Re: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems
andrew fries message regarding lilo twiged me to what might be going on, I am sure that linux software raid writes some thing to the disk? does hotadd add this? if it doesnt the raid wont recognise it.? On 19/07/2004, at 1:26 PM, Dean Hamstead wrote: it may be time to replace the whole original array 3x40 gigs isnt much any more, so you might want to dump it off to tape and make the raid5 again from scratch with the new disks seeing as one has died it may be the beginings of more deaths so replacing them all now might save problems in the future. Dean Rowling, Jill wrote: I wonder if it would come up OK if you formatted and partitioned only 40GB of the new disk, and used the other 40GB as a spare logical drive? That is, trick the hardware into thinking it has three 40 GB disks again. I recently had to replace both halves of a mirrored array (RAID-1 on Solaris/SPARC) because I could not buy the same hardware that was originally installed. I wonder if RAID-5 is similar? The only time I've ever heard of different types of disks used in a RAID system is when people make up a RAID-0 stripe from JBOD. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Chris Henman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 19 July 2004 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems Dear All, I have a RAID-5 array consisting of three 40GB disks (ext3) on a machine running Redhat 3.0ES. Recently one of the three disks failed; hdf. All continued happily on two disks. Yeterday I bought some new disks; 3 x 80GBs. I replaced the bad disk with a new one, formated and partioned the new disk and did a raidhotadd. All seemed well, see copy of lsraid -A -a md0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lsraid -A -a /dev/md0 [dev 9, 0] /dev/md0 02EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 online [dev 33, 1] /dev/hde102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 33, 65] /dev/hdf102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 34, 1] /dev/hdg102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good until I rebooted. hdf was missing. I did another raidhotadd and all was well again. I waited until the disks had completely resynced and tried again. Same result. Below are raidtab and fstab, neither of which have been altered by me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 5 nr-raid-disks 3 chunk-size 64k persistent-superblock 1 nr-spare-disks 0 device /dev/hde1 raid-disk 0 device /dev/hdf1 raid-disk 1 device /dev/hdg1 raid-disk 2 also, fstab is quite straightforward. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat fstab LABEL=/ / ext3defaults 1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults 1 2 none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/md0/home ext3defaults 1 2 none/proc procdefaults 0 0 none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hda3 swapswapdefaults 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 Any suggestions as to why? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems
it may be time to replace the whole original array 3x40 gigs isnt much any more, so you might want to dump it off to tape and make the raid5 again from scratch with the new disks seeing as one has died it may be the beginings of more deaths so replacing them all now might save problems in the future. Dean Rowling, Jill wrote: I wonder if it would come up OK if you formatted and partitioned only 40GB of the new disk, and used the other 40GB as a spare logical drive? That is, trick the hardware into thinking it has three 40 GB disks again. I recently had to replace both halves of a mirrored array (RAID-1 on Solaris/SPARC) because I could not buy the same hardware that was originally installed. I wonder if RAID-5 is similar? The only time I've ever heard of different types of disks used in a RAID system is when people make up a RAID-0 stripe from JBOD. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Chris Henman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 19 July 2004 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems Dear All, I have a RAID-5 array consisting of three 40GB disks (ext3) on a machine running Redhat 3.0ES. Recently one of the three disks failed; hdf. All continued happily on two disks. Yeterday I bought some new disks; 3 x 80GBs. I replaced the bad disk with a new one, formated and partioned the new disk and did a raidhotadd. All seemed well, see copy of lsraid -A -a md0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lsraid -A -a /dev/md0 [dev 9, 0] /dev/md0 02EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 online [dev 33, 1] /dev/hde102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 33, 65] /dev/hdf102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 34, 1] /dev/hdg102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good until I rebooted. hdf was missing. I did another raidhotadd and all was well again. I waited until the disks had completely resynced and tried again. Same result. Below are raidtab and fstab, neither of which have been altered by me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 5 nr-raid-disks 3 chunk-size 64k persistent-superblock 1 nr-spare-disks 0 device /dev/hde1 raid-disk 0 device /dev/hdf1 raid-disk 1 device /dev/hdg1 raid-disk 2 also, fstab is quite straightforward. