Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread darrin hodges
The aircrack-ng http://www.aircrack-ng.org/ suit contains a utility that
will list AP's.  It never ceases to amaze me how many open networks there
still are out there, that and loads of people still use WEP.

Darrin.

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 3:59 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo
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 wrote:

 Hi all,

 Does anyone know tool to list all local wifi access points with their
 channel numbers and encryption types? Preferably command line (but I'm
 running Gnome with network manager on a Debian system if there is
 something that fits in with that).

 Cheers,
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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
darrin hodges wrote:

 The aircrack-ng http://www.aircrack-ng.org/ suit contains a utility that
 will list AP's.

Sorry, any program whose getting started tutorial [0] has a first
step of Determine the chipset in your wireless card is going in
the wrong direction.

I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

Erik

[0] http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=getting_started)

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread darrin hodges
Who said anything about 'cracking' other people's wifi? Airodump-ng is an
audit utility and is similar to kismet, it will tell you all the AP's in the
area including the channel that they are on.  The best way to determine if
it works is simply to try it, I did not bother about working out the
chipset.  You'll find that most of them work with either kismet or
airodump-ng.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Erik de Castro Lopo
mle+s...@mega-nerd.commle%2bs...@mega-nerd.com
 wrote:

 darrin hodges wrote:

  The aircrack-ng http://www.aircrack-ng.org/ suit contains a utility
 that
  will list AP's.

 Sorry, any program whose getting started tutorial [0] has a first
 step of Determine the chipset in your wireless card is going in
 the wrong direction.

 I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
 I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
 least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

 Erik

 [0] http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=getting_started)

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010, Erik de Castro Lopo wrote:
 darrin hodges wrote:
 
  The aircrack-ng http://www.aircrack-ng.org/ suit contains a utility that
  will list AP's.
 
 Sorry, any program whose getting started tutorial [0] has a first
 step of Determine the chipset in your wireless card is going in
 the wrong direction.
 
 I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
 I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
 least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

* get a windows box with a wireless card
* grab inssider
* run inssider
* done/done.



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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Mick Pollard
Hello all,


On Mon, 4 Oct 2010 17:15:55 +1100
Erik de Castro Lopo mle+s...@mega-nerd.com wrote:

 I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
 I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
 least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

If you have an Android phone then there is a great app that does everything you 
have asked for plus some more.
http://www.android.com/market/#app=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer

It even has a mode that will suggest the best channel for you.

 
 Erik
 
 [0] http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=getting_started)
 
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[SLUG] SyPy Oct 7th: Trending/monitoring world tour - Alan Milligan Mark Rees open

2010-10-04 Thread Dylan Jay

NOTE: Change of venue. Details and RSVP http://anyvite.com/0fbgnt6lnq

Slightly different format this time. We'll be looking at what happens  
once your deployment goes live and what tools can help.


6:15: Arrive - Anchor Systems, Level 4, 81 York Street

6:30: Zenoss - Alan Milligan

7:00: Eddie - Mark Rees

7:30 Open lightning talks for other solutions, cacti, munin, nagios  
etc. Register below.


8:00 Social networking and beers and dinner at PJ Obriens

Zenoss:

This presentation will provide a whirlwind demonstration of Zenoss's  
features and then concentrate upon how to write your own ZenPack/ 
Python module extension


Alan Milligan is the principal technical architect of Last Bastion  
Network Solutions in Australia. His background is in applications  
development and infrastructure in retail and investment banking. Alan  
is uniquely placed to present Zenoss because the open source  
architecture upon which it's based, Zope, has been the core of Last  
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The EDDIE Tool:

(http://code.google.com/p/eddie-tool/) is a systemmonitoring, security  
and performance analysis agent written 100% inPython. Its key features  
are portability, powerful configuration andease of expansion.  
Monitoring rules are just like Python expressions.


Mark Rees is CTO at Century Software

Other Tools

Please considering doing a lightning talk on your favorite monitoring  
tool. Suggestions are on the RSVP form.


Further Details:

We will also have slots for 5 minute lightning talks. If you think its  
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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread dave b
 * get a windows box with a wireless card
 * grab inssider
 * run inssider
 * done/done.


