Re: [SLUG] Apache: why doesn't allow from localhost work ?
On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 08:10:01PM +1000, getadog wrote: On Wed, Jun 27, 2001 at 06:56:07PM +1000, Mike Lake wrote: So if I was using 'localhost' which is refering to a URL that the request comes from then it would use ServerName:Port ie b4114:80 ? . Im a little confused between the server name and hostname. If you set a ServerName and UseCanonicalName On apache will redirect your browser to what ever you set your ServerName to. If you don't set a ServerName and set UseCanonicalName On apache will redirect your browser to `hostname -f`. If you set UseCanonicalName Off (Commenting it out turned it on for me), apache won't redirect you at all. I think its easier to see whats happening with wget -S localhost/~mikel, getadog suggested I try different combinations to see what happens - an excellent way to learn :-) Basically I tried all the combinations in httpd.conf with ServerName/UseCanonical and used wget to see the what reponded. Put the output to a file and pretty printed and read it on the train. Yeah Fun :-) I wont put the results here as its t long. Also used ping and the browser to try to resolve localhost and b4114a while doing a tcpdump -i lo and saved the output for each case. Have learnt a lot about how to use tcpdump and ping and wget to see whats being resolved to where and by whom. Your source address changes depending on which interface you are pinging. Can see that sort of but still have to try and work out what I should have for that setting. What I think was happening was you were pointing your browser to http://localhost/~mikel, and apache was redirecting it to http://mycomputername/~mikel, so when your browser tried to go to http://mycomputername/~mikel, it used as its soucre ip address mycomputername, which was denied. Clear as mud? :) yep. I must say Im still a little confused but will have a play around more. Just to fill you in on why I am doing this; I wrote a kinetics experiment last year for the UTS Chemisty Dept which does a monte carlo simulation of some reactions for the students to play with. Gets 8 students out of the lab for 3 hours / week. It all ran from my RedHat Linux box with 32Meg RAM and was used by 8 students, accessing it via Netscape from Windows PC's. This year it will run again but I am changing it so it can be more easily installed and run from any server. I had lots of hard coded server specific stuff in it. It will now run from a Debian distro which put Apache things in different places to RedHat. My chnages will make it easier for others to install it and for me to maintain it. Mike -- Do you think that when they asked George Washington for ID that he just whipped out a quarter? -- Steven Wright Michael Lake, University of Technology, Sydney Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ph: 02 9514 1724 Fx: 02 9514 1628 Home: http://www.speleonics.com.au Linux enthusiast, active caver and interested in anything technical. *** -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Quick Debian Network Q.
quote who=Steven downing jdub made mention of the /etc/network/interfaces file in the slug archives, and how this can set the default route, is this the appropriate place for my 'private' route aswell?? Possibly. You can use up, down, pre-up and post-down to do all manner of things; I've often used them for setting routes as I can't see a better place to do it (keeps it all in one spot anyway, which is good). man interfaces is the man page for that file, so have a poke around in there and see if it's appropriate. :) - Jeff -- Man, is there some worldwide consipiracy to supply me with doctored dictionaries or something? - Adrian van den Dries -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Video on a TV
quote who=Peter McCarthy I expect you need a special video card that supports this, but the question is can Linux support these ? Have a look through the video4linux information in your kernel sources - there are plenty of cards that support AV input. My card of choice (based wholly on, er, price and good support in Linux) is the Bt848 or Bt878 (if you want an FM tuner to boot). - Jeff -- World domination is a community responsibility. - Michael Hall, LinuxPlanet -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SSH client question
That still allows the host key to be permanently stored, and if it doesn't match an already stored key then you get a warning message but the connection continues to be established. Incidentally, with openssh the man page says that one of the agruments to StrictHostKeyChecking can be ask. I couldn't get this to work. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates http://lannetlinux.com _ We needn't, as socialists, get too concerned about privacy; it's a bourgeois right, closely allied to the right to private property. - Former Federal Health Minister Neal Blewett, addressing the Fabian Society in 1988 in relation to the Australia Card issue. On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, John Clarke wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 11:11:26AM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: Is it possible to prevent the ssh client from permanently storing the remote host public key when it makes a connection to that remote host for the first time? The manpage does not give any indication. Try `StrictHostKeyChecking no' in ssh_config, or `-o StrictHostKeyChecking=no' on the command line. Cheers, John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Success with X Windows, of a sort ...
