Re: [SLUG] lowercasing file names, directory names, how ?

2004-08-11 Thread Voytek

Alexander Samad said:
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:45:16PM +1000, Peter Miller wrote:

> or a thought why not a recursive find command !

thanks, everyone

and, now the user told me to leave his files in MIXed caSE, as that's how
his programme outputs it...

anyhow, at least I know how to do it

re my other query, unable to open PDFs in IE/Acrobat on 'doze, aparently
it's a known problem, and, not to do with miXED caSe path/file names, but
some glitches in Acroabt/IE/doze


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Re: [SLUG] lowercasing file names, directory names, how ?

2004-08-11 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:45:16PM +1000, Peter Miller wrote:
> On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 20:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >>"find
> 
> You have to make sure you move the directory AFTER you move file files
> within it... the -depth option.
> 
> You also have to ensure that you only apply the tr command to the LAST
> filename component, not the whole path.
> 
> All this, AND coping with spaces in filenames, is a pain in a shell
> script.  Try perl.  Or do what I did, and write just a few lines of C...
> hint: ftw(3).   Sorry, I tossed it, it was so small.

or a thought why not a recursive find command !




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Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-11 Thread Benno
On Thu Aug 12, 2004 at 12:59:09 +1000, Dennis M. Gray wrote:
>I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some
>recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux (Fedora
>Core specifically).
>

Can't go past the PowerBook. I find the keyboard, battery life, robustness
an bright screen on mine great.

The only time I have an issue with performance is large compiles and
simulation. Any other time it is way fast enough.

If you happen to be a student a student the price is quite reasonable
(I couldn't find a cheaper intel based machine.)

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Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-11 Thread James Gregory
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 12:59 +1000, Dennis M. Gray wrote:
> I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some
> recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux (Fedora
> Core specifically).

I'm currently using an HP NC4000, largely on the recommendation of Bdale
Garbee. He's got a page up about it:

http://www.gag.com/~bdale/nc4000/

I really like it because it's incredibly light. It doesn't have an
optical drive though, so if that's a requirement, then it's probably not
the machine for you.

The inbuilt wireless works well - I'm using the madwifi driver, which
I've found fedora packages for in the past (though I'm running Mandrake
Cooker on it). The bluetooth worked without me doing anything at all.

I bought mine for the low, low price of $1795, which I thought was
pretty good.

HTH,

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Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-11 Thread Stuart Guthrie
My preference currently for robustness, speed and great keyboard. 
 
IBM Thinkpads.

I use the SFF myself 12" screen but others like 15" w. the works.

I set mine to dual boot which for visits to companies stuck on Windows
is handy.

I've heard/seen lots of great things about Apple iBooks and Powerbooks
as well. If you don't have any legacy apps from windows days, these are
probably my next favourite.

HTH

Stu


On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 12:59, Dennis M. Gray wrote:
> I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some
> recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux (Fedora
> Core specifically).
> 
> Regards
> 
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[SLUG] Laptops and Linux

2004-08-11 Thread Dennis M. Gray
I am going to be purchasing a new laptop soon and would like some
recommendations about brands and models that work well with Linux (Fedora
Core specifically).

Regards


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Re: [SLUG] e2label

2004-08-11 Thread O Plameras
I thought that 'disk label' is written on the partition disk
as part of the 'Boot Block'. Disk label, of course, is optional.
As you may know 'disk partition' has three (3) parts,
namely:
1. Boot Block
2. Inode-List or 'Data Structure' Block
3. Data storage Block.
Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit wrote:
Hi,
Adding a new hard drive to an existing system... OK!
Adding an entry to /etc/fstab in the form of:
/dev/hdb /mnt/storage foo bar etc and so on
then using e2label to be able to use a LABEL to refer to a hdd.
LABEL=/storage  /storage ext3defaults1 2
Somewhere some files must get modified by the 'e2label' command,
can anyone tell me which files?
What exactly happens when I use e2label?
thanks,
kind regards,
Luke
 

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RE: [SLUG] e2label

2004-08-11 Thread Rowling, Jill
I thought it wrote something on the physical disk label blocks (not a file
as such) for the disk controller to read.

Cheers,

Jill.

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Subject: [SLUG] e2label


Hi,

Adding a new hard drive to an existing system... OK!
Adding an entry to /etc/fstab in the form of:
/dev/hdb /mnt/storage foo bar etc and so on

then using e2label to be able to use a LABEL to refer to a hdd.

LABEL=/storage  /storage ext3defaults1 2

Somewhere some files must get modified by the 'e2label' command, can anyone
tell me which files? What exactly happens when I use e2label?

thanks,

kind regards,
Luke

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[SLUG] e2label

2004-08-11 Thread Luke (Terry) Vanderfluit
Hi,

Adding a new hard drive to an existing system... OK!
Adding an entry to /etc/fstab in the form of:
/dev/hdb /mnt/storage foo bar etc and so on

then using e2label to be able to use a LABEL to refer to a hdd.

LABEL=/storage  /storage ext3defaults1 2

Somewhere some files must get modified by the 'e2label' command,
can anyone tell me which files?
What exactly happens when I use e2label?

thanks,

kind regards,
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Re: [SLUG] OT. raid failure 36Gb in place of 9Gb?

