Re: [newbie] Slide with read-only support?
Hi Darren, just wondering: If you want read only access than why not use a a simple HTTP server? Or did I get you wrong? Oliver Darren Hartford schrieb: Hey all, Very new to Slide, and coming in from the J2EE side looking for a solution to support transactional file storage (with possible integration with Enterprise Media Beans (EMB) for actual presentation). One of my concerns before getting too far in was simply this - since Slide is based (partly) on WebDAV, from what I understand WebDAV needs to have write-access for the files under its management. The question is, can you add a storage location such as a CD/DVD/Jukebox to a Slide repository for read-only access to the files stored on that type of media? thanks, -D - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Slide with read-only support?
Hi Oliver, I'm looking for a single interface to use. The end result is I'm looking for an 'image repository' that supports Hierarchial Storage Management (HSM) where an image could be stored on local drive, NAS, CD/DVD rom, remote Jukebox, or other storage media in a scenario where a single image may be stored in multiple locations. Second thing is the 'metadata repository' to do searches against to find the correct image(s). In this context, metadata/index data/search data represents business information and not image metadata (names, codes, dates, etc). The business information is stored in XML, and searches would be done with XPATH/XQuery. Tieing the two repositories together is still in question, but that is where integration comes in (search XML, return X-many results, in the results mention a image identifier, search image repostiories for instance(s) of that image identifier across the HSM, retrieve image). Since Slide supports both file storage and XML DB storage, it makes sense to use this *one* tool for both of the above repositories. Since I would like to support HSM and allow CD/DVD/Jukebox access to images that no longer require high-speed access, the question brought up is if Slide can access and manage a 'store' located on CD/DVD/Jukebox to have one interface for retrieving all images (for application integration). End result - looking to build a Document Management Repository. One of the Slide-Architecture diagrams talks about using Slide to store information into a Doucment Management Repository, but I'm rather looking to create one. p.s. thanks for the very timely response! -D > -Original Message- > From: Oliver Zeigermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:57 AM > To: Slide Users Mailing List > Subject: Re: [newbie] Slide with read-only support? > > > Hi Darren, > > just wondering: If you want read only access than why not use > a a simple > HTTP server? Or did I get you wrong? > > Oliver > > Darren Hartford schrieb: > > Hey all, > > Very new to Slide, and coming in from the J2EE side looking > for a solution to support transactional file storage (with > possible integration with Enterprise Media Beans (EMB) for > actual presentation). > > > > One of my concerns before getting too far in was simply > this - since Slide is based (partly) on WebDAV, from what I > understand WebDAV needs to have write-access for the files > under its management. The question is, can you add a storage > location such as a CD/DVD/Jukebox to a Slide repository for > read-only access to the files stored on that type of media? > > > > thanks, > > -D > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Slide with read-only support?
I do not think this will work without any modification in the Slide stores, but they should be minor and doable. Oliver Darren Hartford schrieb: Hi Oliver, I'm looking for a single interface to use. The end result is I'm looking for an 'image repository' that supports Hierarchial Storage Management (HSM) where an image could be stored on local drive, NAS, CD/DVD rom, remote Jukebox, or other storage media in a scenario where a single image may be stored in multiple locations. Second thing is the 'metadata repository' to do searches against to find the correct image(s). In this context, metadata/index data/search data represents business information and not image metadata (names, codes, dates, etc). The business information is stored in XML, and searches would be done with XPATH/XQuery. Tieing the two repositories together is still in question, but that is where integration comes in (search XML, return X-many results, in the results mention a image identifier, search image repostiories for instance(s) of that image identifier across the HSM, retrieve image). Since Slide supports both file storage and XML DB storage, it makes sense to use this *one* tool for both of the above repositories. Since I would like to support HSM and allow CD/DVD/Jukebox access to images that no longer require high-speed access, the question brought up is if Slide can access and manage a 'store' located on CD/DVD/Jukebox to have one interface for retrieving all images (for application integration). End result - looking to build a Document Management Repository. One of the Slide-Architecture diagrams talks about using Slide to store information into a Doucment Management Repository, but I'm rather looking to create one. p.s. thanks for the very timely response! -D -Original Message- From: Oliver Zeigermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:57 AM To: Slide Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [newbie] Slide with read-only support? Hi Darren, just wondering: If you want read only access than why not use a a simple HTTP server? Or did I get you wrong? Oliver Darren Hartford schrieb: Hey all, Very new to Slide, and coming in from the J2EE side looking for a solution to support transactional file storage (with possible integration with Enterprise Media Beans (EMB) for actual presentation). One of my concerns before getting too far in was simply this - since Slide is based (partly) on WebDAV, from what I understand WebDAV needs to have write-access for the files under its management. The question is, can you add a storage location such as a CD/DVD/Jukebox to a Slide repository for read-only access to the files stored on that type of media? thanks, -D - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Slide with read-only support?
