Re: [SLUG] possible bug in libc

[Terry Collins]

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> Hi,
> 
> We have an unusual problem with files that are invisible (sort of) to 'ls' 

Umm, are these MAC files by any chance?

I had something similar here for a while, but it went away.

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[SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[Jobst Schmalenbach]

All,

does anybody of you have any pointers to website(s) where I can
read about hosting companies (ie companies hosting your
webserver on a shared server or your own/leased equipment or ...).

I want to find a new hosting company, my current one is no good
(and *NO* currently i dont want to say who and why it is).


I know about whirlpool but the data/discussions/faqs are mostly
about ADSL/braodband connections (my internet connection is **VERY**
stable so I dont need that, *NO* outage since Feb 2003 and
that was my fault then).


I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?


Do any of you have any other names?



Thanks
jobst





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Re: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[Luke Yelavich]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:22:08PM EST, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?

AFAIK, WebCentral are a Windows-based hosting company. I guess you are after
a Linux-based host?

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Re: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[Jobst Schmalenbach]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 07:05:57PM +1000, Luke Yelavich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:22:08PM EST, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> > I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?
> 
> AFAIK, WebCentral are a Windows-based hosting company. I guess you are after
> a Linux-based host?

I saw them providun RedHat 9 based servers .. so I assumed they are mixed.
And yes it must be *unix based.


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RE: [SLUG] RSS Url Fetcher !

[Net Business International]

Hi Roger:

Yes I know of XML::RSS.

I ended up writing my own script to fetch the feeds
urls from some blog/rss engines, and then parses
it to XML::RSS. 

My only concern is not to do too many automated
searches via these blog engines. So am looking at how to deal
with this right now.

Does anyone know if the WWW::Search::SomeEngines modules from cpan
takes amount of automated searches into consideration ? I might end up
contacting the author of these backends about this.

I can't find anything about this from the POD docs for these backends
that's provided in CPAN.

Cheers.

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XML::RSS - creates and parses.  You'll need to retrieve the URL
separately, then feed (ahem) the result into the parse method.

http://search.cpan.org/~kellan/XML-RSS-1.04/ 

- Rog

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> 
> Hi:
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a Perl module that retrieves RSS
> urls from Blogs/RSS search engines ?
> 
> I've looked through CPAN with no luck, but I may have missed
> something.
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Re: [SLUG] possible bug in libc

[invader_zim]

What is a 'MAC' file? I couldn't find anything on what that is..

Cheers,

Campbell

Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > We have an unusual problem with files that are invisible (sort of) to 'ls' 
> 
> Umm, are these MAC files by any chance?
> 
> I had something similar here for a while, but it went away.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[Campbell McLeay]

All of webcentral's servers run windows - they are one of microsoft's
premier partners in aust. This may or may not be of concern.

They are ok from what I have heard, but they are expensive. Did
I mention that they only run windows? :)

I gather stability is paramount? 

Campbell



Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> does anybody of you have any pointers to website(s) where I can
> read about hosting companies (ie companies hosting your
> webserver on a shared server or your own/leased equipment or ...).
> 
> I want to find a new hosting company, my current one is no good
> (and *NO* currently i dont want to say who and why it is).
> 
> 
> I know about whirlpool but the data/discussions/faqs are mostly
> about ADSL/braodband connections (my internet connection is **VERY**
> stable so I dont need that, *NO* outage since Feb 2003 and
> that was my fault then).
> 
> 
> I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?
> 
> 
> Do any of you have any other names?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks
> jobst
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?

[Rob Weir]

On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:47:10PM +1000, Malik Jayawardena said
> Hi Nick,
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> We've acutally just sussed it out. Apparently FC2 has font scaling 
> disabled by default. All we did was add these two lines under 
> "*catalogue=*" to the
> */etc/X11/fs/config* and it fixed it.

Fedora still uses a font server by default?  Why?

