Re: Slug digest vol 20 issue 25 - Subject: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
-The following applies mostly to John Clarke message. John have you looked up what motherboard you have. I know that HP probably isn't using the stock Intel or amd motherboards, but if you can find out it's chipset you might be able to use the vendors, in this case probably intel, own programs. Failing this, I'm sure you can grab a windows xp live cd (I have not personally used one but I know they exist) or use some one else's hardisk as a temporary fix. If you feel like emulating windows, you can do that too. Perhaps calling HP will yield another version of the update utility. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Software RAID Questions
Hi All I am Mucking around wit setting up some Software RAID Disks. I brought 5 x 500Gb USB2 external Disks and got them really Cheap. I have a situation where I dont need Llightening fast access to files, but I need a Lot of Space and as Much redundancy as I can get. So I want to add these 5 x 500Gb disks into a RAID 5 array. I used the following command: mdadm -v --create /dev/md1 --level=raid5 --raid-devices=5 --spare-devices=0 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 /dev/sde1 /dev/sdf1 /dev/sdg1 And now have a running /dev/md1. After running a mkfs -t ext3 /dev/md1 I got a Fully formatted Data Area and Mounted it to /mnt/raid All was well and I copied over Data and had a good old Play around. Then I re-booted the box, I got a MD1 does not exist type of error so my forst question is this. How do I make it Stick? How do I make the /dev/md1 still be recognised after a Reboot? My Next Step is to mount my /home on the RAID array, but first lets see if I can get it up and running after a Re-boot. Kev -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 14:14:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Amos Shapira wrote: > > > Any more pointers? > > > > Hi Amos, > > > > The executable James refers to is system-config-packages (it used to > > be called redhat-config-packages). The executable is provided by > > the pirut package. It is uses X11, which you can use over ssh > > (see the -X and -Y flags to ssh). > > Thanks. I installed it. It pulled in tons of stuff with its dependencies > (46 packages, mostly related to X11 libraries or notifications daemons I > don't care about). It also requires me to enable X11 forwarding. I then > turned around and used grep/awk to find all the packages and remove them. > > At least now I know where I stand in my chances to find such a tool. :( > > I know of no curses-based package manager which uses the yum API. > > > Having used dselect on Ubuntu I can understand why no one bothers, > > a full GUI interface is just so much more understandable. > > I can understand your comment about dselect, I hated it too (and I think > it's the consensus), but aptitude is totally different and being able to > avoid X11 means: > 1. faster interface over long distance. > 2. avoids installing tons of X11-related stuff on a headless server > 3. avoid opening possibly other holes in the system. > > Yum is the command-line package manager. > > > Yes I know, it seems to have most of the smarts of apt-get but without the > convenience of aptitude (can any tool on CentOS remember which package was > installed automatically and mark it for removal when no longer required by > other packages? And of course there is the interactive interface). Now SuSEs suit of sysadmin tools, including package management, yast, is just perfect for ssh admin IE the full GUI suit has a curses equivalent James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
On 18/09/2007, Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > System administrators usually administer a whole scad of machines. They > are much more inclined to centralise authentication, use their own > repository containing meta-packages of software and configure these > using cfengine or puppet. You are right. But until I get around to setup puppet in our new environment, and being not very familiar with CenOS (and with CentOS installing so much junk initially, or at least that's what I get from my hosting service), it would be nice to have a more friendly interface than "rpm -qa | grep name", "yum erase name", "yum search ...", "yum install" etc.. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] GanttPV?
