[SLUG] Linux is Spiffy!

2003-08-09 Thread Martin
(watch the wrap)
http://www.nationalpost.com/financialpost/story.html?id=983BF037-2E43-4F68-9DAC-E5F1F8B766E4

"A team of talented volunteer programmers led by Linus Torvalds collaborated
over the Internet and built a stable, spiffy and very cheap operating
system."


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Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-09 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 7/08/2003 7:21 PM +1000, Ben Donohue wrote:

Hi Gonzalo,
Try removing everything that is *not* absolutely needed in the computer.
Ie all the cards that are not needed. Could be one of those causing the
problem. Remove *one* of the memory chips if possible and leave the other
in. then change it over. some systems will allow this. remove CDROM
temporarily if not needed etc. Also unplug/replug in everything a few
times as mentioned in another post. check that there are no bent pins on
devices too. swap keyboard and mouse, monitor if things start to get
desperate. I've had them cause computer hiccups in the past. take an
image of the machine that you can restore later with imaging software and
install the operating system again. if it falls over again it's most
likely hardware... perhaps... you know... try different stuff...
I'm going to try the SCSI card next, although unlikely to be causing any 
problems.

Unfortunately it's one 256MB DDR stick so I can't remove half as you 
suggested.

What I'm going to try after removing the SCSI card is running Knoppix on it 
for a few days just to be absolutely certain that it's not the OS.

Thanks to all who replied and keep the suggestions coming :)

Regards,
Gonzalo
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[SLUG] ADSL Modem Recommendations please.

2003-08-09 Thread Bill
Hi,

 I'm shortly to move house, and I'll be able to gain access to ADSL (once 
I get Telstra to lay the 'phone cables - 7 + weeks to date), so I'm 
interested in info re suitable recommended modems.

I won't be going with BigPond, but will select an ISP with more reasonable 
download limits.

Any recemmendations/experiences with ADSL modems will be appreciated.

The new house has been wired with cat 5 cable for data/video/phone lines, 
and I already have a PC to use as a firewall/router so a "plain" modem is 
all I need.

Thanks in advance

Bill

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Re: [SLUG] UWS IE5 Policy

2003-08-09 Thread Brad Kowalczyk
On 09 Aug 2003 22:57:52 +1000, Malcolm V <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On principle I refuse to change my user agent string, especially when
others want to point at analysis of their webserver logs to "prove" the
popularity of various browsers.
exactly. Why people still think they can use user agent strings to get
an accurate indication of the percentage market share for the different
browsers out there is beyond me. Unfortunately I think a lot of non
IE browsers are calling themselves IE. If I remember correctly the default
setting in Opera 7.1 is to identify itself as IE?? Not sure about Mozilla.
Brad
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Re: [SLUG] Debian - what is needed to compile?

2003-08-09 Thread Chris Barnes
Hi Peter,
Thanks for the help, but unfortunatly its not just Apache which I wish to
install, and I dont want to install all my software from packages, I was
planning on compiling some of them my self so I can get the versions of the
software which I need, like apache, squid, bind, etc.

All I really need to install from a package is the development environment.

- Original Message -
From: "Peter Chubb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Chris Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:43 AM
Subject: [SLUG] Debian - what is needed to compile?


> > "Chris" == Chris Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Chris> Hi sluggers, I have recently installed Debian 3.0r1.  I'm
> Chris> fairly new to debian, but I thought I was going ok until i
> Chris> tried to compile something.
>
> Get apt to install all the build prerequsistes for something simple.
>
> apt-get build-dep apache
>
> should get all you need to compile apache, for example.
>
> Peter C
>
>

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Re: [SLUG] fs benchmarked for 2.6

2003-08-09 Thread James Gregory
On Sat, 2003-08-09 at 09:58, Ben de Luca wrote:
> http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/715
> 
> 
> Whats this, reiserfs4 wins? How can that be XFS is clearly superior in
> my mind at least.

Have you been running reiserfs4? I was under the impression that Hans
hadn't made the patch available for 2.6 yet. My understanding is
(without a thorough reading of that document) that reiserfs3 is a little
faster than xfs for most operations (though where it really shines is
with lots of small files, eg maildirs). However, reiserfs4 is
significantly faster than reierfs3. I was reading about reiserfs4 the
other day -- Hans is doing some really nifty stuff with it. Reiser also
supports this notion of plugins for your filesystem, though that's not
really relevant to this benchmark.