2004-08-11 Thread Glen Turner
On Thu, 2004-08-12 at 07:26, Ben Donohue wrote:
> Hi Slugs,
> Sorry for the OT post.
> I've a raid 5 array with four 9.1GB disks. Can't find a 9GB disk to 
> replace it but have a 36Gb disk handy.
> It's the same SCSI type and pins. Would putting a 36gb in a 9GB RAID 
> array work as in the RAID uses this disk and rebuilds even if only 9GB 
> of it.
> It's only a temp solution and a new server is coming to replace it 
> anyway. just has to last a couple of weeks.

Yes it will work, and as you describe you only get 9GB.

You will take a performance hit if the news disk's rotational speed (the
"RPM") is less than that of the other units in the raidset.  You might
take a hit from other minor differences too (which is why the disks in a
raidset are usually exactly the same).

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Re: [SLUG] OT. raid failure 36Gb in place of 9Gb?

2004-08-11 Thread Kevin Saenz
I think you would have trouble rebuilding that raid, I have never gone 
down the path of trying to rebuild a harddrive with different size disks.

Hi Slugs,
Sorry for the OT post.
I've a raid 5 array with four 9.1GB disks. Can't find a 9GB disk to 
replace it but have a 36Gb disk handy.
It's the same SCSI type and pins. Would putting a 36gb in a 9GB RAID 
array work as in the RAID uses this disk and rebuilds even if only 9GB 
of it.
It's only a temp solution and a new server is coming to replace it 
anyway. just has to last a couple of weeks.
Ben


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[SLUG] OT. raid failure 36Gb in place of 9Gb?

2004-08-11 Thread Ben Donohue
Hi Slugs,
Sorry for the OT post.
I've a raid 5 array with four 9.1GB disks. Can't find a 9GB disk to 
replace it but have a 36Gb disk handy.
It's the same SCSI type and pins. Would putting a 36gb in a 9GB RAID 
array work as in the RAID uses this disk and rebuilds even if only 9GB 
of it.
It's only a temp solution and a new server is coming to replace it 
anyway. just has to last a couple of weeks.
Ben

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[SLUG] troubleshooting ftp

2004-08-11 Thread Voytek
I have RH with ProFTPD, I need to trouble shoot some missing
files/directories (IOW, the user deleted his web sub directory, and,
claims, 'why are my files missing ?')

apart from /var/log/xfer and mssg, does ftp log anywhere else ?
is there an easy way to grep for 'delete' or 'rmdir' in xfer log ?


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Re: [SLUG] lowercasing file names, directory names, how ?

2004-08-11 Thread Peter Miller
On Wed, 2004-08-11 at 20:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>"find

You have to make sure you move the directory AFTER you move file files
within it... the -depth option.

You also have to ensure that you only apply the tr command to the LAST
filename component, not the whole path.

All this, AND coping with spaces in filenames, is a pain in a shell
script.  Try perl.  Or do what I did, and write just a few lines of C...
hint: ftw(3).   Sorry, I tossed it, it was so small.

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Re: [SLUG] lowercasing file names, directory names, how ?

2004-08-11 Thread amos
Alexander Samad wrote:
sorry missed the -printf, the point I was trying to get to was the
quoting to get around the white spaces
 

OK, got that. The '"' as you put in your suggestion would be "eaten" 
already by
the shell from which this find is executed. You'd have to pass them 
through to the shell
which is executed by find itself. That's what my correction tries to do.

 

find ... -exec mv '"{}"' '"$(changecase \'\"{}\"\')"' \;
and I suspect even these quoting of quotation marks might not work still.
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Re: [SLUG] lowercasing file names, directory names, how ?

2004-08-11 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 01:15:22PM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Alexander Samad wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:49:23AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> >
> >>Looks like you covered it well, except for white space in files.
> >>
> >>Just one more thing to consider is that file names might
> >>be in non-ascii character set(?).
> >>So use "tr [:upper:] [:lower:]" to cover this option.
> >>
> >>You can probably get the same effect as the use of "tac"
> >>with find's "-depth" switch.
> >>
> >>I'd put your script in a file and run it with
> >>"find ... -print0 | xargs -0 your-move-script"
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >couldn't you do find ... -print0 -exec mv "{}" "$(changecase "{}")" \;
> > 
> >
> This doesn't make sense - the "-print0" would just output file names 
> with \0 between them
> to the standard output and the "-exec" will pass the shell command line 
> arguments of "mv"
> without the quotes (and therefore mv will get each white-space separated 
> part of the file name
> as a file name by itself). At the least, drop the "-print0" and try to 
> pass the double-quotes
> through find into the shell command line, like:


sorry missed the -printf, the point I was trying to get to was the
quoting to get around the white spaces

> 
> find ... -exec mv '"{}"' '"$(changecase \'\"{}\"\')"' \;
> 
> and I suspect even these quoting of quotation marks might not work still.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --Amos
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Re: [SLUG] lowercasing file names, directory names, how ?

