general suggestion: can we cut the petty criticism of typos and mis-spellings? I've seen this here and elsewhere too many times. This isn't a spelling bee. It always comes across as a cheap shot at somebody, often intending to hurt, not help. Otherwise it would have been brought up privately, not where everyone else could view it. MANY very intelligent people never could type well or spell, and some people have lost their ability to type or spell due to illness. Then there are some very intelligent people who can't communicate at all, like how Helen Keller was for years. We all have "fallen brains" (as my husband puts it). Just that some limitations are easier to hide than others. How blessed we are to have the internet to communicate, regardless of our IQ or abilities. Thank God for this list in particular. If I had to count on hand written messages to send and receive all this information, I'd still be on antibiotics, probably ruining my liver and my kidneys and more, and typing and spelling poorly due to neurological Lyme damage that CS has reversed for the most part. The good news is that poor spellers and typists on our list can improve their "appearance" for the sake of those who struggle to overlook it. A spell-checker (built into some mail programs like MS Outlook) can quickly make posts more readable. I set up my program to check every outbound email for spelling now. I'm surprised what it picks up. (It tries to clean up the letter I'm responding to as well; that's when I stop & send!) Personally, I have a lot more fun deciphering poorly spelled and typed posts that are rich in CS content than I have looking at a pile of dung very low in silver content -- too low to measure. Proverb for the day adapted for the silver list: How pleasant it is when brethren* of the silver list dwell together in harmony! *to be "PC" add, "and sistren"! Sincerely, Nancy B. http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/silver-works -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussio
Where's the Silver? was Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Dear Silver List, I know for sure now that my first post about solar CS didn't make it. I must have not used my member address that time. The response to my repost has been overwhelming! I appreciate all objective information that has been posted. I will be turning edited versions of that over to my husband to review. I don't have a good handle on electronics myself, but he does. I got some good references off the list from a list member too; thanks, Bill. It would have been helpful if the subject on the list had been changed once the useful content had been exhausted. (Suggestions: "Bickering Brothers" or "Flaming Darts" or "Low PPM Silver Dung"). These Re: misnamed posts were a waste of my time. Self control on the internet regardless of your situation is far easier than when you are talking in person. There is no excuse for dumping trash on the list with so many opportunities to stop before pushing the send button. Second opinions and criticism regarding scientific views should be welcomed when presented objectively and constructively. But why pour salt on wounds or bring up negative emotion and unrelated or irrelevant side issues? Any emotional content should be that of emotional support, not destruction. A hostile atmosphere makes it awkward for someone like me to do anything other than ask a question, and then I have my doubts whether it's worth asking. (What if my question is deemed "stupid" by someone, or I misspell something???) Based on private emails I get, I wonder how much other good info is getting sent privately to avoid public rebuke? We must remember that both new & old list members are here for facts, not flareups. The bickering brothers ought to take their squabbling off the list and just stick to the facts and hypotheses here. You are at risk for loosing posting privileges. Doesn't that mean anything to you? Even if offenders remain on the list, their posts with insight may go unread due to past reputation. They can obscure legit posts like the 2 most recent I almost skipped. I thought the dung debate was continuing when in fact these posts simply clarified the yet unanswered questions that started the tiff. While I'm at it, another general suggestion: can we cut the petty criticism of typos and mis-spellings? I've seen this here and elsewhere too many times. This isn't a spelling bee. It always comes across as a cheap shot at somebody, often intending to hurt, not help. Otherwise it would have been brought up privately, not where everyone else could view it. MANY very intelligent people never could type well or spell, and some people have lost their ability to type or spell due to illness. Then there are some very intelligent people who can't communicate at all, like how Helen Keller was for years. We all have "fallen brains" (as my husband puts it). Just that some limitations are easier to hide than others. How blessed we are to have the internet to communicate, regardless of our IQ or abilities. Thank God for this list in particular. If I had to count on hand written messages to send and receive all this information, I'd still be on antibiotics, probably ruining my liver and my kidneys and more, and typing and spelling poorly due to neurological Lyme damage that CS has reversed for the most part. The good news is that poor spellers and typists on our list can improve their "appearance" for the sake of those who struggle to overlook it. A spell-checker (built into some mail programs like MS Outlook) can quickly make posts more readable. I set up my program to check every outbound email for spelling now. I'm surprised what it picks up. (It tries to clean up the letter I'm responding to as well; that's when I stop & send!) Personally, I have a lot more fun deciphering poorly spelled and typed posts that are rich in CS content than I have looking at a pile of dung very low in silver content -- too low to measure. Proverb for the day adapted for the silver list: How pleasant it is when brethren* of the silver list dwell together in harmony! *to be "PC" add, "and sistren"! Sincerely, Nancy B. http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/silver-works -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
I am coming to OZ in a few monthsI would like to meet you Cisco Hey Cisco, I live in Port Macquarie, New South Wales, has a reasonable port, are you coming in your boat/yacht?? Hope I can meet you in person John In Australia -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
>Darryl. >I am coming to OZ in a few monthsI would like to meet you >Cisco You are more than welcome in biker mode if you prefer... in a quest for knowledge... or as a seeker of truth... up to you old son ? Darryyll -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