quote who=Crossfire However, most people use gdm or kdm instead of xdm because they're generally more pretty[5]. [5] More proof that people *still* pick aethetics over functionality. *sigh* This is what led us to bloody windows in the first place. Try gdm 2.2.2.1 and later. - Jeff -- Evil will always triumph over good, because good is dumb. - Dark Helmet, Spaceballs -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] SSH client question
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 05:19:48PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote: That still allows the host key to be permanently stored, and if it doesn't match an already stored key then you get a warning message but the connection continues to be established. Yes, I knew that, but at least it doesn't wait for you to answer. It's the best I can offer. Incidentally, with openssh the man page says that one of the agruments to StrictHostKeyChecking can be ask. I couldn't get this to work. Works for me: [johnc@dropbear ~]$ ssh -V OpenSSH_2.5.2p2, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090581f [johnc@dropbear ~]$ ssh -o StrictHostKeyChecking=ask dropbear The authenticity of host 'dropbear (192.168.1.16)' can't be established. RSA1 key fingerprint is 8f:c7:dd:11:0d:49:c4:53:80:08:70:b8:4c:4c:7c:df. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
Is there a ssh for windows NT/2000? jobst -- Who is general Failure and what is he doing on my disk? |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
Is there a ssh for windows NT/2000? Depressingly, I believe so Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
I use tera term with the ssh add on - ssh + replaces the dodgy windows telnet - Original Message - From: Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000? Is there a ssh for windows NT/2000? jobst -- Who is general Failure and what is he doing on my disk? |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 07:59:49PM +1000, Jon Biddell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there a ssh for windows NT/2000? Depressingly, I believe so hehehehehe. Very funny! jobst -- Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
* This one time, at band camp, enterfornone said: I use tera term with the ssh add on - ssh + replaces the dodgy windows telnet I might be wrong, but I'm assuming that he's looking for an ssh server (sshd) - I think there is a version for Win2K. TG -- Greeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG Key : 1024D/B5657C8B Key fingerprint = 9ED8 59CC C161 B857 462E 51E6 7DFB 465B B565 7C8B Imagine working in a secure environment and finding the string _NSAKEY in the OS binaries without a good explanation -Alan Cox 04/05/2001 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
Thanks for everyones response! jobst -- Fortune: No such file or directory. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
ttermpro is the best telnet/ssh client for windows IMO. It allows you to save multiple profiles for different servers including port forwarding - very good. -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting www.graenet.com - internet solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==---=-=--=-=-= On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Jon Biddell wrote: Is there a ssh for windows NT/2000? Depressingly, I believe so Jon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
putty.exe is a good ssh, and telnet replacement client www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Chris -Original Message- From: Jobst Schmalenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 29 June 2001 7:11 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000? Is there a ssh for windows NT/2000? jobst -- Who is general Failure and what is he doing on my disk? |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Quick Debian Network Q.
Edit /etc/network/interfaces to have something like: iface eth0 inet dhcp or: iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 Put an alias in /etc/modutils/aliases so that eth0 is aliased to whatever module your NIC uses and run update-modules. Then to get the interface up: ifup eth0 To get it to start at boot time, see the man page for interfaces. -- Rev Simon Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.rumble.net -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Re: Success with X Windows, of a sort ...
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Adam F. Bogacki wrote: Actually, the message I received when I had a closer look after sending my last (success !!) message was This xserver does not support the Shape extension. This is needed for Enlightenment to run. Your Xserver is probably too old or misconfigured Erp. OK, this is handleable. I know I have XFree86 Version 4.0.3 installed via apt-get but but my XF86 Config is 1996 vintage. I'll reiterate my suggestion to use the config file I supplied in it's entireity. It has support for the shape estension (through, IIRC, extmod). Hacking a line into a 3.3.6 X config may work (personally, I'm surprised it did) but so much ahs changed between 3.3.6 and 4 that you're missing out on a *lot* of good stuff - like the extensions... Other uggestions I have received include apt-get install task-x-window-System (overkill perhaps, but it might work) Hmm... when all you have are task packages everything looks like a task? g and dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (a bit more targeted) That would probably hit the nail quite happily. If a config file is actually written (I've reconfigured a couple of times and a new file hasn't been written - don't ask me why) it will be all XFree 4, and all will be good. At the moment I'm just glad to have my GUI up again but I would like to fix the anomaly sometime. Well, what you want is to add Section Module Load extmod EndSection That will solve the current problem, but without a complete XFree 4 config you're losing out elsewhere. I assume that Debian potato 2.2.r2 which I initially installed used XFree86 4.0.3 - it had a much more aesthetic login. Nope, it's 3.3.6. The reason it worked was that in Xfree 3.3.6 all extensions were monolithic parts of each X server. Now you can load modules somewhat dynamically (like the kernel) but there isn't any way of specifying modules to be loaded on the fly, so you need to specify which modules (and hence which extensions) will be used in your X server. -- --- #include disclaimer.h Matthew Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] JUMPER color=black+grey fleck owner=Mike Lake status=lost?/
