Re: [SLUG] KDE 3...problems

2002-10-25 Thread Amanda Wynne

Thanks for that.  The symlink has fixed kde. So simple when you know how.
Krusader still has no toolbar. And my rpmdrake doesn't look anything like you 
describe. There's nothing about "diffs".

I tried re-installing Krusader; make clean, make, make install.

Amanda

On Saturday 26 Oct 2002 1:15 pm, James Gregory wrote:
>
> Now, on to fixing the problem.
>
> there is a file - /etc/profile.d/10lang.sh, the /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
> is supposed to be a symlink to it. According to rpm the lang.sh file
> does not belong to a package (which is pretty unsurprising). I don't
> know exactly which script it is that is supposed to make this symlink,
> but making the symlink yourself will fix the problem. So
>
> su -
> cd /etc/profile.d
> rm -f lang.sh
> ln -s 10lang.sh lang.sh
>
> will fix your problem.
>
> I don't, however have any short answers as to why it didn't do it on its
> own. I would have thought that the postinstall for initscripts would
> have taken care of this. Anyway, I had the same problem ages ago when I
> upgraded to cooker from 8.2, which was how I knew the answer.
>
> I didn't have the same problem when I did a full upgrade on my other box
> - this might have been luck, because it had some odd stuff installed, or
> it might be a problem with the upgrade packages only thing.
>
> HTH,
>
> James.

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Re: [SLUG] problem with X

2002-10-25 Thread Jeff Waugh


> I am having trouble getting x running but unfortunately I can't see 
> anything in my logs that indicates why, it just seems to die. Could someone 
> please look at these X logs and let me know if you can find something there 
> which would indicate why it is failing?

Nothing suspicious in the logs... how are you starting X? If you're kicking
it off with startx, and you don't have a ~/.xinitrc, it will just quit out
because it has nothing to do.

Not a failure, but not much of a success either. ;-)

Put something like the following in there:

  exec /usr/bin/wmaker

- Jeff

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[SLUG] problem with X

2002-10-25 Thread Adam Hewitt
Hi Guys and Gals,

I am having trouble getting x running but unfortunately I can't see 
anything in my logs that indicates why, it just seems to die. Could someone 
please look at these X logs and let me know if you can find something there 
which would indicate why it is failing?

Thanks

Adam.rogue:~# startx

warning: process set to nice value 0 instead of -10 as requested

This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any
way.  Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted
to [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions,
please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
(http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)

XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6510)
Release Date: 21 December 2001
If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is
newer than the above date, look for a newer version before
reporting problems.  (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ)
Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.17 i686 [ELF]
Module Loader present
(==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Fri Oct 25 22:33:28 2002
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config-4"
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Re: [SLUG] KDE 3...problems

2002-10-25 Thread James Gregory
On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 05:33, Amanda Wynne wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've upgraded my Mandrake system from 8.2 to 9.0, using the 3 CD set from 
> Everything Linux. Took the upgrade packages only route.
> 
> The KDE desktop won't run. It quits with the error message saying that 
> etc/profile.d/lang.sh  doesn't exist.
> 
> I normally use IceWM as my default desktop. KDE is my default desktop for user 
> root. Since logging in as root and trying to startx, now my Krusader file 
> manager has lost its toolbar icons. (It was working OK).

If you just wanted to switch the default desktop for superuser, you can
do so by editing the ~/.desktop file.

Get back to me on this - I have a suspicion that these two problems are
related, but I could be completely wrong.

> 
> When I unsuccessfully tried to install KDE3 on MDK8.2, I used rpmdrake to 
> uninstall kde3 and re-install kde2. But now rpmdrake has also lost all its 
> options. Like choosing sources. Or uninstalling packages. It will do installs 
> only.

which kde 3 packages did you use? I had some issues because I was using
cooker packages when I tried the same trick, but that's to be expected
-- cooker is development.

