Re: [SLUG] Web based poll/survey software
Simon Wong wrote: I am looking for some web based software to run a poll or more of a survey with multiple questions eg Q1 Do you like Pizza? yes/no Q2 What toppings would you like in the future? Q3 Choose your favourite crust. (i) thin (ii) thick (iii) cheesy I have found the VotePlugin and PollPlugin for twiki but not sure if that will do the job. Does anyone have any suggestions for something that can be pretty much dropped into a site hosted by an external Web Host? I've used PHPESP in the past and been pretty happy with it. http://www.butterfat.net/wiki/Projects/phpESP/ -- Del -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] ICT and the Business of Sustainability - WSITC Quarterly 'Hot Topic' Forum
An interesting forum which offers: * reduce costs and increase profits? * increase efficiencies and competitive advantage? * reduce environmental impact? * tap a critical and growing market? http://interdependent.com.au/wsitc/network/index.cfm?L=122100 One final question, the Plural word for a cluster of Linux users is a Linuxen? -- Craig Warner 25 Tudor Street Surry Hills NSW 2010 Ph: (02) 9319 6185 Mobile: 0421 739 747 Skype: craig.f.m.warner Ekiga: surfless Metallurgist, Linux and Cisco enthusiast. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] ICT and the Business of Sustainability - WSITC Quarterly 'Hot Topic' Forum
On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 21:37 +1100, Craig Warner wrote: One final question, the Plural word for a cluster of Linux users is a Linuxen? I think you'll find its called an argument :) -- James Purser Producer/Presenter - Open Source On The Air A LocalFOSS Production http://www.localfoss.org irc: #localfoss on irc.freenode.net signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SQL join to most recent log table entry?
I've got a couple of tables itmmaster and suppstock. itmmaster contains products, suppstock contains log-like entries of product codes and stock availability and a datetime stamp. I want to do a join to select a bunch of products along with their most recent stock update entry and was wondering if that's possible to do in SQL. example itmmaster data (id) 'productA' 'productB' 'productC' example suppstock data (id),(stockavail),(lastupdated) 'productA','10','2006-09-01 12:00:00' 'productB','9','2006-05-01 12:00:00' 'productA','2','2006-10-01 12:00:00' 'productB','99','2006-11-01 12:00:00' 'productC','20','2006-04-28 12:00:00' 'productC','0','2006-10-01 12:00:00' 'productA','0','2006-10-10 12:00:00' 'productC','1','2006-11-05 12:00:00' example query idea select itmmaster.id,suppstock.stockavail,suppstock.lastupdated from itmmaster left join suppstock on itmmaster.id,suppstock.id where ??? group or order by something having stockavail0; example result set 'productB','99','2006-11-01 12:00:00' 'productC','1','2006-11-05 12:00:00' Note that productA is missing only because of the having clause. If I had put stockavail0 in the where clause that'd return the last time there was stock which is crap for me so don't suggest that. Sure, I can do this in the client app but that's inefficient. This crops up from time to time and I'd like to solve it properly. In this case I'm tring to identify products in stock with our suppliers last time we checked. I happen to be using MySQL 4.X if that makes any difference. Maybe I need a sub select or do a suppstock join to itself or possibly a stored procedure if we can upgrade to MySQL 5.X? -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - senior LPIC-1 certified consultant Linux User #281066 at http://counter.li.org (Linux Counter) EverythingLinux services - the consultant's backup tech support. Web: http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/support.php We're also busybits.com.au and linuxhelp.com.au and elx.com.au. Phone 02 8756 3522 to book service or discuss your needs. ELX or its employees participate in the following:- OSIA (Open Source Industry Australia) - http://www.osia.net.au AUUG (Australian Unix Users Group) - http://www.auug.org.au SLUG (Sydney Linux Users Group) - http://www.slug.org.au LA (Linux Australia) - http://www.linux.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Setting the date format in Thunderbird
David Gillies wrote: For the life of me I can't find (and I swear I've googled this before to no avail) where to set the time/date format in Thunberbird. Does anyone know how to do this? It seems to completely ignore the locale settings of my system (en_AU) and go for en_US. It should be your system locale that determines it. Can you show us the output of running `locale`? -- Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SQL join to most recent log table entry?
