Re: [SLUG] What *nix related courses have you enjoyed
quote who=Terry Collins In preparation for budget preparation time, I thought I would look on the bright side of life into that indulgent perk of the training course. So I'm proposing a thread on What *nix related course(s)/subject(s) have you found worthwhile and enjoyable. From the one day to something that is at most one night per week for a year. And can we take it as given that those Linux courses at Granville Tafe would be included? Yes, very much so. I haven't done the course, but I've taught a number of the classes, and the students have had very strong positive feedback about the content and Geoffrey's presentation of it. It's very friendly, community oriented, and fun. Even if you're not able to make the Granville course, certainly lean towards LPI if you're interested in the content. - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ I'm offering you my body, and you're offering me semantics. - Caitlin, Clerks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Debian - what is needed to compile?
Chris Barnes was once rumoured to have said: Now i'm starting to wander if this is a really crap release of Debian. I am getting E: Sorry, broken packages errors all other the place, no matter what I try to do! I did what Crossfire suggested: apt-get install binutils gcc cpp make libc6-dev but now i get this: Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.2.5-11.5) but 2.3.1-17 is to be installed E: Sorry, broken packages You wouldn't happen to be using the CD set that came with APC (I think it was) or some other computing magazine recently? I discovered all sorts of dependancy problems with that CD set in particular which don't occur with the Standard CD images. If you're using a CD-set build from original debian ISOs or built using jigdo, you should be fine however. If you are using that magazine's set, only use CD1, and you might be OK. I didn't really look very deep into it once I managed to install my friend's machine. I personally use net installs or the standard CDs. C. -- --==-- Crossfire | This email was brought to you [EMAIL PROTECTED] | on 100% Recycled Electrons --==-- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Modem Recommendations please.
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 12:06, Bill wrote: Hi, I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain access to ADSL (once I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm interested in info re suitable recommended modems. I'd suggest checking the archives for the SLUG list and whirlpool for info. This topic is covered in depth frequently at both sites. greeno -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] LTSP server
Hi all, We have a LTSP server running nicely and enabling us to recycle our older (P90) computers sans HDD. Users login using windows credentials and can map their home drive permanently to the server so it is available as well. However I need to do one of two things: 1. Add a link to everyones desktop to a particular web page so that they can click it to launch Mozilla with the correct page loaded. or preferrably 2. Have Mozilla launch when any user logs in and go to the pre-determined web page Can I do either of these without having to login as every user first? Is all this info in a dot file that I can copy to the exisiting users directories and add to the skel directory? cheers Simon Bryan IT Manager OLMC Parramatta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] compiling courier imap, compiler cannot create
quote who=Voytek Eymont but it still fails with $ ./configure checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot eate executables See `config.log' for more details. Did you see `config.log' for more details, as it suggests? - Jeff -- Get Informed: SCO vs. IBMhttp://sco.iwethey.org/ You know a French woman is faking it when she screams, I would like the table near the window please! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] What *nix related courses have you enjoyed
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 13:34, Terry Collins wrote: In preparation for budget preparation time, I thought I would look on the bright side of life into that indulgent perk of the training course. So I'm proposing a thread on What *nix related course(s)/subject(s) have you found worthwhile and enjoyable. From the one day to something that is at most one night per week for a year. And can we take it as given that those Linux courses at Granville Tafe would be included? I found the Granville TAFE course excellent. a) Meeting of the minds, others to talk to and enquiring on Linux. Makes a huge difference. b) The content covers a broad range of Linux and there was a lot of stuff I kind of knew but now I know very well and there is those that I want to go through the course again to learn properly. c) The notes are free in all senses. Reading is different than sitting with a computer and hearing different opinions. Finally it is a bargain cost wise. UTS costs $2,000 per subject and is not as deep as the content of the LPIC course. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: ADSL Modem Recommendations please.
