[SLUG] ADVICE REQUEST: Modem support in mission-critical environments
Hello, One of the customers wants to run Linux Enterprise Server 3 with several modems attached to it. They purchased HP ProLiant DL380 server and wish to use NetComm modems. The issue is that hey wantto have "unbreakable" evnironment and that modems do not fail under Linux. I have spoken to Netcomm and their official response was that none of their modem products officially support Linux, and no drivers and technical support were available for Linux. Red Hat offers support for the CDC/ACM driver, which is classified as "Working". >From experience, if a modem is a full hardware based modem and using serial interface for external modem, then it can be worked with Linux. Only two NetComm modems are full hardware devices: AM5698 NetComm Roadster V.92 (serial interface) AM4068 NetComm Wave V.92 (serial interface) The question is: is it worth playing with Linux support for modems on what customer wants to call mission-critical server? What is you experience? Do you run, or are you aware of any critical environment where Linux servers are used with directly-attached (or through a hub, Adaptec for example) modem pool? I know that Linux can work for reasonable use, but the services that customer have in mind are higly critical and highly utilised round the clock... I welcome and thank you for any comments in advance. Regards, Dusan (Amateur Radio VK2COT) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADVICE REQUEST: Modem support in mission-critical environments
Hey Dusan, Long time no chat. The issue is that you can't have an unbreakable modem under Linux because you can't have an unbreakable modem, because you can't have an unbreakable phone line. What if someone digs up your phone lines? What if the line just drops out, which even with the most reliable modems will happen once every few days? Having said that, Linux will work fine with any of the hardware modems you mentioned. Get used to replacing the modems every few years as they burn out from constant use, and perhaps consider rack modems which are more reliable but cost a lot more. -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADVICE REQUEST: Modem support in mission-critical environments
On Wed, 5 May 2004, VK2COT wrote: > Hello, > > One of the customers wants to run Linux Enterprise > Server 3 with several modems attached to it. > > They purchased HP ProLiant DL380 server and > wish to use NetComm modems. > > The issue is that hey wantto have "unbreakable" > evnironment and that modems do not fail > under Linux. > > I have spoken to Netcomm and their official response was > that none of their modem products officially support Linux, > and no drivers and technical support were available for Linux. > > Red Hat offers support for the CDC/ACM driver, which is > classified as "Working". > > >From experience, if a modem is a full hardware based modem > and using serial interface for external modem, then it can be > worked with Linux. > > Only two NetComm modems are full hardware devices: > > AM5698 NetComm Roadster V.92 (serial interface) > AM4068 NetComm Wave V.92 (serial interface) > > The question is: is it worth playing with Linux support for > modems on what customer wants to call mission-critical > server? > > What is you experience? Do you run, or are you aware > of any critical environment where Linux servers are used > with directly-attached (or through a hub, Adaptec for example) > modem pool? > > I know that Linux can work for reasonable use, but the > services that customer have in mind are higly critical and > highly utilised round the clock... > > I welcome and thank you for any comments in advance. It's a dumb requirement. There's no such thing as a machine that never breaks. If they want it signed in blood, you had better find out whose blood it's going to be. If it's yours, then drop out quick. I've got two netcom modems that have been going 24/7 for over three years without a glitch. One is pretty much permanently connected, the other is constantly dialled in from different locations. Both are Netcom Roadsters, although I don't recall the model. It isn't mission critical, but it wouldn't have made any difference because it never broke. Another netcom I had literally cooked in about 2 months, and became quite unreliable until I just gave up and bought a new one. I can't see where the linux part has much to do with it. Once I got the original configs sorted I've never had to look at the linux part again. If it's THAT critical, I would be more worried about hard drives, power supplies, UPS, phone lines, rats, cockroaches, human operators and terrorists than I would be about linux. For the record, the netcom that cooked did so after somebody stacked another modem on top of it. Modem sandwich :-) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] NFS problem
