[SLUG] Satellite Services

[Terry Collins]

I've searched the archives, but there is nothing there, so here goes.

Is anyone using linux with a satellite service?
I want to hear from people in Australia using an satellite service that
would be available in SE Australia (I'm actually just out of Sydney).

Particularly interested in something coming direct out of US. 
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Re: [SLUG] lilo problems

[Crossfire]

- Original Message -
From: Crossfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] lilo problems


> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 12:24 PM
> Subject: [SLUG] lilo problems
>
> I can see two solutions:
>
> 1) [more involved, less complicated, more likely to work out of the box]
[SNIP]
> 2) [quicker to implement, more hackish, more complicated, more likely to
> fsck up whilst getting it right]
[SNIP]
>
> Other good things:
> * You won't need to install LILO in the MBR [which is a bad idea IMO
> anyway].  Instead you can install it to the boot sector of that tiny /boot
> partition [if you made it a primary], and use the active flag to select
it.
> This way if you install a M$ OS again, you don't lose LILO when it
rebuilds
> the MBR.
>
> * if you do it right, then it'll work with any bootloader you wish to try
in
> the future.   (I used to use System Commander to Select between Win9x,
Linux
> [LILO] and OS/2)

Bleck - I'm having a slow day...

These two points only apply to solution 1, not to solution 2.
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Re: [SLUG] Mgetty

[Jeff Waugh]

> now the login hangs on windows and a terminal dial in doesn't even offer a
> prompt, just spewing out an occasional random character.
> 
> the log file has this to say: 
> 
> 12/12 15:45:49 yS1  init chat failed, exiting...: Interrupted system call
> 12/12 15:45:49 # failed in mg_init_data, dev=ttyS1, pid=500  


Odd! This happened to me today, albeit with the latest mgetty RPM.

Please yell if you work out the problem.

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] XML/XSLT

[Jeff Waugh]

> I have an application that uses libxml (aka libgnome-xml) to build an xml
> document using the dom model.  Anyone here know if there exists a library to
> do an xsl translation on this, or do I have to dump the model out as text
> first?


Check out Sablotron - it's C++, and I've only used it through other apps as
an add on module, but it may be appropriate.

There's a PHP module for it which may make wrapping it easier for you.

- Jeff


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[SLUG] Mgetty

[Marty]

hi

i just installed a RH 6.2 system and compiled mgetty as i have always done
for ppp dialin.

now the login hangs on windows and a terminal dial in doesn't even offer a
prompt, just spewing out an occasional random character.

the log file has this to say: 

12/12 15:45:49 yS1  init chat failed, exiting...: Interrupted system call
12/12 15:45:49 # failed in mg_init_data, dev=ttyS1, pid=500  

google/deja/docs search turned up zilch

later
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Re: [SLUG] The Changing Distribution Distribution

[Dave Fitch]

"Dan Treacy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I know I started off on Slackware and used that for a while and
> when RedHat 5.0 came out I thought it was almost a miracle :-) but things
> have progressed a fair way since then.

interesting you should say that.  I too started off on slackware.
I too gave RH 5.0 a go when it came out (then 5.1) but I was
less than impressed with RH.  It was all different to slackware.
I attributed that to the fact I was by then familiar with slackware
(and solaris).

But these days I'm still not really impressed by RH.
Having said that, my gateway machine is RH 5.1 (still) at least
for a couple more weeks until it becomes debian 2.2r2, and my
laptop is RH 6.2 (because it installed with no problems "out
the box" when corel, suse etc failed) although that may
shortly change when a new disk arrives for it and I see if
debian installs on it with no problems.

I think RH still have that perception of being "newbie-friendly"
though and I recommended RH 6.2 to a friend who wanted to try
linux (a complete computer newbie).  Unfortunately he has a
new laptop and Xwindows from the RH 6.2 CD wouldn't work, and
if it won't install and work "out the box" it's useless IMO.
So he's still stuck with lose98 until I try RH 7.0 and debian 2.2r2
on it.

Dave.


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[SLUG] Sendmail and relaying

[George Vieira]

Hi all,

again with this sendmail issue. I am trying to setup linux as a
firewall/mail server.
I want it to send and receive mail on behalf on a non internet aware server
but don't want it to deliver the emails locally when receiving them but to
forward them back to the internal mail server.

I thought domain rerouting would do the trick but then it gave some sites
and I mean _some_ sites RELAY DENIED but others were OK.. I found that
weird.

If I add the domain in sendmail.cw , it would deliver locally (internally)
but I need them relayed to the real internal server (storage)..

