Re: [SLUG] redrock and monitoring files

[John Ferlito]

On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 04:43:58PM +1100, David Kempe wrote:
> Hey sluggers,
> two questions.
> Wondering if Redrock messagenet works well with linux. Is it compatible with
> qpage and has anyone got it working/and feedback? Does the Redrock software
> for linux work?

There dialin TAP gateway works fine with smsclient but you need
to specify the following settings in the conf file before it does.

SMS_login_sleep  = "1000"
SMS_init_login_sleep  = "1000"

SMS_tap_select = "PG1login"

There internet gateway works fine too I've got a perl script that I
wrote if you're interested.


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Re: [SLUG] 2.4 on a laptop

[Matthew Dalton]

Pete Black wrote:

> Debian's woody distribution is using a version of Modutils that doesn't satisfy
> 2.4.0 software prerequisites.

You need the version from unstable (2.3.23).

Note that since the introduction of package pools and the 'testing'
tree, unstable != woody. (rather, woody == testing)


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Re: [SLUG] 2.4 on a laptop

[Pete Black]

Figured it out, operator problem.

Debian's woody distribution is using a version of Modutils that doesn't satisfy
2.4.0 software prerequisites.

It can't see where the modules are kept for some reason, they are there but
in a layout different to the 2.2 series of kernels.

Regards,

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Re: [SLUG] 2.4 on a laptop

[Andrew Morton]

Pete Black wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> Just did the upgrade from 2.4.0-prerelease to 2.4.0, has anyone had
> troubles doing this and getting the modules to work. I have a feeling it could
> have been the way I installed the pcmcia modules.
> 

More info?

Was it broken in 2.4.0-prerelease as well, or is this specific
to 2.4.0-final?

There is still some breakage between 2.4 and pcmcia-cs.  The
kernel doesn't tell `cardmgr' which network interface is
associated with a NIC, and things get confused.


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[SLUG] redrock and monitoring files

[David Kempe]

Hey sluggers,
two questions.
Wondering if Redrock messagenet works well with linux. Is it compatible with
qpage and has anyone got it working/and feedback? Does the Redrock software
for linux work?
Just interested in intracompany messageing and some monitoring etc

Also,
is there a utility/script to monitor a file that is changing but is only one
line?
Like tail -f monitors a file that is appended, im after a util that monitors
a one line file. Its only a one line file, and its only a few words, kinda
like a cat -f or something. Does this exist?

Thanks,

dave

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[SLUG] 2.4 on a laptop

[Pete Black]

Hi Guys,

Just did the upgrade from 2.4.0-prerelease to 2.4.0, has anyone had
troubles doing this and getting the modules to work. I have a feeling it could
have been the way I installed the pcmcia modules.

I opted out of using the pcmcia modules in the kernel source tree.

Apart from some module problems, seems fine to me.

de Zwart.


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Re: [SLUG] re: iproute2

[J.]

On 04 Jan 2001 13:34:00 +1100, Michael wrote:
> my eth0 is 203.41.122.129
> 
> I was hoping to have eth0:0 203.41.122.130
> 
> And somehow tell the 192.168.1.x network to nat via .130 and not the .129, I
> been wading through iproute looking for a answer... but I am stuck :(

Off the top of my head,

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 192.168.1.0/24 -d ! 192.168.1.0/24 -j
SNAT --to-source 203.41.122.130

You're running a recent kernel, right?

m.


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Re: [SLUG] linux 2.4 is out

[Ho Ming Shun]

A long time ago (Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:14:15PM +1100), in a galaxy far far away, 
Marty wrote :
> ...apparently.
> 
> the press releases have gone out, not sure whether the ftp sites have it.
ftp.kernel.org was updated while I was browsing it looking for the new kernel.
> 
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/01/05/0049246&mode=nested
> 
> later
> marty
> 
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Fixed frequency monitor

[Andrew Morton]

I have a fixed frequency 20" HP monitor.  I think it's an A2088A.

Free to a good home.

It does 1152x908.  I got it working on a PC once.  I have the
cable.  I think it needs sync-on-green.  Useful URLs are

http://historia.et.tudelft.nl/~marcj/fixed_freq/
and http://www.diku.dk/users/pink/monitor.html

I'm in Wollongong.   First come, first serve.


