Re: [SLUG] Potato - Woody

2001-06-05 Thread Tom Massey

Hi, just a quick thank you for all the useful info I got about this. Apt-get is indeed 
as fun to play with as people have said. :-)

Thanks, Tom

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[SLUG] File start-up problem

2001-06-05 Thread Debian User Adam Bogacki,,,

Hi,

when trying to install WordPerfect 8 from PCactive's December 2000 CD I 
mounted it (via Gnome), copied it to /usr where I had most diskspace, cd 
to /usr and . could not open the program.

   ls -l WORDPERF
gave me
-rwx--x--x 1 root root 2864128 0 Jun 
5 14.28 WORDPERF

Trying
   chmod ug+rwx WORDPERF

gave me
 -rwxrwx-x  1 root root 2864128 0 
Jun 5 14:28 WORDPERF

but it still would not open when typing WORDPERF as either root/usr or 
adam/usr

What am I missing ? It must be obvious 

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Re: [SLUG] File start-up problem

2001-06-05 Thread Jamie Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Debian User Adam Bogacki,,, said:
when trying to install WordPerfect 8 from PCactive's December 2000 CD I 
mounted it (via Gnome), copied it to /usr where I had most diskspace, cd 
to /usr and . could not open the program.

type 'mount', I'll bet that your cdrom has been mounted with the noexec
option (as is the default on Debian).

Unmount, then in your shell:  mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom
This'll mount and ignore the settings in /etc/fstab

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[SLUG] kdelibs in sid currently broken, 2.4.5?

2001-06-05 Thread Andre Pang

hey guys,

just thought i'd mention that if you're running sid, updating to
kdelibs3 at the moment isn't the best idea.  kdeinit is barfing
and chewing up all memory before being killed by the OOM killer
(if you're lucky). i dunno if this is related to kdeinit itself,
the other KDE libraries, libc++, or libqt2, or something else. 
but stay away from it if you need a working Konquerer.

as always, Your Kilomet^WMileage May Vary.

on another note, has anybody else found that 2.4.5 is playing
weird memory games with the swapfile and is generally pretty
unstable?  i managed to completely freeze it just by running
'Eterm -fn 9x15' (which is actually an invalid parameter now.)


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Re: [SLUG] kdelibs in sid currently broken, 2.4.5?

2001-06-05 Thread getadog

On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 06:28:45PM +1000, Andre Pang wrote:
 on another note, has anybody else found that 2.4.5 is playing
 weird memory games with the swapfile and is generally pretty
 unstable?  i managed to completely freeze it just by running
 'Eterm -fn 9x15' (which is actually an invalid parameter now.)

Do you have a swap size 2 times your ram?

This is a general recommendation, but I believe its
a requirement at the moment with 2.4 kernels.
On the other hand, my swap is half my ram and everything
works OK, but I'm hardly using any swap.

Check the linux-kernel archives:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelr=1w=2
Theres lots of talk about how swap has changed in 2.4.


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Re: [SLUG] Proxy blues

2001-06-05 Thread Rick Welykochy

Laurie Savage wrote:
 
 I cannot get through the Dept of Education Proxy server with Lynx or
 Konqueror. The general setting given a school's ID is
 
 http://pac.xxx.yyy.zzz.au/schools/schoolid-xyzetc.pac

My guess: Konqueror (and Lynx) do not accept .pac files.
If you can find out the proxy address and port, you can tell
Konqueror about it, under Options | Config Browser | Proxy.


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Re: [SLUG] Proxy blues

2001-06-05 Thread Paul Robinson



On Tuesday 05 June 2001 19:34, Rick Welykochy mumbled something about:
 Laurie Savage wrote:
  I cannot get through the Dept of Education Proxy server with Lynx or
  Konqueror. The general setting given a school's ID is
 
  http://pac.xxx.yyy.zzz.au/schools/schoolid-xyzetc.pac

 My guess: Konqueror (and Lynx) do not accept .pac files.
 If you can find out the proxy address and port, you can tell
 Konqueror about it, under Options | Config Browser | Proxy.


from a shell try typing the following :

telnet to pac.xxx.yyy.zzz.au 80
GET /schools/schoolid-xyzetc.pac

This should return the content of the pac file. look for the PROXY 
www.xxx.yyy.zzz:1234 DIRECT line and that is the proxy address and port number

Hope this helps

Paul



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Re: [SLUG] kdelibs in sid currently broken, 2.4.5?

2001-06-05 Thread Andre Pang

On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 07:42:50PM +1000, getadog wrote:

 Do you have a swap size 2 times your ram?

nope.

i found this proposition a bit ridiculous to begin with,
although maybe now i'll have my head bitten off for it :).

i run a reasonably basic system, and before installing Debian on
my laptop, it had 128mb of RAM and _no_ swap, which was more than
enough to accommodate everything.  performance in 2.4.5 was so
bizarre that i've gone back to 2.4.2 for the time being -- mind
you, this is 2.4.5 with a few other patches applied (like
Netraverse's win4lin patches), but i don't think they'd be so
drastic as to affect the performance of the VM system.

and since i'm running a laptop, there is _no_ way i'm going to
dedicate 512MB of precious laptop HD space for a swapfile,
especially since i've run on 128MB of RAM with no swap for  6
months with no problem.