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat fstab LABEL=/ / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults1 2 none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/md0/home ext3defaults1 2 none/proc procdefaults0 0 none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 /dev/hda3 swapswapdefaults0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 Any suggestions as to why? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FW: Configuring LILO after installing Linux (Dual boot setup)
On Monday 19 July 2004 11:03 am, Steve Drinkald wrote: > Hi group, > I'm a very green newbie, so I apologise in advance for asking a dumb > question. I have a Debian Linux "Morphix" install CD which I have used to > install onto my new laptop. I partitioned my hard drive and installed > windows XP pro on one primary partition (which includes the MBR) and Linux > onto the other primary partition. I installed LILO as part of the Debian > install, and put it on the boot sector of the Linux drive. > > When I start my PC, it goes straight into XP (as this is where the MBR is) > and I don't get an option to select Linux. I don't believe LILO has been > configured yet on Linux, but I can't seem to get to Linux on the HDD. If I > boot off the Linux CD, then I am operating on the CD system, if I boot the > PC, I load up XP. What steps do I have to perform to be able to get to a > dual boot situation. James' post tells you how to fix this situation, I'll just try to explain in small words what happened here. MBR is not the part of your primary partition, or any other partitions; it's the first couple of sectors on your HD, even *before* partitions start. So now you've still got Windows bootloader sitting there, while lilo is the beginning of your Linux partition. Trouble is, lilo will never be found there - not by Windows bootloader anyway, since it doesn't want to know about any other OSs. What you should've done, is tell lilo to install in MBR. This would mean lilo takes over all booting duties on your system; you'd have to then configure it to boot Windows as well as Morphix. That option of putting lilo at the beginning of root partition is really only useful in cases where you've already got another sensible bootloader handling the process and you don't want to replace it. Windows bootloader is not sensible. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems
Rowling, Jill wrote: The only time I've ever heard of different types of disks used in a RAID system is when people make up a RAID-0 stripe from JBOD. Or the space cadet who created a RAID-5 with Disksuite (Solaris software RAID for the uninitiated) with 2 drives: 1 x 4Gb 1 x 8Gb (sliced as 2 x 4Gb) Presto!! 3 x 4Gb partitions, RAID-5 configured as one meta device ...unf. This provided 8Gb of startling redundancy and speed. "Startling" being the operative word when I inherited the machine from aforementioned space cadet. -- James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems
I wonder if it would come up OK if you formatted and partitioned only 40GB of the new disk, and used the other 40GB as a spare logical drive? That is, trick the hardware into thinking it has three 40 GB disks again. I recently had to replace both halves of a mirrored array (RAID-1 on Solaris/SPARC) because I could not buy the same hardware that was originally installed. I wonder if RAID-5 is similar? The only time I've ever heard of different types of disks used in a RAID system is when people make up a RAID-0 stripe from JBOD. Cheers, Jill. -Original Message- From: Chris Henman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 19 July 2004 12:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] RAID-5 array problems Dear All, I have a RAID-5 array consisting of three 40GB disks (ext3) on a machine running Redhat 3.0ES. Recently one of the three disks failed; hdf. All continued happily on two disks. Yeterday I bought some new disks; 3 x 80GBs. I replaced the bad disk with a new one, formated and partioned the new disk and did a raidhotadd. All seemed well, see copy of lsraid -A -a md0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lsraid -A -a /dev/md0 [dev 9, 0] /dev/md0 02EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 