I have three machines connected: M1 ==> M2 ==> M3 M2 has two NIC's and will not act as a router so the network around M3 is secure. I have an NFS mount from M1 => M2 with no-root-squash,ro as /data on M2. When I try and mount M2 /data (NFS mount) to M3 as /data I cannot mount it because it is permission denied. I have no messages in /var/log/messages to show for my efforts so I cannot solve the problem. I do have another mount between the same boxes without any issues with exactly the same export file. I need to see the files on M1 on M3 to do support stuff (low volume so no performance issues). Distro is caldera (very old...). Any suggestions on how to make it work or debug the problem. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Editing audio CDs
Hi Alternatively, check out gcdmaster I think it is called. You can take one file, and use the program to place cue points, and then use cdrdao to burn the one file as several tracks. Luke At 04:56 PM 5/05/2004, Matthew Palmer wrote: On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 04:14:52PM +1000, Bill Bennett wrote: > A Cd contains one giant file. I will have to edit this (and > in the process, it would be nice to remove any foot shuffling, > bronchial egoists, etc.) You can rip the single track, chop it into useful sized tracks, ripping out the bits you don't want, then filter each track separately for any other noises you want to get rid of, then reburn. Tools for the task: * cdparanoia does a good job for the ripping. * audacity looks as good as any for the actual editing part. You'll likely need a large chunk of HDD space to hold the single large track plus all of your chopped bits. I can't remember what I used for my audio editing last time I had to play with that. * For specific filtering, sox is a good general-purpose sound-modification program. You can do all sorts of fades, band filtering, and pretty much anything else you're likely to want to try. Sox can also do your chopping for you, if you know the length and temporal position of all the individual parts you want. * cdrecord is *the* tool for CD burning, although you may possibly want to use a graphical front end like xcdroast for the task. > Has anyone had any experience with this kind of task? A bit. I've done some rip/reburn work for performances, and also some dubbing/filtering work for live recordings (court cases mostly - not mine!). I'm no audio engineer, though, so there might be better tools than the ones I've used. Note also that most of what I've suggested above are command line tools. - Matt -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NFS problem
On Wed, 05 May 2004 19:04:03 +1000, Ken Foskey uttered
> I have three machines connected:
>
> M1 ==> M2 ==> M3
>
> M2 has two NIC's and will not act as a router so the network around M3
> is secure.
>
> I have an NFS mount from M1 => M2 with no-root-squash,ro as /data on M2.
>
> When I try and mount M2 /data (NFS mount) to M3 as /data I cannot mount
> it because it is permission denied. I have no messages in
> /var/log/messages to show for my efforts so I cannot solve the problem.
> I do have another mount between the same boxes without any issues with
> exactly the same export file. I need to see the files on M1 on M3 to do
> support stuff (low volume so no performance issues).
>
And what does portmap have to say about this on both machines? Nine
times of ten, with a permission denied message, portmap is the service
responsible. Check hosts.allow on both machines, as well as rpcinfo,
and always remember the firing order for NFS (on Debian, anyway),
which is: portmap, nfs-common, nfs-{user,kernel}-server.
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[SLUG] Making life easy browsing //lists.slug.org.au/archives
Hi All Do you experience this frustration too? Previously opened links that do not change colour when you click the browser back button. I could before browse the slug archives with ease, BUT now find myself repeatly clicking the same link twice, by mistake. For some reason something has changed. It still works at www.google.com where clicking the browser back button will change the link just followed from blue to purple. I am running Redhat 9 with Mozilla 1.4.2. Is there a fix to change link colours once the linked is clicked. TIA Roger -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NFS problem
On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 22:02, Steve Kowalik wrote:
> And what does portmap have to say about this on both machines? Nine
> times of ten, with a permission denied message, portmap is the service
> responsible. Check hosts.allow on both machines, as well as rpcinfo,
> and always remember the firing order for NFS (on Debian, anyway),
> which is: portmap, nfs-common, nfs-{user,kernel}-server.
I already have a mount from M2 to M3 on another directory. So all the
NFS "stuff" is working correctly so I can say this is not the problem.