Hi All, To those that went to the SLUG talk tonight I left my Jumper in the lecture room and I'm told that it may have travelled to the dinner. If so I hope it enjoyed a good meal and is wanting to return home. JUMPER color=black+grey fleck owner=Mike Lake status=lost?/ Mike -- Michael Lake Active caver, Linux enthusiast and interested in anything technical. Safety Convenor, Australian Speleological Federation Owner, Speleonics (Australia) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 29/06/2001 at 7:10 PM Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gregausit/slug] wrote: Is there a ssh for windows NT/2000? There are lots of clients, I have settled with putty. (terra term is good as well, but not as portable) There is a SSHD as well, not sure what use it would be at all except for the possibility of tunneling VNC which would be a good idea. I looked at the site a few weeks back, sorry do not have the URL at hand. Regards Greg Wright -- IT Consultant Sydney Australia PH 0418 292020 Available for Global Contracts Int. +61 418 292020 Web http://www.ausit.comE-mail Greg AT AusIT.com Trading As - AAA Computers -- providers of IT services. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Joining SLUG Remotely
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:50:32PM +1000, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote: On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 12:29:08PM +1000, Greg Wright ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: [snip] I have not followed this thread, but you guys may be able to use PayPal for member dues etc, they now accept Australian Bank accounts, you can call me some time if you want me to explain how it all works or look at www.paypal.com there are two australian sites: www.cybercash.com.au (their name has changed, dunno the new one) www.cardgate.net (located in Melbourne) It depends which Cardgate you use - their hosted service or their product. The product runs on Windows and is written in Visual Basic and it only interfaces with the Commonwealth Bank ecommdirect service. I don't know what their hosted service is like but I bet it uses their Windows product at the end of the day. Anand -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Joining SLUG Remotely
On Fri, 29 Jun 2001, Jon Austin wrote: I have not followed this thread, but you guys may be able to use PayPal for member dues etc, they now accept Australian Bank accounts, you can call me some time if you want me to explain how it all works or look at www.paypal.com As I said last time this thread occurred... The company I work for full time (and we contract SLUGers) offers a 'non credit card/bank account' (read: NOT paypal) payment system that would easily let SLUG accept membership dues from anyone. Potential SLUG member buys it from any Australia Post office (giroPost). We were also prepared to offer SLUG a heavily discounted merchant fee. I cannot do anything more than offer. It is up to someone in the committee or enough SLUG'ers to request it. As a technocash merchant.. I can say.. it works.. And it's not hard to implement. Not a lot of users using it yet tho.. Prolly needs more BIG advertising.. big bucks for that tho.. -- Anthony Rumble - Managing Director EverythingLinux.com.au - The Alternative Operating System Store LinuxHelp.com.au - Support,Training,Development,Consulting Phone: 0500 500 368 Direct 02-9712-1799 Fax 02-9712-3977 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Mozilla Rampant
Hi, I was wondering if anyone has ever had the same problem. I was tinkering with the Edit-Preferences in a rather frustrated effort to work out why Mozilla was not connecting to the server when it suddenly reformatted itself into thick blue vertical and red horizontal bands.Four or five bands. take the place of each border making it impossible to see descriptions or control buttons. Rather than 'rm Mozilla' 'apt-get install mozilla', has anyone had this problem and knows how fix it ? Adam Bogacki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Joining SLUG Remotely
*** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 30/06/2001 at 1:55 AM Anthony Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] [gregausit/slug] wrote: I have not followed this thread, but you guys may be able to use PayPal for member dues etc, they now accept Australian Bank accounts, you can call me some time if you want me to explain how it all works or look at www.paypal.com Yeah, but it still goes through US Dollars at some point.. so the money will end up being different all the time.. Id love to use it on my site too.. except of 2 problems.. 1. This US Dollar conversion issue.. Yes, it will probably not suit anyone who must have exact Aus dollar amounts, for me the closest AU dollar is ok so I would just look up the daily exch. rate and manually calculate, ie for SLUG I would use it and pay say $28 Aus dollar to be sure I covered the amount, but I realise this would probably not suit many people, and in your case you could not expect customers to do this..I have been using the system for a while, at least they have Aus bank accounts now, I am also under the belief that AU dollars was on the cards, the US slump may have slowed this plan down however. 