> [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge > your > > batteries in your boat that goes to all the " outer islands ", with > making > > C/S, which is a far easier task. > > > > I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am > considered > > to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to > > consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is > > real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of > > having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this > stuff > > is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am > > hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective > view, > > so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! > > Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some > > things remain certain, there is no such thing as distilled water being " > > dead ", and putting C/S into the soil is the surest way possible of > killing > > the beneficial microbes needed to convert nutrients to plant available > > nutrients, and if all this is too much to believe, you definitely do not > > need a $450 US dollar solar panel to generate 10 milli amps to make the > > best possible C/S. > > I know there are more than a few equally competent electronic people here > > reading this stuff who can totally corroborate my latest input I > hope > > they speak up this time. > > > > Darryyll > > > > YO!, > > > > This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even > > go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc > > battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to > > maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you > > need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar > > panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in > > diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it > > will take to make silver. > > > > Cisco > > > > It's not me wrote: > > > > > > Nancy, > > > Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 > > V, > > > 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your > machine > > or > > > not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it > > > works. > > http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Nancy B. > > > To: Silver-List > > > Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM > > > Subject: Using Solar to Make CS > > > > > > >Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > > > > > > > >Colloidal silver made with solar energy > > > > > > > >Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would > > be > > > to > > > >convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator > to > > > >solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator > > with > > > >two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc > > > >generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, > with > > an > > > >external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > > > > > > > >I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can > > you > > > >get out of them? > > > > > > > >Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a > black > > > out > > > >(for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, > > > >tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) > > ÜÜÜ > > > > > > > >I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days > at > > a > > > >time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the > only > > > >thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) > > continues > > > >as it has been. > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Nancy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > > > >
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
ing and insult all.sorry Holmes I dont like you and I dont think your worth the salt it took to make youYER WRONG AGAIN.if you want to take this off list fine...I am ready for your limited concepts, facious nature and useless comments.lets go HOMIElets get off list where yer name aint seen and dont mean anything.stop wasting these good peoples time and space! Stop hurting the people who dont comment because people like you will trounce on them.there are good people here who want to learn, who need to donate and ask questions.you get in the way and make them feel like they shoudlnt.go for it,bring it on! I will not comment on the above Cisco Darryl wrote: > > Well Cisco I know you don't want to reply to my emails anymore, or simply > will not ...but you must understand when you give out such authoritative > advise over such a wide range of things, if no one else is prepared to > tackle you when you are wrong again, there is always me. > Here we find that you are advising people to spend US $450.00 plus to do a > job that only $20.00 or $30.00 can easily do, in this case I am talking > about Australian Dollars nearly half what you would spend with US dollars > in your remote site at Guam! > Sorry folks about the exclamation mark, but I have been to Guam on many > occasions and it is not any more remote than downtown LA, and very little, > if at all more expensive. > Cisco you have to understand that making C/S is possible with a few 9 volt > batteries in series, or for those with only a modicum of electronic > expertise, a simple voltage multiplier will > " pump" 9 volts to 30 volts from a single 9 volt battery either way a > dollar investment in the less than $ 30.00 dollars Australian or even less > than $20.00 US . for a suitable solar panel to do the same thing $20.00 > Australian dollars will easily do it. > > You see current required is only about 10 milli amps in a well designed > circuit to generate the best quality C/S this can be done with the > cheapest of Solar Panels ...even putting out as low as 4.5 volts, and a > suitable " voltage pump " will still be in the less than $20.00 > [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your > batteries in your boat that goes to all the " outer islands ", with making > C/S, which is a far easier task. > > I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered > to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to > consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is > real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of > having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff > is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am > hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, > so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! > Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some > things remain certain, there is no such thing as distilled water being " > dead ", and putting C/S into the soil is the surest way possible of killing > the beneficial microbes needed to convert nutrients to plant available > nutrients, and if all this is too much to believe, you definitely do not > need a $450 US dollar solar panel to generate 10 milli amps to make the > best possible C/S. > I know there are more than a few equally competent electronic people here > reading this stuff who can totally corroborate my latest input I hope > they speak up this time. > > Darryyll > > YO!, > > This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even > go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc > battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to > maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you > need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar > panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in > diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it > will take to make silver. > > Cisco > > It's not me wrote: > > > > Nancy, > > Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 > V, > > 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine > or > > not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it > > works. > http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nancy B. > > To: Silver-List > > Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM &
