Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Sebastian Arcus

On 22/02/2022 15:17, Heinz Wiesinger wrote:

On Tuesday, 22 February 2022 14:27:57 CET Sebastian Arcus wrote:

I haven't been able to get Ekiga to work any more since end of March
2021 after updating this machine to latest -current (at the time). I
eventually managed to get it compiled and installed, but then when
trying to connect to any sip account it crashes.

When trying to recompile it now I noticed that ponce's SBo git repo now
doesn't have Ekiga or Opal any more. Do I take it that Ekiga is now
being phased out from SBo? I guess it makes sense as the upstream code
hasn't been updated for a few years.

I would be ok with switching to another SIP client - but haven't found
any so far which actually work properly. Linphone installs fine, but
when I try to add a SIP account, it just doesn't do it. No error, nothing.

Any suggestions for a SIP client, or how to get Ekiga to work again
please? I would prefer a client which supports multiple accounts - but
frankly at this stage I would try anything. Thank you.


There is twinkle:

https://github.com/LubosD/twinkle

No SlackBuild for that in the repo, but it seems reasonably active/uptodate.


Thank you for that. I didn't realise there is a new/current version of 
Twinkle. I can confirm I managed to compile and install it, and so far 
it appears to work well. I've added on a ToDo list to try and get a 
script done for SBo and upload it. It would most likely be useful to 
others as well.

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Sebastian Arcus



On 22/02/2022 17:46, Dave Woodfall wrote:

There is also a plugin for Pidgin called SIPE (an extended version of
SIP), but I have never tested it, and don't know how compatible it is
with normal SIP:
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/network/pidgin-sipe/


I've just had a look at this and pushed an update to get it to build
on 15.0.

SIP shows in pidgin's "add account" menu as SIMPLE, and I
successfully managed to make an account and register it to my
asterisk PBX.

I added a buddy, which was my home phone, but it shows offline, so
"enable offline buddies" then configure the buddy to always show is
needed.

That's as far as I tested it, but I noticed some menu entries to
configure audio/video, so I imagine it ought to work.


Thank you Dave - for Pidgin-sipe and the linphonec suggestion. At least 
least there are a few options available.

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Dave Woodfall
> There is also a plugin for Pidgin called SIPE (an extended version of
> SIP), but I have never tested it, and don't know how compatible it is
> with normal SIP:
> http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/network/pidgin-sipe/

I've just had a look at this and pushed an update to get it to build
on 15.0.

SIP shows in pidgin's "add account" menu as SIMPLE, and I
successfully managed to make an account and register it to my
asterisk PBX.

I added a buddy, which was my home phone, but it shows offline, so
"enable offline buddies" then configure the buddy to always show is
needed.

That's as far as I tested it, but I noticed some menu entries to
configure audio/video, so I imagine it ought to work.

--
Dave
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Franzen via SlackBuilds-users




Any suggestions for a SIP client, or how to get Ekiga to work again
please? I would prefer a client which supports multiple accounts - but
frankly at this stage I would try anything. Thank you.


There is twinkle:

https://github.com/LubosD/twinkle

No SlackBuild for that in the repo, but it seems reasonably 
active/uptodate.




