Re: [SLUG] New Laptop Problems

2011-06-02 Thread Ben Donohue

Hi Bill,

have you tried booting with knoppix live cd?
(yes I know you've tried others)
Also there are winders live cd's like hirens that may boot and help 
diagnostics.


On the touchpad, sometimes there is a small button next to the touchpad 
that turns it off and on. I know... pretty obvious... but it happened to 
me once. I just wasnt' expecting a button there.
Also is there a volume wheel near the audio... yeah I know pretty 
obvious too but sometimes you see it. Also touch sensitive buttons above 
the keyboard are sometimes used to turn hardware off and on.
When the hardware is off they are sometimes not lit up. You have to know 
they are there.


Thanks,
Ben Donohue


On 2/06/2011 11:59 AM, gonzo01 wrote:
3 weeks ago I bought an MSI Cx640 laptop - 2nd Gen Sandy Bridge cpu, 
USB 3 etc.


I'm running LinuxMint 11 (latest)

Problems:-

1) cant turn off touchpad - when using mouse, pointer/entered text 
jumps all over the screen.


2) no audio from headphone/audio out port.

Excuse the long post, but here is info re system from both Mint and 
Windows 7-



MSIlaptop

$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor 
Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor 
Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation 
Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset 
Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family USB 
Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family High 
Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 1 (rev b5)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 2 (rev b5)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 4 (rev b5)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI 
Express Root Port 6 (rev b5)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family USB 
Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 05)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC 
Controller (rev 05)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family 6 
port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family SMBus 
Controller (rev 05)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0ded 
(rev a1)
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 
Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
04:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host 
Controller (rev 04)

05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Device 1083 (rev c0)


-

Mint touchpad info


linux mint 11 (HardInfo)

FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensngPad

bus0x11
vendor2
product0xf
version0x0
connected toisa0060/serio2/input0


--

System Info Win7

NameConexant SmartAudio HD
ManufacturerConexant
StatusOK
PNP Device ID
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01VEN_14F1DEV_5069SUBSYS_1462109CREV_1003\42B51D37D1
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\chdrt64.sys (8.54.0.0, 1.51 MB 
(1,581,184 bytes), 12/02/2011 12:23 AM)


NameBluetooth Audio Device
ManufacturerAtheros Communications
StatusOK
PNP Device ID
BTHENUM\{61118058-486C-4BB0-B4B8-ACE4DCADEC44}_LOCALMFG\8232D02A90_
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\btath_a2dp.sys (1.0.0.0, 294.61 
KB (301,680 bytes), 28/09/2010 5:13 AM)


NameIntel(R) Display Audio
ManufacturerIntel(R) Corporation
StatusOK
PNP Device ID
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01VEN_8086DEV_2805SUBSYS_1462109CREV_1000\42B51D37D00301
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\intcdaud.sys (6.14.0.3074, 
310.00 KB (317,440 bytes), 11/02/2011 4:11 PM)


---

Win7-Ss Info

mouse/touchpad

Hardware TypeUSB Input Device
Number of Buttons0
StatusOK
PNP Device IDUSB\VID_046DPID_C05A\617E3CC5501
Power Management SupportedNo
Double Click ThresholdNot Available
HandednessNot Available
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\hidusb.sys (6.1.7600.16385, 
29.50 KB (30,208 bytes), 14/07/2009 10:06 AM)


Hardware TypeFinger Sensing Pad
Number of Buttons0
StatusOK
PNP Device IDACPI\STLC060\41A1D06D80
Power Management SupportedNo
Double Click ThresholdNot Available
HandednessNot Available
IRQ ChannelIRQ 12
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\i8042prt.sys (6.1.7600.16385, 
103.00 KB (105,472 bytes), 14/07/2009


---

I've googled for 3 weeks with no working results.

Even the touchpad-indicator applet installs but doesnt work.

Re sound output - headphones work with Fuduntu 14-10-RC2-64 but at 
same time as laptop spkrs - no option to turn either off.



