[SLUG] Re: That Nagle thing again

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Howard Lowndes}
> No, you're missing the point.  I want the xterm running on the local
> machine, not the remote machine, so that it can use the tunnel set up by
> the redirection; IOW on the same machine that starts the redirection.

in that case, try:
 xterm -e ssh -x cwsvr

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Re: [SLUG] Dual boot Linux & Dos/wfwg

[Heracles]

Ken Caldwell wrote:
 
  Terry Collins wrote:
 >
 > The boss's (SWMBO) pentium has finally spat the dummy and needs
a
 > complete rebuild, so it is an opportunity to put in a bigger
hard disk
 > and convert it to dual boot. The dual boot will be Suse6.4 &
DOS(WFWG).
 >
 > Does anyone know of any gotcha's with this?

One possible problem. I found that it was usually better to set up
the boot sector of the Linux partition as the repository for lilo.
Something Windows for Workgroups writes to the boot sector seems
to get fscked by lilo - or maybe it was just my old system. I had
no problems with other versions of windows, just wfw. YMMV.

stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] That Nagle thing again

[Howard Lowndes]

No, you're missing the point.  I want the xterm running on the local
machine, not the remote machine, so that it can use the tunnel set up by
the redirection; IOW on the same machine that starts the redirection.

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On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, John Ferlito wrote:

> > In the meantime I am looking at alternatives using a redirected ssh
> > session and I am trying to get the following script to work:
> > 
> > #!/bin/sh
> > PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/X11
> > PORT=4104
> > ssh -x -L ${PORT}:cwsvr:${PORT} cwsvr
> > sleep 5
> > xterm -e telnet localhost ${PORT}
> > 
> how about you just do
> 
> ssh -x -L ${PORT}:cwsvr:${PORT} cwsvr xterm -e telnet localhost ${PORT}
> 
> ie ssh treats anything on the command line after the remote machine as
> the remote process to run instead of the default shell



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Re: [SLUG] That Nagle thing again

[John Ferlito]

On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 05:42:22PM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> Well, I have managed to find the source code for telnet and am trying to
> make some sense out of it, never having studied C in depth, or even in the
> shallows.
> 
> In the meantime I am looking at alternatives using a redirected ssh
> session and I am trying to get the following script to work:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/X11
> PORT=4104
> ssh -x -L ${PORT}:cwsvr:${PORT} cwsvr
> sleep 5
> xterm -e telnet localhost ${PORT}
> 
how about you just do

ssh -x -L ${PORT}:cwsvr:${PORT} cwsvr xterm -e telnet localhost ${PORT}

ie ssh treats anything on the command line after the remote machine as
the remote process to run instead of the default shell

> 
> The idea is that the redirect by the ssh is set up, 5 seconds is then
> allowed for it to establish followed by an xterm/telnet session starting.
> 
> The problem is that I can't get the ssh line to background so that the
> remainder of the script continues, it just leaves me at the prompt on the
> cwsvr.
> 
> Could someone give me a short bash lesson on this one, pse.
> 
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[SLUG] That Nagle thing again

[Howard Lowndes]

Well, I have managed to find the source code for telnet and am trying to
make some sense out of it, never having studied C in depth, or even in the
shallows.

In the meantime I am looking at alternatives using a redirected ssh
session and I am trying to get the following script to work:

#!/bin/sh
PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin/X11
PORT=4104
ssh -x -L ${PORT}:cwsvr:${PORT} cwsvr
sleep 5
xterm -e telnet localhost ${PORT}


The idea is that the redirect by the ssh is set up, 5 seconds is then
allowed for it to establish followed by an xterm/telnet session starting.

The problem is that I can't get the ssh line to background so that the
remainder of the script continues, it just leaves me at the prompt on the
cwsvr.

Could someone give me a short bash lesson on this one, pse.

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[SLUG] Re: Perl Quicky

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Dean Hamstead}
> I would like to strip special characters
> eg. anything not A..Z a..z 0..9

 s/[^A-Za-z0-9]//g;

if you want to include "_" too, you can use:
 s/\W//g;

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Re: [SLUG] Re: md5 passwords

[John Ferlito]

On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 03:34:38PM +1100, Angus Lees wrote:
> \begin{John Ferlito}
> > anyone remember how to switch debian over to md5 passwords after
> > you've finished the install?
> 
> add the "md5" option to your pam setup

Yeah I thought there was a script somewhere. Found it by
actually installing debian and then working out what script it was
running when it asked me the question. Just a bit of sed that gets run
over the pam files.