Can the people with the bat book be helpful to figure this out..


PS: Not on list..

thanks,
George.


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Re: [SLUG] lilo problems

[Crossfire]

- Original Message -
From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 12:24 PM
Subject: [SLUG] lilo problems


> I've got HPT366 support compiled into a 2.4 kernel, and I use append
> ide=reverse to get it to boot of the linux hd. This also has the effect
> of switching the controllers locations, so that /dev/hda is now the
> linux drive and /dev/hde the win2k. I've tried switching all the drives
> in fstab and lilo.conf and not using reverse, but lilo hangs at LI.

ide=reverse is not necessary - it only changes the order in which the linux
kernel sees the devices.  This is not needed except in a few rare
circumstances.  It holds no bearing on the boot process itself.

I can see two solutions:

1) [more involved, less complicated, more likely to work out of the box]

Use partition magic to free up a tiny 20MB slice on the Win2k disk (if you
haven't got a copy yet, buy or borrow one - either that, or nuke/rebuild a
partition to make the space).  Create an ext2 parition in that space, copy
/boot to it, and then mount it under /boot at boot time.  Make sure the
kernel images you wish to boot are in that directory.  Stop using
ide=reverse, and unbreak your fstab.  fix lilo.conf to reflect the new
location of / and where the boot disk really is [/dev/hda].  Make sure you
have lba32 enabled too.  Run lilo -v, make sure everything is being found
correctly.

This should work a charm.

2) [quicker to implement, more hackish, more complicated, more likely to
fsck up whilst getting it right]

Alternatively, you can might be able to get away by overrideing what LILO
thinks the bios translation map should look like.

I'm assuming that /dev/hda and /dev/hde are the only devices visable to the
BIOS  [if you have other drives, then you'll need to work out what
device BIOS sees your linux disk as]

in which case, including

disk=/dev/hde
  bios = 0x80
disk=/dev/hda
  bios = 0x81

in lilo.conf [with ide=reverse still enabled] might fix your problem.


Why It Isn't Working:  [or (more correctly), why it shouldn't be working]

LILO uses BIOS calls to load kernels from disk.  the LILO installer
[/sbin/lilo] has troubles translating devices to bios device numbers under
certain circumstances.  Furhtermore, BIOS can only access the first 4 drives
in your system.  By placing /boot and lilo on your real first disk, and not
doing stupid things with IDE device reordering, LILO can map the BIOS id to
the device properly, and access the kernel stored on that disk.

Other good things:
* You won't need to install LILO in the MBR [which is a bad idea IMO
anyway].  Instead you can install it to the boot sector of that tiny /boot
partition [if you made it a primary], and use the active flag to select it.
This way if you install a M$ OS again, you don't lose LILO when it rebuilds
the MBR.

* if you do it right, then it'll work with any bootloader you wish to try in
the future.   (I used to use System Commander to Select between Win9x, Linux
[LILO] and OS/2)

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[SLUG] XML/XSLT

[Pete]

Hi,

I have an application that uses libxml (aka libgnome-xml) to build an xml
document using the dom model.  Anyone here know if there exists a library to
do an xsl translation on this, or do I have to dump the model out as text
first?

Pete



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Re: [SLUG] lilo problems

[Gareth Walters]

I hope this helps.

I had a similar problem once and this sequence if thing eventually fixed it
(it was on a SCSI system with an IDE drive and I was trying to boot from the
SCSI drive).

Make sure your BIOS is not trying to boot from the win2k drive first if
there is an option to set the boot device set it to look *only* at the drive
with LILO installed (later fiddle if you need to boot from CROM etc).(might
like to try with boot offboard chpsets first set as well  I can't remember
if this worked or not)

You also must have LILO in the MBR and uninstall it from any other
partitions (lilo -u)

As an emergency fix you might be able to make a LILO bootdisk this will
probably ket you boot (I was using this for a long time until I fixed the
problem).


---Gareth Walters


- Original Message -
From: "Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 12:24 PM
Subject: [SLUG] lilo problems
>
> My problem is that I cannot set up lilo to boot win2k. It sees windows
> in the opposite position to where it will be at boot, so either it
> installs it in the wrong place /dev/hde, or it produces a Fatal error,
> because it can't find anything bootable where i'm telling it Win2k is
> (which is where it /will/ be).




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Re: [SLUG] Looking for rpm V4

[Howard Lowndes]

I beleive the last version of rpm 3 will handle it.

