[SLUG] yum update TypeError: unsubscriptable object

2009-07-19 Thread lists
From: Voytek Eymont li...@sbt.net.au
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I'm trying to run 'yum update' on centos but it fails with screensfule of
failures like:

--
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 861, in
getProvides
return self._search(provides, name, flags, version)
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 43, in
newFunc
return func(*args, **kwargs)
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 837, in
_search
for pkg in self.searchFiles(name, strict=True):
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 43, in
newFunc
return func(*args, **kwargs)
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 586, in
searchFiles
self._sql_pkgKey2po(rep, cur, pkgs)
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 470, in
_sql_pkgKey2po
pkg = self._packageByKey(repo, ob['pkgKey'])
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 413, in
_packageByKey
po = self.pc(repo, cur.fetchone())
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 68, in
__init__
self._read_db_obj(db_obj)
  File /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/sqlitesack.py, line 94, in
_read_db_obj
setattr(self, item, _share_data(db_obj[item]))
TypeError: unsubscriptable object
[r...@centos ~]#

any suggestion ?

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread peter
 Amos == Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com writes:

Amos Hello,

Amos I'm looking for an Ethernet hub to be used for network
Amos troubleshooting (trying to find which of our hosts is involved
Amos in the load on our office uplink).


You probably need a switch with port mirroring.  You can pick up HP
Procurve 100Mb switches second hand pretty cheap on eBay.  They have a
lifetime warranty from HP, so are pretty safe to buy.

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread peter
 peter == peter  pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au writes:

 Amos == Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com writes:
Amos Hello,

Amos I'm looking for an Ethernet hub to be used for network
Amos troubleshooting (trying to find which of our hosts is involved
Amos in the load on our office uplink).

If you really want a hub, you're mostly stuck with 10Mb/s -- most
100Mb gear does 10/100 and switching.  Even if it's *called* a hub.

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Matt Hope
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 09:36, Amos Shapiraamos.shap...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm looking for an Ethernet hub to be used for network troubleshooting
 (trying to find which of our hosts is involved in the load on our
 office uplink).

Would something like this be useful instead?

http://www.enigmacurry.com/articles/building-an-ethernet-tap/

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Visser
Amos,

Of course if you purely want to find out the top talkers by IP, probably
the industry-standard of way of doing is to in the longer term is to have
your router send netflow stats to a collection server. Pretty much any
business level router will do this. And if you have chosen a Linksys WRT
type of router you run DD-WRT or OpenWRT on it and it will also have a
netflow (or a clone, DD-WRT uses rflowd). Netflow stats can then be
captured and processed with flow-tools (for scrit based processing) or Ntop
which gives a more graphical way of viewing things.

The custom WRT firmware can also run tcpdump which can be used for detailed
analysis by Wireshark.

So depending on your choice of routers you may not even need a hub or
port-mirroring switch.

Regards, Martin

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Sun, July 19, 2009 7:55 pm, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:
 Amos == Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com writes:

 lifetime warranty from HP, so are pretty safe to buy.

lifetime=/life time
what's a lifetime of such, as defined by HP?

I used to have some SMC ISA NICs with lifetime warranty, when one
failed, I've called SMC to have it replaced:

'that card is over 5 years old'
'the liftetime of that product is 5 years'


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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/7/19 Matt Hope matt.h...@gmail.com

 On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 09:36, Amos Shapiraamos.shap...@gmail.com wrote:
  I'm looking for an Ethernet hub to be used for network troubleshooting
  (trying to find which of our hosts is involved in the load on our
  office uplink).

 Would something like this be useful instead?

 http://www.enigmacurry.com/articles/building-an-ethernet-tap/

Yes very much.
Now I have to find a way to build it since I don't have the resources
(tools, time) to do it myself.

Cheers,

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sun, Jul 19, 2009, Amos Shapira wrote:
 2009/7/19 Matt Hope matt.h...@gmail.com
 
  On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 09:36, Amos Shapiraamos.shap...@gmail.com wrote:
   I'm looking for an Ethernet hub to be used for network troubleshooting
   (trying to find which of our hosts is involved in the load on our
   office uplink).
 
  Would something like this be useful instead?
 
  http://www.enigmacurry.com/articles/building-an-ethernet-tap/
 
 Yes very much.
 Now I have to find a way to build it since I don't have the resources
 (tools, time) to do it myself.