There was a great deal of discussion on the cooker list about rpmdrake's
"new look". I didn't actually pay much attention because I always use
the command line tools. So, that's your first option. The command to
remove sources is urpmi.removemedia and the command to add sources is
urpmi.addmedia. The other option, if you happen to be gui minded is to
use mandrake control center (mcc is the command, I'm sure it's in the
menus somewhere). Click on the "Software Management" "thing", and then
the "Software Sources Manager" icon.

The new rpmdrake is supposed to be really cool. They've got this "diff
screen" thing which shows you the changes it wants to make to config
files and such, and lets you edit it -- again, I've never used it.

There's also a "remove software" icon in the same place.

Incidently the change is because the "mandrake control center" is
supposed to be a "control center" now as opposed to "a disjunct set of
applications that happen to share a common launching mechanism".

> 
> Short of wiping it and putting 8.2 back on, any other help would be greatly 
> appreciated.

Now, on to fixing the problem.

there is a file - /etc/profile.d/10lang.sh, the /etc/profile.d/lang.sh
is supposed to be a symlink to it. According to rpm the lang.sh file
does not belong to a package (which is pretty unsurprising). I don't
know exactly which script it is that is supposed to make this symlink,
but making the symlink yourself will fix the problem. So

su -
cd /etc/profile.d
rm -f lang.sh
ln -s 10lang.sh lang.sh

will fix your problem.

I don't, however have any short answers as to why it didn't do it on its
own. I would have thought that the postinstall for initscripts would
have taken care of this. Anyway, I had the same problem ages ago when I
upgraded to cooker from 8.2, which was how I knew the answer.

I didn't have the same problem when I did a full upgrade on my other box
- this might have been luck, because it had some odd stuff installed, or
it might be a problem with the upgrade packages only thing.

HTH,

James.

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[SLUG] Old CD-ROMS

2002-10-25 Thread Alan L Tyree
Hi,
I have some old Windows programs on CDs that I wanted to install under
Wine. I can't get them to mount - message from Nautilus/details is:

"mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/cdrom,
or too many mounted file systems."

The relevant line from /etc/fstab is:

/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0


Any hints gratefully accepted.

Thanks,
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[SLUG] KDE 3...problems

2002-10-25 Thread Amanda Wynne
Hi,

I've upgraded my Mandrake system from 8.2 to 9.0, using the 3 CD set from 
Everything Linux. Took the upgrade packages only route.

The KDE desktop won't run. It quits with the error message saying that 
etc/profile.d/lang.sh  doesn't exist.

I normally use IceWM as my default desktop. KDE is my default desktop for user 
root. Since logging in as root and trying to startx, now my Krusader file 
manager has lost its toolbar icons. (It was working OK).

When I unsuccessfully tried to install KDE3 on MDK8.2, I used rpmdrake to 
uninstall kde3 and re-install kde2. But now rpmdrake has also lost all its 
options. Like choosing sources. Or uninstalling packages. It will do installs 
only.

Short of wiping it and putting 8.2 back on, any other help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Amanda
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Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: [discuss] GPL Under Attack]

2002-10-25 Thread Rev Simon Rumble
On Fri 25 Oct, DaZZa bloviated thus:

> If you add up all the amounts M$ have donated to the US political arena in
> the last 2 years, you get more than 1.8 million dollars.

There's also significant amounts paid by Microsoft employees.
(there's a search you can do on donators' employer)

Note that there is also a big amount of "soft money" in the US which
is harder to track down.  According to that same site, they spent
US$1.9 million in the 2002 election cycle.

If you're wondering where the Australian version of this lives, see:
http://search.aec.gov.au/annualreturns/

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Re: [SLUG] Software RAID-5?

2002-10-25 Thread Paul L Daniels
> Them fancypants hardware versions - especially the Compaq ones - allow
> you to just chuck the drives back in in any place you want to, and they
> figure it out for themselves and build the array appropriately.

Speaking of the compaq ones... has anyone had troubles getting mkinitrd to finalise a 
kernel containing the SMART2 RAID controller without errors on kernels 2.4.18 or later?



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Re: [SLUG] Software RAID-5?