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Re: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[invader_zim]

Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 07:05:57PM +1000, Luke Yelavich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:22:08PM EST, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> > > I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?
> > 
> > AFAIK, WebCentral are a Windows-based hosting company. I guess you are after
> > a Linux-based host?
> 
> I saw them providun RedHat 9 based servers .. so I assumed they are mixed.
> And yes it must be *unix based.

Think they run their Linux servers under Microsoft's virtual server...

Campbell

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Re: [SLUG] possible bug in libc

[Terry Collins]

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> What is a 'MAC' file? I couldn't find anything on what that is..

A file for a Apple Macintosh computer. Osx V10 on Macs can access samba,
etc.

I had downloaded a file for the Mac onto a samba share and it just
didn't show up with ls. So I downloaded into a sub-directory and it took
a few minutes for it to show up on ls. 



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RE: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[Michael]

I've found nettro.com.au to be reasonably priced, reliable, responsive and
provide linux / windows servers as required.  you can either sign up as a
reseller or host single / multiple domains.

Michael

> -Original Message-
> From: Jobst Schmalenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, 12 July 2004 6:22 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider
>
>
>
> All,
>
> does anybody of you have any pointers to website(s) where I can
> read about hosting companies (ie companies hosting your
> webserver on a shared server or your own/leased equipment or ...).
>
> I want to find a new hosting company, my current one is no good
> (and *NO* currently i dont want to say who and why it is).
>
>
> I know about whirlpool but the data/discussions/faqs are mostly
> about ADSL/braodband connections (my internet connection is **VERY**
> stable so I dont need that, *NO* outage since Feb 2003 and
> that was my fault then).
>
>
> I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?
>
>
> Do any of you have any other names?
>
>
>
> Thanks
> jobst
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[James Gregory]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 18:22 +1000, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:

> I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?

Web Central are pretty big. That has all the usual pros and cons. I've
heard good things about them from people who have needed windows
hosting.

> 
> 
> Do any of you have any other names?

I work for a company called Anchor Systems (http://www.anchor.com.au).
We're a Linux shop and the dudes who manage the servers (not I, I'm a
lowly programmer there) are ninjas. They also do colo, so you could put
your own box in if you like, but check these boxes out:

http://anchor.com.au/dedicated-server-1.py
http://anchor.com.au/dedicated-server-3.py

I don't know what your objections with your current provider are, so I
can't address them directly (nor can I point you at someone who excels
in those areas). Is there a specific problem you're looking to solve?

Ultimately I suppose you just need to shop around. It's a saturated
market so I suppose you'd do well to find someone doing something to
differentiate themselves from the pack.

I have heard that the guys over at Bullet Proof do good things as well,
but I've not used them before.

HTH and sorry if this comes across as a shameless plug. :)

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Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?

[James Gregory]

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 21:53 +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:47:10PM +1000, Malik Jayawardena said
> > Hi Nick,
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > 
> > We've acutally just sussed it out. Apparently FC2 has font scaling 
> > disabled by default. All we did was add these two lines under 
> > "*catalogue=*" to the
> > */etc/X11/fs/config* and it fixed it.
> 
> Fedora still uses a font server by default?  Why?

Why are you saying "still"? My Mandrake laptop (recently installed) is
running the xorg X11 server and its default config is to talk to a font
server. I was under the impression that it's pretty common practice. In
addition to the old-skool XDrawText calls which would use those fonts
are the various systems that do client-side rendering and use the
Xrender extension to put fonts on the screen. Keep in mind that these
are separate systems (as far as I know).

Anyway, it seems to me like a relatively sensible thing to do -- it
means you only need to load font data once between X servers. I
generally have GDM start up a couple of X servers on boot, so there's
presumably a saving there. Likewise, there's probably a time saving in
font loading time. There'll probably be a delay involved in IPC, but it
won't be worse than the overhead you already suffer from the X
infrastructure. My understanding is that the XFree86 X server is single-
threaded atm, so it's likely that using a font-server would allow you to
continue interacting with the machine whilst fonts are being loaded.
That's not an absolute reason for having a font server in an X
implementation, it's just a reason for it with the dominant ones. That
might also be false :)

The real reason to me though is that there's a fair bit of work involved
in dealing with fonts. I tend to have heaps of them installed. Having
the code to do that work in a separate process is a logical division to
my mind. It buys you stability in that a dodgy font won't take down a
running X server (well, not necessarily true, but it's another layer to
get through). You might need to restart your font server, but that's
acceptable. That can also be automated if need be.