Therefore it seems a cut and paste into cfengine will be in
order :) Trying to setup automatic installs of debian boxes is heaps of
fun.

Actually would anyone be interested in a talk on doing auto
installs of lots of boxes. Might be able to do one meeting after next.
Will probably have tripped over all the problems by then.

> 
> converting the passwds over (ie: cracking DES and then re-encrypting
> with MD5) is left as an exercise for the reader..
> 
> (you could try to rig up an interim thing with pam so it supported
> either. that would be .. interesting ..)

you don't need too. PAM can tell the difference between MD5 and
DES and will fall back if the password is of the old type.  So if you
really want to force everyone to change you just set password expiry for
the next time they log in.

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Re: [SLUG] Perl Quicky

[Ken Yap]

>I would like to strip special characters
>eg. anything not A..Z a..z 0..9

>From what? A string, a line, a whole file? Anyway have a look at the
translit operator (y or tr) under man perlop, with the c and d options.


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[SLUG] Perl Quicky

[Dean Hamstead]

I would like to strip special characters
eg. anything not A..Z a..z 0..9

Dean
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[SLUG] Re: libxml.so.2

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Simon Bryan}
> Anyone know where I can get this from?
> libxml.so.2

roach:~> grep ftp /usr/doc/libxml?/copyright
/usr/doc/libxml1/copyright:It was downloaded from ftp.gnome.org.
/usr/doc/libxml2/copyright:It was downloaded from ftp.gnome.org.


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[SLUG] Re: md5 passwords

[Angus Lees]

\begin{John Ferlito}
>   anyone remember how to switch debian over to md5 passwords after
> you've finished the install?

add the "md5" option to your pam setup

converting the passwds over (ie: cracking DES and then re-encrypting
with MD5) is left as an exercise for the reader..

(you could try to rig up an interim thing with pam so it supported
either. that would be .. interesting ..)

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Re: [SLUG] libxml.so.2

[Rick Welykochy]

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Simon Bryan wrote:

> Anyone know where I can get this from?
> 
> libxml.so.2
> 
> for Redhat 6.1 if that matters.

I haven't checked it out thoroughly, but google.com reports
this as the first-up link:

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/libxml.so.2.html

and the web page looks fine. Let us know how you go.



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[SLUG] Re: [lias] libxml.so.2

[Andrew Dorrell]

Simon Bryan wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Anyone know where I can get this from?
> 
> libxml.so.2
> 
> for Redhat 6.1 if that matters.
> 
> Cheers,

darin% rpm -qf /usr/lib/libxml.so
libxml-devel-1.0.0-2


That is, you need a newer version of libxml-devel...  First place to
look is http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/linux/redhat.  You may have to
look in the contrib dirs

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RE: [SLUG] libxml.so.2

[George Vieira]

When I have a missing library and don't know where it's from I usually go to
RPMFIND and search it. It usually pops up as part of a package of some other
software..

thanks,
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Network Administrator
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-Original Message-
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Subject: [SLUG] libxml.so.2


Hi,
Anyone know where I can get this from?

libxml.so.2

for Redhat 6.1 if that matters.

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RE: [SLUG] libxml.so.2

[Andrew Foster]

Google knows all..

http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/gnome/contrib/redhat/i386/Base/libxml2-2.2.7-1.
i386.html

Andrew.

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Subject: [SLUG] libxml.so.2


Hi,
Anyone know where I can get this from?

libxml.so.2

for Redhat 6.1 if that matters.

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[SLUG] libxml.so.2

[Simon Bryan]

Hi,
Anyone know where I can get this from?

libxml.so.2

for Redhat 6.1 if that matters.

Cheers,

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[SLUG] md5 passwords

[John Ferlito]

anyone remember how to switch debian over to md5 passwords after
you've finished the install?