online [dev 33, 1] /dev/hde102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 33, 65] /dev/hdf102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 34, 1] /dev/hdg102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good until I rebooted. hdf was missing. I did another raidhotadd and all was well again. I waited until the disks had completely resynced and tried again. Same result. Below are raidtab and fstab, neither of which have been altered by me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 5 nr-raid-disks 3 chunk-size 64k persistent-superblock 1 nr-spare-disks 0 device /dev/hde1 raid-disk 0 device /dev/hdf1 raid-disk 1 device /dev/hdg1 raid-disk 2 also, fstab is quite straightforward. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat fstab LABEL=/ / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults1 2 none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/md0/home ext3defaults1 2 none/proc procdefaults0 0 none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 /dev/hda3 swapswapdefaults0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 Any suggestions as to why? -- Chris Henman RedBox microSystems ABN 70 946 135 312 Phone: +61 2 6161 4640 Mobile: 0421 597 333 Powered by Linux - Democracy in Information Technology. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- IMPORTANT NOTICES This email (including any documents referred to in, or attached, to this email) may contain information that is personal, confidential or the subject of copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties. This email is intended only for the named addressee. Any privacy, confidence, copyright or other proprietary rights in favour of Aristocrat, its affiliates or third parties, is not lost because this email was sent to you by mistake. If you received this email by mistake you should: (i) not copy, disclose, distribute or otherwise use it, or its contents, without the consent of Aristocrat or the owner of the relevant rights; (ii) let us know of the mistake by reply email or by telephone (+61 2 9413 6300); and (iii) delete it from your system and destroy all copies. Any personal information contained in this email must be handled in accordance with applicable privacy laws. Electronic and internet communications can be interfered with or affected by viruses and other defects. As a result, such communications may not be successfully received or, if received, may cause interference with the integrity of receiving, processing or related systems (including hardware, software and data or information on, or using, that hardware or software). Aristocrat gives no assurances in relation to these matters. If you have any doubts about the veracity or integrity of any electronic communication we appear to have sent you, please call +61 2 9413 6300 for clarification. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - ht
[SLUG] RAID-5 array problems
Dear All, I have a RAID-5 array consisting of three 40GB disks (ext3) on a machine running Redhat 3.0ES. Recently one of the three disks failed; hdf. All continued happily on two disks. Yeterday I bought some new disks; 3 x 80GBs. I replaced the bad disk with a new one, formated and partioned the new disk and did a raidhotadd. All seemed well, see copy of lsraid -A -a md0. [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# lsraid -A -a /dev/md0 [dev 9, 0] /dev/md0 02EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 online [dev 33, 1] /dev/hde102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 33, 65] /dev/hdf102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good [dev 34, 1] /dev/hdg102EF0419.559F377C.34A1ABA4.2AAE1C59 good until I rebooted. hdf was missing. I did another raidhotadd and all was well again. I waited until the disks had completely resynced and tried again. Same result. Below are raidtab and fstab, neither of which have been altered by me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat raidtab raiddev /dev/md0 raid-level 5 nr-raid-disks 3 chunk-size 64k persistent-superblock 1 nr-spare-disks 0 device /dev/hde1 raid-disk 0 device /dev/hdf1 raid-disk 1 device /dev/hdg1 raid-disk 2 also, fstab is quite straightforward. [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# cat fstab LABEL=/ / ext3defaults1 1 LABEL=/boot /boot ext3defaults1 2 none/dev/ptsdevpts gid=5,mode=620 0 0 /dev/md0/home ext3defaults1 2 none/proc procdefaults0 0 none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 /dev/hda3 swapswapdefaults0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660 noauto,owner,kudzu,ro 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto noauto,owner,kudzu 0 0 Any suggestions as to why? -- Chris Henman RedBox microSystems ABN 70 946 135 312 Phone: +61 2 6161 4640 Mobile: 0421 597 333 Powered by Linux - Democracy in Information Technology. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Configuring LILO after installing Linux (Dual boot setup)