2002-10-25 Thread DaZZa
On Fri, 25 Oct 2002, Jeff Waugh wrote:

> > I guess rearanging drives in RAID 5 is bad really bad, right? Like you
> > can't have a,b,c and then by mistake put b,a,c
>
> Bad, bad, bad. :-)

Only in the software versions.

Them fancypants hardware versions - especially the Compaq ones - allow you
to just chuck the drives back in in any place you want to, and they figure
it out for themselves and build the array appropriately.

It's way cool to watch. :-)

DaZZa

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Re: [SLUG] Software RAID-5?

2002-10-25 Thread Jeff Waugh


> Hmmm, okie, what happens if one drive fails and you don't have a spare at that 
> time? Can u just halt, remove the faulty drive, boot back and keep using only 
> 2 drives till the 3rd one comes in?

Yes. You have single drive redundancy. I generally have a spare drive
installed to take over as soon as there's a failure, *just* in case.

> Then install the 3rd one and watch raid5 "terminator 2" itself back
> together? Or does it require to have all 3 drives installed at all times?

Yep. Replace the faulty one, then everything comes back and you get to watch
the funky /proc/mdstat "animation".

> I guess rearanging drives in RAID 5 is bad really bad, right? Like you 
> can't have a,b,c and then by mistake put b,a,c

Bad, bad, bad. :-)

> md driver doesn't have bad block relocation, is it useful at all if you can 
> just replace the drive that causes the problem?

If I cared enough to set up RAID, I'd care enough to remove any drive that
even hinted at failure... :-)

- Jeff

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Re: [SLUG] [Fwd: [discuss] GPL Under Attack]

2002-10-25 Thread DaZZa
On 25 Oct 2002, Ken Foskey wrote:

> > http://www.ooodocs.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=265
> >
> > The GPL has come under heavy attack in the US House of Reps. It seems that Bill
> > Gates has figured out that what the RIAA can do, he can do, so he set a few
> > bought and paid for reps in an attempt to blast the GPL out of existance. Wired
> > has a good story, Slashdot is buzzing, and Google News has the goods from all
> > over the net.
> >
> > Read more with links at
> > http://www.ooodocs.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=265

If you follow one of the links in the one of the discussion threads on
Slashdot, you come to this page

http://www.opensecrets.org/

There's a search box on the side bar which reads "Look up an Individual
Donor".

Type "Microsoft" in the box and see what you get

If you add up all the amounts M$ have donated to the US political arena in
the last 2 years, you get more than 1.8 million dollars.

No wonder the US government is sucking up to Bill! what chance has Linux
got?

DaZZa

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[SLUG] [Fwd: [discuss] GPL Under Attack]

2002-10-25 Thread Ken Foskey
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> From: Martijn Dekkers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [discuss] GPL Under Attack
> Date: 25 Oct 2002 13:25:40 +0200
> 
> http://www.ooodocs.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=265
> 
> The GPL has come under heavy attack in the US House of Reps. It seems that Bill
> Gates has figured out that what the RIAA can do, he can do, so he set a few
> bought and paid for reps in an attempt to blast the GPL out of existance. Wired
> has a good story, Slashdot is buzzing, and Google News has the goods from all
> over the net.
> 
> Read more with links at 
> http://www.ooodocs.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=265
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Martijn
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Build RPM,s RPM seg faulting.

2002-10-25 Thread Yuri
Heya

Do #strace rpm  -Uvh thatrpm.rpm and see where does it get stuck

Usually it's 'cuz package wants to update the files that are not in there (rpm 
db, etc) and are not used in your version of rpm
Upgrading to the newer(est) rpm usually fixes the problem. I had the same 
problem when i was using rpm from rh 7.0 to compile packages from 7.3 and 
they were all segfaulting on me till i upgraded to the rpm used in 7.3

Let me know if this helps :)

On Friday 25 October 2002 00:18, Gareth Walters wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> I have successfully managed to get rpm building an rpm of my source
> but when I go to install it rpm Seg faults and dumps a core.
>
> How can it happily build the RPM then die when installing it?
>
> Has anyone see this problem before does anyone have any
> idea what I may have done to cause this?
>
> TIA
>
> Gareth Walters

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Re: [SLUG] Software RAID-5?