2. I can't validate myself, because it doesn't seem to like my credit card.. I've tried everything.. and it just says Denied every time.. My card is fine.. Im booking stuff up on it all the time.. It's just paypal's systems don't like it.. So.. While Id love to try it out.. I can't use it.. and if I can't use it, theres probably lots of others who can't too.. which is kind of limiting. Yeah, cards can be a problem, I can tell you that the service has not been idle (ie changes and card companies forced some restrictions, ie I used to be able to credit my debit card, the card companies soon crushed that, I believe it is back on again now) I emailed their support, and they were totally unhelpfull. Yes, it is like anywhere, probably outsourced to some clone call centre where cut and paste answers are the order of the day, anything requiring real knowledge or help is just too hard for most call centres, I am willing to help you offline, I have helped a few organizations setup accounts. -- Anthony Rumble - Managing Director EverythingLinux.com.au - The Alternative Operating System Store LinuxHelp.com.au - Support,Training,Development,Consulting Phone: 0500 500 368 Direct 02-9712-1799 Fax 02-9712-3977 Regards Greg Wright -- IT Consultant Sydney Australia PH 0418 292020 Available for Global Contracts Int. +61 418 292020 Web http://www.ausit.comE-mail Greg AT AusIT.com Trading As - AAA Computers -- providers of IT services. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Outages
It's not the 1 dollar but the lost business from having NO internet connection for a good part of thursday. no chance of a refund on that Alister - Original Message - From: Anthony Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: SLUG Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 1:59 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Outages On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, Dean Hamstead wrote: No bitching but seeing telstra was out today (adsl for 7 hours) id like to encourage people to get the value of that period credited to next month. for adsl this is only about $1 ( $100*7/(24*30) ) however thats $1 that your basically giving to them $1 that could buy you some nice refreshing coke. remembering that if all customers hit them up for that $1, it would be 10,000's of dollars. something that may even inspire them to provide a product half as good as they say it might be. My pet budgie told me, that the reason for the outage, had something to do with some over-eager pointy haired people who pushed though some sort of system or software update.. that had little or no testing.. and of course.. it didn't work.. and the authentication server (The SINGLE linch pin of the WHOLE adsl network) didn't.. I definately think a refund is in order. -- Anthony Rumble - Managing Director EverythingLinux.com.au - The Alternative Operating System Store LinuxHelp.com.au - Support,Training,Development,Consulting Phone: 0500 500 368 Direct 02-9712-1799 Fax 02-9712-3977 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Outages
On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Anthony Rumble wrote: I have a perminant modem as well as ADSL.. there would be NO way I would rely totally on ADSL. Me too - without the modem link I would be sunk. I will ask Telstra for the discount. Actually I'm thinking of using these rolling outages as grounds for cancellation of my Telstra contract. There seem to be much more reliable services out there eg flow.com.au offers fixed IP adsl on their ATM network for about the same as telstra advance adsl -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting www.graenet.com - internet solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==---=-=--=-=-= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Outages
We use pacific Internet. We still had the outage as everyone uses Telstras Exchanges and servcies at some point... We do have a dialup modem too so we can still get email etc as pacific Internet kindly have a backup service so you can dial into them to download email. Alister - Original Message - From: Graeme Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Anthony Rumble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Alister Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]; SLUG Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Telstra Outages On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Anthony Rumble wrote: I have a perminant modem as well as ADSL.. there would be NO way I would rely totally on ADSL. Me too - without the modem link I would be sunk. I will ask Telstra for the discount. Actually I'm thinking of using these rolling outages as grounds for cancellation of my Telstra contract. There seem to be much more reliable services out there eg flow.com.au offers fixed IP adsl on their ATM network for about the same as telstra advance adsl -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting www.graenet.com - internet solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==---=-=--=-=-= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Outages
If you happen to be on the freedom plan and a home user you can cancel your contract right now without penalty, due to the 3GB cap. Pacific's ADSL rocks, 1.5Mb 1G download (upload traffic not counted) static IP's $170 a month. That is all. Matta On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 11:12:44AM +1000, Graeme Robinson wrote: On Sat, 30 Jun 2001, Anthony Rumble wrote: I have a perminant modem as well as ADSL.. there would be NO way I would rely totally on ADSL. Me too - without the modem link I would be sunk. I will ask Telstra for the discount. Actually I'm thinking of using these rolling outages as grounds for cancellation of my Telstra contract. There seem to be much more reliable services out there eg flow.com.au offers fixed IP adsl on their ATM network for about the same as telstra advance adsl -=-=-==-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Graeme Robinson - Graenet consulting www.graenet.com - internet solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==---=-=--=-=-= -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- Matt Allen Technical Director Investigation Marketplace 0413 777 771 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Telstra Outages