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On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Ian Ward wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I cannot find a copy of rpm Version 4 (source or binary) that the  hasn't
> been built with rpm V4
>
> How do you upgrade from V3 to V4 if people build V4 rpms with V4 sheeesh!!
>
> anyone done this? I've looked in lots of places, but cannot get a hit on a
> howto
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: [SLUG] lilo problems

[Arunava Sen]

Martin wrote:

> I recently built a new box for an upgrade, and used a KT7 Abit
> Motherboard that has hardware support for raid via a second IDE
> controller, a Highpoint HPT366 (ATA100).

I have a KT7-raid as well. I can confirm that your (our) motherboard does
*not* have a HPT366 controller, but in fact, uses a HPT370 controller. That

might not help you with your lilo problem, but it might later cause
problems if your kernel doesnt support the HPT370.

Arun



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[SLUG] lilo problems

[Martin]

I'm hoping someone can help me with a lilo problem.

I recently built a new box for an upgrade, and used a KT7 Abit
Motherboard that has hardware support for raid via a second IDE
controller, a Highpoint HPT366 (ATA100). I have installed Linux on the
first raid controller (later to be raid0 on both raid controllers) as
master, and am keeping a Win2k setup on the first normal IDE controller
(ATA66) as master for the odd game and compatability. I have a CDROM on
the second normal controller as master, and so far, that is all the
devices on the two controllers.

I've got HPT366 support compiled into a 2.4 kernel, and I use append
ide=reverse to get it to boot of the linux hd. This also has the effect
of switching the controllers locations, so that /dev/hda is now the
linux drive and /dev/hde the win2k. I've tried switching all the drives
in fstab and lilo.conf and not using reverse, but lilo hangs at LI.

My problem is that I cannot set up lilo to boot win2k. It sees windows
in the opposite position to where it will be at boot, so either it
installs it in the wrong place /dev/hde, or it produces a Fatal error,
because it can't find anything bootable where i'm telling it Win2k is
(which is where it /will/ be).

I have tried using append ide=reverse for all images, which did not
work. I then hacked the source for lilo to remove the check for whether
the drive was bootable, which worked fine on running lilo, installing
both drives, but then hung at "L?" on boot.

Can anyone suggest any way that I can make this work. I've had a look at
Grub, which looks generally pretty cool, but I can't see much evidence
in the docs that it would solve my problem, or even that it could handle
the basic reversing. I'm just in the process of wading through the lilo
manual now, but I'd be really grateful for any tips.

cheers,

Martin Richards
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[SLUG] Relay Denied in Sendmail

[root]

Hey all,

I'm not on the list so please reply.

I have setup linux to accept mail for our domain and to then pass the mail to the 
internal server.
This all works as I've tested it by sending an email from outside. But some maillog 
entries keep
appearing about denying relay but look legit. Eg..

Dec 12 13:37:13 server sendmail[27538]: NAA27538: ruleset=check_rcpt, 
arg1=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[64.14.48.142], reject=550 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... Relaying denied

Sendmail has been set to accept emails for the domain and relay locally..

any ideas.

thanks,
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Re: [SLUG] The Changing Distribution Distribution

[Terry Collins]

Dan Treacy wrote:

...snip

> But one of the more interesting changes which could possibly be taken as a
> good thing for Linux is the questions that are being asked on the list, or
> more specifically about what distros etc.

1995+ small group, mostly skilled, Red Hat, Slackware, Yaddrissil (sp?),
debian, ??.

Suse made its first appearance in Oz about that time (raffle at SLUG),
but in german.

Yaddrissil seems to have disappeared over the horizon

1998 start of growth, brings a lot of newbies into SLUG - Redhat most
popular. RH does the work in making sure its brand is known to newbies,
i,e APC booklet, cover CDs.

Caldera in OZ doesn't have big dollars behind it, so its prescence is
low key, but getting onto APC #2 was probably a good move. Shame the
distro was so hard to customise.

Turbolinux provided the SLUG distro for PCIT 1999, but has put most
effort into China/Asia. John Terpstra departure overseas robbed TL of
much drive here in OZ (as it appears to me). TL may have just taken a
while to find its feet and decide what is was going to do, so it dabbled
in a bit of everything about that time, whereas now it is a bit more
focussed.

2000 Most SLUG members have a few years experience and may have become
fed up with the Red Hat upgrade treadmill and so give Debian ago, or are
just vocal about it.

My reason for trying Suse was that Len Chan was promoting it and a few
people I respected at Slug had said it was okay. My reason for sticking
with it is that Debian keeps failing to install itself so I can look at
it (perhaps on day). 