There's also https://jami.net/ , no SlackBuild and i never tested it.
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Dave Woodfall
On 22/02/22 16:10,
Sebastian Arcus  put forth the proposition:
> On 22/02/2022 15:38, Dave Woodfall wrote:
> > On 22/02/22 13:27,
> > Sebastian Arcus  put forth the proposition:
> > > I haven't been able to get Ekiga to work any more since end of March 2021
> > > after updating this machine to latest -current (at the time). I eventually
> > > managed to get it compiled and installed, but then when trying to connect 
> > > to
> > > any sip account it crashes.
> > > When trying to recompile it now I noticed that ponce's SBo git repo now
> > > doesn't have Ekiga or Opal any more. Do I take it that Ekiga is now being
> > > phased out from SBo? I guess it makes sense as the upstream code hasn't 
> > > been
> > > updated for a few years.
> > > I would be ok with switching to another SIP client - but haven't found any
> > > so far which actually work properly. Linphone installs fine, but when I 
> > > try
> > > to add a SIP account, it just doesn't do it. No error, nothing.
> > > Any suggestions for a SIP client, or how to get Ekiga to work again 
> > > please?
> > > I would prefer a client which supports multiple accounts - but frankly at
> > > this stage I would try anything. Thank you.
> Hi David,
> >
> > Hi Sebastian
> >
> > I have been down this road in the past too, and was surprised at the
> > lack of a good software phone that had any kind of contacts list, or
> > didn't they didn't support basic things like contact groups.
> >
> > I found Ekiga to be the most user-friendly phone out there (if you
> > can get past some of the cryptic error messages), which is why I
> > began maintaining it, but now I use a hardware VOIP phone + local
> > asterisk PBX.
> I found Ekiga reasonably good as well - until it stopped working. I actually
> use myself VoIP desk phone (mainly Grandstream and old Cisco stuff) +
> Asterisk PBX's at a number of sites. But I need a VoIP softphone on my
> laptop to troubleshoot and reconfigure remotely Asterisk servers.
> >
> > Unfortunately, the developers stopped working on Ekiga many years
> > ago.  The problem now is that one of the dependencies fails to build
> > in 15.0, which renders it useless.  Linphone is probably the most,
> > maybe only, maintained software phone at the moment, and has been
> > getting better over the years.
> I've just about managed to get Linphone working now. The trouble was that it
> expects a specific syntax when configuring a sip account (username in the
> format , and the proxy address needs to start with
> "sip:" as well) - but there were zero error messages in the GUI if you
> didn't follow that syntax - it just didn't add the account - so I was
> flummoxed for a while.
> Thank you everyone for the suggestions. I plan to have a look at Twinkle and
> see if it will compile and install.

I used to use the CLI part of linphone for testing things: linphonec.
You may find the errors and warnings bit more verbose than the GUI,
but it worked fine.  I can't recall if it takes SIP address as a flag
when starting it though, which would be useful.  IIRC the syntax
it uses is sip:user/extension@.  It keeps history between
sessions, so you only need to up-arrow a few times the next time you
use it.

--
Dave
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Sebastian Arcus



On 22/02/2022 15:38, Dave Woodfall wrote:

On 22/02/22 13:27,
Sebastian Arcus  put forth the proposition:

I haven't been able to get Ekiga to work any more since end of March 2021
after updating this machine to latest -current (at the time). I eventually
managed to get it compiled and installed, but then when trying to connect to
any sip account it crashes.
When trying to recompile it now I noticed that ponce's SBo git repo now
doesn't have Ekiga or Opal any more. Do I take it that Ekiga is now being
phased out from SBo? I guess it makes sense as the upstream code hasn't been
updated for a few years.
I would be ok with switching to another SIP client - but haven't found any
so far which actually work properly. Linphone installs fine, but when I try
to add a SIP account, it just doesn't do it. No error, nothing.
Any suggestions for a SIP client, or how to get Ekiga to work again please?
I would prefer a client which supports multiple accounts - but frankly at
this stage I would try anything. Thank you.


Hi David,



Hi Sebastian

I have been down this road in the past too, and was surprised at the
lack of a good software phone that had any kind of contacts list, or
didn't they didn't support basic things like contact groups.

I found Ekiga to be the most user-friendly phone out there (if you
can get past some of the cryptic error messages), which is why I
began maintaining it, but now I use a hardware VOIP phone + local
asterisk PBX.


I found Ekiga reasonably good as well - until it stopped working. I 
actually use myself VoIP desk phone (mainly Grandstream and old Cisco 
stuff) + Asterisk PBX's at a number of sites. But I need a VoIP 
softphone on my laptop to troubleshoot and reconfigure remotely 
Asterisk servers.




Unfortunately, the developers stopped working on Ekiga many years
ago.  The problem now is that one of the dependencies fails to build
in 15.0, which renders it useless.  Linphone is probably the most,
maybe only, maintained software phone at the moment, and has been
getting better over the years.


I've just about managed to get Linphone working now. The trouble was 
that it expects a specific syntax when configuring a sip account 
(username in the format , and the proxy address 
needs to start with "sip:" as well) - but there were zero error messages 
in the GUI if you didn't follow that syntax - it just didn't add the 
account - so I was flummoxed for a while.


Thank you everyone for the suggestions. I plan to have a look at Twinkle 
and see if it will compile and install.