But it's horses for courses. XFS is said to have better (ie extant)
recovery tools. I've never needed to recover either filesystem, so can't
comment. Reiserfs is in general faster though.

James.


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Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-09 Thread Ian Wienand
On Thu, Aug 07, 2003 at 11:55:59AM +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
> Think "sick building syndrome". Basically, new office/office works and
> factories produce lots of "fumes" that can deposit on nice new shiny
> pins and provide an insulating layer of gunk that causes intermittent
> problem.

This reminds me of a story (urban legend?) that I heard from around
here at UNSW.

Someone else probably has the full story (pchubb?), but the gist of it
is that there were a lot of single bit errors on one of the old
machines that seemed to appear for no reason.  All manner of part
swapping was done without success.

UNSW is in close proximity to Sydney airport, and after a lot of head
scratching it turned out that this was being caused by the air traffic
control radar sweeping past the machine and inducing errors ... so
kind of a sick building syndrome.

The moral of the story is to always check for high intensity radar in
the surrounding area when diagnosing problems ;)

-i
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Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-09 Thread Patrick Lesslie

On 7 Aug 2003, Kevin Saenz wrote:

> Gonzalo,
>
> I used to have that problem. My computer would freeze in Windows
> when ever playing a 3d game. I found it would freeze spasmodically
> using Linux. The problem was with my mother board and a buggy ACPI
> component. Now I have ACPI modules installed and I have not
> experienced a freeze.
>
> Gonzalo wrote:
> > I'm experiencing complete (and random) system freezes every day or
> > two.  I've not found a pattern yet, it happens at random. System
> > specs as follows:
> >
> > Athlon 1800+ CPU
> > 256MB DDR
> > Matrox G400 Dualhead
> > 2 x HDD
> > 2 x SCSI CDROM
> > 1 x FDD

I have a very similar system, (Athlon 1800+, Matrox G550 dualhead)
and apparently the same problem.  I have heard that Athlons like this
suffer from overheating, so I assumed it was that.

It freezes sometimes when there is a lot of system activity, so I put
in more fans.  While it hasn't helped much, I haven't ruled out
overheating.

But I've never tried ACPI modules.  It sounds good to me 

Patrick Lesslie

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Re: [SLUG] UWS IE5 Policy

2003-08-09 Thread Shaun Oliver
if she's using mozilla, there shouldn't be too much of a problem as
far as I am aware.
somebody correct me on this,

Thus spake Geoffrey Robertson,
> My wife does some teaching out at USW.  They have receintly told her
> that they will no longer be issueing paper pay slips.  They will be
> online and she will be "required" to use IE5 to read them.  She has
> told them that she uses Linux and is waiting for them to get back to her.
> 
> Now this is good.  Nobody has /ever/ told my wife that she is "required" to
> do something she doesn't want to do and retained the use of all their limbs.
> 
> She will take this to the union, she'll take it as far up the chain 
> as far she can go.  She will spend hours on the phone arguing.  I can
> hear it now:  "Give me your name, email me a copy of your departments
> complaint form, give me the phone number of the Universities legal
> department and connect me with your supervisor *NOW!*."
> 
> Will she be wasting her time?
> 
> Does anybody know any sys admins at UWS who might help?
> 
> Anybody got any strategys or amunition for her?
> 
> I put MSWord under wine on her machine after years of argueing with 
> people out at UWS who seem to know no other document format.  I could
> do the same with IE5.  But not without a fight.
> 
> 
> Geoffrey
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[SLUG] Re: Debian - what is needed to compile?

2003-08-09 Thread Anand Kumria
On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 18:44:30 +1000, Chris Barnes wrote:

> Yep I got the Debian 3.0r1 discs from the front of APC Magazine...which
> is where I pick up alot of my other disctibutions from.
> 
> See I dont normally use Debian, but I thought it was time for a change
> and Debian just happened to be on the magazine.