> 
> Comments? Rants? Flames??
> 
> This leads me to my suggestion. I get a warm fuzzy feeling when we have a
> ConfigFest since in some way it was mine (and Ken's I think) idea to take
> the InstallFest Idea further. So I'm at it again More Fests for everyone.

http://www.woa.com.au/linux/how-tos/festphilosophy.html for why.


Slugs active membership turns over because different people have
different needs/interests. In the early days it was a hacker/geek/keen
persons OS and apart from the usual crop of students, there were a
number of pioneer business people trying to use it in their business.

When the boom was on (PC IT99, APC books, cover CDs), most people were
newbies and a lot of Slug effort went into catering for those people.
Those people have matured a bit and newbies are a smaller proportion of
SLUG, so Slug is getting a bit more balance.


As well, peoples lifestyle change and their opportunites and freedom to
attend Slug activites have changed.


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Re: [SLUG] Looking for rpm V4

[tom burkart]

On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Ian Ward wrote:

> I cannot find a copy of rpm Version 4 (source or binary) that the  hasn't
> been built with rpm V4
www.rpm.org
You also need the db (??? - I don't remember) ver 3.  It will tell you
anyway...
There is a *.tgz somewhere on their site - I have a copy if you are really
stuck.

> How do you upgrade from V3 to V4 if people build V4 rpms with V4 sheeesh!!
Good one eh?

> anyone done this? I've looked in lots of places, but cannot get a hit on a
> howto
This stuff is too obvious for a howto :-)

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[SLUG] Looking for rpm V4

[Ian Ward]

Hi all,

I cannot find a copy of rpm Version 4 (source or binary) that the  hasn't
been built with rpm V4

How do you upgrade from V3 to V4 if people build V4 rpms with V4 sheeesh!!

anyone done this? I've looked in lots of places, but cannot get a hit on a
howto

Ian




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RE: [SLUG] The Changing Distribution Distribution

[Marc Lawrence]

> Dan Treacy has been highly edited and taken completely out
> context by myself and said:
> Please don't get me wrong a lot of what I'm saying
> is generalisation I realise Debian doesn't exclude newbies 
> anymore than RedHat or the other RPM based distros. But to a
> newbie perception is everything

Funny you should say. As a complete newbie to Linux (and
someone discouraged from "shelling out" from Universe to
Unix at work  - "A little knowledge..." and all that),
but one who was told by his boss "Yeah, whatever" when 
he asked if he could install Linux on one of the spare PC's 
at work "just to muck around with", I wasn't sure what to do. 
It was "perception" that had me buy (or rather, work) Redhat 
Linux 7 Deluxe Workstation, as it (Redhat) was suppose to be 
the most userfriendly for  newbies (just picked this idea up 
here and there around the web, on some of the many 
Linux-orinented sites around).

Purely perception, and I had to take make a choice sometime.

Someone tell me on done good, puleeeze.

As a longtime Windows-user of all flavours (I'm aware of the
silent "l" :-) ) I'm very much looking forward to the learning
curve.

I dare say, once some familiarity is reached, I'll be on
here asking questions like "so what's the difference
between [Distro x] and [Distro y]?".

Been enjoying everything so far though. Enlightening, and, I
predict, soon to be very helpful.

Cheers
Marc
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[SLUG] The Changing Distribution Distribution

[Dan Treacy]

It's funny how the worm turns. I've been loitering around SLUG for quite a
while now (not as long as some but still a while) and the group has gone
through a number of changes in both "personnel" and how it operates etc..
and tho I'm unable to get to the meetings I imagine this would be reflected
there too.

But one of the more interesting changes which could possibly be taken as a
good thing for Linux is the questions that are being asked on the list, or
more specifically about what distros etc.

Im not out to start any flame wars etc.. and I've used a large number of
distros myself (about the only mainstream one I haven't tried is Suse) but
when I first lobbed on the list talk was almost exclusively RedHat,
particularly from the "newbies" as was the general view of the linux
community back then. RedHat was for "learners" and Slackware/Debian/ was for those who were a bit more au fait with
things. I noticed during the interim period we had something of a surge in
the number of SuSe users which seems to be fairly stable and briefly there
was also a big run on TurboLinux (which strangely seems to have abated. I
thought TL was supposed to be pretty good??) but the largest change seems to
have come about recently (and who knows in a few months it might abate too
but somehow I doubt it.).