On Sat, Jun 30, 2001 at 10:21:29AM +1000, Alister Waller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: It's not the 1 dollar but the lost business from having NO internet connection for a good part of thursday. no chance of a refund on that I am not sure but wouldnt this be a case for the ACCC? They have helped me on a number of my claims (eg a very misleading advertising campaign of MYOB pre and past the TAX change). I would try them. jobst -- Was that your wife I saw in that GIF? |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
On Fri, Jun 29, 2001 at 08:30:54PM +1000, Tony Green ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: * This one time, at band camp, enterfornone said: I use tera term with the ssh add on - ssh + replaces the dodgy windows telnet I might be wrong, but I'm assuming that he's looking for an ssh server (sshd) - I think there is a version for Win2K. NO WAY! ;-)) I was trying to connect from a NT box (laptop from the internet) to a SSHD server on a Linux box for administration. My NT machines are all locked up and thats good this way! Jobst -- Take into account that great love and great achievements involve great risk. |__, Jobst Schmalenbach, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Technical Director| | _ _.--'-n_/ Barrett Consulting Group P/L The Meditation Room P/L | |-(_)--(_)= +61 3 9532 7677, POBox 277, Caulfield South, 3162, Australia| -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Telstra Outages
We use pacific Internet. We still had the outage as everyone uses Telstras Exchanges and servcies at some point... I was speaking with someone at flow.com.au yesterday and they claim that they are unaffected by Telstra outages as they don't use the bigpond network at all - all their own routers feeding into their own ATM network. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] From newbie to...
... whatever it is I am now. I was chatting to someone (sorry, I don't think we got to introductions!) at the meeting who asked about how one gets from newbie to... not-newbie. During the conversation I tried to remember what my first post to SLUG was about, and couldn't put my finger on it. I kinda remember a lot of SLUG before I ever posted (I was a long-time lurker), but it looks like this was my first post: http://www.woa.com.au/lists/slug/1999/199909/msg00584.html [ Thanks to Terry Collins, who has archives further back than the SLUG machine and ProgSoc. ] I hardly expected to come across this one: http://www.woa.com.au/lists/slug/1999/199911/msg01089.html [ Funnily enough, my first install of Debian ended up being the SLUG server, from a Linuxcare BBC (which bundled a minimal slink) at the office I was working at, then a hasty (and wildly impressive at the time) upgrade to potato at UTS. Until then, I had used Red Hat and e-smith (almost) exclusively. ] And then my first proper question: http://www.woa.com.au/lists/slug/1999/199912/msg00106.html Use dd and nfs, kiddo. ;) [ I'm cheating a bit here, as I did have some experience with Linux far, far back, just before version 1, although I never saw it as anything but an exotic toy to play with back then. I always dreamed of owning an SGI (I did a lot of film and graphic art work), so Linux was a little taste of kiddy Unix. If you reckon Debian's an arse to install, be thankful you didn't have to download all the critical components and make floppies of the lot just to install it! X, if my memory serves me, was 30 1.44MB floppies! ] So, in 1998 I vowed never to be a part of the computer industry again (I was jack of the sleaze and bullshit of the Windows world), early 1999 I remembered that Linux thing and through some fault of Grahame Kelly and family, found that there was heart and soul on the outskirts of the industry after all... I dived in head first (really, really head first) and haven't surfaced since. :) So if you (like the person I spoke to at SLUG) are one of the many people looking at Linux as an incredible series of mountains to climb, certainly be prepared to stumble around a bit finding your way. If hard work and all the very helpful SLUGgers aren't enough, you can always try the angry-young-man- with-political-incentive tactic that I chose. ;) And never be too embarrassed to post to SLUG! Everyone was a newbie once. - Jeff -- you misspelt 'world dominatrix' - James Wilkinson -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Is there a SSH for Win-nt/2000?
Greg Wright wrote: There is a SSHD as well, not sure what use it would be at all except for the possibility of tunneling VNC which would be a good idea. I looked at the site a few weeks back, sorry do not have the URL at hand. www.freeswan.org has a page of various ipsec product for windows listed and info on ability to use with freeswan for VPN. New version 1.9.1 with oportunistic tunnels is now available. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Mozilla Rampant
root wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone has ever had the same problem. I was tinkering with the Edit-Preferences in a rather frustrated effort to work out why Mozilla was not connecting to the server when it suddenly reformatted itself into thick blue vertical and red horizontal bands.Four or five bands. take the place of each border making it impossible to see descriptions or control buttons. Rather than 'rm Mozilla' 'apt-get install mozilla', has anyone had this problem and knows how fix it ? I do not understand your problem however I would start with getting the nightly build to see if the problem goes away. KenF -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