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Re: [SLUG] "idled" daemon

[Stephen Robert Norris]

On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 11:23:21AM +1100, James Wilkinson wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins said:
> >James Wilkinson wrote:
> >
> >> Er, I think this is illegal in unix-land.  You need at least one alpha
> >> character first.  I think the syntax of usernames follows that of C
> >> variable names.
> >
> >Keep trying. 
> >Numbers make it really handy to track people up to no good; first you
> >have to copy the number correctly, then contact administration to find
> >out who it is, then you start to have some idea of who is involved.
> >
> >Just great for personal service.
> 
> I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, so I'll assume you're not.  I
> don't see how a username stops you being anymore trackable than having a
> usernumber.  If people have some kind of id number, then perhaps a db to
> look up name->id?
> 
> After 3 years of having an ugly usernumber at UNSW, I'm firmly against
> it.  I don't think the username is the place to store your unique id;
> anyone who's done work with databases knows you don't make your id any
> of the data fields.
> 
> I think I'm just rambling now, and this is going off topic.
> 
> -- 
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Sydney Uni used to do this too - the privacy laws stopped them, as they needed
the student IDs to be "private" so they could use them to give out exams
results etc.

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Re: [SLUG] Dual boot Linux & Dos/wfwg

[Ken Caldwell]

Michael Lake wrote:
> 
> Terry Collins wrote:
> >
> > The boss's (SWMBO) pentium has finally spat the dummy and needs a
> > complete rebuild, so it is an opportunity to put in a bigger hard disk
> > and convert it to dual boot. The dual boot will be Suse6.4 & DOS(WFWG).
> >
> > Does anyone know of any gotcha's with this?
> 
> SUSE 6.4 installs the Reiser filesystem and this is
> incompatible with NFS on other non-Reiser filesystems. You
> get a choice at install time; if u want fast reboots after
> probs go Reiser if you need to run NFS go ext2.

Furthermore avoid Reiser if you plan to use Win4Lin later on.  The
precompiled SuSE Win4Lin kernel does not work with SuSE's implementation
of the Reiser fs in their 6.4 distribution.

Ken


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Re: [SLUG] Maildir clients

[Michael]

Thanks to those who emailed me a response... I looked at patches and then
looked at latest debian kernel source debs/diffs for pine and it appears
they had been patched after all.

So I am once more using Pine :P

Thanks again

On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Anand Kumria wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 11:15:43AM +1100, Michael wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > 
> > I have since changed my qmail setup to delivery messages to $HOME/Maildir
> 
> Your delivering into an NFS based mail-spool?
> 
> > Only issue I have is I can't seem to find a nice client that I can use when I have 
>ssh connection to machine.
> > 
> > I still like pine, but it doesn't support the Maildir format. I have seen patches 
>around for it, but it seems the patches are all for the imap part of the package. I 
>use courier-imap as my imapd, and qmail-pop3d as my pop3d server.
> 
> http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/patches/others.html>
> 
> > I'd really like to get pine to work, is it possible? Has someone done it? If not, 
>can someone recommend a good reader for shell prompt.
> > 
> 
> All MUA (Mail User Agents) suck. Yes, even mutt.
> 
> Anand
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[SLUG] Re: telnet tarballs

[Angus Lees]

\begin{Howard Lowndes}
> Where should I be looking for the telnet source tarball?

roach:~> grep tp: /usr/doc/telnet/copyright 
It was downloaded from ftp://ftp.uk.linux.org/pub/linux/Networking/netkit/.

i've found the debian copyright files (accessible from
packages.debian.org if they aren't local) are very useful for finding
upstream sites.

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Re: [SLUG] "idled" daemon

[Peter Chubb]

> "Rachel" == Rachel Polanskis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Rachel> Hi sluggers,
Rachel> We have been using a daemin called "idled" for some time 
Rachel> to logout users who we don't want left logged in forever or 
Rachel> to exempt userssuch as myself from being logged out. 

Rachel> I then decided to return to the source but I can't locate 
Rachel> where it bombs, except in a yacc file "parse.y".  Now, yacc is as 
Rachel> foreign to me as Sanscrit and I think I would go insane trying to 
Rachel> learn it. 

Rachel> I checked my Sun headers and there doesn't appear to be anything stopping 
Rachel> me usin numeric logins in pwnam or it's friends.  "pwck" doesn't 
Rachel> seem to like all numeric logins either but very little else has 
Rachel> broken (even sudo now has numeric login support).  