On 07/11/2006, at 10:03 PM, Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux wrote: I've got a couple of tables itmmaster and suppstock. itmmaster contains products, suppstock contains log-like entries of product codes and stock availability and a datetime stamp. I want to do a join to select a bunch of products along with their most recent stock update entry and was wondering if that's possible to do in SQL. example itmmaster data (id) 'productA' 'productB' 'productC' example suppstock data (id),(stockavail),(lastupdated) 'productA','10','2006-09-01 12:00:00' 'productB','9','2006-05-01 12:00:00' 'productA','2','2006-10-01 12:00:00' 'productB','99','2006-11-01 12:00:00' 'productC','20','2006-04-28 12:00:00' 'productC','0','2006-10-01 12:00:00' 'productA','0','2006-10-10 12:00:00' 'productC','1','2006-11-05 12:00:00' example query idea select itmmaster.id,suppstock.stockavail,suppstock.lastupdated from itmmaster left join suppstock on itmmaster.id,suppstock.id where ??? group or order by something having stockavail0; example result set 'productB','99','2006-11-01 12:00:00' 'productC','1','2006-11-05 12:00:00' Note that productA is missing only because of the having clause. If I had put stockavail0 in the where clause that'd return the last time there was stock which is crap for me so don't suggest that. Sure, I can do this in the client app but that's inefficient. This crops up from time to time and I'd like to solve it properly. In this case I'm tring to identify products in stock with our suppliers last time we checked. I happen to be using MySQL 4.X if that makes any difference. Maybe I need a sub select or do a suppstock join to itself or possibly a stored procedure if we can upgrade to MySQL 5.X? One way would be to use a correlated subquery to select only rows that have the latest timestamp for the given stock ID. For example: select itmmaster.id, suppstock.stockavail, suppstock.lastupdated from itmmaster left join suppstock on itmmaster.id = suppstock.id where -- match only latest suppstock entry suppstock.lastupdated = (select s2.lastupdated from suppstock s2 where s2.id = suppstock.id order by lastupdated desc limit 1) -- match only entries with stock and suppstock.stockavail0; You could probably also try max(s2.lastupdated) in the subquery instead of an ordered select with limit. Depending on constraints you could also look at redesigning the schema so that there would be no need for a subquery. For example, one table for current suppstock data with a unique key on product id, and another for historical suppstock data. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Web based poll/survey software
Heya, quote who=Simon Wong I am looking for some web based software to run a poll or more of a survey with multiple questions eg PHP Surveyor is pretty good. Also there are good components for both drupal and joomla :) Cheers, Pia -- Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ We are the facilitators of our own creative evolution. - Bill Hicks -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[Fwd: Intellectual property for newbie programmers (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] Novell and Microsoft])]
Thanks Adam really! It did clarify a few issues for me Regards Phill O'Flynn - Original Message - Subject: Intellectual property for newbie programmers (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [SLUG] Novell and Microsoft]) From: Adam Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Tue, November 7, 2006 6:20 pm To: Phill O'Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: slug@slug.org.au Phill O'Flynn wrote: As a budding software developer, I find this copyright and intellectual property topic increasingly tragic. Where does it end? Who doesn't copy ideas? Didn't Microsoft develop Windows 3.1 by borrowing the GUI idea from Apple ( and subsequently squashing them). Now they want to protect themselves from what they did to others. Or perhaps they want to continue to squash any other alternative to them ( or better put Resistance is futile Let me clarify things a little for those getting started in the programming side of things. There's three different things you need to care about, and they have completely different impacts. Since there seems to be a little confusion in your comments, let me clarify in simple points. These are extraordinarily hand-waving definitions, but hold true for the most part. 1. Copyright. - Don't cut and paste other people's code without asking them. - Don't use someone else's module/API unless you agree to their terms. Plagiarism fits mostly into here, but in the academic and media sense, it's altered somewhat to... - Cut and paste all you like but ALWAYS say where you got it from. Open Source (in the extreme broadest sense of the term) is a massive positive for you here, because it lets YOU make a legally enforcable deal where you let other people copy your work, as long as you can copy theirs back again if you want to. Free Software extends this idea further, but in the most general share-and-share-alike sense it's similar. 