Re: [SLUG] Kogan Agora Netbooks
Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Any thoughts on these? Powering the Kogan Agora Netbook is gOS, a very aesthetically pleasing, powerful, intuitive, and fast operating system. Combined with the power and great value of our hardware, it brings you one step closer to cloud computing. gOS facilitates easy access to a number of Google™ services as well as a host of easy to use, powerful open source programs. http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/kogan-agora-netbook/ http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/kogan-agora-netbook-pro/ Marghanita, I realise you posted this message quite a while ago now, but I've recently purchased four of the Agora Pro Netbooks and if you're still considering purchase I thought you might be interested in my comments. In summary I'm really very happy with them. They're surprisingly solidly built for a machine of their class. They feel well-built with no flimsiness and I suspect you'd have to try pretty hard to do any real physical damage to them. The operating system has been well localised for Australia and is Ubuntu 8.04 based. The 8.04 is a little out of date, but the update process is obvious and works as expected. It was almost disappointing to discover that I didn't need/want to do much after creating my login account to customise it; the setup is quite sensible. All I ended up doing was disabling the Google gadgets on the desktop because they're not to my taste and installing a few application package that I like to use. I find the keyboard quite comfortable to use, with the possible exception of the '/' key being a little awkward to get to from some angles. The touchpad works well, but again, from some angles I find that my thumbs sometime accidentally stray onto it while I'm typing. I'm sure both of these problems will dissipate with time as I become more familiar with it. Wireless/sound work as expected. Bluetooth, as you will know, manifests as a small USB dongle which I haven't yet tried, but suspect will work just fine. The screen is quite pretty, with default fonts small but readable even for someone rapidly turning middle-aged and both short and far-sighted :) Happy to field any particular questions you (or others) might have. regards Terry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Kogan Agora Netbooks
2009/7/23 Terry Dawson t...@animats.net: I find the keyboard quite comfortable to use, with the possible exception of the '/' key being a little awkward to get to from some angles. The touchpad works well, but again, from some angles I find that my thumbs sometime accidentally stray onto it while I'm typing. I'm sure both of these problems will dissipate with time as I become more familiar with it. There are a few ways to auto-disable touchpad while you type. I don't remember the one installed on my laptop (it's in the office) but found touchfreeze on Ubunutu 9.04 which seems to achieve the same - on my laptop this was a life saver: Description: tray icon that disables your touchpad while typing Touchfreeze docks in your system tray and disables your touchpad while typing. It re-enables your touchpad when typing stops, using a configurable delay time. Thanks for the review. It was a very interesting and useful read. Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Kogan Agora Netbooks
How does battery life fare? Dean Terry Dawson wrote: Marghanita da Cruz wrote: Any thoughts on these? Powering the Kogan Agora Netbook is gOS, a very aesthetically pleasing, powerful, intuitive, and fast operating system. Combined with the power and great value of our hardware, it brings you one step closer to cloud computing. gOS facilitates easy access to a number of Google™ services as well as a host of easy to use, powerful open source programs. http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/kogan-agora-netbook/ http://www.kogan.com.au/shop/kogan-agora-netbook-pro/ Marghanita, I realise you posted this message quite a while ago now, but I've recently purchased four of the Agora Pro Netbooks and if you're still considering purchase I thought you might be interested in my comments. In summary I'm really very happy with them. They're surprisingly solidly built for a machine of their class. They feel well-built with no flimsiness and I suspect you'd have to try pretty hard to do any real physical damage to them. The operating system has been well localised for Australia and is Ubuntu 8.04 based. The 8.04 is a little out of date, but the update process is obvious and works as expected. It was almost disappointing to discover that I didn't need/want to do much after creating my login account to customise it; the setup is quite sensible. All I ended up doing was disabling the Google gadgets on the desktop because they're not to my taste and installing a few application package that I like to use. I find the keyboard quite comfortable to use, with the possible exception of the '/' key being a little awkward to get to from some angles. The touchpad works well, but again, from some angles I find that my thumbs sometime accidentally stray onto it while I'm typing. I'm sure both of these problems will dissipate with time as I become more familiar with it. Wireless/sound work as expected. Bluetooth, as you will know, manifests as a small USB dongle which I haven't yet tried, but suspect will work just fine. The screen is quite pretty, with default fonts small but readable even for someone rapidly turning middle-aged and both short and far-sighted :) Happy to field any particular questions you (or others) might have. regards Terry -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] iptables error msg