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, > so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! > Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some > things remain certain, there is no such thing as distilled water being " > dead ", and putting C/S into the soil is the surest way possible of killing > the beneficial microbes needed to convert nutrients to plant available > nutrients, and if all this is too much to believe, you definitely do not > need a $450 US dollar solar panel to generate 10 milli amps to make the > best possible C/S. > I know there are more than a few equally competent electronic people here > reading this stuff who can totally corroborate my latest input I hope > they speak up this time. > > Darryyll > > YO!, > > This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even > go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc > battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to > maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you > need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar > panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in > diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it > will take to make silver. > > Cisco > > It's not me wrote: > > > > Nancy, > > Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 > V, > > 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine > or > > not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it > > works. > http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nancy B. > > To: Silver-List > > Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM > > Subject: Using Solar to Make CS > > > > >Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > > > > > >Colloidal silver made with solar energy > > > > > >Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would > be > > to > > >convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to > > >solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator > with > > >two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc > > >generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with > an > > >external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > > > > > >I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can > you > > >get out of them? > > > > > >Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black > > out > > >(for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, > > >tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) > ÜÜÜ > > > > > >I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at > a > > >time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only > > >thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) > continues > > >as it has been. > > > > > >Sincerely, > > >Nancy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, addres
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
...no $20 unit is gonna produce the power you > need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar > panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in > diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it > will take to make silver. > > Cisco > > It's not me wrote: > > > > Nancy, > > Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 > V, > > 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine > or > > not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it > > works. > http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nancy B. > > To: Silver-List > > Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM > > Subject: Using Solar to Make CS > > > > >Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > > > > > >Colloidal silver made with solar energy > > > > > >Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would > be > > to > > >convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to > > >solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator > with > > >two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc > > >generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with > an > > >external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > > > > > >I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can > you > > >get out of them? > > > > > >Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black > > out > > >(for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, > > >tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) > ÜÜÜ > > > > > >I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at > a > > >time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only > > >thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) > continues > > >as it has been. > > > > > >Sincerely, > > >Nancy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
still be in the less than $20.00 > [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your > batteries in your boat that goes to all the " outer islands ", with making > C/S, which is a far easier task. > > I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered > to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to > consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is > real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of > having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff > is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am > hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, > so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! > Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some > things remain certain, there is no such thing as distilled water being " > dead ", and putting C/S into the soil is the surest way possible of killing > the beneficial microbes needed to convert nutrients to plant available > nutrients, and if all this is too much to believe, you definitely do not > need a $450 US dollar solar panel to generate 10 milli amps to make the > best possible C/S. > I know there are more than a few equally competent electronic people here > reading this stuff who can totally corroborate my latest input I hope > they speak up this time. > > Darryyll > > YO!, > > This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even > go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc > battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to > maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you > need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar > panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in > diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it > will take to