There's nothing to stop you using all numeric login names, except that 
lots of programs assume that you can't (they typically assume that if
something is all numeric it's a UID not a login name).  POSIX puts no
restrictions on login names.

When I was at Uni, my login name was the same as my student number for 5
years, until I became a postgrad and was allowed a login that matched
my name.  The practice of using all-numeric login names was ceased I
think when the teaching systems were moved off Vaxen and PDP-11s to
Apollos, which refused to accept all-numerics as logins.

Anyway as to your parse.y problem:

Somewhere in parse.y there's this:


who : name_type NAME

That says that a name is a NAME -- which is something that starts with 
an alphabetic character (see the regexp in scan.l).

Unfortunately, changing this to accept a numeric string isn't that
straightforward.   

The simplest way to fix your problem may be to use the `file'
directive: usernames in a file aren't scanned to separate numbers from 
strings, so anything in there will do.

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Re: [SLUG] Dual boot Linux & Dos/wfwg

[Michael Lake]

Terry Collins wrote:
> 
> The boss's (SWMBO) pentium has finally spat the dummy and needs a
> complete rebuild, so it is an opportunity to put in a bigger hard disk
> and convert it to dual boot. The dual boot will be Suse6.4 & DOS(WFWG).
> 
> Does anyone know of any gotcha's with this?

SUSE 6.4 installs the Reiser filesystem and this is
incompatible with NFS on other non-Reiser filesystems. You
get a choice at install time; if u want fast reboots after
probs go Reiser if you need to run NFS go ext2. 

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[SLUG] THEY want to bring it back.

[Jeff Waugh]

 You thought it could never happen.

 You thought they'd never even try.

 You thought the world had changed by now.

 You thought only diehards and masochists could love the dreaded...


http://lpr.sourceforge.net/


 It's back.

And they called it: gnulpr!


   (Surely an lpr comeback sequel would have the
   tagline, "Suffer in your jocks!" wouldn't it?)


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RE: [SLUG] Wickard eth0 errors

[David Kempe]

Heh, cool error message.
www.google.com is your friend for most of these sort of errors. Mailing list
archives are useful.
google seems to point to hardware failure.

btw, use plain text

dave


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Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2000 11:22 AM
To: Sydney Linux Users Group
Subject: [SLUG] Wickard eth0 errors


eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x81d79
length 0 status 0600!
eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cfddd490 vs cfddd490.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.
eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x43a3ce
length 0 status 0600!
eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cfddd4e0 vs cfddd4e0.
eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 0x46ef2a
length 0 status 0600!
eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cfddd4a0 vs cfddd4a0.



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Re: [SLUG] "idled" daemon

[James Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Terry Collins said:
>James Wilkinson wrote:
>
>> Er, I think this is illegal in unix-land.  You need at least one alpha
>> character first.  I think the syntax of usernames follows that of C
>> variable names.
>
>Keep trying. 
>Numbers make it really handy to track people up to no good; first you
>have to copy the number correctly, then contact administration to find
>out who it is, then you start to have some idea of who is involved.
>
>Just great for personal service.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, so I'll assume you're not.  I
don't see how a username stops you being anymore trackable than having a
usernumber.  If people have some kind of id number, then perhaps a db to
look up name->id?

After 3 years of having an ugly usernumber at UNSW, I'm firmly against
it.  I don't think the username is the place to store your unique id;
anyone who's done work with databases knows you don't make your id any
of the data fields.

I think I'm just rambling now, and this is going off topic.

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[SLUG] Wickard eth0 errors

[Alan Lee]

eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple 
buffers, entry 0x81d79 length 0 status 0600!eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame 
cfddd490 vs cfddd490.eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.eth0: 
Something Wicked happened! 2008.eth0: Something Wicked happened! 
2008.eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.eth0: Something Wicked 
happened! 2008.eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.eth0: Something 
Wicked happened! 2008.eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.eth0: 
Something Wicked happened! 2008.eth0: Something Wicked happened! 
2008.eth0: Something Wicked happened! 2008.eth0: Something Wicked 
happened! 2008.eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, 
entry 0x43a3ce length 0 status 0600!eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cfddd4e0 
vs cfddd4e0.eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame spanned multiple buffers, entry 
0x46ef2a length 0 status 0600!eth0: Oversized Ethernet frame cfddd4a0 vs 
cfddd4a0.
 