Steve Drinkald wrote: Hi group, I'm a very green newbie, so I apologise in advance for asking a dumb question. I have a Debian Linux "Morphix" install CD which I have used to install onto my new laptop. I partitioned my hard drive and installed windows XP pro on one primary partition (which includes the MBR) and Linux onto the other primary partition. I installed LILO as part of the Debian install, and put it on the boot sector of the Linux drive. When I start my PC, it goes straight into XP (as this is where the MBR is) and I don't get an option to select Linux. I don't believe LILO has been configured yet on Linux, but I can't seem to get to Linux on the HDD. If I boot off the Linux CD, then I am operating on the CD system, if I boot the PC, I load up XP. What steps do I have to perform to be able to get to a dual boot situation. Thanks in advance for the assistance. Steve Hi Steve, Firstly, please set your e-mail format to plain text for this list :) Many of us use non-GUI mail readers and "pretty" HTML/Rich-Text just looks god-awful :P Now as for lilo, you are correct - Lilo needs to be installed in the boot sector. This is pretty easy to do, just grab your linux boot disk (you did make one during the install when it asked you to, right?) and boot your linux partition. Once booted, log in as root and do the following: 1. Backup your existing /etc/lilo.conf file: cp /etc/lilo.conf /etc/lilo.conf-001 2. Edit /etc/lilo.conf with your preferred text editor (nano/joe/vi/emacs etc...) 2. Find the line that reads "boot = /dev/hdaX" where X is a number, and change it to "boot = /dev/hda". This will install lilo in the MBR rather than a linux partition. 3. Now scroll down a bit, make sure you have a "delay=NN" line. This will cause lilo to wait "NN x 10" seconds before booting the default (see #4). In other words, "NN" are tenths of a second. 4. Make sure you have (at least) one "image" stanza to boot linux and one "other" stanza to boot Windows. Use the following as a guide: default=Linux image=/vmlinuz # "label" is what "default" uses. label=Linux read-only # Careful with this - make sure it exists first! initrd=/initrd.img # If you have another OS on this machine to boot, you can uncomment the # following lines, changing the device name on the `other' line to # where your other OS' partition is. other=/dev/hda1 # Change "default=Windows" to automatically # boot Windows instead label=Windows 5. Save your changes to lilo.conf 6. RUN LILO!! Something like "lilo -v" without the "". Somewhere in all the stuff that is displayed should be a line: Reading boot sector from /dev/hda and some other stuff like this: Boot image: /vmlinuz Mapping RAM disk /initrd.img Added Linux * Added Windows (the * means "this is the default") 7. Reboot - you should get the lilo boot menu where you can select Windows or Linux :) That's it :) Now if you didn't make a boot disk - get back to us, we can give another set of destructions to boot from an install disk and use "rescue" mode, then mount your installed partitions, then "chroot" etc. Make sure you tell us what you disk layout looks like! Something like this would be REALLY handy: /dev/hda1 = Windows /dev/hda2 = root / /dev/hda3 = SWAP Cheers, James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] FW: Configuring LILO after installing Linux (Dual boot setup)
Probably the quickest way to fix this problem is: 1) put morphix cd in drive and boot from it 2) when in morphix fire up a console and log in as root 3) check to make sure that your OS partitions have been mounted, and if not, then for eg if /dev/hda3 is /, /dev/hda1 is /boot, etc, then just do: mkdir /morphix mount /dev/hda3 /morphix mount /dev/hda1 /morphix/boot so basically you just want to make sure your harddrive install's root partition and boot partition are accessible. now lets assume they ARE mounted on /morphix (and if not substitute where they are for that in what I am about to say): 4) chroot /morphix /bin/bash 5) vi /etc/lilo.conf (assuming that you use vi - else substitute pico or whatever) 6) whilst in the lilo.conf file just look at it and make sure it is set to boot your windows drive - if not set that up (and that really depends on what you installed first, but it sounds like you did morphix first - NEVER let windows get a chance to fiddle with the bootsector if you want to dual boot - always do windows first and everything else last). its easy to set up but off the top of my head I couldn't tell you how - just google for +"dual boot" +"lilo.conf" and you will find examples. 