Re: [SLUG] How to create an ISP

[mkraus]

Could this please be taken to slug-chat or off the main list?

Thanks...

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Re: [SLUG] How to create an ISP

[Christopher Samuel]

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On Friday 07 Feb 2003 2:54 pm, Phillipus Gunawan wrote:

> so far, thats what i found on the web. but, is that
> the right way? how about the phone line? what modem
> should i use?

You are going to have a lot of work to do. You need to think about things 
like:

1) How many simultaneous users are you going to support ?
2) What's the user/modem ratio going to be ?
3) Will you just support POTS, or try and be more adventurous and do ISDN and 
ADSL  ?
4) How much bandwidth are you going to buy from your upstream connection(s) ?
5) Are you going to have multiple upstreams ?  If so, will you peer traffic 
with them ?

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Re: [SLUG] How to create an ISP

[Umar Goldeli]

PG,

Mainly regarding the "modems" side of things:

If you want to do it all with linux, it is possible, however I have not 
played with Linux based RAC gear.

However, having said that - there are a million alternatives for "modems" 
- if that is the business model that you will be following.

Various vendors provide RAC (Remote Access Contrentrat[ion|or]) gear - 
two that immediately come to mind are Cisco and Ericsson/ACC - both of who 
provide relatively easy to use gear.

Cisco: have a look at the 53xx (probably old news by now?) series of gear

Ericsson/ACC: Tigris - they make a bunch of gear for this purpose - you 
may also find it under the label "MainStreet Xpress" (very carrier grade 
stuff).

You were asking about "lines" - no, you don't use normal phone lines - you 
get "channelized" E1's etc - or PRI's in AU speak - speak to Telstra or 
Optus (or insert carrier here who offers a Primary Rate Interface ISDN 
service - or "OnRamp(tm)" equivalent service) - with Telstra, you'll be 
asking for an Onramp30 - which is basically an equivalent of 30 phone 
lines coming down a single 2Mbit link - which plugs into your Tigris/Cisco 
etc box and people can dial into it.. (you can also use normal phone 
lines, but it requires different gear, and you won't be able to supply 56k 
with it, and you'll need modems, lots of modems)...

Next, you'll need bandwidth - a link to the internet, which is what will
sink you in the long-run unless of course, you have another way of
gettting is $cheap. ;)

Traffic/bandwidth is ludicrously expensive in AU.

And what all of the above has to do with Linux, I don't know. :)

//umar.


> Doh... is it really true there is no ducumentation on
> the net i can look up?
> 
> Anyway, i have tought about that, i made 1 dedicated
> linux as a router gateway. it will receives dial up
> connection from a client and redirect it with some
> "RAS" with squid..
> 
> so far, thats what i found on the web. but, is that
> the right way? how about the phone line? what modem
> should i use?
> 
> can experienced_person guide me or show me the light?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> --- Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan
> > wrote:
> > >I got an assignment, to create almost full
> > documentation (implementation
> > >and pricing) on how to create an ISP in Sydney.
> > 
> > Step 1: Get lots of funding -- you're going to lose
> > a lot of money.  :-)
> > 
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[SLUG] NIS/YP question

[Rob B]

While this is not strictly a Linux question, it does involve some Linux 
boxen (and a couple of Windows and FreeBSD systems :)

I have about 5 machines at home, networked together.  Usually, about three 
of them are in use at any given time.  To save updating various bits of 
info when I make a change that would affect them all (adding or renaming a 
host, changing a user password etc.) would it be a good idea to use NIS/YP 
or some such service?  This way, I would only have to make a change on the 
server and have it reflected on the various hosts.

What would be an alternative to NIS in this situation?  LDAP?

cheers,
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[SLUG] FW: Ozemail ADSL using Netgear DM602

[Peter Hewett]

After three days trying I'm getting low on stamina and I need help -
whoyagonnacall ? - SLUG !.

I've installed a Netgear DM602 ADSL modem. It's running in Modem mode (As I
want to use Linux to do the firewall and routing work)

Powered it up, connected it to a windows 98 box and used it to download
Mandrake V9 - no problems. The link works, the DM602 works, and it
downloaded a gig and a half in about 9 hours.