It sounds like you need to do:

# remove the second CD from the source list

# update the list of available packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get update

# upgrade any existing packages as required
[EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get -u upgrade (or maybe even apt-get -u dist-upgrade)

# install your development environment
Chris's suggestions should do the trick.

Regards,
Anand

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RE: [SLUG] ftp/shell descripancy, can not access symlinks from ftp

2003-08-09 Thread Voytek Eymont
** Reply to note from Andrew McNaughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sat, 9 Aug 2003 12:46:30 
+1200 (NZST)


> I'd strongly recommend not using wuftpd based on its security record. 
>  
> For configurability, go for proftpd.

Andrew, thanks for suggestion

I've now d/l and compliled proftpd;

so, now I need to unhook wuftpd, and, hook up proftpd

- should I be starting it from xinetd ?

- do I use a 'SysV-style' scripts on RedHat7.3 ?

I have a /etc/xinet.d/wu-ftpd

I guess I remove that and put a proftpd script in there ?

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Re: [SLUG] adsl technology.

2003-08-09 Thread dazza
On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Shaun Oliver wrote:

> hi all, I have here an adsl router which was sent to me from the uk.
> I want to know do our providers over here require that the modem support
> the telstra heartbeat or whatever the damned thing is,
> or am I confusing cable and adsl?
> the router afaik has a conexant chipset.
> any information would be greatly appreciated.
> I'd supply the model number if I could but I ain't asked Sam to read it
> off for me yet.

If you connect it to the Telstra network and it's not approved, you're
risking

A) a huge fine
B) it not working

Buy an approved one from an Australian dealer.

DaZZa

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Re: [SLUG] Random System Freezes

2003-08-09 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On 8/08/2003 10:26 AM +1000, David wrote:



On Fri, 8 Aug 2003, Gonzalo Servat wrote:

On 7/08/2003 9:40 PM +1000, Patrick Lesslie wrote:

> I have a very similar system, (Athlon 1800+, Matrox G550 dualhead)
> and apparently the same problem.  I have heard that Athlons like this
> suffer from overheating, so I assumed it was that.
>
> It freezes sometimes when there is a lot of system activity, so I put
> in more fans.  While it hasn't helped much, I haven't ruled out
> overheating.
>
> But I've never tried ACPI modules.  It sounds good to me 
I've tried removing the G400 too just incase it was the video card
overheating (I replaced it with a PCI S3) but it froze too (rather
quickly I might add). I also ran lm-sensors overnight and left it as
"sticky" on my desktop and on the upper layer, so that if it freezes
I'll see what temperature it last recorded. It was 0C degrees when it
crashed last night.
   ^^

zero centigrade? no wonder it froze! (sorry... I couldn't resist)

On a more serious note, isn't there a lower temp limit as well as a high
one? Where I live, low temperatures are never a problem, and I've never
heard of machines dying from low temps., but presumably it's possible.
Lower temp limit is +20C and max is +60C so you could be right. At the 
moment it's sitting on -29C (so it says anyway).. but it's not freezing, 
yet.. I had another freeze this morning.. ggr!

Regards,
Gonzalo
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RE: [SLUG] ftp/shell descripancy, can not access symlinks from ftp

2003-08-09 Thread Voytek Eymont
** Reply to note from "Theo Julienne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:07:59 
+1000


> Is the FTP server configured to mask the pathnames? 
>  
> Some FTP servers by default "lock" the user inside their home 
> directories, so "/home/username" ends up being "/" in FTP.

Theo,

it's not excatly what I wanted, but

/etc/ftpaccess

..
# If you wish to allow user1 and user2 to access other
# directories, use the line below:
# realuser user1,user2
realuser raymond
..

this then allows that user accees to any directory, not just the symlinks

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Re: [SLUG] Debian - what is needed to compile?

2003-08-09 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 06:44:30PM +1000, Chris Barnes wrote:
> Yep I got the Debian 3.0r1 discs from the front of APC Magazine...which is
> where I pick up alot of my other disctibutions from.

It doesn't sound like they're official 3.0r1 disks, if they've got glibc
2.3.1.  Hmm... yep, 2.2.5-11.2 is the latest in 3.0.

This isn't the first time APC have fscked it up, IIRC.  Or I may just be
remembering early reports of this same problem.

If you want official (real, true official) Debian CDs, I'm sure there'd be
no shortage of SLUGgers who'd burn them for you.  I'd offer, but I'm not
exactly in the area...

- Matt
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