[SLUG] IOWait definition

2008-10-07 Thread Grant Street

Hello

I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction for 
some doco?


I'm finding it hard to get a definition of what constitutes IOWait.
I know that IOwait is CPU time waiting for IO to happen to physical 
local disks, but I'm unsure about the following scenarios and if they 
contribute to IOWait:


- CPU time waiting for an NFS read/write to occur
- CPU time waiting for a network buffer to be read/written to. eg 
waiting for a full buffer to clear.

- Anything else??

Grant

PS. How do you set/query the network buffers in Linux?

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[SLUG] Atom Processor - what distro works?

2008-10-07 Thread billb
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  I'm in Osaka at present. Looking at buying  mini-itx mobo that has
atom cpu.
 Is there a distro that works  with this cpu?
 Centos? The EEE PC has an atom cpu doesnt it?
 Sorry for asking rather than  searching - having laptop problems (or
Hotel LAN problems).
 Thanks
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Re: [SLUG] Atom Processor - what distro works?

2008-10-07 Thread Ken Wilson
I have an eee pc running on ubuntu eee, it ran fine on xandros, and 
there are numerous other distros for it, fedora, mandriva opensuse?. 
People have made eee specific kernels  such as the ubuntu eee thqt have 
the drivers .

Ken

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  BODY { font-family:Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12px; }
  I'm in Osaka at present. Looking at buying  mini-itx mobo that has
atom cpu.
 Is there a distro that works  with this cpu?
 Centos? The EEE PC has an atom cpu doesnt it?
 Sorry for asking rather than  searching - having laptop problems (or
Hotel LAN problems).
 Thanks

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Re: [SLUG] Atom Processor - what distro works?

2008-10-07 Thread Dion

Osaka! I am envious!

I believe, the latest kernels support the Atom processor very well. I 
can't see why a distro would need to explicitly support it. Any x86 
distro should work, as long as the kernel recognises the atom.


Are they selling the dual core atoms in mini-itx mobos now?

Have fun.
D.

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 Centos? The EEE PC has an atom cpu doesnt it?
 Sorry for asking rather than  searching - having laptop problems (or
Hotel LAN problems).
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Re: [SLUG] Comp TIA+ / CLP

2008-10-07 Thread Morgan Storey
Last I looked in my VUE page you can book the exams at any VUE testing
centre too.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 In order to sit for the LPIC 101 and 102 exams basically used  the LPI
 Linux
 Certification in a Nutshell  book from O'Reilly -
 http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283/ as well as the exam prep
 material
 from https://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1

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Re: [SLUG] IOWait definition

2008-10-07 Thread Daniel Pittman
Grant Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction for
 some doco?

I don't know of any, but ...

 I'm finding it hard to get a definition of what constitutes IOWait.
 I know that IOwait is CPU time waiting for IO to happen to physical local
 disks, but I'm unsure about the following scenarios and if they contribute to
 IOWait:

Not quite.  IOWait is a *software* state, indicating that a process or
thread is blocked waiting for I/O to complete.

This is different from CPU time waiting for ... in that it implies the
software is making no progress, but *NOT* that your CPU is spending
cycles working on it.[1]

 - CPU time waiting for an NFS read/write to occur

Yes, along with more or less any other disk I/O that happens to be run
over the network -- as long as it is synchronous, and something is
waiting on it.

 - CPU time waiting for a network buffer to be read/written to. eg waiting for
   a full buffer to clear.

Generally not.  I am not certain about blocking on a full buffer
condition for sending data, but not for blocking while reading.

 - Anything else??

Any other synchronous disk I/O, certainly.  Probably certain other,
related, conditions where the kernel developers feel that the process is
blocked on I/O.

 PS. How do you set/query the network buffers in Linux?

Via the socket fcntl / ioctl interface, or via the sysctls in
/proc/sys/net, which are documented in the standard Linux kernel sysctl
documentation.


All that said, you might want to tell us why you are asking, not just
what, since I suspect there is a question about why you have so much
IOWait time on your system, or poor performance?

Regards,
Daniel

Footnotes: 
[1]  It does, technically, spend a few in terms of submitting and
 completing the I/O before it wakes up the blocked process, and
 various I/O devices need babysitting, but the principal is sound. ;)

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Re: [SLUG] Comp TIA+ / CLP

2008-10-07 Thread Blindraven
Some of the issues I am having is how much of any given subject in the LPI
in a nutshell I need to know.
It starts off with pretty intense Hardware stuff and I was under the
impression that it was a different field altogether. I can see why it's
relative but I certainly was not expecting it.

A course would be my best option, one that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.
I.e one that does not yet exist.

That, or someone/people that live close by that want to a form a study
group.
-  I may just post this idea and hope there are those that are keen.

Tony.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Morgan Storey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Last I looked in my VUE page you can book the exams at any VUE testing
 centre too.

 On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:10 AM, Martin Visser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  In order to sit for the LPIC 101 and 102 exams basically used  the LPI
  Linux
  Certification in a Nutshell  book from O'Reilly -
  http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596005283/ as well as the exam prep
  material
  from https://www.lpi.org/eng/certification/the_lpic_program/lpic_1
 
  Regards, Martin
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