So I burnt three CD's and then blew away the windows machine, and installed
Mandrake with no problems.

This was three days ago and I had the ADSL connection working once at about
8:30pm last night and I browsed a few www sites happily.
Since then something changed (and it's not obvious to me what) and now I
cannot get it going again. As I try to start the rp-pppoe using the
adsl-start script it times out while trying to identify the ADSL PAD(?).

I'm using Roaring Penguin's PPPoE software (which comes with Mandrake) and
I've read many how-to's and the roaring penguin site and I'm still stuck.

No doubt I just need to learn more about networking and discover my own
stupidity, but it would be handy if someone could point me at a resource
that might help me work out what's going on ?















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Re: [SLUG] How to create an ISP

[Rob B]

At 14:54 7/02/2003, Phillipus Gunawan sent this up the stick:

Doh... is it really true there is no ducumentation on
the net i can look up?


Didn't I give you a link (tldp.org) to search?  If you really want others 
to do your homeopwrk, then I think you are asking in the wrong place.

Where have you looked?

Did you read http://tldp.org/HOWTO/ISP-Setup-RedHat-HOWTO.html at all?  You 
haven't said anything about the size of this pretend ISP, so I think you 
have done pretty well thus far.

There is a book by Geoff Huston (Telstra Internet chief scientist) called 
ISP Survival Guide, (John Wiley & Sons, Nov 1998)  Read a little bit about 
it at http://www.potaroo.net/books.html

If you need bandwidth prices, call backbone providers (worldcom, Telstra, 
Comindico or the like) and ask.

Check out vendor websites for hardware prices.

Be specific - how many dialin lines are you required to have, how many 
customers are you providing services to, are there any other services you 
will provide apart from dialup?

Nobody is going to do your homework for you.
Rob

Anyway, i have tought about that, i made 1 dedicated
linux as a router gateway. it will receives dial up
connection from a client and redirect it with some
"RAS" with squid..

so far, thats what i found on the web. but, is that
the right way? how about the phone line? what modem
should i use?

can experienced_person guide me or show me the light?

Thanks.


--- Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan
> wrote:
> >I got an assignment, to create almost full
> documentation (implementation
> >and pricing) on how to create an ISP in Sydney.
>
> Step 1: Get lots of funding -- you're going to lose
> a lot of money.  :-)


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Re: [SLUG] RUXCON Announcement

[Matthew Palmer]

On Wed, 5 Feb 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[BS Snipped]

> 
> Note: Your email address was manually selected for this
> announcement by our staff. No further emails will be sent to you
> unless you register via the conference website. *This is not spam*

This is bollocks, BTW.  They didn't "manually select" anything, they
scraped off websites.  I know this, because I got one sent to an address
which is only in one place, and which has no relevance to the stuff they're
pushing.

Anyone with a boulder pledge up their sleeve be warned.


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Re: [SLUG] How to create an ISP

[Phillipus Gunawan]

Doh... is it really true there is no ducumentation on
the net i can look up?

Anyway, i have tought about that, i made 1 dedicated
linux as a router gateway. it will receives dial up
connection from a client and redirect it with some
"RAS" with squid..

so far, thats what i found on the web. but, is that
the right way? how about the phone line? what modem
should i use?

can experienced_person guide me or show me the light?

Thanks.


--- Jamie Wilkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This one time, at band camp, Phillipus Gunawan
> wrote:
> >I got an assignment, to create almost full
> documentation (implementation
> >and pricing) on how to create an ISP in Sydney.
> 
> Step 1: Get lots of funding -- you're going to lose
> a lot of money.  :-)
> 
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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

[Matthew Palmer]

On 6 Feb 2003, Alan L Tyree wrote:

> Has anybody had any experiences, good or bad, with any particular
> solution? Other people at this thing will be using Powerpoint, so I
> would like to look as good as they do.

I used to use foiltex, but I wasn't happy with the flashiness of it.  On a
recommendation, I tried out Prosper, and absolutely love it.