I suppose I can also envisage situations where having a font-server
would allow you to enforce a site-license for a commercial font. Not an
issue here I suppose, but it's another reason for maintaining that
separation.

Anyway, HTH.

James.

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Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 12:41:37AM +1000, James Gregory said
> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 21:53 +1000, Rob Weir wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 04:47:10PM +1000, Malik Jayawardena said
> > > Hi Nick,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the reply.
> > > 
> > > We've acutally just sussed it out. Apparently FC2 has font scaling 
> > > disabled by default. All we did was add these two lines under 
> > > "*catalogue=*" to the
> > > */etc/X11/fs/config* and it fixed it.
> > 
> > Fedora still uses a font server by default?  Why?
> 
> Why are you saying "still"? My Mandrake laptop (recently installed) is
> running the xorg X11 server and its default config is to talk to a font
> server. I was under the impression that it's pretty common practice. In
> addition to the old-skool XDrawText calls which would use those fonts
> are the various systems that do client-side rendering and use the
> Xrender extension to put fonts on the screen. Keep in mind that these
> are separate systems (as far as I know).

Yes, afaik, too.  Note that anything using fontconfig or xft can't use a
font-server anyway.

> Anyway, it seems to me like a relatively sensible thing to do -- it
> means you only need to load font data once between X servers. 

Sure.

> I generally have GDM start up a couple of X servers on boot, so
> there's presumably a saving there. 

Right.

> Likewise, there's probably a time saving in font loading time.
> There'll probably be a delay involved in IPC, but it won't be worse
> than the overhead you already suffer from the X infrastructure. My
> understanding is that the XFree86 X server is single- threaded atm, so
> it's likely that using a font-server would allow you to continue
> interacting with the machine whilst fonts are being loaded.

Yeah.

> The real reason to me though is that there's a fair bit of work involved
> in dealing with fonts. I tend to have heaps of them installed. Having
> the code to do that work in a separate process is a logical division to
> my mind. It buys you stability in that a dodgy font won't take down a
> running X server (well, not necessarily true, but it's another layer to
> get through). You might need to restart your font server, but that's
> acceptable. That can also be automated if need be.

Ok.

> I suppose I can also envisage situations where having a font-server
> would allow you to enforce a site-license for a commercial font. Not an
> issue here I suppose, but it's another reason for maintaining that
> separation.

Sure.

These are all good points, but 99% of desktop users don't run multiple X
servers, aren't trying to circumvent proprietary font licenses, but are
using client-side font-rendering...I know a font server is of use to
some people in fairly specialised situations, but I'm quite surprised
that "desktopy" distros are installing it at all.

So, er, yeah, it was more a "general" why than a "you" why :)

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Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?

[James Gregory]

> These are all good points, but 99% of desktop users don't run multiple X
> servers,

I suspect they will run multiple X processes, just not at once. Logging
in and out of *DM requires an Xserver to be shutdown and started. You
get the same hit there.

> aren't trying to circumvent proprietary font licenses,

the point was that it is more difficult to circumvent such licensing if
there is no need to keep local copies of those fonts. But it's not
really relevant.

> but are
> using client-side font-rendering...I know a font server is of use to
> some people in fairly specialised situations, but I'm quite surprised
> that "desktopy" distros are installing it at all.

Ok. That's a separate question. I suspect it's simply because it's
easier for distributions to have a single, tested configuration that
will deal with all circumstances. It makes no difference to the user at
all -- the installer will install X, and it will know that X depends on
xfs, and xfs will be added to the appropriate runlevels when that
package is installed. It used to be the case that using an X server was
the only way to get TrueType fonts. There's probably been no good reason
to move away from that configuration.