Hi, I keep getting Setting up IPtables rules Using intrapositioned negation (`--option ! this`) is deprecated in favor of extrapositioned (`! --option this`). Bad argument `ACCEPT' Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. Bad argument `ACCEPT' Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. .. but 'ACCEPT' appears in many places in iptables. What would it be referring to ? I have attached my version of iptables (courtesy of Ekiga). Adam. #!/bin/sh echo Setting up IPtables rules IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables # where iptables binary lies # Setting up Forwarding echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward # Setting up Dynamic IP for diald/masquerading echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr # Increase the binding time echo 3600 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_udp_timeout # Setting up IP spoofing protection if [ -e /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter ] then for f in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/rp_filter do echo 1 $f done fi # Devices LOCAL_DEVICE=lo # device for localhost EXTERNAL_DEVICE=eth0 # device for Internet #INTERNAL_DEVICE=eth1 # device for Intranet HALFTRUST_NETS=192.168.1.0/8 KEEPSTATE=-m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED # Flush all Rules $IPTABLES -F $IPTABLES -X $IPTABLES -t nat -F $IPTABLES -t nat -X $IPTABLES -t mangle -F $IPTABLES -t mangle -X # Deny all by default $IPTABLES -P INPUT DROP $IPTABLES -P OUTPUT DROP $IPTABLES -P FORWARD ACCEPT $IPTABLES -N ALLOW_PORTS $IPTABLES -F ALLOW_PORTS ## TCP and UDP ports ## TCP_PORTS= for PORT in $TCP_PORTS; do $IPTABLES -A ALLOW_PORTS -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport $PORT -j ACCEPT done UDP_PORTS= for PORT in $UDP_PORTS; do $IPTABLES -A ALLOW_PORTS -m state --state NEW -p udp --dport $PORT -j ACCEPT done ## MASQUERADE ## $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -d ! 192.168.1.0/24 -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -j MASQUERADE ## LOCALHOST ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ALL -i $LOCAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ALL -o $LOCAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -p ALL -i $LOCAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT ## FROM INTRANET ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ALL -i $INTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ALL -o $INTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT ## ICMP ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ICMP -i $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ICMP -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ICMP -s $HALFTRUST_NETS -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ICMP -d $HALFTRUST_NETS -j ACCEPT ## ALLOWED PORTS ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -s 0.0.0.0/0 -j ALLOW_PORTS ## ESTABLISHED MODE ## $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p TCP $KEEPSTATE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p TCP $KEEPSTATE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p UDP $KEEPSTATE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p UDP $KEEPSTATE -j ACCEPT ## OUTPUT ## $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p ALL -j ACCEPT -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Kogan Agora Netbooks
2009/7/23 Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com: 2009/7/23 Terry Dawson t...@animats.net: I find the keyboard quite comfortable to use, with the possible exception of the '/' key being a little awkward to get to from some angles. The touchpad works well, but again, from some angles I find that my thumbs sometime accidentally stray onto it while I'm typing. I'm sure both of these problems will dissipate with time as I become more familiar with it. There are a few ways to auto-disable touchpad while you type. I don't remember the one installed on my laptop (it's in the office) but found touchfreeze on Ubunutu 9.04 which seems to achieve the same - on my laptop this was a life saver: I'm going from memory here as I'm not on my laptop right now, but I'm pretty sure there's an option for this built into the mouse settings in GNOME (System Preferences Mouse). -- Bring choice back to your computer. http://www.linux.org.au/linux -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] iptables error msg
