Newbie Question

2005-09-30 Thread Jeff Gaynor

Hi,

I am new to webdav and slide. I have a feasibility question:

Is it possible to use webdav over SSL under tomcat?

We have a project in which we transfer files via SSL and would very much 
like to add webdav support. Has anyone done this?  It would be great if 
there were a wiki page or some FAQ about this.


Cordially,

jjg

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webdav via slide and SSL

2005-09-30 Thread Jeff Gaynor

I tried posting this earlier, but it did not seem to work.

We have a web-based file management system that works over SSL and would 
like to use webdav and eventually Slide with it. Here is my newbie 
question as I orient myself:


It is possible to run webdav over SSL?

Is there an FAQ/how-to someplace? This would be under Tomcat.

Thanks in Advance,

J

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Re: Get sources from CVS

2005-09-30 Thread Davide Savazzi
On 9/29/05, V K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Using eclipse when I try to get sources from CVS repository, I get a time out 
 error.

Slide sources are in a subversion repository now:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/slide/trunk/

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RE: Get sources from CVS

2005-09-30 Thread Max Pfingsthorn
Hi!

You should use the SVN repository here:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/jakarta/slide/

You can use http://subclipse.tigris.org/, its a subversion eclipse client.

Bye!
max

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 From: V K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 21:31
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 Subject: Get sources from CVS
 
 
 Hi All,
  
 Using eclipse when I try to get sources from CVS repository, 
 I get a time out error.
  
 We have a T1 internet connection and is very fast. 
  
 Any help would be appreciated in this regards.
  
 VK
  
 
   
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RE: webdav via slide and SSL

2005-09-30 Thread Max Pfingsthorn
I think this should be a configuration option in your application server. I 
personally don't use Tomcat, but I think you can configure the slide webapp to 
use https settings...

Have a look here: 
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/ssl-howto.html. Be aware that 
the standard https port is 443, not the one mentioned in the howto.

max

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Gaynor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 20:37
 To: Slide Users Mailing List
 Subject: webdav via slide and SSL
 
 
 I tried posting this earlier, but it did not seem to work.
 
 We have a web-based file management system that works over 
 SSL and would 
 like to use webdav and eventually Slide with it. Here is my newbie 
 question as I orient myself:
 
 It is possible to run webdav over SSL?
 
 Is there an FAQ/how-to someplace? This would be under Tomcat.
 
 Thanks in Advance,
 
 J
 
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RE: New webdav server - survey of interest

2005-09-30 Thread Miguel Figueiredo

Hello,

 Regarding the webdav features, our partners are really interested on the
basic webdav, ACL, Versioning, Binding and DASL features. Besides that,
event triggering is a real plus on Slide although its not part of the webdav
specs.

 We felt that the TxStore is a solid and consistent way to persist our
content and metainformation despite Slide's lack of performance (we tested
different DB stores against TxStore and, after the resources are loaded into
memory, every store has the same performance). We have the feeling that
Slide's frightening core architecture and the poor implementation of ACL
(perhaps forced by the architecture) is the main reason of slide's less than
optimal performance.
 We didn't felt necessary to use slide transactions features, although we
have the feeling that this feature really helps on Slide's internal
consistency.

 Like Michael Oliver said earlier, the ability to configure different stores
might be important for integration purposes with other document management
systems. What's missing on slide is a standard way of doing it... perhaps
designing a SPI, or even  better, support the JSR 170 for storage
[southbound] (and while we are on it for interfacing with other software
[northbound] would be really cool)

 Hope this helps,
 Miguel Figueiredo

-Original Message-
From: Jarrah Hands [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de Setembro de 2005 2:13
To: 'Slide Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: New webdav server - survey of interest

Davenport isn't too bad for small scale/ease of use, especially now that
JCIFS is at version 1.2.4 and a little more stable. Not as customizable as
slide though (very easy to set up and tie in with windows domains/samba
shares though)

Jarrah Hands
Software Engineer (Business Applications)
The University of Notre Dame Australia
19 Mouat Street (PO Box 1225)
Fremantle, Western Australia 6959
Tel: +61 9 9433 05287
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: V K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, 30 September 2005 7:39 AM
To: Slide Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: New webdav server - survey of interest

What are the recommendations on existing WebDAV products besides Slide?
 
VK

Michael Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the surface it sounds interesting.

To me the features of slide that I value the most are the custom stores that
allow me to integrate with the outside world most easily and the TxFile
stores are great, but I can extend them because they are open source to
accommodate my needs.

The only complaints I have center on performance (mostly because they save
way too much redundant metadata) and on some details that seem less than
fully thought out, like member-list attributes and consistency.

So a commercial product that solves the problems while preserving the power
and flexibility would indeed be interesting. 


Michael Oliver
CTO
Alarius Systems LLC
6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
Las Vegas, NV 89156
Phone:(702)643-7425
Fax:(702)974-0341
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-Original Message-
From: KR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:59 PM
To: slide-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: New webdav server - survey of interest

Hi,
I'm trying to get an idea of the needs of developers using webdav-based
solutions. We are building a webdav server with the following
characteristics and would like to get an idea of interest from this group in
using something like this.