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:06:58 +1000, Bill wrote: Hi, I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain access to ADSL (once I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm interested in info re suitable recommended modems. I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with more reasonable download limits. Any recemmendations/experiences with ADSL modems will be appreciated. Avoid Alcatel ADSL modems; most of them seem to have security issues. Pretty much everything else is good and it all comes down to price. Also try and go for an ISP which uses either bridging or routing rather (Telstra ADSL B or C modes, iirc) than PPPoE. That way, you won't be subject to strange PMTU/MTU problems/clamping. Typically the ISPs which issue static IP addresses by default do this. Anand -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] compiling courier imap, compiler cannot create
** Reply to note from Gonzalo Servat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 06 Aug 2003 00:14:01 +1000 what am i missing ? Install gcc-c++ RPM thanks, Gonzalo. I d/l the rp, but, it says: # rpm -i gcc-c++-2.96-113.i386.rpm package gcc-c++-2.96-113 is already installed tried 'F' # rpm -F gcc-c++-2.96-113.i386.rpm but it still fails with $ ./configure checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot eate executables See `config.log' for more details. Voytek Eymont -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] apt-rpm and some weirdness
On Wed, 2003-08-06 at 22:02, Ramon Buckland wrote: Err http://apt.au.freshrpms.net redhat/7.3/en/i386/updates pkglist Waited, for bzip2 but it wasn't there Hi Ramon, So I'm probably stating the obvious, but I'd start by checking that the machine has a working copy of bzip2. Those files are on freshrpms, I can see them from here anyway. Is there any possibility that there's some sort of connectivity problem getting in the way? Lastly, I'd ask rpm to verify the installation of apt and see if that reveals anything. If you aren't sure of its origins perhaps you should download a known good copy from freshrpms and install that. Could be that someone installed apt from RPMs for a newer redhat ignoring dependencies or something. HTH James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] gdm 2.4.13-2 startup issues
Hi All, I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade on a sarge box I have here, and it's thrown me some problems with gdm. Whenever gdm is started, it cranks up X (as far as I can tell, just fine), waits for ~5 seconds, and then cranks up another X instance, informing me that there already appears to be an X server running on display :0, and asking if I'd like to try another display number. I've searched the net a little, and found a few references to this problem, but not any answers. Anyone got a suggestion? GTK is at 2.2.2-1 XFree86 is 4.2.1-6 kdm and xdm both fire up fine, as does startx. Cheers, Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Modem Recommendations please.
I have a billion ASSL Modem, www.ausadsl.info It's a firewall, USB, Ethernet and the cheapest I beleive still .. not if that doesn't sell you, well .. I have had no problems with it and found out the other day by poking around that you can replace it's web based admin via the built in FTP server which is attached to the FLASH ROM with my own version that I may just write .. (cool factor 10+) .. and probably break it, but hey .. On Thu, 2003-08-07 at 00:25, Alexander Samad wrote: I am a swiftel user, haven't had a problem as of yet, apart from the mtu problem but thats life. Cheap and reliable my 2c On Tue, Aug 05, 2003 at 11:08:20PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote: -= I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain -= access to ADSL (once -= I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm -= interested in info re suitable recommended modems. Gee, 7 weeks It's taken me 4.5 YEARS so far...:-( -= -= I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with -= more reasonable -= download limits. Have a look at the plans from Swiftel - they seem pretty reasonable. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug __ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] reloading deamons after altering conf: sighup ?