make silver. > > Cisco > > It's not me wrote: > > > > Nancy, > > Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 > V, > > 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine > or > > not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it > > works. > http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Nancy B. > > To: Silver-List > > Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM > > Subject: Using Solar to Make CS > > > > >Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > > > > > >Colloidal silver made with solar energy > > > > > >Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would > be > > to > > >convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to > > >solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator > with > > >two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc > > >generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with > an > > >external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > > > > > >I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can > you > > >get out of them? > > > > > >Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black > > out > > >(for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, > > >tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) > ÜÜÜ > > > > > >I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at > a > > >time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only > > >thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) > continues > > >as it has been. > > > > > >Sincerely, > > >Nancy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal sil
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Well Cisco I know you don't want to reply to my emails anymore, or simply will not ...but you must understand when you give out such authoritative advise over such a wide range of things, if no one else is prepared to tackle you when you are wrong again, there is always me. Here we find that you are advising people to spend US $450.00 plus to do a job that only $20.00 or $30.00 can easily do, in this case I am talking about Australian Dollars nearly half what you would spend with US dollars in your remote site at Guam! Sorry folks about the exclamation mark, but I have been to Guam on many occasions and it is not any more remote than downtown LA, and very little, if at all more expensive. Cisco you have to understand that making C/S is possible with a few 9 volt batteries in series, or for those with only a modicum of electronic expertise, a simple voltage multiplier will " pump" 9 volts to 30 volts from a single 9 volt battery either way a dollar investment in the less than $ 30.00 dollars Australian or even less than $20.00 US . for a suitable solar panel to do the same thing $20.00 Australian dollars will easily do it. You see current required is only about 10 milli amps in a well designed circuit to generate the best quality C/S this can be done with the cheapest of Solar Panels ...even putting out as low as 4.5 volts, and a suitable " voltage pump " will still be in the less than $20.00 [ Australian ]I think you have confused what you need to charge your batteries in your boat that goes to all the " outer islands ", with making C/S, which is a far easier task. I have done my best to say this as politely as possible, if I am considered to be still uncivil by the above then I would ask those reading this to consider that I too came to this list learn and contribute, when stuff is real wrong and newcomers have come to learn then what is the value of having some one who can contribute sitting back and saying well this stuff is very wrong, and it is going to mislead a lot of people, but I am hamstrung by the need to apologise for a contrary or even corrective view, so much that it is better to tolerate totally wrong stuff than speak up! Guess I have to take my chance again or just simply leave here, but some things remain certain, there is no such thing as distilled water being " dead ", and putting C/S into the soil is the surest way possible of killing the beneficial microbes needed to convert nutrients to plant available nutrients, and if all this is too much to believe, you definitely do not need a $450 US dollar solar panel to generate 10 milli amps to make the best possible C/S. I know there are more than a few equally competent electronic people here reading this stuff who can totally corroborate my latest input I hope they speak up this time. Darryyll YO!, This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it will take to make silver. Cisco It's not me wrote: > > Nancy, > Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 V, > 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine or > not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it > works. http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html > > -Original Message- > From: Nancy B. > To: Silver-List > Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM > Subject: Using Solar to Make CS > > >Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > > > >Colloidal silver made with solar energy > > > >Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be > to > >convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to > >solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with > >two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc > >generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an > >external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > > > >I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you > >get out of them? > > > >Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black > out > >(for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, > >tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ > > > >I reall
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
-Original Message- From: Nancy B. To: Silver-List Date: Monday, 25 May 1998 8:29 Subject: Using Solar to Make CS. Nancy, you might not need your ac/dc converter,since solar panels provide a d.c voltage during sunlight exposure.However perhaps an easy way is to buy 2 x 12v batteries & 2 x 6v batteries.These can be charged by the solar panel during the day,for use as your cs power supply when you need it. All the batteries may be charged together if the 6v batteries are connected together in series(making 12v),and then all three 12v units connected to the solar panel via a current regulator.It would be best to obtain the largest solar panel you can afford as this will affect the charging time.If you contact a solar panel distributor in your area,they should be able to show you what I've mentioned here.I don't know what size panels radio shack sells but I expect they may be only tiny.A larger panel probably in the order of 4Watts or greater at 12v,and a regulator would work o.k,I expect.Oh,in using the batteries as described above,you only need to connect 1 x 6v to 2 x 12vbatteries in series ,making 30v.The other battery is only used for charging(and kept as spare) Hope this makes sense. pete >Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > >Colloidal silver made with solar energy > >Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be to >convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to >solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with >two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc >generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an >external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > >I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you >get out of them? > >Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black out >(for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, >tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ > >I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at a >time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only >thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) continues >as it has been. > >Sincerely, >Nancy > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
