[SLUG] glibc FAQ explaination pls
Hi,
I intend to upgrade glibc. My preference is --prefix=/usr.
The FAQ warns that I should rename /usr/include as per below.
My question is after the upgrade what do with the old (renamed)
/usr/include headers?
--snip--
2.3. How should I avoid damaging my system when I install GNU libc?
{ZW} If you wish to be cautious, do not configure with --prefix=/usr. If
you don't specify a prefix, glibc will be installed in /usr/local, where
it will probably not break anything. (If you wish to be certain, set the
prefix to something like /usr/local/glibc2 which is not used for
anything.)
The dangers when installing glibc in /usr are twofold:
glibc will overwrite the headers in /usr/include. Other C libraries
install a different but overlapping set of headers there, so the effect
will probably be that you can't compile anything. You need to rename
/usr/include out of the way before running `make install'. (Do not throw
it away; you will then lose the ability to compile programs against your
old libc.)
None of your old libraries, static or shared, can be used with a
different C library major version. For shared libraries this is not a
problem, because the filenames are different and the dynamic linker will
enforce the restriction. But static libraries have no version
information. You have to evacuate all the static libraries in /usr/lib
to a safe location.
The situation is rather similar to the move from a.out to ELF which
long-time Linux users will remember.
--snip--
I have searched the archives & the net at large to no avail.
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Re: [SLUG] PPP connect to my ISP
I'm not even going to ask why you aren't using wvdial in this day and age... You might want to give out about the Linux for dummies with RH, but just because configuring pppd directly was the only way 5 years ago doesn't mean it should be used now .. use a dialer, wvdial or RH or whatever, direct ppp configuration isn't a good way to do things anymore.. Dave. On Fri, 19 Sep 2003, Peter Hardy wrote: > On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 12:00, Jonathan Kelly wrote: > > my /etc/pap-secrets and /etc/chap-secrets the same with ... > > > > # client server secret > > "my-user-name" * "my-password" > > chap-secrets needs four fields. It should look like > "my-user-name"* "my-password" * > > If pppd is trying to do CHAP authentication, then you get very weird and > obscure authentication failures. P-) > > -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PPP connect to my ISP
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 12:00, Jonathan Kelly wrote: > my /etc/pap-secrets and /etc/chap-secrets the same with ... > > # client server secret > "my-user-name" * "my-password" chap-secrets needs four fields. It should look like "my-user-name" * "my-password" * If pppd is trying to do CHAP authentication, then you get very weird and obscure authentication failures. P-) -- Pegleg Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] PPP connect to my ISP
Hi there, I thought I'd make this offering to the God-of-all-technical-knowledge that is Slug, because it's very annoying that the windows solution "just works" (dammit). I'm trying to set up a dialup ppp connection to my ISP (Inspired) while my ADSL connection is transfered to my new address. Of course, they can't tell me what protocols are used, or any useful information about what I need to do as I'm not running RH, and they only know how to run the RH setup, which apparently works. There's a whole other story there about the evil-ness of Linux-for-dummies approach of RH hiding the need to understand how things work ... but I won't go there. I have the dialing and connection working, but the ISP goes straight into some protocol (I'm guessing PAP) without asking for username/password, like every other ISP I've ever used. here are my ppp options, in /etc/ppp/options ... # General configuration options for PPPD: lock defaultroute noipdefault modem /dev/ttyS0 115200 crtscts passive asyncmap a usepeerdns noauth my /etc/pap-secrets and /etc/chap-secrets the same with ... # client server secret "my-user-name" * "my-password" I'm guessing this is the problem somehow ... but those are the only two bits of information required by Win2K to get the connection working. All the PAP and CHAP stuff is voodoo mumbo jumbo to me, I mean, what's wrong with usernames and passwords! Sigh. and the log of the connection from /var/log/pppd/current ... [pppd] Serial connection established. [pppd] using channel 1 [pppd] Using interface ppp0 [pppd] Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0 [pppd] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] [pppd] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0xa7 ] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfRej id=0xa7 ] [pppd] rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 ] [pppd] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0xa8 ] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfRej id=0xa8 ] [pppd] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0xa9 ] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfRej id=0xa9 ] [pppd] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0xaa ] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfRej id=0xaa ] [pppd] rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0xab ] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfRej id=0xab ] [pppd] rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0xac] [pppd] sent [LCP TermAck id=0xac] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] [pppd] sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 ] [pppd] Hangup (SIGHUP) Strange ... despite the "noauth" option pppd sends a ConfReq, and rejects all ConfReq from the Server. Any ideas? Cheers, Jonathan. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Athlon not cool in Linux