I'm not sure if it's come about due to a large number of the "core" (read
executive etc..) of the club being Debianites or whether 2.2 was a quantum
leap and apt-get has just bowled everyone over or if it's just a reflection
on the level of sophistication  and "expertise" amongst the Linux community
that now a large number of people of using (and seemingly every second
person is changing to) a distro that has long been considered the domain of
the more "hard-core" linux user. Maybe changes and things like apt-get have
moved Debian away from that position?? Maybe slackware is the home of the
true Linux masochist :-)  Please don't get me wrong a lot of what I'm saying
is generalisation I realise Debian doesn't exclude newbies anymore than
RedHat or the other RPM based distros. But to a newbie perception is
everything. Linux might seem hard and complex enough as it is and when you
start you want to start off so you make things as easy for yourself as
possible. I know I started off on Slackware and used that for a while and
when RedHat 5.0 came out I thought it was almost a miracle :-) but things
have progressed a fair way since then.

Comments? Rants? Flames??

This leads me to my suggestion. I get a warm fuzzy feeling when we have a
ConfigFest since in some way it was mine (and Ken's I think) idea to take
the InstallFest Idea further. So I'm at it again More Fests for everyone.
:-)  It may be time to bring about DistroFest. It can be as specific or
general as you like and as large all small as you like. Maybe one for
Debian/Corel etc.. then another for the RPM based distros. Hopefully not
rehashing the install and config fests. It would be a chance for people to
find out all the "hidden"  well hidden to newbies anyway little gems in each
distro and I know there are plenty. Things like how to find an RPM or how to
find a specific file and while RPM it's in. What the hell format is and
apt-get sources.list line in?? these are just a couple off the top of my
head some there is info on the web etc.. but other's there isn't. and I
knowat config fests and install fest and the like that the organisers dont
like to get too distro specific. I'd love to say I'd organise it but I'll be
doing well enough to find the time to attend it (a month ago I thought
things would change but it wasnt to be) and it may not come about esp. with
linux.conf.au on the horizon but I think it's something that's needed. YMMV.

Dan.





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[SLUG] Debian Potato upgrade procedure

[Matthew Dalton]

http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/potato/upgrade-i386/UPGRADING.html

Quite a detailed guite to upgrading any Debian version <= 2.1 to Potato
(2.2), and a few tidbits about composing sources.list lines for apt-get.

Worth reading if your a Debian-newbie, or even if you're not.


Matthew


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Re: [SLUG] debuild gcc error

[John Clarke]

On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 11:07:06AM +1100, Nick Croft wrote:

> It's strange that setup is in the make file in the original source package

Not really.  There have been a lot of changes to gcc in the last six
years, and obviously this is one area of difference.  gcc-2.5 or 2.6
would have been current when the package was written.

> I guess I have to modify the makefile.

Well you could grab the gcc 2.5 source and build that, but fixing the
makefile would probably be a better, and easier, solution ;-)


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Re: [SLUG] debuild gcc error

[Nick Croft]

Thanks John.
It's strange that setup is in the make file in the original source package
and in the recent deb trio. I guess I have to modify the makefile.
Thanks for your help.
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Re: [SLUG] Debian specific tutorial?

[Nick Croft]

Look at:
UPGRADING.html by J.A Bezemer.
  http://panic.et.tudelft.nl/~costar/potato/upgrade-i386/UPGRADING.html

Although it's about upgrading, it's also about using apt-get.
The man page is good. Print it.

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Re: [SLUG] debuild gcc error

[John Clarke]

On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:32:22AM +1100, Nick Croft wrote:

>   gcc etc etc ..  
> -c -o rules.o rules.c
>   gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations

You've left out an important part of the gcc command line.  You show
only a single source and object filename, but really you have more than
one, e.g.:

[johnc@dropbear ~/tmp]$ gcc -c file1.c -o file1.o -c file2.c -o file2.o
gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
[johnc@dropbear ~/tmp]$ gcc -v
Reading specs from /opt/gcc/lib/gcc-lib/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.95.2/specs
gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)

What you're trying to do is to compile more than one file in a single
command (which is OK on its own), but also specify the output
filename(s) for one or more of the compilations.  You can't do both.
Older versions of gcc used to silently fail to compile some of the
source files when you did this.

The solution is to either remove the object filenames from the command,
or split the compilations into separate commands, e.g:

[johnc@dropbear ~/tmp]$ rm *.o
[johnc@dropbear ~/tmp]$ gcc -c file1.c file2.c
[johnc@dropbear ~/tmp]$ ls -l *.o
-rw-rw-r--   1 johncjohnc1128 Dec 12 10:46 file1.o
-rw-rw-r--   1 johncjohnc1116 Dec 12 10:46 file2.o


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[SLUG] debuild gcc error

[Nick Croft]

Hi Sluggers,
I've been trying to build a modified xpat2 both the plain gcc way and also with 
``debuild''.
As the original source is about 6 years old the Makefile has problems with the 
locations of some of the deb setup.
So I am having a go at debuilding it, firstly the straight packages as got from the 
mirror, then when that works I'll try the modified version.