7) **MOST IMPORTANT STEP** (and this is really all we booted and chrooted for): run 'lilo'. and it will rewrite your bootsector - including the entry for windows if you set it up properly in the lilo.conf. if this is your only system, or you'd prefer to be running linux whilst you worked on this, don't even worry about the windows lilo entry... just chroot to your morphix partition, and run /sbin/lilo - and the bootsector will be restored. then boot into linux and google for the windows info (or maybe by then someone on this list will post that part of their own config - I don't use windows though). then you can add it to your lilo.conf and run lilo (to rewrite MBR) at your leisure :) I hope this was clear - I know i waffled a bit. in summary: 1) boot from CD 2) ensure your root partition is mounted (and so is /boot if its seperate) 3) # chroot /path/to/morphix /bin/bash 4) # /sbin/lilo 5) # reboot and that will install lilo, and you can go from there adding windows to lilo :) good luck James On Monday 19 July 2004 11:03, Steve Drinkald wrote: > Hi group, > I'm a very green newbie, so I apologise in advance for asking a dumb > question. I have a Debian Linux "Morphix" install CD which I have used to > install onto my new laptop. I partitioned my hard drive and installed > windows XP pro on one primary partition (which includes the MBR) and Linux > onto the other primary partition. I installed LILO as part of the Debian > install, and put it on the boot sector of the Linux drive. > > When I start my PC, it goes straight into XP (as this is where the MBR is) > and I don't get an option to select Linux. I don't believe LILO has been > configured yet on Linux, but I can't seem to get to Linux on the HDD. If I > boot off the Linux CD, then I am operating on the CD system, if I boot the > PC, I load up XP. What steps do I have to perform to be able to get to a > dual boot situation. > > Thanks in advance for the assistance. > Steve > > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > > ---Safe > Stamp--- Your Anti-virus Service scanned > this email. It is safe from known viruses. For more information regarding > this service, please contact your service provider. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] FW: Configuring LILO after installing Linux (Dual boot setup)
Hi group, I'm a very green newbie, so I apologise in advance for asking a dumb question. I have a Debian Linux "Morphix" install CD which I have used to install onto my new laptop. I partitioned my hard drive and installed windows XP pro on one primary partition (which includes the MBR) and Linux onto the other primary partition. I installed LILO as part of the Debian install, and put it on the boot sector of the Linux drive. When I start my PC, it goes straight into XP (as this is where the MBR is) and I don't get an option to select Linux. I don't believe LILO has been configured yet on Linux, but I can't seem to get to Linux on the HDD. If I boot off the Linux CD, then I am operating on the CD system, if I boot the PC, I load up XP. What steps do I have to perform to be able to get to a dual boot situation. Thanks in advance for the assistance. Steve -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Configuring LILO after installing Linux (Dual boot setup)
Hi group, I'm a very green newbie, so I apologise in advance for asking a dumb question. I have a Debian Linux "Morphix" install CD which I have used to install onto my new laptop. I partitioned my hard drive and installed windows XP pro on one primary partition (which includes the MBR) and Linux onto the other primary partition. I installed LILO as part of the Debian install, and put it on the boot sector of the Linux drive. When I start my PC, it goes straight into XP (as this is where the MBR is) and I don't get an option to select Linux. I don't believe LILO has been configured yet on Linux, but I can't seem to get to Linux on the HDD. If I boot off the Linux CD, then I am operating on the CD system, if I boot the PC, I load up XP. What steps do I have to perform to be able to get to a dual boot situation. Thanks in advance for the assistance. Steve Steve Drinkald Systems Integration Specialist Camms Systems Integration Mobile: 0418 841 112 Company: 08 8444 5111 Fax: 08 8268 8599 Int. 04 => +614, 08 => +618 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.camms.com.au Camms 346 Torrens Road Croydon Park SOUTH AUSTRALIA 5008 This e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally privileged and/or copyright information of Camms or third parties. If you are not an authorised recipient of this e-mail, please contact the sender immediately and do not print, re-transmit or store this email or any attachments. Any loss/damage incurred by using this material is not the sender's responsibility. <>-- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ssh and X forwarding woes.