Just wondering if anybody's got any opinions about GanttPV ( http://www.pureviolet.net/ganttpv/ )? I'm particularly interested in how well this integrates with MS Project, as well as how easy it is for Project users to switch. The article I found GanttPV through ( http://www.thesimpledollar.com/2006/12/01/30-essential-pieces-of-free-and-open-software-for-windows ) seems adamant that it's a Project killer. But I'd like to hear some other opinions. -- Pete -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
On Tue, 2007-09-18 at 14:12 +1000, Amos Shapira wrote: > I can understand your comment about dselect, I hated it too (and I think > it's the consensus), but aptitude is totally different and being able to > avoid X11 means: > 1. faster interface over long distance. > 2. avoids installing tons of X11-related stuff on a headless server > 3. avoid opening possibly other holes in the system. I don't think you'll find there's much interest in developing such a beast. System administrators usually administer a whole scad of machines. They are much more inclined to centralise authentication, use their own repository containing meta-packages of software and configure these using cfengine or puppet. The aim of Systems Administration In The Large is to avoid ssh-ing into machines. Life's too short to issue the same command 50 times, let alone fumble through 50 menus. -- Glen Turner -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] WiMAX 802.16 wireless
I'm being offered Wimax 802.16 as an alternative to an existing SHDSL. The base station is on top of UTS, and my place is about 1km line of site. (as the crow flies) Does anyone have any knowledge of 802.16? Is there anything I should be aware of? I'm slightly worried that the first rain squall will drop our connection, although the ISP insists that wont happen. The upside is that I will no longer be reliant on Telstra copper. Hurrah! Sorry, I just realised this isn't really Linux related, but I know there are some smart network folks out there, so I hope nobody minds. David. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
On 18/09/2007, Glen Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Amos Shapira wrote: > > Any more pointers? > > Hi Amos, > > The executable James refers to is system-config-packages (it used to > be called redhat-config-packages). The executable is provided by > the pirut package. It is uses X11, which you can use over ssh > (see the -X and -Y flags to ssh). Thanks. I installed it. It pulled in tons of stuff with its dependencies (46 packages, mostly related to X11 libraries or notifications daemons I don't care about). It also requires me to enable X11 forwarding. I then turned around and used grep/awk to find all the packages and remove them. At least now I know where I stand in my chances to find such a tool. :( I know of no curses-based package manager which uses the yum API. > Having used dselect on Ubuntu I can understand why no one bothers, > a full GUI interface is just so much more understandable. I can understand your comment about dselect, I hated it too (and I think it's the consensus), but aptitude is totally different and being able to avoid X11 means: 1. faster interface over long distance. 2. avoids installing tons of X11-related stuff on a headless server 3. avoid opening possibly other holes in the system. Yum is the command-line package manager. Yes I know, it seems to have most of the smarts of apt-get but without the convenience of aptitude (can any tool on CentOS remember which package was installed automatically and mark it for removal when no longer required by other packages? And of course there is the interactive interface). Thanks. --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
Amos Shapira wrote: > Any more pointers? Hi Amos, The executable James refers to is system-config-packages (it used to be called redhat-config-packages). The executable is provided by the pirut package. It is uses X11, which you can use over ssh (see the -X and -Y flags to ssh). I know of no curses-based package manager which uses the yum API. Having used dselect on Ubuntu I can understand why no one bothers, a full GUI interface is just so much more understandable. Yum is the command-line package manager. Cheers, Glen -- Glen Turner -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
RE: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
I'll see if I can get answer internally. An alternative might be to see if you can hold of one of the Windows PE or similar bootable CDs. Martin Visser Technology Consultant Consulting & Integration Technology Solutions Group - HP Services 410 Concord Road Rhodes NSW 2138 Australia Mobile: +61-411-254-513 Fax: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail: martin.visserAThp.com This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify HP immediately by return email and then delete the email, destroy any printed copy and do not disclose or use the information in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Clarke Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2007 11:42 AM To: slug@slug.org.au Subject: [SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how? Hi all, I have an HP laptop (Pavilion dv5230tx) which has a very old BIOS installed and I want to upgrade to the latest version. According to HP's change log, Core 2 Duo support wasn't added to the BIOS until the version after the one I have, even though the laptop has a Core 2 Duo processor. I've been trying to get suspend and hibernate working, and I suspect the old BIOS is part of the problem. Hibernate used to work before I had the motherboard replaced, and I'm fairly sure that the old one had a more recent BIOS. I've had a couple of other weird occasional problems which I suspect are due to the BIOS (keyboard not working after boot and mouse behaving very strangely) too. Unfortunately HP only provide updates as a package with a Windows (not DOS) program called WinFlash. I've wiped Windows off the laptop, so my only choices are to reinstall Windows (which means wiping Linux first because HP only provide "recovery" discs and I don't have a spare laptop SATA drive), or to run WinFlash with wine. I've started the program and it does appear to run, but I haven't been game to let it flash the BIOS yet. Does anyone know whether it's likely to work or if it'll turn my laptop into a brick, or is there another way to do it? Thanks, John -- I can check out all the porn I want to at home, but when I get to work, that's when I'm supposed to be surfing the web and reading USENET. -- Eric Schwartz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
On 18/09/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When in Rome ... Certainly. both redhat-package > and the Applications -> software management (or some such) do just what > you're X11 interfaced is not relevant (I access the machine through ssh to the US) and can't find any executable file with "redhat" and "package" in its name (using "yum search..." and "yum provides"). asking for (It's is there, but I've not played with CentOS for a month or > two, and then only briefly: opinion it's much better than it used to be > (package management)) Any more pointers? Thanks, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Anyone used either OpenCyc or Open Mind Commonsense?