With debuild I get:


gcc etc etc ..  
  -c -o rules.o rules.c
gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
make[2]: *** [rules.o] Error 1.

Any ideas? If I modify any source the size will be different and debuild will object.

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] Distro for Sparc 10

[Crossfire]

- Original Message -
From: Crossfire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Michael Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Distro for Sparc 10


> I'd personally suggest using debian/sparc from slink [2.1] onwards.
> pre-slink is painful due to the various kernel and libc bugs present.

Erk, I was forgetting myself for a second there - you want potato [2.2]
onwards - slink had LOTS of issues on sparc32.

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[SLUG] Errors compiling Apache

[Howard Lowndes]

I am getting errors when I try to cobble Apache.

During the configuration generator stage the link loader appears to object
to this in the gcc arguments:

-Wl,'-rpath /usr/lib/mysql'

It comes back and says that '-path /usr/lib/mysql' is an unknown option.

Creating Configuration.apaci in src
cd ..; gcc  -DLINUX=2 -DMOD_SSL=207101 -DUSE_HSREGEX -DEAPI -DUSE_EXPAT
-I./lib/expat-lite `./apaci` -o helpers/dummy helpers/dummy.c
-Wl,'-rpath /usr/lib/mysql'  -lc-client -lgd -lpng -lz -lttf
-L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient -lldap -llber -L/usr/local/lib
   -lpam -lm -ldl -lcrypt  -lresolv  -lm -lcrypt -lndbm -ldb -lgdbm -ldl
/usr/bin/ld: unrecognized option `-path /usr/lib/mysql'

Has anyone come across this before, or better still, have a fix for it?

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Re: [SLUG] Distro for Sparc 10

[Crossfire]

- Original Message -
From: Michael Still <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 6:42 AM
Subject: [SLUG] Distro for Sparc 10


>
> Heya,
>
> without starting a distro war, what are people running on Sparcs out
> there? I have hasd some troubles with red hat running properly (it wont
> even install), so I am after a suggestion of something else.

Actually, I tend to run OpenBSD on sparcs... [please don't hit me!]

There have been a number of issues with the Sparc32 codebases - hopefully
Anton is still on the case :)

I'd personally suggest using debian/sparc from slink [2.1] onwards.
pre-slink is painful due to the various kernel and libc bugs present.

Redhat 5.x was also surprisingly stable on my ELC.

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Re: [SLUG] What am I doing wrong with pppd?

[Howard Lowndes]

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On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Ian Ward wrote:

> try setting the debug option in the connect script.

Done that.  That's how I saw what is going on.

>
> You might find the problem is timing.  Sometimes, even though the prompt has
> been output, the system is just not ready to strart accepting characters and
> it misses the first couple of characters.

I'm begining to think this is the case.

>
> If the error in the log file says something like "Is the line looped?" then
> this is probably the cause, you are sending LCP's at the login prompt and it
> is echoing them back

Yes, I am certainly getting that.

>
> when I configure chat scripts that must login I *always* put a small delay
> before entering data.
>
> ie:
> 'OK' 'ATDT333'
> 'CONNECT' ''
> 'ogin:' '\dusername'
> 'word:' '\dpassword'

It seems to do this bit OK, but I think I am being to quick between this
point and the "server" actually firing up pppd and being ready to receive
LCP packets.

I shall have to go back to the man page, I seem to recall an option to
force the "client" to wait for the peer to send a packet before I start
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[SLUG] Distro for Sparc 10

[Michael Still]

Heya,

without starting a distro war, what are people running on Sparcs out
there? I have hasd some troubles with red hat running properly (it wont
even install), so I am after a suggestion of something else.

Thanks,
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Re: [SLUG] What am I doing wrong with pppd?

[Ian Ward]

try setting the debug option in the connect script.

You might find the problem is timing.  Sometimes, even though the prompt has
been output, the system is just not ready to strart accepting characters and
it misses the first couple of characters.

If the error in the log file says something like "Is the line looped?" then
this is probably the cause, you are sending LCP's at the login prompt and it
is echoing them back

when I configure chat scripts that must login I *always* put a small delay
before entering data.

ie:
'OK' 'ATDT333'
'CONNECT' ''
'ogin:' '\dusername'
'word:' '\dpassword'


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From: "Howard Lowndes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mail List - SLUG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 9:10 PM
Subject: [SLUG] What am I doing wrong with pppd?