... Yes that works. However, imho the windows part is a real turn off ;)
You know kismet runs on a lot of os's ...
http://www.kismetwireless.net/screenshot.shtml

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Daniel Pittman
Erik de Castro Lopo mle+s...@mega-nerd.com writes:
 darrin hodges wrote:

 The aircrack-ng http://www.aircrack-ng.org/ suit contains a utility that
 will list AP's.

 Sorry, any program whose getting started tutorial [0] has a first
 step of Determine the chipset in your wireless card is going in
 the wrong direction.

 I have absolutely no interest in cracking other peoples wifi. What
 I'd like to do if figure out which channel in my local area is the
 least congested so I can park my AP on that channel.

Cool.  Don't forget that if you are using 2.4GHz there are *three* channels,
no matter what the card says: only 1, 6, and 11 are non-overlapping, so you
will get a performance hit from anything that crosses over between them.

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Re: [SLUG] Listing local wifi access points?

2010-10-04 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Mon, Oct 04, 2010, dave b wrote:
  * get a windows box with a wireless card
  * grab inssider
  * run inssider
  * done/done.
 
 
 ... Yes that works. However, imho the windows part is a real turn off ;)

Only if don't already have it installed. :)

 You know kismet runs on a lot of os's ...
 http://www.kismetwireless.net/screenshot.shtml

.. but having to pick the right monitor mode for the right card just to get
it to work was an absolute pain.

I finally managed to get it working on my netbook w/ an atheros chipset; but
it was fiddly. And I'm -hacking- on the wireless code at the moment. :)
(I then just rebooted back into XP mode to run inssider, as all I wanted was
RSSIs.)

That said, Kismet is great if you want to do detailed wireless debugging. :)
It just isn't easy. :)

That (all) said, it wouldn't be hard to write a *NIX Inssider clone; it
just uses the card-reported RSSI from channel scans. Kismet does a lot more
and thus wants monitor/intercept/debugging modes (which is why it's fiddly.)


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[SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook?

2010-10-04 Thread Voytek Eymont
a daughter of a friend asked me if it's possible to run applications from
a USB memory stick; I asked her what was it that she wants to run, she
told me 'cygwin, to run some c code'

I said 'why don't you boot your Acer netbook from a Linux on SD media

now what is asking what Linux should she get ?

so, what distro should I suggest for a uni student to 'run some c code' on
an Acer netbook ?

I did a brief search, came across Moblin, is that a good choice ?


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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook?

2010-10-04 Thread darrin hodges
You could have a look at these

http://spins.fedoraproject.org/lxde/
http://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/

I have lxde on a asus eeepc. You can you use either fedora's liveusb creator
or ubuntu's Unetbootin to create a bootable usb system.


On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Voytek Eymont li...@sbt.net.au wrote:

 a daughter of a friend asked me if it's possible to run applications from
 a USB memory stick; I asked her what was it that she wants to run, she
 told me 'cygwin, to run some c code'

 I said 'why don't you boot your Acer netbook from a Linux on SD media

 now what is asking what Linux should she get ?

 so, what distro should I suggest for a uni student to 'run some c code' on
 an Acer netbook ?

 I did a brief search, came across Moblin, is that a good choice ?


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[SLUG] Auto Reboot ADSL modem ??

2010-10-04 Thread gonzo01
Lately I have had my connection drop out late at night, which causes 
auto-download via JDownloader to fail with no internet connection message.


I have JDownloader set to auto-reboot the modem  from file hosters such 
as rapidshare ( for free downloads) and this will work fine normally.


However, when I am using a paid-for premium account on a file hoster 
this does not occur.


I am aware that my system can be set to auto-ping my connection on at a 
predetermined interval which is fine for just ensuring that my 
connection stays alive, and the modem can be rebooted via a script if 
the ping fails. However, if the system is working fine and downloading 
at max speed, the chances are that the ping will fail due to lack of 
band-width, which would then cause an unnecessary reboot of the modem.