On Fri, 2004-07-16 at 14:17, Jan Schmidt wrote: > > > > Can anyone shed any light on this as I am going completely mad! > > > > Make sure that xbase-clients is installed on the machine you're ssh'ing into > - xauth is required on the destination machine. Hurrah it works! Thanks for that. rgh > > J. > -- > Jan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > It is hard to believe that a man is telling the truth when you know that you would > lie if you were in his place. - H.L. Mencken -- "In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is." -- Yogi Berra Richard Heycock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tel : 0410 646 369 key fingerprint : 909D CBFA C669 AC2F A937 AFA4 661B 9D21 EAAB 4291 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] find help
change it to an alias. at least you wouldn't need to type the entire line out. On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 22:16 +1000, James Gregory wrote: Hi all, I just tried to use the 'find' command to locate for me all files on a filesystem that were modified on a given date. I have just discovered that this is a moderately difficult problem. 'man find' tells me that there are atime, ctime and mtime options but they only let me specify time relative to today in hours. I can see that I potentially could construct a find query with these tools and judicious use of -a and '!', but that can't be the simplest way. So far I've got this: find . -printf "%Cd-%Cm-%CY\t%h/%f\n" | grep '^06-07-2004' | perl -pe 's/^.*\t//;' Which is *hideous*. Tell me there's a better way. And I don't mean by substituting 'sed' for 'perl -pe'. James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] FTA cross-industry press conference
Hi all, Just a quick note from your friendly Linux Australia type person :) Due to recent talks between Linux Australia and several other industry representatives, we are lucky enough to now be involved in a cross-industry press conference this Wednesday. It will be at 11am, in the Jubilee room at Parliament House, Macquarie St, Sydney. We have reps from IT, the Health as well as the Media indsutries with many concerns to be expressed, including common areas of concern such as IP. The scary thing is that some of these groups have been involved with the FTA discussion for 2 years, they were at the drawing table and still received the sharp end of the stick. We are at a significant disadvantage because they _are_ the peak bodies of their industries, whereas in IT, Australian focused organisations like us are expressing concerns, and some of the bigger IT organisations have a lot of foreign companies on the board, of whom don't have to worry about the changes so much and so are embracing the FTA. It has been amusing to watch some of the orgs put out statements supporting the FTA and then withdraw their comments upon research ;) Anyway, our politicians are getting mixed messages from us which is frustrating. I hope that anyone concerned with this stuff has sent letters, or at least called their local members. They can't protect you from that which they don't understand. I'm not sure how public the press conference should be, it isn't being organised by us, however some support there would certainly be helpful :) Cheers all, Pia -- Pia Smith President of Linux Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] find help
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 00:11 +1000, Ben de Luca wrote: > Cant be bothered testing its late and i am reading this with literally > one eye open but how about using -ctime twice? > > some thing like find ./path -ctime +11 -ctime -12 -type f > > as i understand it that should find files greater than 11 days and less > that 12? > hmm to lazy to test it properly sorry yeah, you can do that. That's what I originally planned to do. You need a '-a' to make it work. Find has a '-daystart' to make both of those options be rounded to day boundaries, but I'm really looking for something where I can actually specify the date, rather than having to actually think about how many days ago it was. It'd be straightforward to write, so I guess I'll write a function and add it to my .bashrc. I'm just astonished that find doesn't provide some mechanism for this on its own. Thanks for the help, everyone. James. -- James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] find help
Cant be bothered testing its late and i am reading this with literally one eye open but how about using -ctime twice? some thing like find ./path -ctime +11 -ctime -12 -type f as i understand it that should find files greater than 11 days and less that 12? hmm to lazy to test it properly sorry oh and ofcouse its hideous its using perl! On 18/07/2004, at 10:45 PM, James Gregory wrote: On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 22:16 +1000, James Gregory wrote: Hi all, I just tried to use the 'find' command to locate for me all files on a filesystem that were modified on a given date. I have just discovered that this is a moderately difficult problem. 'man find' tells me that there are atime, ctime and mtime options but they only let me specify time relative to today in hours. I can see that I potentially could construct a find query with these tools and judicious use of -a and '!', but that can't be the simplest way. So far I've got this: find . -printf "%Cd-%Cm-%CY\t%h/%f\n" | grep '^06-07-2004' | perl -pe 's/^.*\t//;' Which is *hideous*. Tell me there's a better way. And I don't mean by substituting 'sed' for 'perl -pe'. James. -- James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] WG311 with mandrake!!!