2. Trademark - Don't steal someone's logo in a similar industry. - Don't use someone else's name in a similar industry. - Don't sort of do either of the above in a similar industry. Basically, don't present yourself to the public in a way that the average layman might get confused and think you are them. And even more strictly, don't ever make money off the similarity. Trademarks are why the Microsoft Pillow Factory on the Princes Highway in Tempe (no really, this actually exists) is completely safe, while a notional Open Source Microsoftware company or something that used the four colours windows pattern could be in trouble. 3. Patents While copyright and trademarks are quite clear and work pretty well, patents are another story. A patent, fundamentally, goes like this. - You have an awesome idea that isn't obvious to anyone else. Imagine you are the first person to invent gold plating. - You can make a huge of money from it, as long as nobody else knows. Imagine nobody has seen gold cups and forks except for solid gold ones owned by kings and great figures, and now YOU can eat like a king for only $199.90 per fork! - So you go to huge lengths to keep it secret. You never write down the chemical solution formula, and you guard carefully the machines in sealed buildings and you make the machines so only you can operate them. - You die, and because of the extreme secrecy, your idea is lost to society. This, obviously, is very very bad. Forget gold plating, imagine losing the ability to make penicilin. So society does a deal with the devil. - Society lets you exploit your idea in the open, but do so AS IF you had kept it secret. So society enforces your secrecy (exclusivity/monopoly) and lets you make even MORE money quickly, because you don't have to go to the efforts to keep it secret. - In exchange, Society forces you to tell it in extreme detail EXACTLY what your great idea is. Now when you die (or rather, in 20 years), all of society benefits and your idea isn't lost. In fact, in any patent application the standard of documentation to this day remains something similar to, Enough detail so anyone else in your industry could copy your idea And over the course of history, this deal with the devil has worked pretty well. Much of the key technical and applied scientific knowledge of mankind is stored in the vast patent office collections, and mankind advances on a (relatively short) 20 year delay without losing the ideas. So patents themselves are not inherently bad, even in it. That's a somewhat unpopular idea in this community, but I note that Donald Knuth holds the same position. The problem for us is that the standard of judging what is obvious and what isn't in IT is dangerously bad, and when you look at the speed of the IT industry compared to, say, chemistry or engineering or biology, 20 years is just a ridiculously long period of time. In this
[SLUG] apt- bittorrent
I am sure someone has thought about this. Why don't we have apt-bittorrent. I would be happy to participate if the setup could be set so I could permanently seed any packages in my package directory with my off-peak data rate and rational throttling. Ubuntu / debian provides the tracker and a seed, and then the swarm takes over and if you wanted to mirror, eg Optus, you simply become a seed yourself. The apt tracker would have entries for every valid package (valid being stable, testing, unstable) you would simply connect to the 'known' tracker for that package and BT download it. -- Ken Foskey FOSS developer -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re:Setting the date format in Thunderbird
How about:- Edit/Prefs Advanced/General Advanced Config ( Config Editor) general.useragent.locale set to AU Hope this helps Bill Subject: Re: [SLUG] Setting the date format in Thunderbird From: Michael Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:15:54 +1100 To: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Gillies [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: slug slug@slug.org.au David Gillies wrote: For the life of me I can't find (and I swear I've googled this before to no avail) where to set the time/date format in Thunberbird. Does anyone know how to do this? It seems to completely ignore the locale settings of my system (en_AU) and go for en_US. It should be your system locale that determines it. Can you show us the output of running `locale`? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SQL join to most recent log table entry?