Re: [SLUG] imac

2011-06-02 Thread James Gray
On 02/06/2011, at 2:48 PM, Troy Rollo wrote:

 
 On Thursday, June 02, 2011 10:00:02 AM slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 
 Every new Mac comes with a fully licensed copy of OSX.  If you can get it
 to boot on a Commodore 64, you're still complying with the license :)
 
 Very unlikely. You would need to look at the licence terms to see what it 
 allows - you cannot just do whatever you like with software just because you 
 got a licenced copy. Even copying bits of the operating system onto the 5.25 
 floppy or the audio cassette, so you could load it onto the C64, would very 
 likely be outside the licence.


Meh - IANAL, but I also don't run OSX on non-Apple kit so never had the need to 
trawl through the EULA, I use it, I pay for my software/music/movies, don't 
think there's much there I need to be concerned about...glad to have been 
enlightened.  I stand by the rest of my post though ;)

Cheers,

James

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[SLUG] May 2011 SLUG Meeting

2011-06-02 Thread committee

== May 2011 SLUG Meeting ==

Summary

 * Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 6 p.m.
 * Start: Arrive at 6pm for a 6:30pm start
 * Format: Lightning Talks
 * RSVP: http://signup.slug.org.au/event/8001
 * Suggest or sign up for a talk by emailing activit...@slug.org.au!

 Details 

--Lightning talks --

* Tim's  Tidits.
* Patrick Picks
* Sridhar D - OLPC update
* James Explains
* Marghanita de Cruz - follow up on Mitchell Mash-up.
* Roger Barnes - An app using basic python/django/pinax app via apache on  
ubuntu on EC2

* John August - Open Source and Ethics: continued.
* Tentative: Robert Smit. IPV6 and the home user.
* Narelle Clark (VP Internet Society of Australia) - World IPv6 Day June 8
* Mark Willis - Emacs: There IS a keystoke for that

-- Main talk --

 * TBA. If you'd like to volunteer, email activit...@slug.org.au!

Location

  Google Sydney
  Level 5, Workplace 6
  48 Pirrama Road
  Pyrmont, NSW

 Map: http://signup.slug.org.au/map

-- Getting there --

The Google office is the big black building marked Accenture opposite
Star City Pirrama Road facade.

If using the trains, you can go either get off at;

 * Town Hall station, head towards Darling Harbour, walk across the Pyrmont
   footbridge and then follow Pirrama Road towards Star city.
 * Central station, then follow the light rail instructions.

If using the buses, the route 443 stops right out front of the building.

If using the light rail, get off at Star City station and walk across the
street.

If you drive, then you can look for parking on the suburban streets around
the office (or pay for parking at the Casino), and then walk from there.

=== Afterwards ===

We'll be aiming to finish by 8pm and will be heading to the Pyrmont Bridge
Hotel (PBH) afterwards to socalise and eat dinner. The PBH is marked on the
map.

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[SLUG] SyPy June 2nd: What do you mean it must be Java based! How Jython saved the day - Mark Rees

2011-06-02 Thread Dylan Jay

SyPy: Sydney Python Users group meetup

For many companies, enterprise software means it must run in a Java
environment, and if you offering is Python based, how do you get past
this impediment? This talk will showcase Jython (http://jython.org/)
as a way to get your Python app running under the Java VM.  The talk
will cover Jython setup  use, a comparison to CPython, and leveraging
Java libraries when necessary. The steps to get your SQLAlchemy,
Django and Pyramid based applications running under Jython will be
part of this talk.
The talk is based on the experiences of our company deploying both our
existing CPython applications and Java specific scripts under Jython.

About the speaker(s):
Mark Rees is CTO at Century Software

6:15: Arrive
6:30: Lightning talks (email me, or just bring a 5min talk along)
6:45: What do you mean it must be Java based! How Jython saved the  
day - Mark Rees

7:40 Social networking and beers and dinner at the Pyrmont Bridge Hotel.