Just a thought. Would it be possible to use Alon's new simple file stores for the node/content store and a jdbc store for the revisiondescriptors? As far as Slide could tell the files would be writeable (I suppose you could set an inheritted write-content denied ACE) but Slide handles non-writeable stores fairly well (JNDI store for instance). If I understand the problem description correctly (I'm on codine right now so no promises) you might want one jdbc-only store for your business metadata and one simple file store/jdbc metadata store for each data location (CD/DVD/etc). All you'd really end up storing for the metadata on the files would be the storage key (or whatever you called it). -James On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 07:29, Oliver Zeigermann wrote: > I do not think this will work without any modification in the Slide > stores, but they should be minor and doable. > > Oliver > > Darren Hartford schrieb: > > > Hi Oliver, > > I'm looking for a single interface to use. The end result is I'm looking for an > > 'image repository' that supports Hierarchial Storage Management (HSM) where an > > image could be stored on local drive, NAS, CD/DVD rom, remote Jukebox, or other > > storage media in a scenario where a single image may be stored in multiple > > locations. > > > > Second thing is the 'metadata repository' to do searches against to find the > > correct image(s). In this context, metadata/index data/search data represents > > business information and not image metadata (names, codes, dates, etc). The > > business information is stored in XML, and searches would be done with > > XPATH/XQuery. > > > > Tieing the two repositories together is still in question, but that is where > > integration comes in (search XML, return X-many results, in the results mention a > > image identifier, search image repostiories for instance(s) of that image > > identifier across the HSM, retrieve image). > > > > Since Slide supports both file storage and XML DB storage, it makes sense to use > > this *one* tool for both of the above repositories. Since I would like to support > > HSM and allow CD/DVD/Jukebox access to images that no longer require high-speed > > access, the question brought up is if Slide can access and manage a 'store' > > located on CD/DVD/Jukebox to have one interface for retrieving all images (for > > application integration). > > > > End result - looking to build a Document Management Repository. One of the > > Slide-Architecture diagrams talks about using Slide to store information into a > > Doucment Management Repository, but I'm rather looking to create one. > > > > p.s. thanks for the very timely response! > > > > -D > > > > > > > > > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Oliver Zeigermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:57 AM > >>To: Slide Users Mailing List > >>Subject: Re: [newbie] Slide with read-only support? > >> > >> > >>Hi Darren, > >> > >>just wondering: If you want read only access than why not use > >>a a simple > >>HTTP server? Or did I get you wrong? > >> > >>Oliver > >> > >>Darren Hartford schrieb: > >> > >>>Hey all, > >>>Very new to Slide, and coming in from the J2EE side looking > >> > >>for a solution to support transactional file storage (with > >>possible integration with Enterprise Media Beans (EMB) for > >>actual presentation). > >> > >>>One of my concerns before getting too far in was simply > >> > >>this - since Slide is based (partly) on WebDAV, from what I > >>understand WebDAV needs to have write-access for the files > >>under its management. The question is, can you add a storage > >>location such as a CD/DVD/Jukebox to a Slide repository for > >>read-only access to the files stored on that type of media? > >> > >>>thanks, > >>>-D > >>> > >>> > >> > >>- > >> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [newbie] Slide with read-only support?
I actually did burn a CD last night of the entire 'store' directory containing both
the TxFileStore and the TxXMLFileDescriptors, but it looks like I won't be able to
test until late Monday reading the CD as a store configured in Slide.
The goal is for Archival/digital preservation, so keeping a semblance of the
metadata/descriptors on the CD is essential, although a tool to pull them off the CD
and use a faster mechanism for searching definately would be wiser. Luckily, this is
already planned by allowing an indexing mechism to be stored whereever you would like
to define it (aka the LuceneNode Indexer for descriptors storing the ./index on a
local hard drive), while keeping the full metadata safely on read-only optical disc
(and, at least for me, in generic XML descriptor files versus binary descriptor
file(s)).
As you mentioned James, one of my concerns was WebDAV/Slide always assuming the
content was writable per the original question. Theory until actually try it out, but
thanks for the JNDI store as a reference!
-D
-Original Message-
From: James Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 10/7/2004 6:11 PM
To: Slide Users Mailing List
Cc:
Subject: Re: [newbie] Slide with read-only support?
Just a thought. Would it be possible to use Alon's new simple file
stores for the node/content store and a jdbc store for the
revisiondescriptors? As far as Slide could tell the files would be
writeable (I suppose you could set an inheritted write-content denied
ACE) but Slide handles non-writeable stores fairly well (JNDI store for
instance).
If I understand the problem description correctly (I'm on codine right
now so no promises) you might want one jdbc-only store for your business
metadata and one simple file store/jdbc metadata store for each data
location (CD/DVD/etc). All you'd really end up storing for the metadata
on the files would be the storage key (or whatever you called it).
-James
On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 07:29, Oliver Zeigermann wrote:
> I do not think this will work without any modification in the Slide
> stores, but they should be minor and doable.
>
> Oliver
>
> Darren Hartford schrieb:
>
> > Hi Oliver,
> > I'm looking for a single interface to use. The end result is I'm looking
for an 'image repository' that supports Hierarchial Storage Management (HSM) where an
image could be stored on local drive, NAS, CD/DVD rom, remote Jukebox, or other
storage media in a scenario where a single image may be stored in multiple locations.
> >
> > Second thing is the 'metadata repository' to do searches against to find
the correct image(s). In this context, metadata/index data/search data represents
business information and not image metadata (names, codes, dates, etc). The business
information is stored in XML, and searches would be done with XPATH/XQuery.
> >
> > Tieing the two repositories together is still in question, but that is
where integration comes in (search XML, return X-many results, in the results mention
a image identifier, search image repostiories for instance(s) of that image identifier
across the HSM, retrieve image).
> >
> > Since Slide supports both file storage and XML DB storage, it makes sense
to use this *one* tool for both of the above repositories. Since I would like to
support HSM and allow CD/DVD/Jukebox access to images that no longer require
high-speed access, the question brought up is if Slide can access and manage a 'store'
located on CD/DVD/Jukebox to have one interface for retrieving all images (for
application integration).
> >
> > End result - looking to build a Document Management Repository. One of
the Slide-Architecture diagrams talks about using Slide to store information into a
Doucment Management Repository, but I'm rather looking to create one.
> >
> > p.s. thanks for the very timely response!
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Oliver Zeigermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:57 AM
> >>To: Slide Users Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: [newbie] Slide with read-only support?
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi Darren,
> >>
> >>just wondering: If you want read only access than why not use
> >&