Is there a daemon/script/utility ( pref GUI) that can determine whether 
or not my machine has an active connection by checking my network 
connection on Gnome NetworkManager or such?


I am using Mint 9 (Ubuntu 10.4 based).

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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook

2010-10-04 Thread james
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 05:18:47 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 a daughter of a friend asked me if it's possible to run applications from
 a USB memory stick; I asked her what was it that she wants to run, she
 told me 'cygwin, to run some c code'
 
 I said 'why don't you boot your Acer netbook from a Linux on SD media
 
 now what is asking what Linux should she get ?
 
 so, what distro should I suggest for a uni student to 'run some c code' on
 an Acer netbook ?
 
 I did a brief search, came across Moblin, is that a good choice ?

'buntu's remix (and it really does not appeal to moi at all) does a pretty 
good job for the target market, my wife, my mother, so I'd be most tempted

(Hey 'twas even easy to tame her eee to do the stuff I wanted, like I wanted)
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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook?

2010-10-04 Thread Jon Jermey
The main obstacle is WiFi, but I believe the Acer netbooks have a 
similar WiFi setup to the Asus eee, in which case Fedora 13 should do 
the trick. There is also a netbook version of Puppy Linux that I was 
able to activate WiFi with. Ubuntu 10.4 and Mint would not recognise the 
wireless card on my Asus eee 1005 despite my following several sets of 
complicated instructions. Nor would several other distros -- I seem to 
remember Moblin was one of them.


If you use Windows on the netbook to download and install LinuxLive USB 
Creator, that makes it much easier to create and trial bootable USB 
sticks or cards -- http://www.linuxliveusb.com.


Jon.

On 05/10/10 08:18, Voytek Eymont wrote:

a daughter of a friend asked me if it's possible to run applications from
a USB memory stick; I asked her what was it that she wants to run, she
told me 'cygwin, to run some c code'

I said 'why don't you boot your Acer netbook from a Linux on SD media

now what is asking what Linux should she get ?

so, what distro should I suggest for a uni student to 'run some c code' on
an Acer netbook ?

I did a brief search, came across Moblin, is that a good choice ?



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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook

2010-10-04 Thread james
On Tuesday 05 October 2010 05:18:47 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 a daughter of a friend asked me if it's possible to run applications from
 a USB memory stick; I asked her what was it that she wants to run, she
 told me 'cygwin, to run some c code'
 
 I said 'why don't you boot your Acer netbook from a Linux on SD media
 
 now what is asking what Linux should she get ?
 
 so, what distro should I suggest for a uni student to 'run some c code' on
 an Acer netbook ?
 
 I did a brief search, came across Moblin, is that a good choice ?

Just gave moblin a whirl. If anybody has anything complimentary to say I'd 
love to hear why and what.
Thanks :-)

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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook

2010-10-04 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, October 5, 2010 11:56 am, james wrote:

 I did a brief search, came across Moblin, is that a good choice ?

 Just gave moblin a whirl. If anybody has anything complimentary to say
 I'd
 love to hear why and what. Thanks :-)

thanks, James

I did, it booted OK, bluetooth didn't seem to work, but, WiFi did

it looks quite nice

but, I couldn't mount the HD, it said something like 'NTFS fs unknown'
when I tried to 'mount -t auto /dev/sda...'

also, how does one make such 'usb' booted to 'persists' reboots ?

like, say, I want to install mc or gcc



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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook?

2010-10-04 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, October 5, 2010 11:25 am, Jon Jermey wrote:
 The main obstacle is WiFi, but I believe the Acer netbooks have a
 similar WiFi setup to the Asus eee, in which case Fedora 13 should do the
 trick. There is also a netbook version of Puppy Linux that I was able to
 activate WiFi with. Ubuntu 10.4 and Mint would not recognise the wireless
 card on my Asus eee 1005 despite my following several sets of complicated
 instructions. Nor would several other distros -- I seem to remember Moblin
 was one of them.

fwiw, both Ubuntu and Moblin found WiFi as is, no issues
(neither seemed to find bluetooth, though. must check if it's enabled)


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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook

2010-10-04 Thread Tony H.G Candito
Moblin has been discontinued and replaced with MeeGo.

