Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL modem recommendation

2004-07-27 Thread Voytek

Phillipus Gunawan said:
> I've got a client using telstra ADSL, 1g/month.
> Currently they using modem supplied by telstra, its a
> DASL-with RJ45 output.
> I've been asked to replace this old modem with a
> router so they can connect to internet without
> depended on 1 computer-must-be-on (as the Internet
> sharing)
> Any telstra-experienced can give me an advice about
> the router with built in ADSL modem? I know telstra
> always put some sortof software and a bit tricky to
> handle.

I have used Dlink 704P on several ocassions, with T ADSL, with no probs

(though, I'm having probs with T BP Cable and 704, and, suspect the
heartbeat problem)

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Re: [SLUG] Telstra ADSL modem recommendation

2004-07-27 Thread Chris Deigan
quote("Phillipus Gunawan");
>Any telstra-experienced can give me an advice about
>the router with built in ADSL modem? I know telstra
>always put some sortof software and a bit tricky to
>handle.

AFAIK, Telstra use standard PPPoE for ADSL.

No heartbeat or anything as such.

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[SLUG] Telstra ADSL modem recommendation

2004-07-27 Thread Phillipus Gunawan
G'day,

I've got a client using telstra ADSL, 1g/month.
Currently they using modem supplied by telstra, its a
DASL-with RJ45 output.

I've been asked to replace this old modem with a
router so they can connect to internet without
depended on 1 computer-must-be-on (as the Internet
sharing)

Any telstra-experienced can give me an advice about
the router with built in ADSL modem? I know telstra
always put some sortof software and a bit tricky to
handle.

Thanks for the answer.




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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Morning Herald Article

2004-07-27 Thread Andrewd
But by 8.13 (just checked) it is there.
Andrew D

On Wed, 2004-07-28 at 07:39, Luke Yelavich wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:50:26PM EST, Andrewd wrote:
> > Or you could always use the link www.smh.com.au/text for all the news
> > without those annoying ads (usually a single small ad in the corner
> > only) or equally annoying register please pages
> 
> As far as I can tell, the text page is not updated with the latest articles as
> soon as they come up on the front page. For example, the emergency at the
> airport story wasn't on the text-only site when I tried to look for it there.
> 
> Luke

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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Morning Herald Article

2004-07-27 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 11:50:26PM EST, Andrewd wrote:
> Or you could always use the link www.smh.com.au/text for all the news
> without those annoying ads (usually a single small ad in the corner
> only) or equally annoying register please pages

As far as I can tell, the text page is not updated with the latest articles as
soon as they come up on the front page. For example, the emergency at the
airport story wasn't on the text-only site when I tried to look for it there.

Luke

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Re: [SLUG] Debian auto-logouts

2004-07-27 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:35:38 +1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harald Richard Ashburner) wrote:


> Hi Alan,
> Stab in the dark, are you running xscreensaver?
> if so, have a look at your $HOME/.xscreensaver file
> the first four entries are the interesting ones. I can't remember
> which, but one of these was set to 2 minutes, so I upped it to 10
> hours and haven't had a problem since.
> setting it to zero might disable it altogether, not sure.
> 
> 
> timeout:10:00:00
> cycle:  0:01:00
> lock:   False
> lockTimeout:10:00:00
> 
> I think it might have been "lockTimeout 00:02:00 or something I
> remember trying to see if it was a gui setting and not finding one
> until I saw it in the file.
> 
> But this may not be your problem at all.

Sigh - thanks for the effort, but no .xscreensaver. I only installed
this system two days ago and I have never had any experience with Debian
(love it though!). I'm very happy with the whole installation except for
this one nagging problem.

Thanks,
A

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Re: [SLUG] Debian auto-logouts

2004-07-27 Thread Harald Richard Ashburner
Alan L Tyree said:
>On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:04:48 +1000
>Jan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:10:11 +1000
>> > Chris Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > >From /var/log/messages:
>> > 
>> > Jul 27 16:13:50 windy -- MARK --
>> > Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): GConf server is not in
>> > use, shutting down.
>> > Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): Exiting
>> > Jul 27 16:33:50 windy -- MARK --
>> > Jul 27 16:34:02 windy gconfd (alant-7234): starting (version 1.0.9),
>> > pid 7234 us er 'alant'
>> > 
>> > So it seems like gconfd is logging me out. it does a -- MARK --
>> > every 20 min.
>> > 
>> > I don't seem to have any documentation on gconf.
>> 
>> No, that's gconf shutting down BECAUSE you've logged out and there is
>> no longer any clients.
>
>Oh - so where do I look to find out what is logging me out? Is this a
>Debian or an IceWm problem (if it is a problem)?
>
Hi Alan,
Stab in the dark, are you running xscreensaver?
if so, have a look at your $HOME/.xscreensaver file
the first four entries are the interesting ones. I can't remember
which, but one of these was set to 2 minutes, so I upped it to 10 hours
and haven't had a problem since.
setting it to zero might disable it altogether, not sure.