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006, Sam Lawrance wrote: On 07/11/2006, at 10:03 PM, Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux wrote: I've got a couple of tables itmmaster and suppstock. itmmaster contains products, suppstock contains log-like entries of product codes and stock availability and a datetime stamp. I want to do a join to select a bunch of products along with their most recent stock update entry and was wondering if that's possible to do in SQL. example itmmaster data (id) 'productA' 'productB' 'productC' example suppstock data (id),(stockavail),(lastupdated) 'productA','10','2006-09-01 12:00:00' 'productB','9','2006-05-01 12:00:00' 'productA','2','2006-10-01 12:00:00' 'productB','99','2006-11-01 12:00:00' 'productC','20','2006-04-28 12:00:00' 'productC','0','2006-10-01 12:00:00' 'productA','0','2006-10-10 12:00:00' 'productC','1','2006-11-05 12:00:00' example query idea select itmmaster.id,suppstock.stockavail,suppstock.lastupdated from itmmaster left join suppstock on itmmaster.id,suppstock.id where ??? group or order by something having stockavail0; example result set 'productB','99','2006-11-01 12:00:00' 'productC','1','2006-11-05 12:00:00' Note that productA is missing only because of the having clause. If I had put stockavail0 in the where clause that'd return the last time there was stock which is crap for me so don't suggest that. Sure, I can do this in the client app but that's inefficient. This crops up from time to time and I'd like to solve it properly. In this case I'm tring to identify products in stock with our suppliers last time we checked. I happen to be using MySQL 4.X if that makes any difference. Maybe I need a sub select or do a suppstock join to itself or possibly a stored procedure if we can upgrade to MySQL 5.X? One way would be to use a correlated subquery to select only rows that have the latest timestamp for the given stock ID. For example: select itmmaster.id, suppstock.stockavail, suppstock.lastupdated from itmmaster left join suppstock on itmmaster.id = suppstock.id where -- match only latest suppstock entry suppstock.lastupdated = (select s2.lastupdated from suppstock s2 where s2.id = suppstock.id order by lastupdated desc limit 1) -- match only entries with stock and suppstock.stockavail0; You could probably also try max(s2.lastupdated) in the subquery instead of an ordered select with limit. I was just getting excited about your above suggestion but realised the sub-query's just going to select literally the most recent log entry where I really want the most recent log entries for all products. It'd work if I could add to the subquery where [EMAIL PROTECTED] where @variable gets set by the main select. This depends on the internal order of processing and I'll check that out. Depending on constraints you could also look at redesigning the schema so that there would be no need for a subquery. For example, one table for current suppstock data with a unique key on product id, and another for historical suppstock data. Yeah I had thought of that... perhaps I will, there's only 202,827 products at the moment. -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - senior LPIC-1 certified consultant Linux User #281066 at http://counter.li.org (Linux Counter) EverythingLinux services - the consultant's backup tech support. Web: http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/support.php We're also busybits.com.au and linuxhelp.com.au and elx.com.au. Phone 02 8756 3522 to book service or discuss your needs. ELX or its employees participate in the following:- OSIA (Open Source Industry Australia) - http://www.osia.net.au AUUG (Australian Unix Users Group) - http://www.auug.org.au SLUG (Sydney Linux Users Group) - http://www.slug.org.au LA (Linux Australia) - http://www.linux.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent
On Wed, Nov 08, 2006 at 01:02:07AM +1100, Ken Foskey wrote: I am sure someone has thought about this. Yes, I know Shehjar (cc'd) has thought about it an implemented a version; I'm sure he'd love to talk about it :) -i -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] SQL join to most recent log table entry?
On Wed, 8 Nov 2006, Grant Parnell ELX wrote: select itmmaster.id, suppstock.stockavail, suppstock.lastupdated from itmmaster left join suppstock on itmmaster.id = suppstock.id where -- match only latest suppstock entry suppstock.lastupdated = (select s2.lastupdated from suppstock s2 where s2.id = suppstock.id order by lastupdated desc limit 1) -- match only entries with stock and suppstock.stockavail0; You could probably also try max(s2.lastupdated) in the subquery instead of an ordered select with limit. I was just getting excited about your above suggestion but realised the sub-query's just going to select literally the most recent log entry where I really want the most recent log entries for all products. It'd work if I could add to the subquery where [EMAIL PROTECTED] where @variable gets set by the main select. This depends on the internal order of processing and I'll check that out. Urm... scratch that last comment, you had it covered... took about 12 minutes with the order by / limit combination and about 6 minutes with the max() method below thanks heaps! select itmmaster.id,suppstock.stockavail,suppstock.lastupdated from itmmaster left join suppstock on itmmaster.id=suppstock.id where itmmaster.indent=1 and itmmaster.publish=0 and suppstock.lastupdated = (select max(s2.lastupdated) from suppstock s2 where s2.id = suppstock.id) having suppstock.stockavail0; 2189 rows in set (6 min 18.54 sec) Well that's nearly 2200 products I shouldn't have deleted from our website (and shall rectify), not bad considering I removed just under 15,000 (which took 12 hours to do! I'll have to turn off indexing till the end of the update next time.) -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - SLUG President LPIC-1 certified engineer EverythingLinux services - the consultant's backup tech support. Web: http://www.elx.com.au/support.php We're also busybits.com.au and linuxhelp.com.au and everythinglinux.com.au. Phone 02 8756 3522 to book service or discuss your needs or email us at paidsupport at elx.com.au ELX or its employees participate in the following:- OSIA (Open Source Industry Australia) - http://www.osia.net.au AUUG (Australian Unix Users Group) - http://www.auug.org.au SLUG (Sydney Linux Users Group) - http://www.slug.org.au LA (Linux Australia) - http://www.linux.org.au -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Making Links 2006 Conference