> I have a dialup connection between two sites which works fine using kppp
> with an interactive Login:/Password: authentication, but do you think I
> can get it running with either the ogin:/assword: in the connect script,
> or with chap authentication.
>
> All it does, is the "server" echos the "client's" LCP ConfReq packet and
> the "client" promptly ConfNak's it.  This happens 10 times and then it
> TermReq's with a Lookback error message.
>
> What this means is that the two ends are not even getting to the
> authentication stage before it times out.
>
> Might I have a timing problem here.  The "server" is a pretty slow old
> clunker.
>
> Any clues??
>
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Re: [SLUG] What am I doing wrong with pppd?

[Howard Lowndes]

Yes, I do, so that's not the problem. (8-(

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On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, tom burkart wrote:

> On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
>
> > All it does, is the "server" echos the "client's" LCP ConfReq packet and
> > the "client" promptly ConfNak's it.  This happens 10 times and then it
> > TermReq's with a Lookback error message.
> This is a good one...
>
> On the clientside for that line do you have "noauth" set?  Because
> otherwise the client asks the server to authenticate to it which obviously
> fails.  Great trap for the unweary.



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[SLUG] Debian specific tutorial?

[Arunava Sen]

Hi,

I have been using various rpm based distros (without naming names).
Frankly, I am sick to death of them. I wanna give debian a try but I
would like to have an idea of their package management stuff first. I've
looked through the user manuals listed in http://www.debian.org/doc/ddp
and none of them seem to have much info regarding the package management
(except for some pretty self-explanatory stuff on dpkg). Can anyone
please point me to a URL for a debian specific tutorial or even just an
info page which deals with stuff like "apt-get"?

Thanks in advance

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Re: JPEG to Movie? Re: [SLUG] Including date into filename as shelluse

[Rodos]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Terry Collins wrote:

> Can anyone recommend software to convert my jpegs to a movie?
> Mentioning animation on freshmeat brings up everything from screen
> savers, games and software to recreate Rex the Runt.

I have use mpeg_encode. I have a little perl script which generates the
param file based on the jpeg files available.

My param file is something like

PATTERN IB
OUTPUT movie.mpg
INPUT_DIR
INPUT
1.jpeg
2.jpeg
3.jpeg
END_INPUT
BASE_FILE_FORMAT JPG
GOP_SIZE 10
SLICES_PER_FRAME 1
PIXEL HALF
RANGE 2
INPUT_CONVERT *
PSEARCH_ALG LOGARITHMIC
BSEARCH_ALG CROSS2
IQSCALE 5
PQSCALE 5
BQSCALE 5
REFERENCE_FRAME DECODED
FORCE_ENCODE_LAST_FRAME
END_PARAM_FILE

You will have to play with the PATTERN and other options to get the style
and size of image you want.

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Re: [SLUG] VBA scripts on linux

[Dan Treacy]

> Hi,
> Is anyone aware of a way of running VBA scripts (the current version of
> VB) under linux.
> 
> 

In the tradition of Ken Yap

http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=2731&mode=classic

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Re: [SLUG] Little knowledge required about Dell

[tom burkart]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Craig Warner wrote:

> Very general question, does any one have experience setting up Dell
> notebooks, docking stations and external monitors. ComputerBank has been
> donated some of these units and I having a bit of fun getting the
> external monitor to work.
The trick with most external monitors/data projectors is that you plug the
laptop into the external device first BEFORE turning the laptop on.  After
that everything is usually sweet.

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Re: [SLUG] What am I doing wrong with pppd?

[tom burkart]

On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Howard Lowndes wrote:

> All it does, is the "server" echos the "client's" LCP ConfReq packet and
> the "client" promptly ConfNak's it.  This happens 10 times and then it
> TermReq's with a Lookback error message.
This is a good one...

On the clientside for that line do you have "noauth" set?  Because
otherwise the client asks the server to authenticate to it which obviously
fails.  Great trap for the unweary.

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JPEG to Movie? Re: [SLUG] Including date into filename as shell use

[Terry Collins]

John Clarke wrote:

> cp webcam3.jpeg  sproutcam`date +%m%d%H%M`.jpeg
> 
> Taking the date/time of your message as an example (18:27 11 December),
> you'll get `sproutcam12111827.jpeg' as the filename.

Yep, that was what I wanted, Thanks John & Crossfire
I now have a cron job capturing an image an hour.