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Re: [SLUG] Outlook Web access and Squid

[Robert Collins]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 14:20, cgaddes wrote:
> Hi Guys
>  
> Has anyone managed to get OWA to work via Squid?
>  
> I have found mention of the squid.conf file to add extension methods
> but I have not Idea?

Squid 2.5 should work out of the box.

Otherwise see squid.conf.default and look for extension_methods. Also
the squid FAQ has info on this IIRC.

Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] Outlook Web access and Squid

[mkraus]

I'm not sure about OWA, but a simple solution may be to turn on tranparent proxying, and have your router forward all HTTP requests to the Squid proxy.

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Hi Guys
 
Has anyone managed to get OWA to work via Squid?
 
I have found mention of the squid.conf file to add extension methods but I have not Idea?
 
any help would be great
 

[SLUG] RUXCON Announcement

[staff-con]

RUXCON - 12/13 April, 2003. SYDNEY, Australia.

RUXCON is a conference organized by and for the Australian computer
security community. It is an attempt to bring together the
individual talents of the Australian scene through live
presentations, activities and demonstrations.

RUXCON will be a two day conference held on April 12 and 13, 2003.
The presentations will cover a full range of defensive and offensive
security issues, varying from unpublished technical research to
fundamental concepts for the general public.

The presentation track will allocate one hour time slots per
speaker. The activities will be more hands-on, interactive, and
typically presented in an informal fashion. Activities and
competitions will allow people to learn new skills, while experts
test their abilities against their peers.

The venue of the conference is the UNIVERSITY OF TECHNOLOGY, SYDNEY.
It is due to the generosity of UTS that the conference does not
require commercial sponsorship.

At present, the expected ticket price is AU$30, however this may
decrease closer to the event.  Please note that the conference
will be held over a weekend to facilitate greater attendance.

For more information on the conference, and for information on
submitting presentations or activities, please see the conference
website at http://www.ruxcon.org/

We hope to see you there.

Regards,
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[SLUG] Outlook Web access and Squid

[cgaddes]

Hi Guys
 
Has anyone managed to get OWA to work via 
Squid?
 
I have found mention of the squid.conf file to add 
extension methods but I have not Idea?
 
any help would be great
 

Re: [SLUG] Word Perfect for Linux on Linux

[Terry Collins]

Ashley Lynn wrote:

...snip.
> Had it (WP8.0 Delux for Linux) 

This is the one I have and want to use.

>WP Office 2000 for Linux

Okay, I forgot that Corel brought out WP Office on Linux. As I remember
it, it was a wine emulation based app. I didn't buy this - seemed like
it was just like buying MS software again and again.

> running on Mandrake 9 until a recent reinstall. Had to load a compat
> glibc library (from the Mandrake 8.1 disks) to get it going though.

The Slug archives list the libraries needed for this. (Sorry both mine
and Slug are turning up junk atm, so no url).

> I'm told it installs easiest on a Debian system though.

Debbie and I just do not get on. Whenever I want to get it on, it just
doesn't want to and on the rare occassions it does, I'm too busy doing
something else. 

Thanks for the info. Someone has suggested Suse 6.4, and if it works, it
will solve the problem. X {:-).

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Re: [SLUG] Word Perfect for Linux on Linux

[Ashley Lynn]

>Back to a favourite of mine {:-)
>Has anyone got Worperfect FOR Linux, running on Linux
>and can they tell me which distro and version (of Linux) they are
>using.  Taa.
>
>* No, I don't want to know about WordPerfect for Windows running on
>Linux. The last solution posted was for WP 2000 to run on Linux under
>wine, etc.

Had it (WP8.0 Delux for Linux) and WP Office 2000 for Linux running on Mandrake
9 until a recent reinstall. Had to load a compat glibc library (from the Mandrake
8.1 disks) to get it going though. I'm told it installs easiest on a Debian
system though.

HTH
Stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] problem with email from cron

[Peter Hardy]

On Fri, 7 Feb 2003 10:20:57 +1000 Perry, David J wrote:
> and in the .forward file I put my desktop email address like so: 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Under Redhat 7.2 it worked like a charm.  I then installed Redhat 8.0
> and promptly broke it.  The output now goes to /var/spool/mail/david

Redhat doesn't appear to be respecting the .forward file.  Somebody who
knows Redhat better than I should be able to help figure out why.