YO!, This unit would run one of those toy fans ya put in yer hatdont even go therethat is a hour rating.it wont even charge a 9vdc battery.the unit I have described we use for full solar power to maintain our life styleno $20 unit is gonna produce the power you need.look further into itit is not so simple. I use 3 Solar panels to charge ONE bank of batteries.they are 2 X 4 feet in diamention.this wont do the trickgood thought but not the one it will take to make silver. Cisco It's not me wrote: > > Nancy, > Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 V, > 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine or > not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it > works. http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html > > -Original Message- > From: Nancy B. > To: Silver-List > Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM > Subject: Using Solar to Make CS > > >Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > > > >Colloidal silver made with solar energy > > > >Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be > to > >convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to > >solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with > >two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc > >generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an > >external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > > > >I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you > >get out of them? > > > >Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black > out > >(for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, > >tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ > > > >I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at a > >time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only > >thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) continues > >as it has been. > > > >Sincerely, > >Nancy > > > > > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Nancy, Here's a company that sells a fairly cheap solar panel that puts out 12 V, 166 ma. I don't know if 3 would put out enough juice to run your machine or not, but they are about $20.00 each. Let us know if you try it and it works. http://www.sciplus.com/cgi-bin/basket/892105184.47/wired/26325.html -Original Message- From: Nancy B. To: Silver-List Date: Sunday, May 24, 1998 4:32 PM Subject: Using Solar to Make CS >Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > >Colloidal silver made with solar energy > >Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be to >convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to >solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with >two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc >generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an >external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > >I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you >get out of them? > >Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black out >(for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, >tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ > >I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at a >time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only >thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) continues >as it has been. > >Sincerely, >Nancy > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: Using Solar to Make CS
Nancy, We have located a solar panel which outputs 350 MA @ 32vdc...it serves one of our people quite wellbut it is massively expensivewe to me anywaysome people spend more on a bloody blenderthey run around $450.00 US and are easily utilized when the sun shines..if ou do a net search for "SOLAR POWER" you will find a multitude of US companies who build these type of units. We have found that 8 months out of the year we get better results from a Wind Generator and a battery. But when the Trade Winds leave it is a different ball game. Hope this helps Cisco Nancy B. wrote: > > Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. > > Colloidal silver made with solar energy > > Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be to > convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to > solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with > two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc > generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an > external light bulb I ignore most of the time. > > I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you > get out of them? > > Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black out > (for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, > tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ > > I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at a > time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only > thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) continues > as it has been. > > Sincerely, > Nancy > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Using Solar to Make CS
Repost: did this go through the first time? I haven't seen it. Colloidal silver made with solar energy Has this topic come up before? I'd like to know how feasible it would be to convert a 27 volt battery powered or 24 ac to dc powered CS generator to solar (perhaps interchangeable). I use the simple homemade generator with two silver wires attached to the electric source (a 24 volt ac to dc generator concealed in a plastic box) by alligator clips and wire, with an external light bulb I ignore most of the time. I know Radio Shack sells little solar gizmos but how much voltage can you get out of them? Is it feasible to make colloidal silver this way in the event of a black out (for whatever reason: you ran out of batteries, ran into hurricanes, tornadoes, Y2Ks, you didn't pay your electric bill, you ran away,...) ÜÜÜ I really don't want to be without this stuff for more than a few days at a time. I like it so much better than antibiotics, and it may be the only thing that works if the antibiotic crisis (bacterial resistance) continues as it has been. Sincerely, Nancy -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