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Re: [SLUG] SPAM

[Jon Biddell]

>We block: .jp, .kr and .ru

How ? By domain or by the character set they use ?

>Unfortunately some time things gets through. For every piece of spam
>you do see on the list we have zapped about 10 - 15 others during
>that month.

Ain't that always the way...



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[SLUG] linux 2.4 is out

[Marty]

...apparently.

the press releases have gone out, not sure whether the ftp sites have it.

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/01/05/0049246&mode=nested

later
marty



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Re: [SLUG] SPAM

[Jeff Waugh]

> do we?  I remember this being discussed a while ago and I thought
> the outcome was to block on the char set not block whole countries.


Tried, failed. :)

Well, at least a fair bit of Nippon-SPAM still came through.

Remember that we don't actually *block* anything, we moderate all the emails
that go through. And yes, there's a heck of a lot more not coming through
than you ever see on the list.

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] SPAM

[David_Fitch]

Anand wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:27:31PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
> > At 11:59 PM 2/01/01 +0900, you wrote:
> >
>$B!!FMA3$N%a!]%k$G<:Ni$$$?$7$^$9!#$"$J$?MM$K$H$C$FM-1W$J>pJs$N$40FFb$G$9!#(B
> > >$BFs=E$KFO$$$?$j!"ITI,MW$JJ}$O!"?=$7$o$1M-$j$^$;$s$,8f:o=|4j$$$^$9!#(B
> > 
> > Guys, I thought we were to filter this stuff - can we not just block 
> > anything that uszes iso-2022-jp character set ?
> 
> We block: .jp, .kr and .ru

do we?  I remember this being discussed a while ago and I thought
the outcome was to block on the char set not block whole countries.

Dave.




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Re: [SLUG] Fixed frequency monitor

[Mehmet Yousouf]

I've sent a request to cornerstone, thanks for the link. I just tried
getting it going using win2000, worse results than linux...

Regards, Mehmet

 On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, DaZZa wrote:

 
> Extremely unlikely. The Cornerstone web site has drivers for the IA2 for
> WindoZe 3.1, 95, NT 3.51/40. and OS/2 2.11 and 3.0, as well as BIOS
> updates. Gertting these things working under WindoZe is difficult at best.
> Getting them running under X is most likely impossible.
> 
> As far as I can tell, not even Metro-X supports this card, so I'm guessing
> you're shit out of luck.
> 
> DaZZa
> 
> P.S. Cornerstone is at http://www.bigmonitors.com - maybe you can send a
> product request and ask.
> 



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Re: [SLUG] Fixed frequency monitor

[Umar Goldeli]

I don't knwo about your monitor in particular, but I managed to get a
really old 19" Sun moniotr happening with X... fixed freq - not video card
(using standard VGA card)..

The trick is to pull it open and play with it until you get the hsync and
vsync right.. the larger monitors will usually work if your card is
driving at 1280x1024 and you fiddle enough (look at the specs of your
monitor to be sure)..

Mind you, it will *only* work when in graphics mode (i.e. X) .. whne
you're booting you'll just see fuzz. :)

//umar.


> 
> > I've been given a cornerstone 21/76 monitor and a graphics card to go with
> > it (an ImageAccel 2)... can I get it to work in X? best I could do is
> > unsupported vga - a bit of a waste. I suppose I could give it to the
> > kids to use on a winbox.. hope not  
> 
> Extremely unlikely. The Cornerstone web site has drivers for the IA2 for
> WindoZe 3.1, 95, NT 3.51/40. and OS/2 2.11 and 3.0, as well as BIOS
> updates. Gertting these things working under WindoZe is difficult at best.
> Getting them running under X is most likely impossible.
> 
> As far as I can tell, not even Metro-X supports this card, so I'm guessing
> you're shit out of luck.
> 
> DaZZa
> 
> P.S. Cornerstone is at http://www.bigmonitors.com - maybe you can send a
> product request and ask.



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Re: [SLUG] Fixed frequency monitor

[DaZZa]

On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Mehmet Yousouf wrote:

> I've been given a cornerstone 21/76 monitor and a graphics card to go with
> it (an ImageAccel 2)... can I get it to work in X? best I could do is
> unsupported vga - a bit of a waste. I suppose I could give it to the
> kids to use on a winbox.. hope not  

Extremely unlikely. The Cornerstone web site has drivers for the IA2 for
WindoZe 3.1, 95, NT 3.51/40. and OS/2 2.11 and 3.0, as well as BIOS
updates. Gertting these things working under WindoZe is difficult at best.
Getting them running under X is most likely impossible.