> How do I get the email sent to the correct email address?  In the man
> pages it says " cron mails to the owner of crontab - or the user named
> in the  MAILTO environment variable in the crontab, if such exists. " 
>  I have tried changing the crontab entry to :
> 3,13,23,33,43,53  *  *  * [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> $HOME/bin/itrust_monitor.sh to no avail.

In your setup, the MAILTO variable is only being defined as part of the
command cron is running.  It needs to be on a line of its own for cron
to recognise it, as so:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3-53/10 * * * * $HOME/bin/itrust_monitor.sh

3-53/10 is shorthand for "between 3 and 53 minutes past the hour, every
10 minutes", a neater way of specifying what you've got.  The crontab(5)
manpage has full syntax details.  It also has an example of using
MAILTO.

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[SLUG] Firewall / IP Monitor

[Terry Denovan]

I am looking for a program which will act as a firewall, do
port forwarding, and monitor
all the traffic that comes in and out, I would like it
to basically report on how much data
has passed through for each internal IP Address and if
possible to enable and disable
certain internal IP Address’s from accessing the
internet. 

 

You help on this is would be highly appreciated.

 

Regards,

Terry Denovan

 

[SLUG] problem with email from cron

[Perry, David J]

Hi,

I have been running a bash script which monitors a web site every ten minutes and 
sends me an email if it detects problems.  It is called with an entry in crontab like 
so:

3,13,23,33,43,53  *  *  *  $HOME/bin/itrust_monitor.sh

and in the .forward file I put my desktop email address like so:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Under Redhat 7.2 it worked like a charm.  I then installed Redhat 8.0 and promptly 
broke it.  The output now goes to /var/spool/mail/david

How do I get the email sent to the correct email address?  In the man pages it says " 
cron mails to the owner of crontab - or the user named in the  MAILTO environment 
variable in the crontab, if such exists. "   I have tried changing the crontab entry 
to :
3,13,23,33,43,53  *  *  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
$HOME/bin/itrust_monitor.sh
to no avail.

Can anyone help?

Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] External/Portable Hard Drive

[Andrew Fries]

On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 06:28, Sean Jackson wrote:

> I am looked for a portable storage option (around 60G - 80G), that is
> compatible with Linux for under $1000, smaller the physical size the better.
> This will only be used for backups of a SCSI drive. I have looked at
> external USB hard drives and figure that is probably my best option given
> the above. My only concern it  that most websites only talk about Windows
> compatibility but I am 99% sure Linux would work. The drives I am looking at
> are the Maxtor 3000LE and a Lacie d2-usb drive or the Lacie Pocket drive
> (60G). Has anyone got these units to work under Linux RedHat 8.0?. Help
> appreciated. Thanks.

I just went through setting up an external USB drive. It's a regular
80MB internal IDE drive set in the external enclosure and the overall
cost of the whole exercise was well under 500 bucks. The enclosure came
from www.pcrange.biz and costed just $100, and the drive I bought at the
markets for whatever they go for these days, I can't remember the exact
figure... 
This setup is both USB 1 and USB 2 compatible. I use it only with USB 1
and the performance is... well... what you'd expect :) But it works, and
it's sufficient for the purpose of archiving.
I also found there *were* some compatibility issues, but workarounds
were available and in any case, they got fixed with kernel 2.4.20.

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RE: [SLUG] Mouse Cursor is not in correct position - 1cm to right

[Jon Biddell]

Hi Terry,

I had this exact same problem under Redhat 8.0 using the IMP/2 driver -
only in my case I was getting two cursors

I don't know if this was an exact fix or not, but I changed back to 800
x 600 x 16, 60Hz refresh rate, and installed the latest NVIDIA drivers.
Rebooted and it was fine...

I'm assuming some unknown interaction between the mouse driver and the
video driver (GeForce 2 MX/400), but it sounds too weird to be right -
all I know is the new drivers fixed it.