> why resort to expensive hardware cooling when software cooling can do a > better job? Because when I REALLY hit my CPU, it's gonna need the heat dissipation anyway. I regularly peg my CPU out at 100% for hours on end. Which isn't to say that software cooling isn't good - in the average case, it keeps the cpu at a lower temperature and that can help extend the life and improve stability, but if my CPU can't cope with the temperature it hits after an hour at 100% cpu, then it can't cope at all. J. -- Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Open Source Software: Free as in Free Speech, not Free Beer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Font problem
At 15 Sep 2003 12:49:10 +1000, Peter Hardy wrote: > On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 12:28, Adam Bogacki wrote: > Of course, if they are installed, then you've got bigger problems that > I'd rather not think about unless they're actually happening. :-) An easy way to see what fonts the XServer knows about is to run "xfontsel" (or "xlsfonts" for simple "dump complete list to stdout" tasks) Of course, client-side font rendering is entirely up to the client. GNOME and KDE now use "fontconfig" to find them; supposedly you can use "fc-list" from the command line, but I've found that mostly useless. -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Re: Font problem
At Mon, 15 Sep 2003 15:06:30 +1200, Adam Bogacki wrote: > Checking the X font server's configuration file in > /etc/X11/xfs/config I find I have no 'xfs' directory there. > However, 'find' tells me I have Debian doesn't use/need xfs by default. I doubt you have a reason to use it either. -- - Gus -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Fwd: CERT Advisory CA-2003-24 Buffer Management Vulnerability in OpenSSH
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 10:09:03PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote: > oohh, I really hit a nerve here didn't I? Apologies to the list. This is a response to a private email and Shaun should have kept it private. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] PDA / Video 3G phone thingies
On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 12:29:31AM +1000, Grant Parnell wrote: > Turns out it's an OS called Symbian (see www.symbian.com) which is backed > by most of the phone manufacturers and has an open API (whatever that > means) if not the complete OS source code. This is often combined with Definitely *not* the source code. At work we've dealt with companies who are working with Symbian and we need NDAs just to get a copy of the OS binary. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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Re: [SLUG] apt-get Older versions of redhat (freshrpms question)
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Joel Heenan wrote: > Slug, > > I was going to upgrade my redhat 7.2 system to redhat 9 because I was under > the impression that no more rpms were being built this version of redhat > (as it says on http://valhalla.freshrpms.net/ ). Then with all the ssh stuff > I ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it found new ssh packages and > installed them! > > I am only interested in updating the system so it doesn't get r00ted, does > anyone know what the deal is whether security packages are still being built > and for how much longer? Do I need to upgrade or should I just keep checking > the freshrpms website to see if they have stopped building packages for my > system? > Whilst the future of official RedHat RPMS may be in question there's definitely no stopping people continuing to support RedHat 7.3 for a long time to come. It has a very large installed base and well if people feel the urge to fix it, it will be fixed. EG for a long time Anthony at the office was unofficially maintaining ssh rpm's for RedHat 6.2 (it never came with it as this was before openssh) and distributed with each new batch of the 'EverythingLinux Bleeding Edge RedHat 6.2' CDR's. -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] PDA / Video 3G phone thingies
The thread on Installing Linux on PDA's inspired me to go searching and my research started with Three's advert for the Motorola A920, I was interested in what it was running since it's looks like it's got almost all of my check points for features I want in a portable device. (see http://www.three.com.au/index.cfm?section=Explore&pid=450&pageid=481&sid=854 ) They still don't provide a TV remote Turns out it's an OS called Symbian (see www.symbian.com) which is backed by most of the phone manufacturers and has an open API (whatever that means) if not the complete OS source code. This is often combined with Java & Macromedia Flash to get access the now numerous mobile apps. My research led me to the Motorola A760 which runs Linux (see www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4504156025.html ) and was targeted for the Asian market. One possible reason is the wholesale dumping of Microsoft by the Chinese government in favour of Linux. Motorola's playing the sensible card here hedging their bets. With the networking features these things are packing it's possible we won't need mobile towers in well populated areas because traffic could route between phones. I reckon by the end of the decade we'll be using fully functional Star-trek tricorders & comm badges thus proving once again Science Fiction can become reality. -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cross platform encrypted filesystem