As far as I can tell, not even Metro-X supports this card, so I'm guessing
you're shit out of luck.

DaZZa

P.S. Cornerstone is at http://www.bigmonitors.com - maybe you can send a
product request and ask.



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[SLUG] Fixed frequency monitor

[Mehmet Yousouf]

I've been given a cornerstone 21/76 monitor and a graphics card to go with
it (an ImageAccel 2)... can I get it to work in X? best I could do is
unsupported vga - a bit of a waste. I suppose I could give it to the
kids to use on a winbox.. hope not  

Regards, Mehmet



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Re: [SLUG] SPAM

[Anand Kumria]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 07:27:31PM +1100, Jon Biddell wrote:
> At 11:59 PM 2/01/01 +0900, you wrote:
> >$B!!FMA3$N%a!]%k$G<:Ni$$$?$7$^$9!#$"$J$?MM$K$H$C$FM-1W$J>pJs$N$40FFb$G$9!#(B
> >$BFs=E$KFO$$$?$j!"ITI,MW$JJ}$O!"?=$7$o$1M-$j$^$;$s$,8f:o=|4j$$$^$9!#(B
> 
> Guys, I thought we were to filter this stuff - can we not just block 
> anything that uszes iso-2022-jp character set ?
> 

We block: .jp, .kr and .ru

Unfortunately some time things gets through. For every piece of spam
you do see on the list we have zapped about 10 - 15 others during
that month.

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Re: [SLUG] re: iproute2

[Thom May]

The best one I've found is the 2.4 Advanced Routing HOWTO, which covers iproute2
as well as iptables etc
-Thom, looking at traffic shaping and cacking himself
* Jeff Waugh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on Fri Jan 05, 2001 at 01:29:22AM +1100:
> 
> 
> > Has anyone played with iproute2 in regards to playing with NAT
> > 
> > Any clues?
> 
> 
> In fact, if anyone has pointers to good docs for iproute, do tell! It's
> very, very minimally documented.
> 
> - Jeff
> 
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Re: [SLUG] re: iproute2

[Michael]

my eth0 is 203.41.122.129

I was hoping to have eth0:0 203.41.122.130

And somehow tell the 192.168.1.x network to nat via .130 and not the .129, I
been wading through iproute looking for a answer... but I am stuck :(

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, 5 January 2001 1:27
Subject: Re: [SLUG] re: iproute2


>
>
>> Has anyone played with iproute2 in regards to playing with NAT
>>
>> Any clues?
>
>
>In fact, if anyone has pointers to good docs for iproute, do tell! It's
>very, very minimally documented.
>
>- Jeff
>
>
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>   way that it was very light. I think lightness has to come from a very
>  deep place if it's true lightness." - Alicia Silverstone
>
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Re: [SLUG] re: iproute2

[Michael]

How about?

http://www.linuxgrill.com/iproute2.doc.html

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, 5 January 2001 1:27
Subject: Re: [SLUG] re: iproute2


>
>
>> Has anyone played with iproute2 in regards to playing with NAT
>>
>> Any clues?
>
>
>In fact, if anyone has pointers to good docs for iproute, do tell! It's
>very, very minimally documented.
>
>- Jeff
>
>
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Re: [SLUG] re: iproute2

[Jeff Waugh]

> Has anyone played with iproute2 in regards to playing with NAT
> 
> Any clues?


In fact, if anyone has pointers to good docs for iproute, do tell! It's
very, very minimally documented.

- Jeff


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[SLUG] re: iproute2

[Michael]

Has anyone played with iproute2 in regards to playing with NAT

I am attempting to tell my linux box that I want my 192.168.1.x addresses to
be nat'd as another ip bound to my box, rather then the default eth0 ip. But
I don't think I am doing something right.

Any clues?

Thanks
Michael

PS. I hope I make sense... oh well its late... time for sleep



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Re: [SLUG] debian apt - what's available?