Jon


> Hello Folks
> 
> I'm having a problem with my mouse cursor - it is appearing 
> on the screen 1cm to the right of where it actually is. After 
> restart, it is fine for a while, then shifts. Occassionally 
> it shifts back.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> I remember this being discussed before on SLug, but can not 
> find it in the archives (jargon or earlier than 2000).
> 
> Details
>   RH 7.3 installation
>   Gnome 
>   Xfree 4 drive is IMP/2
>   Mobo is MSI MS-6378 V3.2
>   Mouse is Dell MS intellimouse 1.1A PS/2

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[SLUG] Word Perfect for Linux on Linux

[Terry Collins]

Back to a favourite of mine {:-)
Has anyone got Worperfect FOR Linux, running on Linux
and can they tell me which distro and version (of Linux) they are
using.  Taa.

* No, I don't want to know about WordPerfect for Windows running on
Linux. The last solution posted was for WP 2000 to run on Linux under
wine, etc.
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Re: [SLUG] Sharing ext3 with Win98 under Samba

[Terry Collins]

Terry Collins wrote:
> 
> In one of those great decisions of the year, I made my new Linux boxen
> use ext3.
> 
> Now I want to share part of it under Samba. (i.e. I need to be able to
> pass data back to the linux boxen)
> 
> Is this possible ?
> Or should I just install another hard disk in the linux boxen as ext2?

Thanks for responses and clarifications.
It was a nut behind the keyboard problem {:-).

When I was rolling the config out, I didn't enter the line
read only = no

So my hosts in hosts allow could pluck off the samba shares, but not put
back.

Thanks.


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Re: [SLUG] Linux POS software

[Kevin Waterson]

This one time, at band camp,
Howard Lowndes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Try Googling for:
> 
> Linux "Point of Sale"
> 

For poing of sale ist is hard to go past ViewTouch.
We have tried many POS systems over several years and have found
this to the best of the bunch for our purposes.

http://www.viewtouch.com/poshome.html

Kind regards
Kevin

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[SLUG] Mouse Cursor is not in correct position - 1cm to right

[Terry Collins]

Hello Folks

I'm having a problem with my mouse cursor - it is appearing on the
screen 1cm to the right of where it actually is. After restart, it is
fine for a while, then shifts. Occassionally it shifts back.

Any ideas?

I remember this being discussed before on SLug, but can not find it in
the archives (jargon or earlier than 2000).

Details
RH 7.3 installation
Gnome 
Xfree 4 drive is IMP/2
Mobo is MSI MS-6378 V3.2
Mouse is Dell MS intellimouse 1.1A PS/2

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Re: [SLUG] Knoppix 3.1 and Browser Problem

[David Fitch]

On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 03:04, Bill wrote:
> I have installed Knoppix 3.1 onto HDD and can connect to my ISP without 
> problem, however neither Mozilla or Konqueror browsers can resovle a web 
> address. I have the browser preferences setup properly (direct connection 
> to Net) and my ISP has auto proxy, so no problems there ( I set the 
> browsers up the same way in Mandrake 9.0 and can use them OK there).

is it just the browser that doesn't resolve it?
or everything?  ie. does ping work from the command line?

check /etc/resolv.conf
and maybe set your browser preferences to use your ISP's proxy
rather than direct connection.

Dave.

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Re: [SLUG] Sharing ext3 with Win98 under Samba

[David Fitch]

On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 18:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Put simply, if Linux can read it, it can export it as a share with Samba.
> 
> If something is shared from a MS Windows box, Samba can mount it.
> 
> It's not clear what you are wanting to do though.

and don't forget: ext3 is just ext2 with journalling.
Ie. you can mount (and treat) ext3 as ext2 if you so desire
(which I do sometimes if I temporarily revert to a 2.2 kernel).

Dave.