Features:
- Webdav server supporting versioning but not deltaV
- Simple java API to tie your apps directly (API will be similar to
java.io.File api - direct and intuitive)
- Meta-data stored in database, files on distributed file servers with
redundant storage (every file stored on n-server nodes; automatic
replication if node fails; dynamically add any number of server nodes).
- Focus on performance, performance, performance (one of the shortcomings of
slide is that it tries to be too generic).
- Externally managed user definition with user and security API (not ACL
protocol, but ACL/permission based security)
- Every user has their own home dir. Ability to map to other directories,
ability to soft-link to any directory (a windows-like network-folder model)

Future versions will support full-text search and other features. This would
be a commercial product.
Your feedback is appreciated.




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RE: New webdav server - survey of interest

2005-09-30 Thread Max Pfingsthorn
Hello!

I've spent a lot of time trying to find the bottlenecks in Slide. It seems to 
be the extra stuff that makes it slow. After profiling once, I found the 
following:

1. Checking credentials is very expensive (done multiple times while accessing 
a resource)
2. Checking for locks is also expensive (also done all over the place)
3. DASL basicsearch is not at all efficient since it does not allow limit 
without orderby, and orderby loads _all_ results into memory which means 
properties as well, so there is major load on the store (JDBC in our case).

I tried to solve this using Lucene's built in sorting feature, and that works 
great. Now, you don't have to check credentials on 5000 result resources if you 
just want to order them and take the first 10 (like give me the most recently 
modified items). I've got a patch in bugzilla for this, but I need to work on 
it a bit more to make it fit into slide proper 100%. Right now, it still 
contains some assumptions given our homegrown architecture.

The stores principle is also very important here, especially the 
JNDIPrincipleStore.

Best regards,

Max Pfingsthorn

Hippo  

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1017WT Amsterdam
The Netherlands
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 -Original Message-
 From: Miguel Figueiredo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 30, 2005 11:55
 To: 'Slide Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: New webdav server - survey of interest
 
 
 
 Hello,
 
  Regarding the webdav features, our partners are really 
 interested on the
 basic webdav, ACL, Versioning, Binding and DASL features. 
 Besides that,
 event triggering is a real plus on Slide although its not 
 part of the webdav
 specs.
 
  We felt that the TxStore is a solid and consistent way to persist our
 content and metainformation despite Slide's lack of 
 performance (we tested
 different DB stores against TxStore and, after the resources 
 are loaded into
 memory, every store has the same performance). We have the 
 feeling that
 Slide's frightening core architecture and the poor 
 implementation of ACL
 (perhaps forced by the architecture) is the main reason of 
 slide's less than
 optimal performance.
  We didn't felt necessary to use slide transactions features, 
 although we
 have the feeling that this feature really helps on Slide's internal
 consistency.
 
  Like Michael Oliver said earlier, the ability to configure 
 different stores
 might be important for integration purposes with other 
 document management
 systems. What's missing on slide is a standard way of doing 
 it... perhaps
 designing a SPI, or even  better, support the JSR 170 for storage
 [southbound] (and while we are on it for interfacing with 
 other software
 [northbound] would be really cool)
 
  Hope this helps,
  Miguel Figueiredo
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jarrah Hands [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: sexta-feira, 30 de Setembro de 2005 2:13
 To: 'Slide Users Mailing List'
 Subject: RE: New webdav server - survey of interest
 
 Davenport isn't too bad for small scale/ease of use, 
 especially now that
 JCIFS is at version 1.2.4 and a little more stable. Not as 
 customizable as
 slide though (very easy to set up and tie in with windows 
 domains/samba
 shares though)
 
 Jarrah Hands
 Software Engineer (Business Applications)
 The University of Notre Dame Australia
 19 Mouat Street (PO Box 1225)
 Fremantle, Western Australia 6959
 Tel: +61 9 9433 05287
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 From: V K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, 30 September 2005 7:39 AM
 To: Slide Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: New webdav server - survey of interest
 
 What are the recommendations on existing WebDAV products 
 besides Slide?
  
 VK
 
 Michael Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On the surface it sounds interesting.
 
 To me the features of slide that I value the most are the 
 custom stores that
 allow me to integrate with the outside world most easily and 
 the TxFile
 stores are great, but I can extend them because they are open 
 source to
 accommodate my needs.
 
 The only complaints I have center on performance (mostly 
 because they save
 way too much redundant metadata) and on some details that 
 seem less than
 fully thought out, like member-list attributes and consistency.
 
 So a commercial product that solves the problems while 
 preserving the power
 and flexibility would indeed be interesting. 
 
 
 Michael Oliver
 CTO
 Alarius Systems LLC
 6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
 Las Vegas, NV 89156
 Phone:(702)643-7425
 Fax:(702)974-0341
 *Note new email changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 -Original Message-
 From: KR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:59 PM
 To: slide-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: New webdav server - survey of interest
 
 Hi,
 I'm trying to get an 

RE: webdav via slide and SSL

2005-09-30 Thread Michael Oliver
SSL works out in front of Tomcat and Slide is agnostic to it, AFAIK! 


Michael Oliver
CTO
Alarius Systems LLC
6800 E. Lake Mead Blvd, #1096
Las Vegas, NV 89156
Phone:(702)643-7425
Fax:(702)974-0341
*Note new email changed from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Gaynor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:37 AM
To: Slide Users Mailing List
Subject: webdav via slide and SSL

I tried posting this earlier, but it did not seem to work.

We have a web-based file management system that works over SSL and would
like to use webdav and eventually Slide with it. Here is my newbie question
as I orient myself:

It is possible to run webdav over SSL?

Is there an FAQ/how-to someplace? This would be under Tomcat.

Thanks in Advance,

J

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