timeout:10:00:00
cycle:  0:01:00
lock:   False
lockTimeout:10:00:00

I think it might have been "lockTimeout 00:02:00 or something I remember
trying to see if it was a gui setting and not finding one until I saw it
in the file.

But this may not be your problem at all.
Best of luck.
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Re: [SLUG] Apache Queries

2004-07-27 Thread Kevin Saenz
After building a reverse proxy with authentication, and including 
various tags
I found that authentication would be requested on every image or page 
downloaded.
So far I have not found a solution. At this stage I disabled authentication.

I've set up apache on my linux firewall to reverse proxy for a web 
server on nat'd internal network with these conf entries;

ProxyRequests off
ProxyPass / http://192.168.1.100/
ProxyPassReverse / http://192.168.1.100/
Two things are a problem.
Firstly authenticated pages don't work. I don't mean https 443,
I'm just talking about a page that prompts for a username and password.
Secondly, the logging on the web server (192.168.1.100) only shows one
very active user (the internal ip of the firewall 192.168.1.1) rather 
than the actual source. Is this just a fact of life or is there some
apache magic that will allow the address infomation to be passed 
without messing with the routing?

TIA's
Pete.
P.S I've been trolling the apache doco but don't seem to be using the 
right words in the search as I'm getting a lot of chaf back and not much
info, a link to a relevant RTFM much appreciated.

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Re: [SLUG] Debian auto-logouts

2004-07-27 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:04:48 +1000
Jan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> > On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:10:11 +1000
> > Chris Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >From /var/log/messages:
> > 
> > Jul 27 16:13:50 windy -- MARK --
> > Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): GConf server is not in
> > use, shutting down.
> > Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): Exiting
> > Jul 27 16:33:50 windy -- MARK --
> > Jul 27 16:34:02 windy gconfd (alant-7234): starting (version 1.0.9),
> > pid 7234 us er 'alant'
> > 
> > So it seems like gconfd is logging me out. it does a -- MARK --
> > every 20 min.
> > 
> > I don't seem to have any documentation on gconf.
> 
> No, that's gconf shutting down BECAUSE you've logged out and there is
> no longer any clients.

Oh - so where do I look to find out what is logging me out? Is this a
Debian or an IceWm problem (if it is a problem)?

Thanks,
Alan

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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Morning Herald Article

2004-07-27 Thread Andrewd
Or you could always use the link www.smh.com.au/text for all the news
without those annoying ads (usually a single small ad in the corner
only) or equally annoying register please pages

Andrew D

On Tue, 2004-07-27 at 23:32, Terry Collins wrote:
> Ashley Maher wrote:
> 
> > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/26/1090693888524.html
> 
> Just post the small bit of interest.
> The SMH is now a brain dead site.
> Even if you register, it is a major PITA.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Morning Herald Article

2004-07-27 Thread Terry Collins
Ashley Maher wrote:

> http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/26/1090693888524.html

Just post the small bit of interest.
The SMH is now a brain dead site.
Even if you register, it is a major PITA.

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[SLUG] Printing with Debian/Morphix

2004-07-27 Thread Heracles
I have installed Morphix on a computer and upgraded the Distribution 
with apt. All works well. I can use the net through the lan etc. but I 
have one major problem:
How the hell does one set up a network printer with Debian. From my SuSE 
9.1 box I just use YAST. There seems to be no comparable tool in Debian.
As you can guess I have used SuSE/Mandrake/RedHat type distros for 
several years. I have no experience with Debian based systems. And -NO - 
Google didn't help.

Stay well and happy
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Re: [SLUG] Debian auto-logouts

2004-07-27 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 05:54:38PM +1000, Alan L Tyree wrote:
> Jul 27 16:13:50 windy -- MARK --
> Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): GConf server is not in use,
> shutting down.
> Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): Exiting
> Jul 27 16:33:50 windy -- MARK --
> Jul 27 16:34:02 windy gconfd (alant-7234): starting (version 1.0.9), pid
> 7234 us er 'alant'
> 
> So it seems like gconfd is logging me out. it does a -- MARK -- every 20
> min.