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Voytek Eymont li...@sbt.net.au wrote:

 On Tue, October 5, 2010 11:56 am, james wrote:

 I did a brief search, came across Moblin, is that a good choice ?

 Just gave moblin a whirl. If anybody has anything complimentary to say
 I'd
 love to hear why and what. Thanks :-)

 thanks, James

 I did, it booted OK, bluetooth didn't seem to work, but, WiFi did

 it looks quite nice

 but, I couldn't mount the HD, it said something like 'NTFS fs unknown'
 when I tried to 'mount -t auto /dev/sda...'

 also, how does one make such 'usb' booted to 'persists' reboots ?

 like, say, I want to install mc or gcc



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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook

2010-10-04 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, October 5, 2010 12:29 pm, Tony \H.G\ Candito wrote:
 Moblin has been discontinued and replaced with MeeGo.


I tried to d/l several times, all failed
though, reading on related forums comment found were 'it's not quite
completed'



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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook

2010-10-04 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, October 5, 2010 10:46 am, james wrote:

 'buntu's remix (and it really does not appeal to moi at all) does a
 pretty good job for the target market, my wife, my mother, so I'd be most
 tempted

 (Hey 'twas even easy to tame her eee to do the stuff I wanted, like I
 wanted) James


James,

thanks

it installed and booted from SD fine, WiFi works, can access NTFS Acer
hardrive, all looks good (except bluetooth)

how do I install say 'mc' ?
'sudo apt-get mc ' says not found

how do install stuff to persist reboot ?




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Re: [SLUG] Auto Reboot ADSL modem ??

2010-10-04 Thread Nick Andrew
On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 10:33:08AM +1100, gonzo01 wrote:
 I am aware that my system can be set to auto-ping my connection on at a  
 predetermined interval which is fine for just ensuring that my  
 connection stays alive, and the modem can be rebooted via a script if  
 the ping fails. However, if the system is working fine and downloading  
 at max speed, the chances are that the ping will fail due to lack of  
 band-width, which would then cause an unnecessary reboot of the modem.

You could increase the timeout interval in the ping program; you could
send several packets (and only decide the link is down if no replies
are received); you could combine ping and counting the received bytes
on the interface (if no responses received and no bytes received on the
interface). Also PPP itself (assuming you are using ppp) can check that
the other end of the connection is alive - and if not, will exit which
would remove the default route.

Nick.
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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook

2010-10-04 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, October 5, 2010 12:59 pm, Jake Anderson wrote:

 how do install stuff to persist reboot ?

 sudo apt-get install mc

 if you want to run it then just install the full thing to the SD card not
 the live image thing.


ubu...@ubuntu:/etc$ sudo apt-get install mc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Couldn't find package mc

I guess I need to configure some additional repositories ?




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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook

2010-10-04 Thread Voytek Eymont

On Tue, October 5, 2010 1:25 pm, Jake Anderson wrote:
 On 05/10/10 13:14, Voytek Eymont wrote:

 if you are running from the livecd you need to do and apt-get update
 first it is in universe, I don't know if that is turned on by default on a
 livecd


Jake,

thanks, works (and, in pretty colors, too, unlike on the NAS that it came
up monochrome)

if you can point me where do I look for info on how to install to SD media
please do?


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Re: [SLUG] live distro for Acer netbook?

2010-10-04 Thread Michael Primrose

Voytek,

You might want to have a look at the new Zenwalk Live Edition to run on 
the netbook


http://www.zenwalk.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=117

It is fast and has a relatively small footprint in terms of both CPU and 
memory consumption (in the installed version it loads with 50 Mb of RAM 
in the init 3 mode).At the same it has most of the applications one 
would need for everyday use as well as the 2.6.33.4 kernel


http://www.zenwalk.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=107

Hope this may prove to be of use

Regards

Michael Primrose

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 8:18 AM, Voytek Eymont li...@sbt.net.au wrote:

  now what she is asking what Linux should she get ?

  so, what distro should I suggest for a uni student to 'run some c 
code' on

  an Acer netbook ?


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