 
 
Anyone knows what that means? :)
 
 

Re: [SLUG] [OT] ADSL

[Alan Lee]

Im getting the same kinda thing, I wonder what the speed would be like
between 2 ADSL users on the same ISP?

Regards, Alan Lee


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To: "Slug" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [SLUG] [OT] ADSL


> I know a couple of people here have got ADSL. Anyway I got my
> connection during the trial while everything was still based out of
> victoria. But I still seem to be coming out of victoria eg I get
> alocated an IP something like
> CPE-61-9-178-208.vic.bigpond.net.au
>
> Anyone who has gotten a connection more recently are you getting
> a nsw or vic address? Since telstras vic network leaves a lot to be
> desired.
>
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Re: [SLUG] Nagle

[John Ferlito]

On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 09:54:24AM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> I even looked at man telnet and there is an option ( -S ) to set the ToS
> for the session, and RFC1700 suggests that a ToS of 1000 should be used
> for interactive sessions in order to minimise delay.  I thought
> "beaut" and tried it, only to be confronted with:
> # telnet -S 8 cwsvr 4104
> telnet: Warning: -S ignored, no parsetos() support.
> 
> Bugger.  ...and I can't even find the source tarball.

what distro are you running. Remember it's telnet should be
under GPL therefore it has to come with source. So it should just be as
simple as going to your distros site and grabbing the source package.

Of course if you're running debian just
apt-get source telnet 

:)

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RE: [SLUG] [OT] ADSL

[George Vieira]

No, still in Victoria as of last weekend. I can't seem to visit their web
site properly as they have links to http://www/blah/blah etc... I think it's
the domain suffix search order that suppose to kick in there...

dumb Tel$tra.

thanks,
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From: John Ferlito [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 10:58 AM
To: Slug
Subject: [SLUG] [OT] ADSL


I know a couple of people here have got ADSL. Anyway I got my
connection during the trial while everything was still based out of
victoria. But I still seem to be coming out of victoria eg I get
alocated an IP something like
CPE-61-9-178-208.vic.bigpond.net.au

Anyone who has gotten a connection more recently are you getting
a nsw or vic address? Since telstras vic network leaves a lot to be
desired. 

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[SLUG] [OT] ADSL

[John Ferlito]

I know a couple of people here have got ADSL. Anyway I got my
connection during the trial while everything was still based out of
victoria. But I still seem to be coming out of victoria eg I get
alocated an IP something like
CPE-61-9-178-208.vic.bigpond.net.au

Anyone who has gotten a connection more recently are you getting
a nsw or vic address? Since telstras vic network leaves a lot to be
desired. 

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[SLUG] Dual boot Linux & Dos/wfwg

[Terry Collins]

The boss's (SWMBO) pentium has finally spat the dummy and needs a
complete rebuild, so it is an opportunity to put in a bigger hard disk
and convert it to dual boot. The dual boot will be Suse6.4 & DOS(WFWG).

Does anyone know of any gotcha's with this? 

Yep, I haven't done dual boots to now, but I'm not sure wine will run
all the wfwg software we need. 

Also, since I don't want to put the scanner on the same scsi bus, I'll
ask about tricks to making sure the system picks up both SCSI cards.
Unfortunately my adaptec's have aperverse sense of humour and like
playing now-you-see-me, now-you-don't when they get together.

On the otherhand, I could live dangerously and just put linux onto
it.{:-). The language could not be any worse than what I had to put up
with when she moved from dos to wfwfg a year ago. {:-(.

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Re: [SLUG] Nagle

[Howard Lowndes]

I even looked at man telnet and there is an option ( -S ) to set the ToS
for the session, and RFC1700 suggests that a ToS of 1000 should be used
for interactive sessions in order to minimise delay.  I thought
"beaut" and tried it, only to be confronted with:
# telnet -S 8 cwsvr 4104
telnet: Warning: -S ignored, no parsetos() support.

Bugger.  ...and I can't even find the source tarball.