Hi all, quote who=Mitchell Seaton Pia Waugh, Vice President of Linux Australia, will be in attendance. Heh, thanks Mitch :) hat style=ASK-OSS Yeah Craig, we'll be there with a table talking about Open Source in education. The table we'll be hosting is an ASK-OSS table (which they paid for) as ASK-OSS is a research project specifically looking at Open Source in education and research and is working with DEST and DET: http://ask-oss.mq.edu.au/ /hat If anyone is coming along, drop in :) Cheers, Pia -- Linux Australia http://linux.org.au/ Women hold up half the sky. - Mao Tse Tung -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent
Ken Foskey wrote: I am sure someone has thought about this. Why don't we have apt-bittorrent. I would be happy to participate if the setup could be set so I could permanently seed any packages in my package directory with my off-peak data rate and rational throttling. Ubuntu / debian provides the tracker and a seed, and then the swarm takes over and if you wanted to mirror, eg Optus, you simply become a seed yourself. The apt tracker would have entries for every valid package (valid being stable, testing, unstable) you would simply connect to the 'known' tracker for that package and BT download it. I believe this has been discussed before I even brought it up a while ago on irc. I think from that discussion someone said it was possibly being worked on, but having the trackers also be seeders would be a good idea. Or you could look at for the time being apt-mirror or apt-proxy -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent
Ken Foskey wrote: Why don't we have apt-bittorrent. I would be happy to participate if the setup could be set so I could permanently seed any packages in my package directory with my off-peak data rate and rational throttling. Ubuntu / debian provides the tracker and a seed, and then the swarm takes over and if you wanted to mirror, eg Optus, you simply become a seed yourself. But any of those seeds could insert a trojan in a deb. The apt tracker would have entries for every valid package (valid being stable, testing, unstable) you would simply connect to the 'known' tracker for that package and BT download it. It would also have to do checksums and to so this it must refer back to a central trusted repository. Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Support Unit Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another anti-spam idea
Jeff, The most annoying anti-spam method in the world. A sure-fire way to not get mail from anyone. If you get *no* e-mail, it follows that you don't get any *spam* e-mail as well... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent
Only the .torrent file needs to be trusted. It contains a SHA-1 hash for each of the pieces it would expect to download. As long as the .torrent is signed by say the Debian or Ubuntu key you should be right. Any pieces sent by bogus seeds will be rejected. It's funny - I was talking about exactly this idea with my son on the weekend. (Maybe someone should check whether a patent application has already gone in for this one :-) Martin On 11/8/06, Michael Lake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Foskey wrote: Why don't we have apt-bittorrent. I would be happy to participate if the setup could be set so I could permanently seed any packages in my package directory with my off-peak data rate and rational throttling. Ubuntu / debian provides the tracker and a seed, and then the swarm takes over and if you wanted to mirror, eg Optus, you simply become a seed yourself. But any of those seeds could insert a trojan in a deb. The apt tracker would have entries for every valid package (valid being stable, testing, unstable) you would simply connect to the 'known' tracker for that package and BT download it. It would also have to do checksums and to so this it must refer back to a central trusted repository. Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Support Unit Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another anti-spam idea
Adam, Any time a spam strategy is predictably imperfect, that is a specific type of spam gets through, you've essentially created a scenario in which you have a strong evolutionary selection towards that type of spam. And so the percentages will start to grow as more spammers use that successful technique. The question is: 1. Is spam evolutionary, that is does it evolve; or 2. Is it brought about by Intelligent Design... DSL -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another anti-spam idea
David Lloyd wrote: Jeff, The most annoying anti-spam method in the world. A sure-fire way to not get mail from anyone. If you get *no* e-mail, it follows that you don't get any *spam* e-mail as well... I'm unplugging my computer RIGHT N -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] SA FuzzzyOCR rejection Q