Can anyone recommend software to convert my jpegs to a movie?
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Re: [SLUG] Buggy PHP Code Value not incrementing

[Peter]

Yes this will work for Oracle and Postgresql where sequences are used.
It won't work for SQL7, Mysql or Postgresql(using serial data type)
'cause in these cases the next id is automatically created on insert. 

Norman Widders wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, Peter wrote:
> 
> > This technique of using the db's auto increneting attribute works fine
> > unless you want the user to see the next id, invoice no, sample no etc
>   
> err no, the technique of using autoincrementing works just fine.
> do a select and use a temporary variable to hold the nextval before doing
> the insert using the tempvar.
> 
> select nextval('mytable_id_seq')
> 
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[SLUG] Little knowledge required about Dell

[Craig Warner]

Very general question, does any one have experience setting up Dell
notebooks, docking stations and external monitors. ComputerBank has been
donated some of these units and I having a bit of fun getting the
external monitor to work.
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[SLUG] What am I doing wrong with pppd?

[Howard Lowndes]

I have a dialup connection between two sites which works fine using kppp
with an interactive Login:/Password: authentication, but do you think I
can get it running with either the ogin:/assword: in the connect script,
or with chap authentication.

All it does, is the "server" echos the "client's" LCP ConfReq packet and
the "client" promptly ConfNak's it.  This happens 10 times and then it
TermReq's with a Lookback error message.

What this means is that the two ends are not even getting to the
authentication stage before it times out.

Might I have a timing problem here.  The "server" is a pretty slow old
clunker.

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Re: [SLUG] Including date into filename as shell use

[John Clarke]

On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 06:27:17PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:

> I want to use cron to periodically copy a file "webcam3.jpeg" to a
> filename based on the current day and time, but I'm unable to workout
> how to do this as a bash shell command.
> It will be something like
> 
> cp webcam3.jpeg  sproutcam + date '+%m%d%H%M' + .jpeg

Like this:

cp webcam3.jpeg  sproutcam`date +%m%d%H%M`.jpeg

Taking the date/time of your message as an example (18:27 11 December),
you'll get `sproutcam12111827.jpeg' as the filename.

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Re: [SLUG] Including date into filename as shell use

[enterfornone]

you will want ` around the date part i think

On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 06:27:39PM +1100, Terry Collins wrote:
> I want to use cron to periodically copy a file "webcam3.jpeg" to a
> filename based on the current day and time, but I'm unable to workout
> how to do this as a bash shell command.
> It will be something like
> 
> cp webcam3.jpeg  sproutcam + date '+%m%d%H%M' + .jpeg


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Re: [SLUG] PAM, LDAP.

[Mikolaj J. Habryn]

James Peter Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dec 11 15:33:37 beast ftpd[3647]: pam_ldap: error trying to bind as user
> "uid=james,ou=People,dc=beast,dc=com" (Invalid credentials)
> Dec 11 15:33:37 beast ftpd[3647]: FTP LOGIN FROM localhost.localdomain
> [127.0.0.1], james
> 
> now, it appears that uid=james... is an invalid login to ldap for whatever
> reason. However, I currently have defaultaccess as write, with no other
> access controls in slapd.conf. Furhtermore if I do
> 
> ldapsearch -v -W -x -b 'uid=james,ou=People,dc=beast,dc=com'
> '(objectclass=*)'
> 
> with absolutely any password it will retrieve the correct information
> (though I don't intend to keep 100% open access priveledges)

  Try using -D followed by the dn for binding. You'll almost certainly
find that it will fail. The defaultaccess isn't used if you try to
bind with invalid credentials, because the bind failed. The fact that
you don't actually /need/ to bind at all with your current config is a
totally separate issue.

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Re: [SLUG] Including date into filename as shell use

[Crossfire]

- Original Message - 
From: Terry Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Slug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 6:27 PM
Subject: [SLUG] Including date into filename as shell use


> I want to use cron to periodically copy a file "webcam3.jpeg" to a
> filename based on the current day and time, but I'm unable to workout
> how to do this as a bash shell command.
> It will be something like
> 
> cp webcam3.jpeg  sproutcam + date '+%m%d%H%M' + .jpeg

more like:

cp webcam3.jpeg sproutcam`date '+%m%d%H%M'`.jpg

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[SLUG] Including date into filename as shell use

[Terry Collins]

I want to use cron to periodically copy a file "webcam3.jpeg" to a
filename based on the current day and time, but I'm unable to workout
how to do this as a bash shell command.
It will be something like

cp webcam3.jpeg  sproutcam + date '+%m%d%H%M' + .jpeg



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