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On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Ken Yap wrote:

> >Alternatively, does anyone know how to disable Nagle in telnet?
> 
> man setsockopt
> man tcp
> /TCP_NODELAY
> 
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Printing woes

[Erich Schulz]

What you have is gostscript bombing out. Try printing to file first and
checking the file with gv. If ghostscipt can't  process the file, you'll
know about it without shoving half the rainforest through your printer.

cheers

erich

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Re: [SLUG] "idled" daemon

[Mark Pearson]

The debian maintainer is  John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. He may be able to
offer some help.

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[SLUG] telnet tarballs

[Howard Lowndes]

Where should I be looking for the telnet source tarball?

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Re: [SLUG] "idled" daemon

[Herbert Xu]

James Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yacc uses regexes, iirc.  Wild guess, but I think it'd be as easy as
> finding the regex for a username (hoping it's commented) and modify
> that.

It's not yacc's job to find tokens.  That's either done using lex or
manually in C.  Have a look at that (yylex() or *.l).
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[SLUG] Thanks

[Richard Blackburn]

Thanks for all the advice on monitors. It goes.
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[SLUG] Printing woes

[Stephen Graham]

Hey all.

I have a printing bug that I think will be dead obvious to someone else,
I just can not see what it is.

I am trying to print to a HP DeskJet 500C attached to a WinNT box (which
is SMBed).  When I print, all I get is:

GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>GS>

on the one line, and then an almighty number of blank pages.

I am using apsfilter as my filter, and the print command I am using to
test is:

a2ps /etc/fstab

Below is an example entry in printcap:

lp|lp2|cdj500-a4-auto-mono|cdj500 auto mono:\
:lp=/dev/deskjet:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/cdj500-a4-auto-mono:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/cdj500-a4-auto-mono/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/cdj500-a4-auto-mono/acct:\
:if=/usr/local/bin/netprint_lp2:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:

/usr/local/bin/netprint_lp2 is just a tiny shell script:

#!/bin/bash
/var/lib/apsfilter/filter/aps-cdj500-a4-auto-mono - $@ | \
/usr/bin/smbprint $@

(NB: I modified smbprint to get rid of the CR/LF conversion, which is
why the GS prints all on 1 line I guess...)

Any help would be most appreciated : )

Stephen

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Re: [SLUG] "idled" daemon

[Jeff Waugh]

> This one time, at band camp, Rachel Polanskis said:


I think this deserves special mention. Laughed until I worried other members
of the household.

James, if you're at the next SLUG meeting, remind me to buy you a BEER.

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] Maildir clients

[Anand Kumria]

On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 10:07:54AM +1100, Peter Hardy wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 11:15:43AM +1100, Michael wrote:
> > I'd really like to get pine to work, is it possible? Has someone done it?
> > If not, can someone recommend a good reader for shell prompt.
> You'll probably find most sluggers recommending mutt, for lots of good
> reasons.  Me, I'm in love with mail threading.  Handles Maildir format out
> of the box.

Pine 4.30 also does threading.

One of the original threading mailers was GNUS (part of Emacs). It is
also something you shoudl try out as well ...

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Re: [SLUG] Maildir clients

[Anand Kumria]

On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 11:15:43AM +1100, Michael wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have since changed my qmail setup to delivery messages to $HOME/Maildir

Your delivering into an NFS based mail-spool?

> Only issue I have is I can't seem to find a nice client that I can use when I have 
>ssh connection to machine.
> 
> I still like pine, but it doesn't support the Maildir format. I have seen patches 
>around for it, but it seems the patches are all for the imap part of the package. I 
>use courier-imap as my imapd, and qmail-pop3d as my pop3d server.

http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/patches/others.html>

> I'd really like to get pine to work, is it possible? Has someone done it? If not, 
>can someone recommend a good reader for shell prompt.
> 

All MUA (Mail User Agents) suck. Yes, even mutt.

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Re: [SLUG] Maildir clients

[Peter Hardy]

On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 11:15:43AM +1100, Michael wrote:
> I'd really like to get pine to work, is it possible? Has someone done it?
> If not, can someone recommend a good reader for shell prompt.
You'll probably find most sluggers recommending mutt, for lots of good
reasons.  Me, I'm in love with mail threading.  Handles Maildir format out
of the box.