The -- MARK -- is made by syslog itself, basically saying "I'm still alive". 
It's controlled by the -m option to syslogd.

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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Morning Herald Article

2004-07-27 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Tue, Jul 27, 2004 at 03:52:27PM +1000, DaZZa wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Matthew Palmer wrote:
> 
> > > And if you're not of the website registering persuasion, this link
> > > works:
> > > http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/26/1090693888524.html?feed=rss
> >
> > Or not.  PITA SMH.
> 
> If you get told you need to register, close the window and try looking it
> up again.
> 
> They haven't implemented the "Registered users only" policy yet - they're
> just sending people to the "sorry, you have to register" page on a random
> basis at this point.

If you mean the "you should register, because we'll be pulling free access
soon" page, "random" appears to mean "there's no cookie on the computer
which says the person has been harassed recently".  At least, that's the
best pattern I've come up with.

I haven't seen any "go away, you have no password" pages yet.

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Re: [SLUG] Debian auto-logouts

2004-07-27 Thread Jan Schmidt


> On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:10:11 +1000
> Chris Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >From /var/log/messages:
> 
> Jul 27 16:13:50 windy -- MARK --
> Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): GConf server is not in use,
> shutting down.
> Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): Exiting
> Jul 27 16:33:50 windy -- MARK --
> Jul 27 16:34:02 windy gconfd (alant-7234): starting (version 1.0.9), pid
> 7234 us er 'alant'
> 
> So it seems like gconfd is logging me out. it does a -- MARK -- every 20
> min.
> 
> I don't seem to have any documentation on gconf.

No, that's gconf shutting down BECAUSE you've logged out and there is no
longer any clients.

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Re: [SLUG] Debian auto-logouts

2004-07-27 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 17:10:11 +1000
Chris Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



>From /var/log/messages:

Jul 27 16:13:50 windy -- MARK --
Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): GConf server is not in use,
shutting down.
Jul 27 16:20:01 windy gconfd (alant-5921): Exiting
Jul 27 16:33:50 windy -- MARK --
Jul 27 16:34:02 windy gconfd (alant-7234): starting (version 1.0.9), pid
7234 us er 'alant'

So it seems like gconfd is logging me out. it does a -- MARK -- every 20
min.

I don't seem to have any documentation on gconf.

Any other ideas gratefully received.
Thanks,
Alan

> 
> 
> 
> Alan L Tyree wrote:
> 
> >Hi,
> >I've just installed Debian Woody with the 2.4 kernel and (for the
> >time being) IceWm.
> >
> >The system logs out a normal user after a period of inaction. I'm not
> >quite sure what the period is.
> >
> >Where do I change this behavior?
> >
> >Thanks for the help,
> >Alan
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 


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Re: [SLUG] Debian auto-logouts

2004-07-27 Thread Chris Freeman
One possibility is that the TMOUT variable set in the environment, to 
check this do  and see what the response is. eg

env |grep TMOUT
TMOUT=7200
means that the shell will time out in 7200 seconds or 2 hours. To change 
this put  in your /etc/bashrc or ~/.bashrc file or 
comment out any existing equivalent line.

Another possibility is that ssh or a firewall is timing you out if you 
are logging in remotely. If you think this might be the problem have a 
look at the /etc/ssh/sshd_config file or check your firewall configuration.
Hope this helps,
Chris Freeman


Alan L Tyree wrote:
Hi,
I've just installed Debian Woody with the 2.4 kernel and (for the time
being) IceWm.
The system logs out a normal user after a period of inaction. I'm not
quite sure what the period is.
Where do I change this behavior?
Thanks for the help,
Alan
 

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Re: [SLUG] Sydney Morning Herald Article

2004-07-27 Thread Phil Scarratt
DaZZa wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004, Matthew Palmer wrote:

And if you're not of the website registering persuasion, this link
works:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/26/1090693888524.html?feed=rss
Or not.  PITA SMH.

If you get told you need to register, close the window and try looking it
up again.
They haven't implemented the "Registered users only" policy yet - they're
just sending people to the "sorry, you have to register" page on a random
basis at this point.
DaZZa
Which would explain why I didn't get bugged by the register page ... :)
Sorry Dazza - forgot to press shift as well when replying the first time 
 :(

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