2002-10-25 Thread Paul L Daniels
> keep using only 2 drives till the 3rd one comes in? Then install the 3rd
> one and watch raid5 "terminator 2" itself back together? Or does it
> require to have all 3 drives installed at all times?

One may consider the use of RAID mirroring + LVM.

Sure, okay, as posted, LVM is going to change, but, well, is there anything more 
flexible and redundant than a Mirroring + LVM setup?  If someone does know a more 
'comforting' setup then I'm interested to know... because I'll soon have to be 
ordering a few dozen drives.

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Re: [SLUG] Software RAID-5?

2002-10-25 Thread Yuri
Heya again :)

Hmmm, okie, what happens if one drive fails and you don't have a spare at that 
time? Can u just halt, remove the faulty drive, boot back and keep using only 
2 drives till the 3rd one comes in? Then install the 3rd one and watch raid5 
"terminator 2" itself back together? Or does it require to have all 3 drives 
installed at all times?

I guess rearanging drives in RAID 5 is bad really bad, right? Like you 
can't have a,b,c and then by mistake put b,a,c

md driver doesn't have bad block relocation, is it useful at all if you can 
just replace the drive that causes the problem?

Thanky again in advace for your response :)


On Thursday 24 October 2002 03:06, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
>
> > a) How do you know when one of the harddrive fails? Do i have to look in
> > the messages all the time for it or will it ( or can i make it) beep on
> > bootup or smth like that to let me know that it failed?
>
> cat /proc/mdstat ... From mine (software RAID-1):
>
>   Personalities : [raid1]
>   read_ahead 1024 sectors
>   md0 : active raid1 ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/part2[0]
> ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part2[1] 38832576 blocks [2/2] [UU]
>
>   unused devices: 
>
> Those two U's mean "up". :-) It also gives you a cute little status bar
> whilst the drives are syncing. Also, most distros will have a cronjob that
> mails you if a hard drive has failed.
>
> > b) Is it CPU-intensive? I have 4 drives right now in P133 with 98MBram
> > all using Promise cards and it's running 2.4.18-xfs kernel (rh7.2),  and
> > not sure if my setup will handle RAID-5.
>
> RAID is pretty simple stuff, so it's usually I/O speed that you should look
> into if it's important to you. The gnome.org machines run on software
> RAID-5, and we haven't had too many problems... However, if there are lot
> of writes going on, it will take a fair bit of cpu / kernel time.
>
> > c) This is silly, but can i add more drives later to that RAID-5? Like
> > another 1 or 2 drives and not loose anything, or should i be looking at
> > LVM rather than raid5?
>
> Because of the way the data is laid out, you can't add more drives later
> with RAID-5 without backing up and creating a new array. However, if you're
> just interested in more redundancy, you can create a RAID-5 array of RAID-1
> arrays. This sounds silly, but sometimes it's useful.
>
> LVM is worth looking at, but is going to change in 2.6 anyway. :-)
>
> - Jeff

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[SLUG] Build RPM,s RPM seg faulting.

2002-10-25 Thread Gareth Walters
G'day all,

I have successfully managed to get rpm building an rpm of my source
but when I go to install it rpm Seg faults and dumps a core.

How can it happily build the RPM then die when installing it?

Has anyone see this problem before does anyone have any
idea what I may have done to cause this?

TIA

Gareth Walters
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[SLUG] Speakers for Python Interest Group, Monday November 18

2002-10-25 Thread Mary
Hey all,

Is there anyone who would like to make a presentation, short or long, to
the SLUG Python Interest Group? We'll have a projector in November.

You're welcome to talk on:

 - Python features

 - Python tricks

 - Python libraries

 - projects you've done in Python

 - projects other people have done in Python :)

Audience is currently small, more welcome.

Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you would like to talk to us.

-Mary
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