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Re: [SLUG] Making life easy browsing //lists.slug.org.au/archives
On Wed, 2004-05-05 at 22:28, The Salisbury's wrote: > I could before browse the slug archives with ease, BUT now find myself > repeatly clicking the same link twice, by mistake. The web designer can override the colours for "clicked" link and "unclicked" link to be the same value. I hope that this is not the case here. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] NFS problem
This one time, at band camp, Ken Foskey wrote: > > >I have three machines connected: > >M1 ==> M2 ==> M3 > >M2 has two NIC's and will not act as a router so the network around M3 >is secure. > >I have an NFS mount from M1 => M2 with no-root-squash,ro as /data on M2. > >When I try and mount M2 /data (NFS mount) to M3 as /data I cannot mount >it because it is permission denied. I have no messages in ISTR NFS mounts need a magical option that'll allow them to be reexported; I dont remember where it gets set nor where you can find more info though. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://spacepants.org/jaq.gpg -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Making life easy browsing //lists.slug.org.au/archives]
looks like you are right. stumbled across where it does work for examplehttp://lists.linux.org.au/archives/lias/2004-March/threads.html so its not my browser thanks Roger I could before browse the slug archives with ease, BUT now find myself repeatly clicking the same link twice, by mistake. The web designer can override the colours for "clicked" link and "unclicked" link to be the same value. I hope that this is not the case here. -- Thanks KenF OpenOffice.org developer --- Begin Message --- Hi All Do you experience this frustration too? Previously opened links that do not change colour when you click the browser back button. I could before browse the slug archives with ease, BUT now find myself repeatly clicking the same link twice, by mistake. For some reason something has changed. It still works at www.google.com where clicking the browser back button will change the link just followed from blue to purple. I am running Redhat 9 with Mozilla 1.4.2. Is there a fix to change link colours once the linked is clicked. TIA Roger --- End Message --- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Making life easy browsing //lists.slug.org.au/archives
Hey hey. At Wed, 05 May 2004 22:28:24 +1000, The Salisbury's wrote: > Previously opened links that do not change colour when you click the > browser back button. > > I could before browse the slug archives with ease, BUT now find myself > repeatly clicking the same link twice, by mistake. > > For some reason something has changed. Hopefully you noticed that quite a lot has changed. ;-) The mailman templates have recently been rewritten to look vaguely like the rest of the slug.org.au site. Looks like you've picked up on an oversight in the original CSS; tags are all ending up with the same colour, regardless of state. Thanks for the heads-up. I'll have this fixed tonight. > I am running Redhat 9 with Mozilla 1.4.2. Is there a fix to change > link colours once the linked is clicked. You can fairly easily tell mozilla to enforce colours and/or fonts you specify. Check in the options panel somewhere; my copy of Firefox 0.8 puts it smack in the middle of the General tab. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
Hi all, There should be no need to mod the box anymore. I personally have not done it, but it looks pretty straight forward. See: http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ Have a Great day!!! -- Dave Peters On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 03:01:19PM +1000, Michael Fox wrote: > > Im ok will running it but i dont have a modded xbox and I know you can > > install it with out opening the box. I just dont have the software to > > do that and wondering if any one does? > > > > You certain you can install it without a mod, from what I understand you > need the xbox modded. However I guess I could be lacking in this area, > considering I don't have one nor attempted myself. > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Iptables / proxy server madness
Robert Collins wrote: [snip] If everything is fine until the second CR, then you probably have a MTU issue. See man iptables and put a MSS clamp rule in as they describe. Bingo! Thanks so much Rob this was exactly the problem. :-) For the curious, the relevant man iptables info is, TCPMSS This target allows to alter the MSS value of TCP SYN packets, to con- trol the maximum size for that connection (usually limiting it to your outgoing interfaces MTU minus 40). Of course, it can only be used in conjunction with -p tcp. This target is used to overcome criminally braindead ISPs or servers which block ICMP Fragmentation Needed packets. The symptoms of this problem are that everything works fine from your Linux firewall/router, but machines behind it can never exchange large packets: 1) Web browsers connect, then hang with no data received. 2) Small mail works fine, but large emails hang. 3) ssh works fine, but scp hangs after initial handshaking. Workaround: activate this option and add a rule to your firewall con- figuration like: iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN \ -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu Cheers P. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Antigen found VIRUS= Win32.Netsky.P (CA(Vet),CA(InoculateIT),Norman) worm