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Re: [SLUG] External/Portable Hard Drive

[Jeff Waugh]

> I am looked for a portable storage option (around 60G - 80G), that is
> compatible with Linux for under $1000, smaller the physical size the
> better.  This will only be used for backups of a SCSI drive. I have looked
> at external USB hard drives and figure that is probably my best option
> given the above. My only concern it  that most websites only talk about
> Windows compatibility but I am 99% sure Linux would work. The drives I am
> looking at are the Maxtor 3000LE and a Lacie d2-usb drive or the Lacie
> Pocket drive (60G). Has anyone got these units to work under Linux RedHat
> 8.0?. Help appreciated. Thanks.

Hi,

How about the cheap and flexible option of buying a USB/firewire enclosure?
I have a USB2 enclosure that I use to cart around big data files, a friend
of mine has a Firewire enclosure with a 100G hard drive to store video data!
The great thing is that you can upgrade to a bigger disk at any stage.

You can get 3.5" (normal PC hard drive size) or 2.5" (laptop hard drive
size) enclosures, so with a bit of extra dollars you can go smaller. These
enclosures use standard usb/firewire storage protocols, and work brilliantly
with Linux.

Thanks,

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Knoppix 3.1 and Browser Problem

[Bill]

I have installed Knoppix 3.1 onto HDD and can connect to my ISP without 
problem, however neither Mozilla or Konqueror browsers can resovle a web 
address. I have the browser preferences setup properly (direct connection 
to Net) and my ISP has auto proxy, so no problems there ( I set the 
browsers up the same way in Mandrake 9.0 and can use them OK there).

Any help appreciated.

Bill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [SLUG] LaTeX slides

[Alan L Tyree]

On Thu, 2003-02-06 at 17:41, Michael Lake wrote:



> 
> One general suggestion i have is to avoid anything that looks like a
> PowerPoint (PP) presentation. Two reasons; I dot think that those styles
> are very professional or laid out well. The background yakes away impact
> from the content. 2. Such PP styles are now like the descending flight
> of ducks on the wall. They are over cliched and over used. Eg for the
> prosper example (Figure 1.5) they have a screen shot that looks like a
> PowerPoint Presentation. That's what to avoid IMO. But you can use
> prosper and make your own style quite easy. Its an excellent package. 

Thanks for that Michael - I think these are good points. And thanks to
others for comments on packages. I am inspired to try several.


> 
>  All of the above though depends on what you are presenting and what
> the audience expects. 

Banking lawyers - no flames please!

Alan

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Re: [SLUG] Little project

[Kevin Saenz]

Thanks all who offered assistance, I found the type of project I was
talking about it's called schedule organizer. The only problem is that
there is a fee involved in aquiring it. So I guess programming is my
only alternative.

Thanks again.




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[SLUG] External/Portable Hard Drive

[Sean Jackson]

Hi,

 

I am looked for a portable storage option (around 60G –
80G), that is compatible with Linux for under $1000, smaller the physical size the
better. This will only be used for backups of a SCSI drive. I have looked at
external USB hard drives and figure that is probably my best option given the
above. My only concern it  that most websites only talk about Windows
compatibility but I am 99% sure Linux would work. The drives I am looking at
are the Maxtor 3000LE and a Lacie d2-usb drive or the Lacie Pocket drive (60G).
Has anyone got these units to work under Linux RedHat 8.0?. Help appreciated.
Thanks.

 

Sean

Re: [SLUG] Linux POS software

[Howard Lowndes]

On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Flash! wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> Could any of you help me with finding some opensource Linux software that
> can be used for order taking at a retail computer store?

Try Googling for:

Linux "Point of Sale"

64,900 references

> Thankyou in advance
> 
> Yours Sincerely
> Ashley
> 
> 
> 
> 

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WAS RE: [SLUG] Linux + PDA IS: Palm Zire

[Graeme Robinson]

Quoting Jean-Francois Dive <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> i reckon it really depends on the pocket pc itself 

On the topic of pda's, my second palm in 3 months has just died (don't ask) and 
I saw these nify little new ones - Zire is the model name. They are just $238, 
$278 with 3 full years of warranty.  Only 2mb but all I really need. So my 
question is has anyone else got one? It's USB only but I don't imagine that will 
be a problem with syncing as it's a stock Palm OS.

Ta.


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