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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Dave Woodfall
On 22/02/22 13:27,
Sebastian Arcus  put forth the proposition:
> I haven't been able to get Ekiga to work any more since end of March 2021
> after updating this machine to latest -current (at the time). I eventually
> managed to get it compiled and installed, but then when trying to connect to
> any sip account it crashes.
> When trying to recompile it now I noticed that ponce's SBo git repo now
> doesn't have Ekiga or Opal any more. Do I take it that Ekiga is now being
> phased out from SBo? I guess it makes sense as the upstream code hasn't been
> updated for a few years.
> I would be ok with switching to another SIP client - but haven't found any
> so far which actually work properly. Linphone installs fine, but when I try
> to add a SIP account, it just doesn't do it. No error, nothing.
> Any suggestions for a SIP client, or how to get Ekiga to work again please?
> I would prefer a client which supports multiple accounts - but frankly at
> this stage I would try anything. Thank you.

Hi Sebastian

I have been down this road in the past too, and was surprised at the
lack of a good software phone that had any kind of contacts list, or
didn't they didn't support basic things like contact groups.

I found Ekiga to be the most user-friendly phone out there (if you
can get past some of the cryptic error messages), which is why I
began maintaining it, but now I use a hardware VOIP phone + local
asterisk PBX.

Unfortunately, the developers stopped working on Ekiga many years
ago.  The problem now is that one of the dependencies fails to build
in 15.0, which renders it useless.  Linphone is probably the most,
maybe only, maintained software phone at the moment, and has been
getting better over the years.

There is also a plugin for Pidgin called SIPE (an extended version of
SIP), but I have never tested it, and don't know how compatible it is
with normal SIP:

http://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/network/pidgin-sipe/

Most of the focus the past few years seems to be on hardware phones.
I recall that there were some quite good SIP apps for Android when I
used to use one, and some old Sony Ericsson feature phones can make
SIP calls and connect to the LAN by either USB or Bluetooth (like my
old Cybershot C702) if you can find a used one somewhere.

Gigaset make some fairly good SIP phones and base stations (n300)
that have all the features you'd expect from a phone, and can be
extended when combined with a local asterisk PBX running on your LAN.

I know this has drifted away from the subject, but user-friendly SIP
software have always been lacking for some reason, and proprietary
programs like skype have always been more popular unfortunately.

--
Dave
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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Heinz Wiesinger
On Tuesday, 22 February 2022 14:27:57 CET Sebastian Arcus wrote:
> I haven't been able to get Ekiga to work any more since end of March
> 2021 after updating this machine to latest -current (at the time). I
> eventually managed to get it compiled and installed, but then when
> trying to connect to any sip account it crashes.
> 
> When trying to recompile it now I noticed that ponce's SBo git repo now
> doesn't have Ekiga or Opal any more. Do I take it that Ekiga is now
> being phased out from SBo? I guess it makes sense as the upstream code
> hasn't been updated for a few years.
> 
> I would be ok with switching to another SIP client - but haven't found
> any so far which actually work properly. Linphone installs fine, but
> when I try to add a SIP account, it just doesn't do it. No error, nothing.
> 
> Any suggestions for a SIP client, or how to get Ekiga to work again
> please? I would prefer a client which supports multiple accounts - but
> frankly at this stage I would try anything. Thank you.

There is twinkle:

https://github.com/LubosD/twinkle

No SlackBuild for that in the repo, but it seems reasonably active/uptodate.

Grs,
Heinz

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Re: [Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Μιχάλης Μιχαλούδης

> 
> 22 Φεβ 2022, 15:28, ο χρήστης «Sebastian Arcus » έγραψε:
> 
> Any suggestions for a SIP client, or how to get Ekiga to work again please? I 
> would prefer a client which supports multiple accounts - but frankly at this 
> stage I would try anything. Thank you.

Latest version of Ekiga is from 2012.

Try Linphone. In 2008 I was using a freeware closed source, also available on 
Linux but I forgot the name.

I try now to fix yate 
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[Slackbuilds-users] Is Ekiga being phased out of SBo

2022-02-22 Thread Sebastian Arcus
I haven't been able to get Ekiga to work any more since end of March 
2021 after updating this machine to latest -current (at the time). I 
eventually managed to get it compiled and installed, but then when 
trying to connect to any sip account it crashes.


When trying to recompile it now I noticed that ponce's SBo git repo now 
doesn't have Ekiga or Opal any more. Do I take it that Ekiga is now 
being phased out from SBo? I guess it makes sense as the upstream code 
hasn't been updated for a few years.


I would be ok with switching to another SIP client - but haven't found 
any so far which actually work properly. Linphone installs fine, but 
when I try to add a SIP account, it just doesn't do it. No error, nothing.


Any suggestions for a SIP client, or how to get Ekiga to work again 
please? I would prefer a client which supports multiple accounts - but 
frankly at this stage I would try anything. Thank you.

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