Antigen for Exchange found data.zip->details.txt .pif infected with VIRUS= Win32.Netsky.P (CA(Vet),CA(InoculateIT),Norman) worm. The message is currently Purged. The message, "Re: Error", was sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and was discovered in SMTP Messages\Inbound And Outbound located at SHELDONANDHAM/SHELDONANDHAM01/SHELDONANDHAM01. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ADVICE REQUEST: Modem support in mission-critical environments
On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 06:55:17PM +1000, David wrote: > > > On Wed, 5 May 2004, VK2COT wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > One of the customers wants to run Linux Enterprise > > Server 3 with several modems attached to it. > > --- snip --- > > > > I welcome and thank you for any comments in advance. > > > It's a dumb requirement. There's no such thing as a machine that never > breaks. If they want it signed in blood, you had better find out > whose blood it's going to be. If it's yours, then drop out quick. > --- snip --- > If it's THAT critical, I would be more worried about hard drives, power > supplies, UPS, phone lines, rats, cockroaches, human operators and > terrorists than I would be about linux. For the record, the netcom that > cooked did so after somebody stacked another modem on top of it. Modem > sandwich :-) Or on the silly side, why not get a cyclades PC400, which is a 30modem pci card that handles ISDN primary or basic (different models). The cards are built for linux in mind. A > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
Dave wrote: There should be no need to mod the box anymore. I personally have not done it, but it looks pretty straight forward. See: http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/ Pardon my ignorance, but why did MS deploy the Xbox using Linux instead of one of their own operating systems, perhaps Windows CE? Is this a tacit admission by them that their own offerings are not up to scratch in the gaming dept? cheers rickw -- _ Rick Welykochy || Praxis Services No, I don't know that atheists should be considered as citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. --George Bush, quoted in the Scottsdale Tribune CAVEAT: all incoming praxis email is spam filtered. If you feel an email you sent has been ignored or lost, try again after rephrasing your subject line and the email content. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
> Pardon my ignorance, but why did MS deploy the Xbox using Linux instead of > one of their own operating systems, perhaps Windows CE? > > Is this a tacit admission by them that their own offerings are not up to > scratch in the gaming dept? Er, they certainly didn't ship Linux. It's a half-baked CE/NT mish-mash. - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ "World domination is a community responsibility." - Michael Hall, LinuxPlanet -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Update - April
Hi all, April was a pretty good month, there was a _lot_ of work put into the Free Trade Agreement (FTA) issue, in terms of submissions, education, publicity and the like. Many thanks to everyone who helped out, and especially to Rusty who put so much work into it, and has managed to speak to _all_ the right people :) If you are one of the (few) unenlightened, please check out http://linux.org.au/fta. It is your future at stake here, and with our government already trying to sell this idea to the US non-believers before listening to us, we have a lot to be concerned about. (http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/05/1083635180695.html) The LA ctte has been able to attend several seminars and symposiums on the FTA to give our point of view, and highlight to dangers present. We have also been speaking to several vendors and government representatives about it, we also have an article in this months IDM magazine. Anyone who hasn't already, for sake sign the petition :) http://www.petitiononline.com/auftaip/petition.html We have been trying to organise a visit from Lawrence Lessig to further convince our government of the major concerns surrounding Chapter 17 of the FTA. We've managed to convince him to take time out of his busy schedule for a once off appearance directly to our senate, rock on! :) Speaking of news, we have organised training for most of the press team, and several key members of the ctte and community. This is a trial thing, and if successful we may be able to offer this to more community members who have a need for such skills. Basically we are aiming at better arming our spokespeople and writers to come across more professionally and more effectively to our wider audience. This will hopefully help for LCA publicity as well as for issues such as the FTA and other concerns of the community. We have now established