I do however think that the arguments of speed, responsiveness and
stability are pretty important for all users. "Desktopy" or not. Keep in
mind that whether or not your users run multiple X servers, it's pretty
likely that they'll log in more than once. *DM will shut down the X
server in that case, but the font-server will keep running.

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Re: [SLUG] possible bug in libc

[stuartc]

> On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 13:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Long shot, but have you looked in to the possibly that the machines have
> been cracked? Might be worth running chkrootkit over them.

"invader_zim" at "cia.com.au"???

must be cracked!

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Re: [SLUG] X11 Font?

[Rob Weir]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 01:41:39AM +1000, James Gregory said
> > These are all good points, but 99% of desktop users don't run multiple X
> > servers,
> 
> I suspect they will run multiple X processes, just not at once. Logging
> in and out of *DM requires an Xserver to be shutdown and started. You
> get the same hit there.

Hah, I find it very very hard to belive the hit here is measurable, much
less noticable.  But we're both talking out our arses here :-)

> > aren't trying to circumvent proprietary font licenses,
> 
> the point was that it is more difficult to circumvent such licensing if
> there is no need to keep local copies of those fonts. But it's not
> really relevant.

right.

> > but are
> > using client-side font-rendering...I know a font server is of use to
> > some people in fairly specialised situations, but I'm quite surprised
> > that "desktopy" distros are installing it at all.
> 
> Ok. That's a separate question. I suspect it's simply because it's
> easier for distributions to have a single, tested configuration that
> will deal with all circumstances. It makes no difference to the user at
> all -- the installer will install X, and it will know that X depends on
> xfs, and xfs will be added to the appropriate runlevels when that
> package is installed. It used to be the case that using an X server was
> the only way to get TrueType fonts. There's probably been no good reason
> to move away from that configuration.
> 
> I do however think that the arguments of speed, responsiveness and
> stability are pretty important for all users. "Desktopy" or not. Keep in
> mind that whether or not your users run multiple X servers, it's pretty
> likely that they'll log in more than once. *DM will shut down the X
> server in that case, but the font-server will keep running.

Right, but has anyone ever measured the speed, responsiveness and
stability, if any, you get from it?  To me it just seems like an extra
level of indirection and wasted ram, that most apps won't even use
(mozilla, gnome and kde use fontconfig etc now anyway).

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[SLUG] Fedora Font Server [Was: X11 Font?]

[Jeff Waugh]

> Fedora still uses a font server by default?  Why?

I asked about this a while back. Too much work/churn to change it without a
lot of obvious positive impact, I was told. They should blast a can of Free
Software monkeys on it or something.

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[SLUG] Font Server [Was: X11 Font?]

[Jeff Waugh]

> I do however think that the arguments of speed, responsiveness and
> stability are pretty important for all users. "Desktopy" or not. Keep in
> mind that whether or not your users run multiple X servers, it's pretty
> likely that they'll log in more than once. *DM will shut down the X server
> in that case, but the font-server will keep running.

Note that in 99% of cases, no one actually uses fonts served by the fonts
server these days. :-) Client side fonts are the new black, dude.

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[SLUG] Font Server [Was: X11 Font?]

[Jeff Waugh]

> Right, but has anyone ever measured the speed, responsiveness and
> stability, if any, you get from it?  To me it just seems like an extra
> level of indirection and wasted ram, that most apps won't even use
> (mozilla, gnome and kde use fontconfig etc now anyway).

It used to have a huge impact when everyone was using server side fonts,
especially with things like GIMP and office programs, where you tend to have
lots of font rendering going on. With a font server, it would be done out of
the X server process. Bonus.

These days, it's like an appendix. Not useful, but no one's prepared to do
an unnecessary operation to chop it out just yet. Evolution will kill it in
the end.

- Jeff

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[SLUG] Permission to scan!

[Mary Gardiner]

Hi everyone,

I have a BearPaw 1200 CU USB scanner, which is supported under Linux via
the gt68xx sane backend.