Richard Hayes wrote: Dear List, Has anyone used any open source reasoning engine? Not the ones in the subject but I'm currently writing an application which will be using CLIPS expert system and trying to get my head around it. http://www.ghg.net/clips/CLIPS.html Mike -- Michael Lake Computational Research Support Unit Science Faculty, UTS Ph: 9514 2238 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] aptitude-like program for CentOS
On Tuesday 18 September 2007 10:00:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Is anyone aware of a convenient front-end to yum/rpm which provides similar > interface to Debian's aptitude and can be used on CentOS 5? > > (for those who are not familiar - aptitude is an interactive full-screen > curses-based program which provides a unified interface to manage both > installed and non-installed but available packages). > > So far I could only find "rpm -qa | grep pattern" to list existing packages > and "yum search" or "yum provides" (and "yum install") to install new ones When in Rome ... both redhat-package and the Applications -> software management (or some such) do just what you're asking for (It's is there, but I've not played with CentOS for a month or two, and then only briefly: opinion it's much better than it used to be (package management)) James -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Anyone used either OpenCyc or Open Mind Commonsense?
Dear List, Has anyone used any open source reasoning engine? regards, Richard Hayes 0414 618 425 begin:vcard fn:Richard Hayes n:Hayes;Richard org:Nada Marketing adr:;;PO Box 12 ;Gordon;NSW;2072;Australia email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:+(61) 2 8669 9835 tel;fax:+(61) 2 9327 4908 tel;home:+(61) 2 9436 0121 tel;cell:0414 618 425 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.nada.com.au version:2.1 end:vcard -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Upgrading HP laptop BIOS without Windows, how?
Hi all, I have an HP laptop (Pavilion dv5230tx) which has a very old BIOS installed and I want to upgrade to the latest version. According to HP's change log, Core 2 Duo support wasn't added to the BIOS until the version after the one I have, even though the laptop has a Core 2 Duo processor. I've been trying to get suspend and hibernate working, and I suspect the old BIOS is part of the problem. Hibernate used to work before I had the motherboard replaced, and I'm fairly sure that the old one had a more recent BIOS. I've had a couple of other weird occasional problems which I suspect are due to the BIOS (keyboard not working after boot and mouse behaving very strangely) too. Unfortunately HP only provide updates as a package with a Windows (not DOS) program called WinFlash. I've wiped Windows off the laptop, so my only choices are to reinstall Windows (which means wiping Linux first because HP only provide "recovery" discs and I don't have a spare laptop SATA drive), or to run WinFlash with wine. I've started the program and it does appear to run, but I haven't been game to let it flash the BIOS yet. Does anyone know whether it's likely to work or if it'll turn my laptop into a brick, or is there another way to do it? Thanks, John -- I can check out all the porn I want to at home, but when I get to work, that's when I'm supposed to be surfing the web and reading USENET. -- Eric Schwartz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Epson 34 90 & Ubuntu
Hi all, I am a Linux newbie. Can anyone tell me how to get the Epson 3490 working properly in Ubuntu 7.04. The rpm drivers work fine in Fedora but if you use alien it does not work as well. I look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Lee --- South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za -- For super low premiums, click here http://www.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ?