several relationships with publications and hope to have regular columns in some of them (details next month! still being finalised) which means a real voice out there. Check out http://linux.conf.au as the LCA2005 team already have put a few details up. They have some pretty kewl ideas and we are really looking forward to supporting them for the next LCA! We have had two grant requests this month, both from Computerbank NSW. Both are still progressing through our grants procedure (described at http://linux.org.au/projects/grants/. Apply for your project/event today!). Computerbank NSW has recently had the good fortune to be given 4000 machines, and we are looking to help them with establishing a way to deal with the machines, so that they can better do their job and distribute these machines to the socio-economically disadvantaged in our community. We strongly support Computerbank and hope that anyone out there with any time might also help them out. It is a good cause, and humbling to realise that the Digital Divide issue is alive and kicking right here at home. We are happy to announce that we are getting back off the ground with our education schemes. We are finalising the LA Education Officer position and will soon announce the lucky vict^H^H^H^Hperson ;) On this note, we are at this point in time the only official LPI Affiliate in Australia, and have not yet really worked with this due to other issues. We hope to strengthen our relationships with LPI and any other certification bodies (such as Red Hat) in order to improve our professionalism and ability as a community. OSEG (http://opensource.org.au/oseg/) had a big win with their advice to ACS (Australian Computer Society). The ACS has taken on our suggestions almost intact and have even backed our advice about the FTA. They will be officially unveiling their Open Source policies May 31st in Canberra. Way to go! We have a new web design, by the wonderful Janet Reid. Check out the icons and penguin tracks at http://www.lucychili.no-ip.org/linuxau/index.shtml. We will be playing with this and have a mock site up soon, then hopefully the entire website should be migrated within a month or two. We have a site-map available at http://linux.org.au/~pia/la-web-structure2.jpg for anyone interested. Warning, it is really big! We had a successful speaker swap with OLS for LCA2004, and will be having a speaker swap with LinuxTag for LCA2005. Way to go Damian Conway who will be enjoying OLS this year! Unfortunately for us, OLS has become a more kernel driven conference and so we decided to tee up with LinuxTag who are more in the same vein for next year. What else? We are organising business cards (finally!) and also hoping to have a sit-down OS demonstration for journalists in Sydney (to start), so anyone interested in helping out please contact me on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SLUGgers especially! :) I have been invited to speak at the Brazilian International Free Software Conference (http://softwarelivre.org) and will be coming back via New Zealand to visit :) I'll be ear-bashing the government representatives there to find out
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
On Thu, May 06, 2004, Rick Welykochy wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but why did MS deploy the Xbox using Linux > instead of one of their own operating systems, perhaps Windows CE? They didn't. As I understand it, the xbox runs something much like the Win2K kernel. Since the xbox is largely known hardware with a custom bios, Linux is installable on it if you utilise various tricks. > Is this a tacit admission by them that their own offerings are not up > to scratch in the gaming dept? Evidently not. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
the xbox is basically just a pc. i believe its a celeron with an nvidia video card the interfaces are just usb with different plugs, ethernet card, ide with hard disks so throw a bunch of monkeys (or even better, hackers* with too much time) in a room with an xbox and some linux sources and sooner or later... viola xbox linux. remember that linux is also on playstation2 (could also be on one) dreamcast and xbox as is netbsd etc. i believe sony helped get linux going on playstation2, but youll need to google it. the xbox is a powerpc with an ati card. its biggest problem is that it doesnt have a hard disk (unlike ps2 and xbox) Dean * note the use of the word hackers used correctly in this email. -Original Message- From: Mary Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Rick Welykochy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: SLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox >On Thu, May 06, 2004, Rick Welykochy wrote: >> Pardon my ignorance, but why did MS deploy the Xbox using Linux >> instead of one of their own operating systems, perhaps Windows CE? > >They didn't. As I understand it, the xbox runs something much like the >Win2K kernel. Since the xbox is largely known hardware with a custom >bios, Linux is installable on it if you utilise various tricks. > >> Is this a tacit admission by them that their own offerings are not up >> to scratch in the gaming dept? > >Evidently not. > >-Mary >-- >SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ >Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