Fundamentally it is worthwhile knowing how linux (and most *nixes actual start). ( This nutshell description is for Redhat ) Once the kernel has finished loading, the kernel drivers and modules having the hardware ready to roll, it starts the process init. As you might expect it has the process id 1. (Do a pstree and you will find that init is the root of the process tree). init knows what to do by reading the config in /etc/inittab If you have a look at that file, you will see that it will launch the shell script /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, to get things like networking happening. init will then launch the script /etc/rc.d/rc (and telling it the run level that has been asked for, which is normally 5, to start X11 later). The rc script then basically goes through the appropriate /etc/rc.d/rcrunlevel.d directory (normally rc5.d) and starts the various subsystems listed there. It so happens that all these scripts (S* for start and K* for kill,when you shutdown) are just softlinks to the appropriate command scripts in /etc/rc.d/init.d. rc will start the S* scripts in numerical order. If the selected runlevel was 5, init then starts your preferred X displaymanager (xdm, gdm or kdm). You are then ready to login. While stop and start are the commands used by rc, most init.d scripts also have extra command verbs, such as restart, that are generally only used interactively. So by running the init.d scripts you are effectively usurping the role of process number 1. Bwa-ha-ha-hayou have control! Martin Martin Visser ,CISSP Network and Security Consultant Technology Infrastructure - Consulting Integration HP Services 3 Richardson Place North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia Phone *: +61-2-9022-1670Mobile *: +61-411-254-513 Fax 7: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail * : martin.visserAThp.com -Original Message- From: Jeff Waugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 20 July 2003 1:04 AM To: Voytek Eymont Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SLUG] reloading deamons after altering conf: sighup ? quote who=Voytek Eymont do I need to _remember_ this path, or, is there a way of working it out from something ? See Chris's suggestion about the 'service' binary. /etc/init.d/ is burned into my muscle memory, and if you're using Linux regularly, it won't take you very long either. :-) - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ Self-assertive pants are filled with confidence. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] basename files and paths with embedded spaces
Hmm I'd say mostly because it used not to have to. Indeed it would break quite a few things. The standard separator for command line parameters, for example, is the space character. The usual way of parsing is to break up the parameters based on the number of spaces so things like $1 $2 $3 work in shell scripts. I suspect in order to stay posix compliant (i.e. not break earlier software) you would have to either use quoted strings when referring to files with spaces, or do what MacOSX does and use the backslash symbol before the space. While we are on that topic, I would imagine if you supported UTF8 / i8n then the space problem kind of goes away because all filenames then become somewhat unprintable. Regards, Jill. -Original Message- From: Stuart Guthrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 August 2003 9:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] basename files and paths with embedded spaces Bug or feature: I'm wondering why the standard basename and dirname commands in gnu do not handle spaces in file names and paths. I guess there is a good reason why we need to code around it - ie it would break lots of other stuff to fix it. Question: Is there any /bin/sh script out there that handles this? Googling has so far been fruitless. Looks like I might have to bsh it. Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] ADSL Modem Recommendations please.
Alexander Samad wrote:
let me read the question again
netcomm 1300, bridging and router and 1/2 bridge for the lazy, not a
problem with it either, got it from swiftel.
Netcomm NB3300 ADSL modem router, again from Swiftel. It actually comes
direct from Swiftel. PS if you go Swiftel, gets some one connection
number and enter it as the referring agent. They can give you a six pack
in return. {:-)
Is easy to configure with IE on Win98.
The one page setup page (PPPoE, PPPoA, bridging, etc) plays up on
Netscape on anything (win98, NT, Linux) and can be dodgy on Mozilla on
woody Linux.
The other pages (DHCP, DMZ, logging, status, forwarding, etc) seem to
work okay 90% of the time. Not even Netcomm knew this. I'm happy with
it, except for this point.
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Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes
Gonzalo Servat wrote:
FWIW, the system is running Gentoo kernel 2.4.19,
dons asbestos suit {:-) that is obviously your problem. One of your
libaries needs a recompile /asbestos suit
Did you say new CPU mobo?
But you didn't list your mobo.
I have a MSI mobo that does this under linux, but noth that other OS.
HW freeze up problem solving 101.
(a)The easy 1 on 1 method.
Replace each and every hardware item one at a time for a period, say 24
hours (a week sounds better in your case since it only happens once a
day), until you replace the item that is broke = your system no longer
has that fault.
Have you done the basic cable/chip wiggle test? (remove+replace),3, *
every cable and chip[1].
Checked error/message logs?. A faulty CD drive/HD on the way out can do
this (timeout messages)
[1] Must be getting old, but can someone provide a RPN refresher?
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