Adam Bogacki a...@paradise.net.nz writes: Setting up IPtables rules Using intrapositioned negation (`--option ! this`) is deprecated in favor of extrapositioned (`! --option this`). Bad argument `ACCEPT' Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. Bad argument `ACCEPT' Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. .. but 'ACCEPT' appears in many places in iptables. What would it be referring to ? I have attached my version of iptables (courtesy of Ekiga). Nothing obvious leaps out; perhaps you can find out by running: sh -x /path/to/script 21 That should show you the commands before they are run, along with the error messages, and let you identify which command it was generated the error. Regards, Daniel -- ✣ Daniel Pittman✉ dan...@rimspace.net☎ +61 401 155 707 ♽ made with 100 percent post-consumer electrons -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] iptables error msg
Hi Adam, You are using an undefined variable on the lines below - ## FROM INTRANET ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ALL -i $INTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ALL -o $INTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT - INTERNAL_DEVICE variable is not defined, it is commented at the beginning of the script #INTERNAL_DEVICE=eth1 # device for Intranet Rodolfo Martínez On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Adam Bogackia...@paradise.net.nz wrote: Hi, I keep getting Setting up IPtables rules Using intrapositioned negation (`--option ! this`) is deprecated in favor of extrapositioned (`! --option this`). Bad argument `ACCEPT' Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. Bad argument `ACCEPT' Try `iptables -h' or 'iptables --help' for more information. .. but 'ACCEPT' appears in many places in iptables. What would it be referring to ? I have attached my version of iptables (courtesy of Ekiga). Adam. #!/bin/sh echo Setting up IPtables rules IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables # where iptables binary lies # Setting up Forwarding echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward # Setting up Dynamic IP for diald/masquerading echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr # Increase the binding time echo 3600 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_conntrack_udp_timeout # Setting up IP spoofing protection if [ -e /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter ] then for f in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/rp_filter do echo 1 $f done fi # Devices LOCAL_DEVICE=lo # device for localhost EXTERNAL_DEVICE=eth0 # device for Internet #INTERNAL_DEVICE=eth1 # device for Intranet HALFTRUST_NETS=192.168.1.0/8 KEEPSTATE=-m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED # Flush all Rules $IPTABLES -F $IPTABLES -X $IPTABLES -t nat -F $IPTABLES -t nat -X $IPTABLES -t mangle -F $IPTABLES -t mangle -X # Deny all by default $IPTABLES -P INPUT DROP $IPTABLES -P OUTPUT DROP $IPTABLES -P FORWARD ACCEPT $IPTABLES -N ALLOW_PORTS $IPTABLES -F ALLOW_PORTS ## TCP and UDP ports ## TCP_PORTS= for PORT in $TCP_PORTS; do $IPTABLES -A ALLOW_PORTS -m state --state NEW -p tcp --dport $PORT -j ACCEPT done UDP_PORTS= for PORT in $UDP_PORTS; do $IPTABLES -A ALLOW_PORTS -m state --state NEW -p udp --dport $PORT -j ACCEPT done ## MASQUERADE ## $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -d ! 192.168.1.0/24 -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -j MASQUERADE ## LOCALHOST ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ALL -i $LOCAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ALL -o $LOCAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -p ALL -i $LOCAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT ## FROM INTRANET ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ALL -i $INTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ALL -o $INTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT ## ICMP ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ICMP -i $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ICMP -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p ICMP -s $HALFTRUST_NETS -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -p ICMP -d $HALFTRUST_NETS -j ACCEPT ## ALLOWED PORTS ## $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -s 0.0.0.0/0 -j ALLOW_PORTS ## ESTABLISHED MODE ## $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p TCP $KEEPSTATE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p TCP $KEEPSTATE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p UDP $KEEPSTATE -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p UDP $KEEPSTATE -j ACCEPT ## OUTPUT ## $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $EXTERNAL_DEVICE -p ALL -j ACCEPT -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] linux.conf.au 2010: extension of CFP deadline to 31 July
Hi everyone: The linux.conf.au deadline is now on the 31 July at 0500 UTC (1700 New Zealand time). Other times around the world can be found at http://tinyurl.com/lca10cfp --- Announcement from http://www.lca2010.org.nz/media/news/65 WELLINGTON, New Zealand – Friday 24 July 2009 – The LCA2010 Organising Committee have been overwhelmed by the numbers and quality of the papers submitted to linux.conf.au so far! The success of the papers so far has put us in a generous mood. So we've decided to give all you slackers out there an extension on the Call for Papers by one week! Call for Papers Now Closing: Friday 31 July 2009 at 17:00 NZST Remember, to increase your chances of acceptance, check out the Papers Info[1] page on our website before submitting your paper. [1] http://www.lca2010.org.nz/programme/papers_info -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