[Dave Fitch]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:00:53AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > so I went back and picked "simple".
> > The result was too simple!
> > I was missing most of what I consider to be a complete
> > system.
> 
> For example?

rlogin, rsh, etc and maybe telnet? (can't remember now whether
that was there or whether it was the first thing I installed
so I could remote login from my Sun rather than sit on the
floor squinting at the tiny slowly dying monitor on the floor)

popd (although I did get imapd so maybe that was me
picking the wrong option on install)
dos2unix and unix2dos
elm (i thought elm was a standard basic mail program)
simple commands like "file"
other things like tcpdump

> My usual advice is to install very little initially, and apt-get as
> required. It's easy, straight-forward, and minimal. I'm a BIG fan of
> minimal.

yep I'd agree (in hindsight), given how easy apt-get'ing is
 
> > There's a few oddities though, eg. I got exim as a MTA.
> > I couldn't work out how to configure it properly (well
> > I can't get it going from fiddling with the conf file
> > and reading the man page, so I gave up).
> 
> The exim config is reasonably good, however it's very badly worded and quite
> unclear to new users.
> 
> > So I installed postfix instead but can't remove exim without also removing
> > leafnode and other stuff I want to keep.
> 
> Debian does all the work for you. :) If you apt-get install postfix, Debian
> will realise that you're installing another MTA, remove exim, and leave your
> other packages (at least the ones relying on the presence of an MTA) on
> there.

ah-ha yes it did that but left remanents of exim behind.
eg. cron kept trying to fire exim off every few minutes, the
startup script was still in /etc/init.d, conf file still in /etc,
exim dir still in /var/log, spool dirs still there etc etc.
All should have been removed.

Now onto postfix, I thought it was going ok but just now when
I looked through the logs it sent a mail off to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that was obviously supposed to go to me (ie. root@spiral).
I have told postfix:
myhostname = spiral.smartchat.net.au
myorigin = smartchat.net.au
masquerade_domains = smartchat.net.au
and the rest default.
It's probably the same reason I send mail to "fred" and it
goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of local user fred.
Ie. I've lost the ability to send local email.

I added the masq line cos otherwise outgoing emails appear to
come from spiral.smartchat.net.au which (a) isn't right and
(b) causes mail bounces from places that check for valid domains.

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Re: [SLUG] debian apt - what's available?

[Jeff Waugh]

> rlogin, rsh, etc and maybe telnet?


Please don't use profane language on-list, David. ;)


> ah-ha yes it did that but left remanents of exim behind.
> eg. cron kept trying to fire exim off every few minutes, the
> startup script was still in /etc/init.d, conf file still in /etc,
> exim dir still in /var/log, spool dirs still there etc etc.
> All should have been removed.


See http://slug.org.au/lists/archives/slug/2000/December/msg00864.html for
the reasons why this doesn't happen, and why it makes absolute sense.


> Now onto postfix, I thought it was going ok but just now when
> I looked through the logs it sent a mail off to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> that was obviously supposed to go to me (ie. root@spiral).


You'll have to add local addresses (check the format as described in the
handily commented out manpage within the Debian version of the virtuals
file) to /etc/postfix/virtual and run 'postmap /etc/postfix/virtual' and
restart postfix. For instance:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   @localhost

This will make sure that any email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be
delivered locally. Post fix absolutely rocks, but you really have to read
the anatomy document on postfix.org (click the little flowcharty looking
image up the top left).


Hope you're enjoying them. :)

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Re: [SLUG] debian apt - what's available?

[Dave Fitch]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 01:00:53AM +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > so I went back and picked "simple".
> > The result was too simple!
> > I was missing most of what I consider to be a complete
> > system.
> 
> For example?

rlogin, rsh, etc and maybe telnet? (can't remember now whether
that was there or whether it was the first thing I installed
so I could remote login from my Sun rather than sit on the
floor squinting at the tiny slowly dying monitor on the floor)

popd (although I did get imapd so maybe that was me
picking the wrong option on install)
dos2unix and unix2dos
elm (i thought elm was a standard basic mail program)
simple commands like "file"
other things like tcpdump

> My usual advice is to install very little initially, and apt-get as
> required. It's easy, straight-forward, and minimal. I'm a BIG fan of
> minimal.