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Re: [SLUG] WFWG clients - How

2001-06-05 Thread Heracles

Terry Collins wrote:
 
 I am looking to retire my Novell 4.11 server but still need to provide
 file and print services to two WFWG clients, which will be naturally off
 a linux server.
 
 Is anyone still doing this and how?

I have recently retired a Nivell 3.12 server and set up a simple RedHat
server in its place. It serves six different CDs to an array of WFWG
3.11, win95, win98SE, NT4 and win2k machines. The printers have been
distributed about the network and all works well under samba. I am a
beginner when it comes to samba (and NT4 and win2k) and I found it easy.
Just follow the docs.

Stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] WFWG clients - How

2001-06-05 Thread Howard Lowndes

On a slight deviation from this track.  Are any of your printers network
printers as opposed to LPT1 printers?  I have a network printer which the
Linux boxes will print to fine and which is being shared out by Samba on a
Linux box to my Winboxes, but the Winboxes won't print to the share, they
come back with an unknown error.  Looking at tcpdumps of the traffic,
the nearest I can determine is that the Winbox attempting to send to the
printer prompts the Linux box to do the equivalent of an lpq to the
printer, which comes back with No entries.  The No entries ends up as
no entries in the comment field of the printer definition on the Winbox
(note the case change of the first character).  Wierd.

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On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Heracles wrote:

 Terry Collins wrote:
  
  I am looking to retire my Novell 4.11 server but still need to provide
  file and print services to two WFWG clients, which will be naturally off
  a linux server.
  
  Is anyone still doing this and how?
 
 I have recently retired a Nivell 3.12 server and set up a simple RedHat
 server in its place. It serves six different CDs to an array of WFWG
 3.11, win95, win98SE, NT4 and win2k machines. The printers have been
 distributed about the network and all works well under samba. I am a
 beginner when it comes to samba (and NT4 and win2k) and I found it easy.
 Just follow the docs.
 
 Stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] Where to get Agenda PDAs ?

2001-06-05 Thread Catie Flick

On  5 Jun, Jon Biddell wrote:

 Not wishing to piss on Anthony's parade, but I had a look at the Agenda 
 developers site today, and they have a special white  blue model with 16Mb 
 RAM, 8Mb flash, and a few utilities that you can get for $179USD.
 
 Problem is many of the reviews I was able to find on this say that the 
 company has serious problems, should not have released the PDA so soon, etc. 
 etc.
 
 Maybe Catie Flick can shed some light on what the beast is actually like , 
 being the only person in The Known Universe (i.e. Sydney) that has one that I 
 am aware of.

Yup, if you want to pop along to my site at
http://liedra.net/programming/agenda.php the slides are linked from
there. If you, or anyone else, has any more questions about the talk,
please feel free to email me (at this address) or if they think everyone
else here would like to know more, to the slug list.

I'll answer them to the best of my knowledge, but remember that I'm in
no way affiliated with Agenda Computing :) so I don't know why their
phones aren't responding, I don't know much about what sorts of payments
they accept, etc.

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Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Terry Collins

DaZZa wrote:

 It's specifically a Linux job, and the money offered isn't _too_ bad.
 
 Anyone who wants to bitch about it can bite me - flames will go to
 /dev/null. That includes you, Terry.

Well,  I'm posting the reasons why I think it is inappropriate for
posting to Slug.

1 - It doesn't come from a Slugger. What has Parker Bridge ever done for
Slug?


2 - We can not be certain the the job really exists 

Agencies often post non-existant jobs to collect resumes or oter
reasons.

This advert could be being used to cut someone's salary/conditions -
employee asks for raise - boss asks agency to find if soneone will take
position at lower wage - someone expresses interest - agency says
plenty of people for that position. Boss says tough, no raise and we
cut conditions. Agencies admit that this is a regular occurrence.


3 - If you received it in a daily bundle, then just tell people how to
subscribe to that daily bundle and those who are not interested in
jobs do not have to receive it.

You know that saying; give someone fish and you create dependancy. Show
them how to fish and you give them food for life. Well teaching people
how to fish is the Linux way.


4. - We would be inundated with job postings. Jobnet has over 10
permanent Linux positions and at least one contract linux position
today. We don't want that sort of stuff posted all the time


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Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 09:42:31AM +1000, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

[snip]

 The info is in the ad. Note that seek.com.au requires frames, so viewing
 it through lynx won't work - which sucks a bit, but such is life.

Arent frames part of the HTML standard?

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Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 10:41:36AM +1000, DaZZa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:

[snip]

 Not part of HTML 1.0 AFAIK, which is all my version of lynx supports.

I have to say (without wanting to start a Frame War) that frames greatly
reduce the amount of traffic generated. If you have three frames:

 * main menu
 * sub menu
 * document

then when selecting a link only the document needs to be updated,
speeding up loading and decreasing the traffic generated.