I have a user complain valid sender got rejected, mail log says: Nov 3 14:19:17 koala amavis[26922]: (26922-03-3) SPAM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yes, score=6.941 tag=0.5 tag2=6.31 kill=6.31 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, EXTRA_MPART_TYPE=1.091, FUZZY_OCR=6.000, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY=0.214, RCVD_IN_WHOIS_INVALID=2.234], autolearn=no, quarantine Cms8bAvTOPd0 this is saying FuzzyOCR qualified this for dust bin, isn't it ? unfortunately, original mssg is long since dev/null'ed, what else can I find from the logs, if any ? -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Setting the date format in Thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Knight wrote: David Gillies wrote: For the life of me I can't find (and I swear I've googled this before to no avail) where to set the time/date format in Thunberbird. Does anyone know how to do this? It seems to completely ignore the locale settings of my system (en_AU) and go for en_US. It should be your system locale that determines it. Can you show us the output of running `locale`? Perhaps having C might be affecting it. $ locale LANG=en_AU LC_CTYPE=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=C LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=C LC_MESSAGES=C LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C LC_ADDRESS=C LC_TELEPHONE=C LC_MEASUREMENT=C LC_IDENTIFICATION=C LC_ALL=C What do others here have? - -- dave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFUSBVhPPdWeHRgaoRAqiYAKD/VkQNylnE9vYM1f7bns4/jcZ5KQCg14iF /F3rR0hi8qDwqAWkxzD0mdA= =KIV2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another anti-spam idea
On 08/11/06, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm unplugging my computer RIGHT N Wow, that's really cool. Can you teach me how to send an email character by character right up until the point that I pull the power? I wouldn't have to keep saving my multi page rants for fear of haning the power go out mid rant. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Palm PDA discussion, appendix to
just FYI, in view of the recent discussion, I though it topical apologies if not Original Message Subject: Correction to PalmSource Newsletter #26 Date:Wed, November 8, 2006 10:40 am -- In Issue # 26 of the PalmSource Developer Newsletter, we inadvertently misquoted the industry analyst firm In-Stat as forecasting smartphone shipments at 266 billion units by the year 2010, compared to an estimated 54 billion units shipped in 2005. In-Stat actually forecasted 266 million units by the year 2010, and an estimated 54 million units shipped in 2005. Thats still a lot of units, and the slope of the curve represents a healthy growth in the smartphone business. ANOTHER LOOK AT ACCESS LINUX PLATFORM Just in case you missed them, here are some recent stories that give a good perspective on where ACCESS/PalmSource is headed with its ACCESS Linux Platform (ALP), and how it got there. ACCESS to Release Application Framework to the Open Source Community This component of the ACCESS Linux Platform has been designed to meet the requirements of mobile phones and devices, enabling secure application management and an integrated user experience. Until now, an application frameworkto install and manage applications, while enabling applications to interact with each other and the userhas not been available in the open source community. Open sourcing the Application Framework will benefit all mobile Linux developers, manufacturers, and operators, and will help avoid potential fragmentation. Read more about it here: http://palmpowered.com/ct.html?rtr=ons=3,1co,w,lm3w,4bz6,ac4q,728s Beyond the PC: the Realization of Linux in the Mobile Device Market ACCESS/PalmSource VP of Engineering Mike Kelley's informative and entertaining LinuxWorld presentation: http://palmpowered.com/ct.html?rtr=ons=3,1co,w,638d,5t77,ac4q,728s Executive Interview with Mike Kelley and John Cook of PalmSource For those interested in seeing how ACCESS Linux strategy has evolved over the past 1.5 years, a LinuxDevices.com detailed interview from May of 2005 with PalmSources Mike Kelley, VP of Engineering, and John Cook, Director of Product Marketing, can be found here: http://palmpowered.com/ct.html?rtr=ons=3,1co,w,ag6p,fcz5,ac4q,728sPalmSource, Inc. 1188 East Arques Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94085 -- Voytek -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Suspend and IR
On Friday 03 November 2006 13:54, Kevin Saenz wrote: I have gentoo running MythTV, I would like to build suspend into the kernel and use the USB IR to start up the system. Is this possible? Or do I have to use some sleep function that is only actioned when using the power button on the remote control? This is what I found http://markh.de/wakeonlirc/ I don't use this so I can't vouch for it. I have a Libretto laptop that is my always on computer and my MythTV box that is turned on by WakeOnLan events. The Libretto is connected to the LIRC device and the MythTV box uses LIRC through the LAN. When the power button is pressed on the Libretto, a WakeOnLan event is sent to the MythTV box. Regards Joseph -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Setting the date format in Thunderbird
David Gillies wrote: Perhaps having C might be affecting it. Yeah, I suspect having LC_TIME set to C might be the cause of the problem. $ locale LANG=en_AU LC_CTYPE=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=C LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=C LC_MESSAGES=C LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C LC_ADDRESS=C LC_TELEPHONE=C LC_MEASUREMENT=C LC_IDENTIFICATION=C LC_ALL=C What do others here have? $ locale LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ALL= -- Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Has anyone had the idea of making an RSS feed out of email?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Howard Lowndes wrote: ...as per the subject Yes http://www.google.com.au/search?q=rss+email - -- dave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFUSh8hPPdWeHRgaoRAsdcAJ0RQT+P1swp/DcAMe9dnAB8DfPLywCg8iXX Of0kdN4ko0l3ntGfMYlvZUs= =dCLs -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Has anyone had the idea of making an RSS feed out of email?