Minh, The local login prompt is read from /etc/issue, the networked prompt from /etc/issue.net You may need to check startup scripts in /etc/rc.d whether they overwrite any changes you make here. There are special escape sequence for these files that you can google for that are used as replacable vars for things like the hostname, username, date, etc That is a pretty ancient version of Redhat you are playing with!! Martin On 9/17/07, Minh Van Le <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm trying to remember how to change my remote "login:" prompt in Red Hat > 6.2. > > Here's the tty# local login screen with the hostname "sandbox" preceding > the > "login:" prompt: > > Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) > Kernel 2.2.14-5.0 on an i586 > sandbox login: > > But when I try to connect remotely (ie. via ssh/telnet) I get a "login:" > prompt without the hostname: > > Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) > Kernel 2.2.14-5.0 on an i586 > login: > > I've tried altering the default mingetty's in /etc/inittab to "mgetty -p > '@ > login: ' tty1" but it gives me some kind of AT modem string and I'm unable > to enter a username/password at all. I also don't think changing tty1 to > pts/0 etc would work. > > Does anybody know how to customize the remote "login:" prompt in Red Hat ? > > Do I have to change something in inetd.conf ? > > Thanks ! > > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- Regards, Martin Martin Visser -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] How do I customize the login: prompt ?
I'm trying to remember how to change my remote "login:" prompt in Red Hat 6.2. Here's the tty# local login screen with the hostname "sandbox" preceding the "login:" prompt: Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) Kernel 2.2.14-5.0 on an i586 sandbox login: But when I try to connect remotely (ie. via ssh/telnet) I get a "login:" prompt without the hostname: Red Hat Linux release 6.2 (Zoot) Kernel 2.2.14-5.0 on an i586 login: I've tried altering the default mingetty's in /etc/inittab to "mgetty -p '@ login: ' tty1" but it gives me some kind of AT modem string and I'm unable to enter a username/password at all. I also don't think changing tty1 to pts/0 etc would work. Does anybody know how to customize the remote "login:" prompt in Red Hat ? Do I have to change something in inetd.conf ? Thanks ! -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Free/Open Source Research
Hi and thank you Lindsay, The questionnaire is available here : http://orthonormed.free.fr Have a nice day! Nordine 2007/9/14, Lindsay Holmwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > G'day Nordine, > You can post a link to your questionnaire to our main mailing list at > slug@slug.org.au > > Thanks a bunch! > > Lindsay > > On 9/14/07, Nordine BENKELTOUM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm carrying out a study on Free/open source software. > > > > Given the fact that the LUGs gather specialists of this topic, could you > ask > > your members to take part in our research project by filling in the > > following questionnaire available on this link : > > > > http://orthonormed.free.fr > > > > Don't hesitate to transmit the questionnaire to your colleagues or > members > > of the communities in which you're involved. > > > > Thank you for your participation. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Nordine BENKELTOUM > > PhD student > > Center for Organization and Management Sciences > > Ecole des Mines de Paris > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > http://slug.org.au/ (the Sydney Linux Users Group) > http://holmwood.id.au/~lindsay/ (me) > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Does Berkeley "error" still exist?
On 16/09/2007, at 10:33 PM, Luke Kendall wrote: Rick Welykochy wrote: Luke Kendall wrote: Rick Welykochy wrote: Any relation to perror() ? http://www.penguin-soft.com/penguin/man/3/perror.html?manpath=/ man/man3/perror.3.inc No, none whatsoever. :-) perror() is a system call for use in programs. "error" is an executable for use from the command line or scripts. If you have a program that processes a source file (e.g. gcc and .c files, or groff and the Mss for an article), and the program reports lots of errors, then "error" can edit the source file to insert the etxt of each error just before the line that has the error. Then you edit the source file, visiting each error and fixing it up. This saves you from flipping between two files. It's one of those traditional Unix small utilities that does one thing well. An interesting detective challenge. I began searching on google for the following: "error utility" "error message" "source code" which produced 240 results. Chasing up one on the SLUG list ... http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2003/05/msg00896.html * To: Sydney Linux Users Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Subject: [SLUG] Anyone know where to find the "error" utility? * From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 15:08:44 +1000 (EST) Further searching turned up this page in the CVS attic for the BSD utility: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/usr.bin/error/Attic/ And this: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2003/05/msg00909.html where you proposed porting the thing to Linux. And that is where I stopped searching. Good luck. Perhaps you can find the sources you need in the Attic. cheers rickw Strewth! You're right! When I followed teh attic link, and started preparing the natural place to store the source files, I found the directory already existed with all the sources in it already! I guess that means I'd better get off my behind, and have a go! It is still included as a FreeBSD port, so you if you need a distfile try: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/dd/ error-20010616.tar.gz -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html