2004-08-11 Thread amos
Alexander Samad wrote:
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:49:23AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Looks like you covered it well, except for white space in files.
Just one more thing to consider is that file names might
be in non-ascii character set(?).
So use "tr [:upper:] [:lower:]" to cover this option.
You can probably get the same effect as the use of "tac"
with find's "-depth" switch.
I'd put your script in a file and run it with
"find ... -print0 | xargs -0 your-move-script"
   

couldn't you do find ... -print0 -exec mv "{}" "$(changecase "{}")" \;
 

This doesn't make sense - the "-print0" would just output file names 
with \0 between them
to the standard output and the "-exec" will pass the shell command line 
arguments of "mv"
without the quotes (and therefore mv will get each white-space separated 
part of the file name
as a file name by itself). At the least, drop the "-print0" and try to 
pass the double-quotes
through find into the shell command line, like:

find ... -exec mv '"{}"' '"$(changecase \'\"{}\"\')"' \;
and I suspect even these quoting of quotation marks might not work still.
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Re: [SLUG] lowercasing file names, directory names, how ?

2004-08-11 Thread Alexander Samad
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 08:49:23AM +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Looks like you covered it well, except for white space in files.
> 
> Just one more thing to consider is that file names might
> be in non-ascii character set(?).
> So use "tr [:upper:] [:lower:]" to cover this option.
> 
> You can probably get the same effect as the use of "tac"
> with find's "-depth" switch.
> 
> I'd put your script in a file and run it with
> "find ... -print0 | xargs -0 your-move-script"

couldn't you do find ... -print0 -exec mv "{}" "$(changecase "{}")" \;

> that way you cover for white space in file names and such.
> (or, if I read sh(1) right then you can read output of
> "-print0" with "read -d\\0")
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --Amos
> 
> Simon Bowden wrote:
> >On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Simon Bowden wrote:
> >
> >>Possibly only lowercase relative links:
> >>if [ -L "$file" -a "${file:0:1}" != "/" ]; then
> >> ...
> >
> >
> >Oops, I'm going to be pedantic. This should be:
> >mv "$file" "$newname"
> >if [ -L "$file" ]; then
> >target=$(ls -l "$file" | sed 's/^.* -> //'
> >if [ "${target:0:1}" != "/" ]; then
> >newtarget=$(echo "$target" | tr A-Z a-z)
> >ln -sf "$newtarget" "$newname"
> >fi
> >fi
> >
> >Since $file is the symlink name, not the target name.
> >
> >Extra pedant - I also realised we should use a raw read:
> >find ... | while read -r file ; do ...
> >
> >since then the filenames with backslash escapes in them (which probably
> >wouldn't be there, but still...).
> >
> >Errr, k, nuff now :) Fun with shell.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> > - Simon
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Re: [SLUG] Doors and sockets

2004-08-11 Thread amos
Rowling, Jill wrote:
I note that the current Solaris implementation has status "evolving" so it
seems to be a newish thing anyway.
 

It was there in 1999 already.
I wonder how would a good implementation affect performance of X11 or 
GNOME's/KDE's
Corba-based communications...

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Re: [SLUG] Running Gnome in Xnest

2004-08-11 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 09:03:11 +1000
Jan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Which sounds like Nautilus isn't running - it is responsible for drawing the
> icons on the desktop and providing the root window popup menu.

Well done Thaytan. That was indeed the problem.


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Re: [SLUG] Doors and sockets

2004-08-11 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 06:52:35 +0100 (IST)
Dave Airlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >
> > Anyone know if doorfs has been ported to Linux? Or, for that matter, why
> > are doors supposed to be more efficient than sockets?
> 
> never used it but http://www.rampant.org/doors/
> 
> Also I'm not sure on Linux doors would be more efficient than local UNIX
> sockets, Solaris might have its own reasons but they probably don't apply
> to Linux..

Yep, Solaris sockets (at least pre-Solaris 10 [0]) used streams
which had a detrimental affect on socket throughput. Doors might
be a way of avoiding that.

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Re: [SLUG] Doors and sockets

2004-08-11 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 15:39:29 +1000
Gavin Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 03:23:49PM +1000, Rowling, Jill wrote:
> > Anyone know if doorfs has been ported to Linux?
> 
> Expermental version: http://www.rampant.org/doors/
> 
> > Or, for that matter, why are doors supposed to be more efficient than
> > sockets?
> 
> Doors are local only, aren't they?

As are PF_UNIX domain sockets (as opposed to PF_INET/PF_INET6 domain).

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RE: [SLUG] Doors and sockets

2004-08-11 Thread Rowling, Jill
This link has some interesting diagrams -- seems to be a student exercise in
implementing doorfs or doors on Linux or whatever OS the student is running.
http://www.math.luc.edu/~ppetrov/CourseWork/CS410_AdvancedOS/Fall_2000/WWW/l
ecture8/examples/doors.htm

The reason why I was interested is just out of curiosity; the oldish version
of Veritas Netbackup I'm running (on Solaris) is a bit chatty about doors
and I wondered why there was nothing about it on the Linux box here.
I note that the current Solaris implementation has status "evolving" so it
seems to be a newish thing anyway.

Cheers,

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