Howard Lowndes wrote: ...as per the subject Depends. If you're talking about an RSS feed representing the contents of a mailbox, gmail does this. From memory, you can get RSS feeds of arbitrary searches in your gmail inbox, too. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Another anti-spam idea
Michael Brown wrote: On 08/11/06, Peter Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm unplugging my computer RIGHT N Wow, that's really cool. Can you teach me how to send an email character by character right up until the point that I pull the power? I wouldn't have to keep saving my multi page rants for fear of haning the power go out mid rant. It's a custom mail client I wrote myself: telnet rusty.slug.org.au 25 -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] apt- bittorrent
Hi all Ken Foskey wrote: I am sure someone has thought about this. The two implementations that I know of, are: 1. apt-torrent: Available at http://sianka.free.fr/. This one seems to be under active development as compared to my work below. I havent gone into much detail with this one, but it does seem to work, and work for a few hundred deb packages, as the FAQ page says. It should be worth checking out. 2. bat-get: Available here http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~shehjart/download/bat-get.tar.bz2 Developed way back in 2004. The main aim was to be able to seed thousands of deb packages on the scale of a real http/ftp based repositories. I did succeed to an extent, that the updates happened just fine, but the seeder could not scale beyond a few thousand packages. I do have a design in mind to fix this but not the time, well, not for the next 2 months anyway. The difference between the two implementations is the way they run the tracker/seeders/clients. Apt-torrent has a more attractive design for regular users because it does not need any new client/frontend for getting the deb packages, one can continue using the apt-get/aptitude. It only changes the way interactions happen in the background, i.e. p2p interactions between the client, tracker, seeder, etc. Whereas my approach requires using a new command line tool call bat-get which could be an issue for most. bat-get doesnt have a web page for reference but theres a detailed text document in bat-get tarball which explains the design,setup, etc. Shehjar -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Has anyone had the idea of making an RSS feed out of email?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Howard Lowndes wrote: Peter Hardy wrote: Howard Lowndes wrote: ...as per the subject Depends. If you're talking about an RSS feed representing the contents of a mailbox, gmail does this. From memory, you can get RSS feeds of arbitrary searches in your gmail inbox, too. I'm talking about an RSS feed representing the contents of _my_ inbox, I'm not interested in having a gmail account. How about imap2rss? http://www.noaxs.net/imap2rss/ I haven't tried it before, but I came across this in the past when I was pondering such a thing myself. - -- dave. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFUT99hPPdWeHRgaoRAvy2AKCUJbMBvC4nH9pUYGofpMMzZ2Vj0gCcDWjY wiCAWcwXsr5bJerlEt/TRKI= =AxDp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Setting the date format in Thunderbird
Hi Dave, Here's mine: ** $ locale LANG=en_AU.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_AU:en LC_CTYPE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_NUMERIC=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_TIME=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MONETARY=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MESSAGES=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_PAPER=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_NAME=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ADDRESS=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_TELEPHONE=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_MEASUREMENT=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_AU.UTF-8 LC_ALL= ** Regards, Patrick Re: [SLUG] Setting the date format in Thunderbird Michael Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Gillies wrote: Perhaps having C might be affecting it. Yeah, I suspect having LC_TIME set to C might be the cause of the problem. $ locale LANG=en_AU LC_CTYPE=C LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=C LC_COLLATE=C LC_MONETARY=C LC_MESSAGES=C LC_PAPER=C LC_NAME=C LC_ADDRESS=C LC_TELEPHONE=C LC_MEASUREMENT=C LC_IDENTIFICATION=C LC_ALL=C What do others here have? -- Registered Linux User 368634 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Can't seem to get DirectoryIndex to work in Apache 2.0