Dean Hamstead wrote: i believe sony helped get linux going on playstation2, but youll need to google it. the xbox is a powerpc with an ati card. its biggest problem is that it doesnt have a hard disk (unlike ps2 and xbox) I'm guessing you mean't GameCube instead of xbox in reference to powerpc and ati card :) Here's a link for those who are interested : http://www.gc-linux.org/ Shane -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
> the xbox is a powerpc with an ati card. its biggest problem is that it > doesnt have a hard disk (unlike ps2 and xbox) [ Dean meant to say xbox2 first up in this sentence, just to clarify. :-) ] - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norwayhttp://2004.guadec.org/ "Ever since GNOME development began, I have urged people to aim to make it as good as the Macintosh. To try to be like Windows is to try for second-best." - Richard Stallman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Off topic - NLX Case Firesale
Hi All, I have nearly 200 surplus NLX cases with 130W PSU that I need to move. $10 each - min qty. 10 pieces. Ideal project boxes, shoe boxes or even a hamster house. Seriously though I do have a conversion kit to Mini-iTx available. Please reply off line. Kind regards, - Guy. -- Guy Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.traverse.com.au Mobile 0419 398 234 -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Next meeting of Audio/Music SIG
When: Saturday, May 22, 10:30am - 4:00pm Where: Macquarie University, building W6A, room 608 (6th floor) SLUGAMuSIG - Audio/Music Group All interested in music/ audio and Linux are invited for the next gathering of the group. The general plan is a demonstration/ discussion in the morning, followed by an open session of jamming/ coding/ talking in the afternoon. All levels of interest are welcome. The best way to get to the Music Department (on the 6th floor of building W6A) is from the Balaclava Rd entrance (opposite Woolies from Epping Rd). The closest parking is "W4", and costs $8.00 for the whole day. For people arriving at various times through the day, the front door may be locked, but we'll keep an eye out, or call Denis on 0408 478 802. Denis Crowdy -- Department of Contemporary Music Studies Macquarie University NSW 2109 Australia, ph: +61 (0)2 9850 6787, fax: 9850 6593 http://www.ccms.mq.edu.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Off Topic - My Appologies
Dear list, It has just been pointed out to me that my previous posting on Slug contravenes the guidelines for the list. I appologise for this oversight, as I am on a few lists and they all have different rules. However I should have double checked before posting. Regards, - Guy. -- Guy Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.traverse.com.au Mobile 0419 398 234 -- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
haha yes, that would be correct. being the powerpc-linux bigot that i am, im suprised i blasphemed such things as saying an xbox has a ppc Dean -Original Message- From: Shane Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: SLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox >Dean Hamstead wrote: > > >> i believe sony helped get linux going on playstation2, but youll need >> to google it. the xbox is a powerpc with an ati card. its biggest problem >> is that it doesnt have a hard disk (unlike ps2 and xbox) >> > >I'm guessing you mean't GameCube instead of xbox in reference to powerpc >and ati card :) > >Here's a link for those who are interested : http://www.gc-linux.org/ > >Shane > >-- >SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ >Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox
actually a lot closer than you think.. xbox2 is according to prelim reports PPC/ATI based .. again that is hersay rumour and conjecture :-) Dave. On Thu, 6 May 2004, Dean Hamstead wrote: > haha yes, that would be correct. > > being the powerpc-linux bigot that i am, im suprised > i blasphemed such things as saying an xbox has a ppc > > Dean > > -Original Message- > From: Shane Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: SLUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:57 PM > Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux on an xbox > > > >Dean Hamstead wrote: > > > > > >> i believe sony helped get linux going on playstation2, but youll need > >> to google it. the xbox is a powerpc with an ati card. its biggest problem > >> is that it doesnt have a hard disk (unlike ps2 and xbox) > >> > > > >I'm guessing you mean't GameCube instead of xbox in reference to powerpc > >and ati card :) > > > >Here's a link for those who are interested : http://www.gc-linux.org/ > > > >Shane > > > >-- > >SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > >Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > > > -- David Airlie, Software Engineer http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied / airlied at skynet.ie pam_smb / Linux DECstation / Linux VAX / ILUG person -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