yep I'd agree (in hindsight), given how easy apt-get'ing is
 
> > There's a few oddities though, eg. I got exim as a MTA.
> > I couldn't work out how to configure it properly (well
> > I can't get it going from fiddling with the conf file
> > and reading the man page, so I gave up).
> 
> The exim config is reasonably good, however it's very badly worded and quite
> unclear to new users.
> 
> > So I installed postfix instead but can't remove exim without also removing
> > leafnode and other stuff I want to keep.
> 
> Debian does all the work for you. :) If you apt-get install postfix, Debian
> will realise that you're installing another MTA, remove exim, and leave your
> other packages (at least the ones relying on the presence of an MTA) on
> there.

ah-ha yes it did that but left remanents of exim behind.
eg. cron kept trying to fire exim off every few minutes, the
startup script was still in /etc/init.d, conf file still in /etc,
exim dir still in /var/log, spool dirs still there etc etc.
All should have been removed.

Now onto postfix, I thought it was going ok but just now when
I looked through the logs it sent a mail off to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
that was obviously supposed to go to me (ie. root@spiral).
I have told postfix:
myhostname = spiral.smartchat.net.au
myorigin = smartchat.net.au
masquerade_domains = smartchat.net.au
and the rest default.
It's probably the same reason I send mail to "fred" and it
goes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of local user fred.
Ie. I've lost the ability to send local email.

I added the masq line cos otherwise outgoing emails appear to
come from spiral.smartchat.net.au which (a) isn't right and
(b) causes mail bounces from places that check for valid domains.

Dave.


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[SLUG] Licq wont connect to server

[Arunava Sen]

Hello,

All of a sudden I cant get on ICQ using Licq anymore. i get the
following message in the "network window"

21:48:03: [UDP] Requesting logon (#17820)...
21:48:03: [UDP] Resolving icq.mirabilis.com...
21:48:03: [UDP] ICQ server found at 205.188.153.104:4000.
21:48:03: [UDP] Creating local server.
21:48:03: [UDP] Opening socket to server.
21:48:03: [UDP] Ack (#17820).

and it just stays like that forever. Strange thing is that icq on my
windows laptop can connect just fine. Just wondering if licq is bitching
or if the bastards at mirabilis have changed the server protocol now or
something. Can anyone connect to icq at this time?

Thanks

Arun



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Re: [SLUG] OT - Clueless Telstra

[Jon Biddell]

At 09:04 PM 4/01/01 +1100, tom burkart wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Jan 2001, Jon Biddell wrote:
>
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >or call FREECALL™ 1800 XXX XXX*
>On my mobile "X" stands for "9" :-)

Thanks guys - tried 9 already - Telstra have NO IDEA what the number should 
be !!

As for routing loops... don't get me started...



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Re: [SLUG] OT - Clueless Telstra

[Jeff Waugh]

> Perhaps a SLUGger can advise me how I can dial this number as supplied by 
> TELSTRA (the clueless cable company) in my Online Bill Notification (the 
> site for which is NOT Linux friendly !!)
>
> >or call FREECALL™ 1800 XXX XXX*


In any other case, I'd say "1800 999 999", but I don't think this is what
Telstra means. Go easy on them, they have *so* much work to do just to come
across as hopeless. ;)

Don't get me started on wannabes though - you ever enjoyed seeing a routing
loop stay broken for longer than a few hours, and then be told that
"external consultants have been brought in to deal with the problem"?

- Jeff (stunningly off-topic, my apologies)


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[SLUG] OT - Clueless Telstra

[Jon Biddell]

Perhaps a SLUGger can advise me how I can dial this number as supplied by 
TELSTRA (the clueless cable company) in my Online Bill Notification (the 
site for which is NOT Linux friendly !!)

Telstra Online Bill Assistance
>For assistance in using your Online Bill service, email 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>or call FREECALL™ 1800 XXX XXX*
>
>™ Trade mark in Australia of Telstra Corporation Limited, ABN 33 051 775 556
>*A free call from fixed phones.





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Re: [SLUG] Basic ftp script question

[Peter Hardy]

On Thu, Jan 04, 2001 at 05:23:58PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was thinking to create a ftp script to transfer them but I don't know how
> to supply the passord for basic ftp ? I can do it for ncftp using
> the ftp://username:password@host syntax but I would prefer to use basic
> ftp on windoze and push the logs to the other machine.
I use the following piece of bash script to upload my webcam images:

uploadpic() {
ftp -v -i -n $host