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Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread enterfornone

 I have to say (without wanting to start a Frame War) that frames greatly
 reduce the amount of traffic generated. If you have three frames:

  * main menu
  * sub menu
  * document

 then when selecting a link only the document needs to be updated,
 speeding up loading and decreasing the traffic generated.

HTML really needs an include tag (that is parsed on the client side, so
static include files can be cached).

That way you could have the benifits of frames without it looking butt ugly.


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Re: [SLUG] USB Modems.

2001-06-05 Thread Dean Hamstead

Assuming that your modem is supported then you will most likely need to
update your kernel. Id be suprised if updated kernels arent available as
RPMS but compiling is easy enough even for a newbie.

Dean

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Greetings.
 
 I am quite new to this group but I am committed to operating in a Microsoft free 
environment. I just have a few problems.
 
 This is my system: AMD 333mhz, 256Mb ram, 2 X 13gig hdd, CDROM, CDRW, USB modem, USB 
FM radio, PCI TV  Capture card, Cordless mouse, USB web cam, HP Jornada 420 PDA, 
TNT2 pro, Creative 64 sound, 100+ Base eathernet card, 8 port 100+ hub, USB hub, 100 
Mb zip drive, TD800 Tape drive, and a comms connection to my 600va UPS. I think that 
I covered it all.
 
 Can I some how use my USB devices through Linux (Red Hat 7.1?) I really need my 
modem and my zip drive working. I did find out how to get the zip drive working...but 
misplaced the printout.
 
 Can anyone please help me to get my USB modem working. It's an Acer 56 USB.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: [SLUG] USB Modems.

2001-06-05 Thread Peter Hardy

...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I am quite new to this group but I am committed to operating in a Microsoft free 
environment. I just have a few problems.

An admirable goal, indeed.

beefy system spec snipped 

 Can I some how use my USB devices through Linux (Red Hat 7.1?) I really need my 
modem and my zip drive working. I did find out how to get the zip drive working...but 
misplaced the printout.
Yes!  And you'll probably find it works slightly better than under Windows.
http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2000/December/msg00119.html

Make sure you're using the latest 2.4 kernel, and the rest is
straightforward.  www.linux-usb.org is your friend.

 Can anyone please help me to get my USB modem working. It's an Acer 56 USB.
You are new, aren't you? :-)  There was a thread on USB modems just a few
days ago.
However, The Acer may be a little more difficult.  The best I've been able
to get from google, is that this time last year, it was correctly
identified, but although the chipset manufacturor claims linux support, it
does not actually function yet.

HTH,
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Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread james

  Not part of HTML 1.0 AFAIK, 

AFAIK sounds slightly rude ;) What is it?

 As always, with anything Linux, YMMV.

Yes Mum, More Vanilla? Someone help me out here?

Thanks! (TFTAH). Also, IRAYH, and TARAIJMTU.
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RE: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Sean Carmody

 AFAIK sounds slightly rude ;) What is it?

as far as i know

  As always, with anything Linux, YMMV.

your mileage may vary
 
 Thanks! (TFTAH). Also, IRAYH, and TARAIJMTU.

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Re: [SLUG] Calling all Regex champions

2001-06-05 Thread Matthew Dalton

Steven downing wrote:
 Having moved all my mp3s, I need to update my XMMS playlists,
 BUT there are a couple which have been updated already.
 So, I want to match /usr/local/mp3/whatever
 BUT NOT /usr/local/mp3/mp3/whatever
 
 Yes, I've moved them all from /usr/local/mp3 to
 /usr/local/mp3/mp3 so I need to add that extra directory
 into the path in all the playlist files.

cat playlist.old | sed -e 's#local/mp3/mp3#local/mp3#' -e
's#local/mp3#local/mp3/mp3#'  playlist.new

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Re: [SLUG] Proxy blues

2001-06-05 Thread Mike Lake

On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 06:51:43PM +1000, Laurie Savage wrote:
 I cannot get through the Dept of Education Proxy server with Lynx or 
 Konqueror. The general setting given a school's ID is
 http://pac.xxx.yyy.zzz.au/schools/schoolid-xyzetc.pac
 Netscape under Linux can do this. Has anybody any ideas about getting 
 through a PAC setup. The Sydney admin people don't know/don't 
 care - I'm not using 

I did a search on google for schools 'pac file' and there are lots of
links to follow from Linux In Australian Scools list. 
One link, for Qld schools may help:
http://www.telstra-ccc.qld.schools.net.au/autoproxy/autoproxy.html
Lots of others too.

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Re: [SLUG] OT - Job advertisement

2001-06-05 Thread Jobst Schmalenbach

On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 01:26:59PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   Not part of HTML 1.0 AFAIK, 
 
 AFAIK sounds slightly rude ;) What is it?
 
  As always, with anything Linux, YMMV.
 
 Yes Mum, More Vanilla? Someone help me out here?
 

either

  http://www.acronymfinder.com/

or

  google.com and search for it.


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