Steven, If you have an Atheros based chipset you will have to use the MadWifi driver, http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ I believe. If you perform an lspci you should be able to see your card come up with a string as unrecognised, using google with this string will prove you need this type of driver. I do have the Madwifi driver working under Mandrake 10 on an IBM laptop. Phil On Sat, 2004-07-17 at 23:22, Steven Chang-Lin Yu wrote: > Thanks for everyone's email regarding netgear WG311 under mandrake, > however I still not really sure about what I am doing, it seems that > the ahtone in the wireless section when the new hardware doesn't > support the wg311 at all, I can't get it to auto probe the card!!! > can some one tell me step by step what I need to do? > > Thanks > > Steven > > __ > Steven Chang-Lin Yu > UNSW MEngSc of Telecommunications > Computer Technician > ICQ#: 66369374 > > Current ICQ status: > > ( Home Tel#: +61 0401043641 > ( Work Tel#: +61 0401043641 > + More ways to contact me >Get ICQ! > __ > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 16/07/2004 > > > > > __ > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] find help
On Sun, 2004-07-18 at 22:16 +1000, James Gregory wrote: > Hi all, > > I just tried to use the 'find' command to locate for me all files on a > filesystem that were modified on a given date. I have just discovered > that this is a moderately difficult problem. 'man find' tells me that > there are atime, ctime and mtime options but they only let me specify > time relative to today in hours. I can see that I potentially could > construct a find query with these tools and judicious use of -a and '!', > but that can't be the simplest way. So far I've got this: find . -printf "%Cd-%Cm-%CY\t%h/%f\n" | grep '^06-07-2004' | perl -pe 's/^.*\t//;' Which is *hideous*. Tell me there's a better way. And I don't mean by substituting 'sed' for 'perl -pe'. James. -- James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] find help
James, If I want to find a file all I do is find [path] -name [filename] ie if I want to find an ogg file all I do is find /image -name *.ogg This will list all files with ogg files. Hi all, I just tried to use the 'find' command to locate for me all files on a filesystem that were modified on a given date. I have just discovered that this is a moderately difficult problem. 'man find' tells me that there are atime, ctime and mtime options but they only let me specify time relative to today in hours. I can see that I potentially could construct a find query with these tools and judicious use of -a and '!', but that can't be the simplest way. I also checked the gnome find tool thing fearing that I had just become incapable of reading manpages but discovered to my shock that it can't do it either. Anyone have any ideas on this? Thanks, James. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] find help
On 18/07/2004, at 10:16 PM, James Gregory wrote:
I just tried to use the 'find' command to locate for me all files on a
filesystem that were modified on a given date. I have just discovered
that this is a moderately difficult problem. 'man find' tells me that
there are atime, ctime and mtime options but they only let me specify
time relative to today in hours. I can see that I potentially could
construct a find query with these tools and judicious use of -a and
'!',
but that can't be the simplest way.
Quickest way I found to do this (hacky but quick) was
find . -ls | egrep "Jul 18"
I think all modern versions of find support '-ls', if yours doesn't,
try '-exec ls -l {} \;' instead.
Remember that 'ls' pads the date, so "Jul 1" is "Jul 1" (two spaces).
Greeno
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[SLUG] find help
Hi all, I just tried to use the 'find' command to locate for me all files on a filesystem that were modified on a given date. I have just discovered that this is a moderately difficult problem. 'man find' tells me that there are atime, ctime and mtime options but they only let me specify time relative to today in hours. I can see that I potentially could construct a find query with these tools and judicious use of -a and '!', but that can't be the simplest way. I also checked the gnome find tool thing fearing that I had just become incapable of reading manpages but discovered to my shock that it can't do it either. Anyone have any ideas on this? Thanks, James. -- James Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Anyone using linux PDAs?
Anyone using linux PDA's? Would like to get one, definitely want wireless. If you have one, what is it, do you like it, does it have cool utils, whats it run on, what did it cost etc? Are there hidden costs etc. General opinions wanted. Thx -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