Running sane-find-scanner as root finds the scanner:

# sane-find-scanner -q
found USB scanner (vendor=0x05d8, product=0x4002, chip=GT-6801) at libusb:001:005
#

Running sane-find-scanner as a non-root user does not:
$ sane-find-scanner -q
$

sane-find-scanner (without -q) recommends "You may want to run this
program as root to find all devices. Once you found the scanner devices,
be sure to adjust access permissions as necessary." How can I do this?
There is no /dev/scanner file, and adjusting permissions on
/dev/usb/scanner0 didn't help. Which permissions do I need to change?

http://wiki.warwickcompsoc.co.uk/bin/view/UWLUG/UsbScanner suggests
installing the usb permissions daemon. Has anyone used this? Is there a
Debian package?

-Mary
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[SLUG] Web Project Management Software - Calendar, Source Sharing, etc.

[Joel Heenan]

Dear Slug,

I was wondering if sluggers could recommend some software so that myself and
the project team and submit availability calendars and compare times that we
are all available. I guess it needs to be pretty powerful so I can submit my
week schedule and have it know to repeat that and then add once off events.

I would also like some source management software. At the moment I'm looking
at obliquid . Does anyone have any experience with this?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Joel

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[SLUG] Re: Permission to scan!

[Mary Gardiner]

On Tue, Jul 13, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote:
> sane-find-scanner (without -q) recommends "You may want to run this
> program as root to find all devices. Once you found the scanner
> devices, be sure to adjust access permissions as necessary." How can I
> do this?  There is no /dev/scanner file, and adjusting permissions on
> /dev/usb/scanner0 didn't help. Which permissions do I need to change?

OK, adding myself to the "scanner" group works.

-Mary
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Re: [SLUG] Permission to scan!

[Robert Collins]

On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 10:07, Mary Gardiner wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have a BearPaw 1200 CU USB scanner, which is supported under Linux via
> the gt68xx sane backend.
> 
> Running sane-find-scanner as root finds the scanner:
> 
> # sane-find-scanner -q
> found USB scanner (vendor=0x05d8, product=0x4002, chip=GT-6801) at libusb:001:005
> #
> 
> Running sane-find-scanner as a non-root user does not:
> $ sane-find-scanner -q
> $
> 
> sane-find-scanner (without -q) recommends "You may want to run this
> program as root to find all devices. Once you found the scanner devices,
> be sure to adjust access permissions as necessary." How can I do this?
> There is no /dev/scanner file, and adjusting permissions on
> /dev/usb/scanner0 didn't help. Which permissions do I need to change?

strace might tell you.

> http://wiki.warwickcompsoc.co.uk/bin/view/UWLUG/UsbScanner suggests
> installing the usb permissions daemon. Has anyone used this? Is there a
> Debian package?

No idea sorry..

Rob
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Re: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[Mark Paine]

Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
All,
does anybody of you have any pointers to website(s) where I can
read about hosting companies (ie companies hosting your
webserver on a shared server or your own/leased equipment or ...).
I want to find a new hosting company, my current one is no good
(and *NO* currently i dont want to say who and why it is).
I know about whirlpool but the data/discussions/faqs are mostly
about ADSL/braodband connections (my internet connection is **VERY**
stable so I dont need that, *NO* outage since Feb 2003 and
that was my fault then).
I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?
 

Jobst,
I would suggest you to look at  and 
also  for a range of discussions 
and web hosters with an Australian focus.  Of course, there is nothing 
stopping you getting hosting from a US supplier and then the choice 
somewhat explodes...

Mark P.
PS I am with AussieHosts.  See  for 
further details.  Been with them for 2yrs and have had no problems.  
Support is good as well, plus they have been around for a few years so 
they are no fly by nighter either.

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Re: [SLUG] Fedora Font Server [Was: X11 Font?]

[Glen Turner]

On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 02:19, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> > Fedora still uses a font server by default?  Why?
> 
> I asked about this a while back. Too much work/churn to change it without a
> lot of obvious positive impact, I was told. They should blast a can of Free
> Software monkeys on it or something.