Hi all Problem: I can't get http://localhost/kid/ to serve out http://localhost/kid/index in Apache 2.0 Details: I'm having some probs in getting a web application to work on my new Debian box. It worked on my old laptop with Apache 1.3 but my new laptop has Apache 2.0 and many things are quite different. I'm using Apache2 + mod-perl2 with Apache:compat for compatability as the scripts are mod-perl 1.0 scripts. I have set in the site config file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/kiddev the lines: DirectoryIndex index Alias /kid /home/kiddev/asf-kid/html and in that directory asf-kid/html is a mod_perl script which is called index - there is no extension. It should be run when I use http://localhost/kid/ as /etc/apache2/apache2.conf contains just: DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl In the browser if I try http://localhost/kid/ I get: The URL /kid/ was not found but if I try http://localhost/kid/index explicitly the application loads fine. The error log shows when I access http://localhost/kid/ Attempt to serve directory /home/kiddev/asf-kid/html/ which is fine as that is the directory pointed to by the alias. Yes, I have restarted apache. Is there something different that I need to do? -- Michael Lake Computational Research Support Unit Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Sydney.pm Meeting Tonight
Hi Gang Just a short note to let people know that the monthly Sydney Perlmongers meeting is on tonight. We're meeting up at 6:30pm at the Firehouse Hotel (pub) in North Sydney for a drink or two. http://www.firehousehotel.com.au/2.html Then at about 7pm once everyone is arrived, we'll be transferring over to a boardroom at Dan Steele's company at 100 Walker Street North Sydney Paul Fenwick is in town from Melbourne and will be giving a talk, which I believe will be a preview of his ODSC talk. If anyone is interested I look forward to seeing you there. If you get lost and need some assistance, you can reach me on 0416 181 595. Adam K -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] GNOME multifunction password manager
I'm looking for a password manager to run under GNOME with the following features: mandatory: * allows copying of password to clipboard, without showing password on screen (to stop shoulder surfers) highly desirable: * integrates with Firefox to store website passwords, or failing that, another browser. * can initiate an FTP connection (using Nautilus as an FTP client is fine, I've never had any luck with gFTP). desirable: * integrates with the GNOME NetworkManager Applet to store WiFi passwords, or integrates with GNOME Keyring manager (which currently stores WiFi passwords) * can initiate an SSH connection, preferably through tilda I'm looking at Revelation and FPM at the moment, and I've found this how-to/blog on a few options including pam-keyring, but it seems to be more focussed on single sign on: http://uwstopia.nl/blog/2006/08/password-hell-gdm-ssh-gnome-keyring and the follow up: http://uwstopia.nl/blog/2006/08/password-hell-part-ii What do you use? Ben -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Can SLUG help i386. For Linux.Conf.Au
Hi I'm was wondering if someone could help me. I'm Adam from i386.tv. I run a little Aussie based vodcast/podcast and currently seeking some assistant/help Heres the deal. : - I'm currently keen on covering Linux.conf.au event in January, - But I lack an interviewers/presenters talent to be on camera instead of me - Admittedly i kind of novice to linux still - I don't want to solo the event and make the show. Making me embarrassed and disappointing by the poor coverage of linux.conf.au Who am i looking for? : - Basically anyone thats confident speaker and can have fun on camera - Your available for the entire event and in sydney - Doesn't studded/slur, good hygiene and likeable camera appearance - Fun, Cool and Happy person. That can make a light social chitchat on the fly - Not a grumpy - Any Journos and Writers would be great to have What it for you - Free T-shirt (when they do get made) - Your encouraged to contribute your own ideas and input into what you want to do - Representing SLUG! - Possible reoccurring guest contributor role after the event But yeah i wanted to ask SLUG if anyone/know someone who could help out. That be great PS: If you don't know anyone. FW it to the mailing list and send me the link please :) cheers Adam i386.tv -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