> PS. I'll check the thread to this in morning, I need some sleep. Excuse
> mistakes and what not.
Pfft.  Caffeine is your friend :-)

Cheers,
Peter

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[SLUG] Maildir clients

[Michael]

Hi everyone,
 
I have since changed my qmail setup to delivery 
messages to $HOME/Maildir
 
Only issue I have is I can't seem to find a nice 
client that I can use when I have ssh connection to machine.
 
I still like pine, but it doesn't support the 
Maildir format. I have seen patches around for it, but it seems the patches are 
all for the imap part of the package. I use courier-imap as my imapd, and 
qmail-pop3d as my pop3d server.
 
I'd really like to get pine to work, is it possible? Has 
someone done it? If not, can someone recommend a good reader for shell 
prompt.
 
Thanks
Michael
 
PS. I'll check the thread to this in morning, I need some 
sleep. Excuse mistakes and what not.

Re: [SLUG] "idled" daemon

[Terry Collins]

James Wilkinson wrote:

> Er, I think this is illegal in unix-land.  You need at least one alpha
> character first.  I think the syntax of usernames follows that of C
> variable names.

Which will probably result in a prefix system like;

s for staff
e for engineers (always handy to know who they are),
i for IT
a for architects - woops that will be a for agriculture out there {:-)
b for business,.. etc.

Keep trying. 
Numbers make it really handy to track people up to no good; first you
have to copy the number correctly, then contact administration to find
out who it is, then you start to have some idea of who is involved.

Just great for personal service.

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Re: [SLUG] Music Editor/Notator

[Peter Hardy]

Going back to this thread for a minute.  Searching for "lilypond" on
freshmeat turns up Denemo, a gtk+ frontend to lilypond.
http://denemo.sourceforge.net/

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] "idled" daemon

[James Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Rachel Polanskis said:

>Now we are moving to all numeric logins (not my idea, comments?)

Er, I think this is illegal in unix-land.  You need at least one alpha
character first.  I think the syntax of usernames follows that of C
variable names.

>where it bombs, except in a yacc file "parse.y".  Now, yacc is as 
>foreign to me as Sanscrit and I think I would go insane trying to 
>learn it. 

Yacc uses regexes, iirc.  Wild guess, but I think it'd be as easy as
finding the regex for a username (hoping it's commented) and modify
that.

>Thanks - also any comments on how wonderful numeric logins can 
>be is also much appreciated - I hate the concept but the PHB's 
>seem to go starry eyed at the idea :/

PITA.  Do the users get email accounts?  mailing usernumbers looks ugly
and people don't like them, and maintaining an aliases file to match
pretty email addresses to usernumbers is a PITA, too.

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Re: [SLUG] Nagle

[Ken Yap]

>Alternatively, does anyone know how to disable Nagle in telnet?

man setsockopt
man tcp
/TCP_NODELAY


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Re: [SLUG] IPchains IP accounting question - Help! :)

[Herbert Xu]

Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not strictly true.  It is the case if you have a -j clause, otherwise it
> will continue down the chain.

Or if the -j clause refers to a user-defined chain that returns.
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Re: [SLUG] Network card problems Intel Etherexpress

[Ken Yap]

>2.  Intel etherexpress ISA.I have done 'softset' and it chose irq5
>and dma 300.  It was working fine in a win 95 (previously dual Linux).
>The test function on the card works fine.   The problem is that the
>eexpress module just wont start and does not give me a meaningful
>message.

Try eepro instead of eexpress.


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Re: [SLUG] Was network card - now sounds in X windows

[Heracles]

Ken Foskey wrote:


> 
> Another question,  is there a trick to getting the X-windows sounds going.
> I can play a sound  'play phone.wav' and I change the plugin in XMMS  to the
> OSS driver and I can play a sound there but I cannot hear the sounds from
> the windows actions.
> 
> Ken

Depends on the window manager. You usually have to set up your
sounds using the config tool for your window manager. However,
sometimes they are incorporated in the theme, as in enlightenment,
but you can change them to whatever you want.

Stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] PCMCIA network cards killing linux..

[Grahame Kelly]

On Mon, 06 Nov 2000, Alan Lee wrote:
> 
> Im not sure how to find the hardware address...

I would recommend that you look at the irq that your pcmcia card is
using. On my laptop I had similar problems on pcmcia - admittedly
with other function cards. Look at /proc/interrupts and /proc/devices
to see if there is any problem, and you should check the /var/log/messages
as well. 

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