On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, David Kempe wrote: Hi David, did you look at CFS ? It is very robust and might be what you want. We like it a lot.. http://www.crypto.com/software/ > Hey Sluggers, > anyone know of something like the subject describes? > I am after an encrypted loopback like filesystem that is; > 1, 'F'ree or at least 'f'ree. kind regards Norm -- Epsilon-6! Ph:+612 8807-4780 Fax: +612 8807-4498 E-Solutions for BSD and Linux http://www.paladincorp.com.au/ This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] cross platform encrypted filesystem
Hey Sluggers, anyone know of something like the subject describes? I am after an encrypted loopback like filesystem that is; 1, 'F'ree or at least 'f'ree. 2, Supports linux 2.4 and windows xp I have looked at Bestcrypt and nothing much has happened there in a while - its not free either. I don't think anything support PGPdisk on linux. It doesn't have to support a large files - maybe some sort of gpg hackery can achieve what I need if I GPG up a zip file or something. being able to mount it in linux would be nice. Any suggestions? the obligatory freshmeat/google searchs are drawing blanks/ obscure research papers/ crap shareware. dave -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re: Athlon not cool in Linux
thanks for that, you have understood exactly my point, surely software cooling is a better engineering solution to reducing heat by getting at the source of the heat, rather than adding more blowers, and other air-conditioning. why resort to expensive hardware cooling when software cooling can do a better job? More importantly, How can Athlon processors be software cooled without hanging 'after-market' fixes to do what already happens to Intel processors? how can idle state be incorporated into kernel compile for Athlon processors? Russell >you also might want to try http://vcool.occludo.net/VC_Linux.html it worked on my old >motherboard. --- Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.518 / Virus Database: 316 - Release Date: 11/09/03 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
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Re: [SLUG] Fwd: CERT Advisory CA-2003-24 Buffer Management Vulnerability in OpenSSH
at the risk of being helpful, John Clarke delivered up the following on Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 09:42:21AM +1000, Next time, I suggest you read the thread you're responding to before making a fool of yourself in public. *SNIP* oohh, I really hit a nerve here didn't I? oh well, so you decided to fight fire with fire, I generally find water works better. maybe I should have read the thread, and yes I agree with you that doing yer upgrades and updates etc as a cron job ain't necissarily a good idea. for my money all $1.80 per hour, I like to see what's going on. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] vim scripting
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 11:29, Andrew Bennetts wrote:
> And to answer the question as actually asked, I think expand('%') will get
> the current file name, but I know very little about scripting vim...
your answer gave me the necessary clue stick...
I tried =expand(%) and the % had to be in quotes. All working
now. Here is may tag line for what it is worth...
I have cindent on so the backspaces might not be necessary for your
settings.
>> begin this on one line only <<
imap ,vvi
/*** vi:set
sw=4 ts=4 et
cin:$Id:$=expand('%')DESC=strftime("%d/%m/%y")
KMF CHANGE
LOG***/
>>--
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Re: [SLUG] apt-get Older versions of redhat (freshrpms question)
freshrpms just uses links to the RH dir on the FTP site it is on.. (planetmirror just fixed their freshrpms repo for me yesterday and it works fine now ) so as long as RH update it, freshrpms will have it.. Dave. On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, John Clarke wrote: > On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 05:11:15PM +1000, Phil Scarratt wrote: > > > Check the RH website - security updates. Pretty sure it says 7.1 thru > > 8.0 are being supported till Dec 31 2003. > > They are. Updated packages for 7.1 and above have been released. > > > Cheers, > > John > -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / [EMAIL PROTECTED] pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] apt-get Older versions of redhat (freshrpms question)
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 05:11:15PM +1000, Phil Scarratt wrote: > Check the RH website - security updates. Pretty sure it says 7.1 thru > 8.0 are being supported till Dec 31 2003. They are. Updated packages for 7.1 and above have been released. Cheers, John -- whois [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key id: 0xD59C360F http://kirriwa.net/john/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] apt-get Older versions of redhat (freshrpms question)
Joel Heenan wrote: Slug, I was going to upgrade my redhat 7.2 system to redhat 9 because I was under the impression that no more rpms were being built this version of redhat (as it says on http://valhalla.freshrpms.net/ ). Then with all the ssh stuff I ran apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it found new ssh packages and installed them! I am only interested in updating the system so it doesn't get r00ted, does anyone know what the deal is whether security packages are still being built and for how much longer? Do I need to upgrade or should I just keep checking the freshrpms website to see if they have stopped building packages for my system? Joel Check the RH website - security updates. Pretty sure it says 7.1 thru 8.0 are being supported till Dec 31 2003. Fil -- Phil Scarratt Draxsen Technologies IT Contractor 0403 53 12 71 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