Having it distinct might be good for a while longer. I'm still waiting
for someone to write a font server which finds fonts via fontconfig
rather than fonts.dir files.

And, yeah, it would need to convert X font names into PS/TTF font names,
but that would be fine. The operational nightmare is having two distinct
font finding paths and two distinct font installation procedures. [1]

[1] Or more, if you use GhostScript, xpdf and OpenOffice.

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RE: [SLUG] Fedora Font Server [Was: X11 Font?]

[Rowling, Jill]

Just to confuse the issue, CAD packages sometimes use their own defined
"fonts" which are actually icons used in the application.
You copy them manually onto the workstation. In my case, the application
runs on the (Unix) server and displays to the (Linux) workstation.
If you couldn't copy them to the workstation you would have to use the X
font server on the Unix server and that would be pretty slow (double
redirection and image generation on the server).

Cheers,

Jill.

-Original Message-
From: Glen Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2004 11:49 AM
To: Jeff Waugh
Cc: Slug
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Fedora Font Server [Was: X11 Font?]


On Tue, 2004-07-13 at 02:19, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> 
> > Fedora still uses a font server by default?  Why?
> 
> I asked about this a while back. Too much work/churn to change it 
> without a lot of obvious positive impact, I was told. They should 
> blast a can of Free Software monkeys on it or something.

Having it distinct might be good for a while longer. I'm still waiting for
someone to write a font server which finds fonts via fontconfig rather than
fonts.dir files.

And, yeah, it would need to convert X font names into PS/TTF font names, but
that would be fine. The operational nightmare is having two distinct font
finding paths and two distinct font installation procedures. [1]

[1] Or more, if you use GhostScript, xpdf and OpenOffice.

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[SLUG] LPI Certification Exams

[Geoffrey Robertson]

We have a small "exam-fest" sheduled for the evening of 
Wednesday the 21st July 2004 at Granville TAFE.  Starting 17:30.

Cost AU$40 per exam (Cheques made out to Linux Australia)

The exams being held are:
LPIC 101 (Debian)
LPIC 101 (RedHat)
LPIC 102

This will be the last chance for a while.  I will be shredding all the
exam papers remaining in Australia after this sitting.

Email me real soon if you want to book a place.  See header for address.

Could a kind committee dude crosspost this msg to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for me.
Cross posting to other suitable lists also appreciated.

tnx
Geoffrey
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Re: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[Matthew Palmer]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 09:36:56PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jobst Schmalenbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 07:05:57PM +1000, Luke Yelavich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:22:08PM EST, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> > > > I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?
> > > 
> > > AFAIK, WebCentral are a Windows-based hosting company. I guess you are after
> > > a Linux-based host?
> > 
> > I saw them providun RedHat 9 based servers .. so I assumed they are mixed.
> > And yes it must be *unix based.
> 
> Think they run their Linux servers under Microsoft's virtual server...

Well, that's one way to guarantee poor uptime on your Linux boxes.

- Matt
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[SLUG] forcing anaconda to change graphics/video driver from "Sis 530" to Sis 620"

[The Salisburys]

 
Hi all
 
A challenge for the tech heads.
 
On my redhat 7.3 machine the video SIS 620 device 
is detected as a SIS 530 device. 
(I don't want to upgrade ) (Yes debian detects it 
OK)
 
The SIS530 does work but not very well. Causes 
"distortion" in some parts of the display.
 
The driver obviously needs to be the sis620 driver 
rather than the sis530 driver.
 
Any idea how to overide the erroneous default 
installation.
 
TIA
 
Roger
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Looking for a hosting service provider

[Geoffrey Robertson]

I run a couple of off shore web servers and rent space at AU$100 per
year.  I run these at very low loading with 300GB spare disk space
and 2TB / month spare transfer.

Geoffrey

On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 07:05:57PM +1000, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2004 at 06:22:08PM EST, Jobst Schmalenbach wrote:
> > I heard about a company called "Web Central", are they any good?
> 
> AFAIK, WebCentral are a Windows-based hosting company. I guess you are after
> a Linux-based host?
> 
> Luke
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