Doesn't this break the relevant electrical specifications for ethernet
over twisted pair? :)

It may work, but ethernet certainly isn't intended to work this way.
Who knows what the side effects will be.




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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Martin Visser
Actually it is pretty straight forward -  For as long as you own the
product, - http://www.procurve.com/customercare/support/warranty

Basically if it breaks due to  defects in materials and workmanship, they'll
fix it (as long as you didn't break it by the way it was operated or
maintanedt).

(Yes, I do work for HP, but I am not speaking on their behalf  - read all
the warranty conditions for yourself or in the presence of a lawyer ;-) )

Regards, Martin

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On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Voytek Eymont li...@sbt.net.au wrote:


 On Sun, July 19, 2009 7:55 pm, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:
  Amos == Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com writes:

  lifetime warranty from HP, so are pretty safe to buy.

 lifetime=/life time
 what's a lifetime of such, as defined by HP?

 I used to have some SMC ISA NICs with lifetime warranty, when one
 failed, I've called SMC to have it replaced:

 'that card is over 5 years old'
 'the liftetime of that product is 5 years'


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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Sun, July 19, 2009 11:08 pm, Martin Visser wrote:
 Actually it is pretty straight forward -  For as long as you own the
 product, - http://www.procurve.com/customercare/support/warranty

 Basically if it breaks due to  defects in materials and workmanship,
 they'll fix it (as long as you didn't break it by the way it was operated
 or maintanedt).

 (Yes, I do work for HP, but I am not speaking on their behalf  - read all
  the warranty conditions for yourself or in the presence of a lawyer ;-)

Martin,

that certainly sounds better than SMC's definition

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Amos Shapira
2009/7/19 Martin Visser martinvisse...@gmail.com:
 Amos,

 Of course if you purely want to find out the top talkers by IP, probably
 the industry-standard of way of doing is to in the longer term is to have
 your router send netflow stats to a collection server. Pretty much any

We have SonicWall TZ 190. So far I haven't found in its docs how to
configure port mirroring or netflow. I'll try to catch their support
today.

Thanks,

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Kevin Shackleton
On Sun, 2009-07-19 at 20:08 +1000, pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au wrote:
 Even if it's *called* a hub.

The comms technical literature I have on the hardware generally calls
all hubs hubs - after all that's what they are isn't it - as in the
centre of a wagon-wheel?  All hubs these days are switching hubs to
which of course reduce the visibility of packets to third parties on the
LAN.  When you're in a hurry you say switch but it's still a hub.

Kevin.

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Re: [SLUG] where to get an Ethernet hub (NOT a switch)

2009-07-19 Thread Glen Turner

On 19/07/09 09:06, Amos Shapira wrote:

Hello,

I'm looking for an Ethernet hub to be used for network troubleshooting
(trying to find which of our hosts is involved in the load on our
office uplink).


I hung on to a old 10Base-T hub for exactly this purpose, and as a
wireshark capture from Linux less and less replicates what appears
on the wire (due to network cards becoming smarter and smarter) it
is worthwhile.

You'd be luck to find a 100Mbps hub, there were simply too few made
compared with 100Mbps switches.

You can use a switch in monitor or span (a Cisco-ism) mode, and
pretty much all enterprise class 100Base-TX switches have
that feature.  You may not want them for a home network, because
they produce enterprise-class noise.

If you are looking at this for security purposes, then note that
there are well-known defeats for switch-based monitoring. The
usual approach for that application is either a RJ-45 electrical
tap or a 1000Base-LX optical splitter. The optical splitter having
the advantage of being unpowered and misbehaviour of the monitoring
interface being unable to pull down the monitored interface. So
an optical tap is the usual choice for enterprise, but you're looking
at 3 SFPs (say, $900-$3000), 2 taps ($400), and 2 SFP-carrying PC
ethernet interfaces ($600), and various optical cables ($400).

I strongly encourage our university customers to attach to
AARNet via an optical tap, even if they don't currently have a
monitoring machine attached.

You can buy the RJ45 taps from various security suppliers. The
best ones are powered with the two MII/GMII interfaces basically
wired to each other. You might find the search terms calea and
lawful interception useful.

The wired one someone posted to this thread should work at 100Mbps,
but will fail at GbE. The system relies upon the combined capacitance
of the system being small, so use Cat6 and keep all cables short. It's
too dodgy for enterprise use, as any component failure (perhaps even
powering off one of the nodes) would pull down the monitored link.

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