*RSVP: Please RSVP so we have an idea of numbers*

http://sypy2011jun.eventbrite.com/

Getting There: See the event page above for details
Free free to join us at the pub after/instead.
If have any problems call Dylan Jay on 0421477460

---
Dylan Jay
Technical Solutions Manager
PretaWeb: reducing duplication in the government web.
P: +612 80819071 | M: +61421477460 | twitter.com/djay75 | linkedin.com/ 
in/djay75


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[SLUG] PyCon Australia 2011: Early Bird Closing Soon

2011-06-02 Thread Ryan Kelly

Hi Everyone,


A reminder that Early Bird Registrations for PyCon Australia 2011 will
be closing soon.  There are only a few days left to get your tickets at
the discounted rate.

PyCon Australia is Australia's only conference dedicated exclusively to
the Python programming language, and will be held at the Sydney Masonic
Center over the weekend of August 20 and 21. See below for more
information and updates on:
 
 1. Early-Bird Registration Closing Soon
 2. Presentations Selected
 3. More Sponsors Announced
 
Please pass this message on to those you feel may be interested.

 

Early-Bird Registration Closing Soon


Early-bird registration closes at the end of May, so you've only got
a few days left to get your tickets at the special discounted rate.

We offer three levels of registration for PyCon Australia 2011.
Registration provides access to two full days of technical content
presented by Python enthusiasts from around the country, as well as the
new classroom track and a seat at the conference dinner.
  
  Full (Early Bird) - $165
This is the registration rate for regular attendees. We are offering
a limited Early Bird rate for the first 50 registrations until the
end of May.

Once the early-bird period ends, Full Registration will be $198.

  Corporate - $440
If your company is paying for you to attend PyCon, please register
at the corporate rate. You'll be helping to keep the conference
affordable for all.

  Student - $44
For students able to present a valid student card we're offering
this reduced rate, which does not include the conference dinner.

All prices include GST.  For more information or to register, please
visit the conference website.

Register here: http://pycon-au.org/reg



Presentations Selected
==

We have had a fantastic response to our Call For Proposals this year.
While the detailed talk schedule is still being finalised, we are
pleased to announce that the following presentations have been selected
for the conference:

  Standard Talks:

A Python on the Couch  (Mark Rees)
Behaviour Driven Development  (Malcolm Tredinnick)
Benchmarking stuff made ridiculously easy  (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Bytecode: What, Why, and How to Hack it  (Ryan Kelly)
Developing Scientific Software in Python  (Duncan Gray)
Fun with App Engine 1.5.0  (Greg Darke)
Hosting Python Web Applications  (Graham Dumpleton)
How Python Evolves (and How You Can Help Make It Happen)  (Nick Coghlan)
Infinite 8-bit Platformer  (Chris McCormick)
Networking Libraries in Python.  (Senthil Kumaran)
Pants - Network Programming Made Easy  (Evan Davis)
Say What You Mean: Meta-Programming a Declarative API  (Ryan Kelly)
State of CPython and Python Ecosystem  (Senthil Kumaran)
Sysadmins vs Developers, a take from the other side of the fence  (Benjamin 
Smith)
Teaching Python to the young and impressionable  (Katie Bell)
The NCSS Challenge: teaching programming via automated testing  (Tim 
Dawborn)
Weather field warping using Python.  (Nathan Faggian)
Zookeepr: Home-grown conference management software  (Brianna Laugher)

  In-Depth Talks:

Ah! I see you have the machine that goes BING!  (Graeme Cross)
Easy site migration using Diazo and Funnelweb  (Adam Terrey)
How to maintain big app stacks without losing your mind  (Dylan Jay)
Introduction to the Geospatial Web with GeoDjango  (Javier Candeira)
Panel: Python 3  (Richard Jones)
Panel: Python in the webs  (Richard Jones)
Pyramid: Lighter, faster, better web apps  (Dylan Jay)
Web micro-framework battle  (Richard Jones)

  Classroom Track:

Meta-matters: using decorators for better Python programming  (Graeme Cross)
Python 101+  (Peter Lovett)
Python's dark corners - the bad bits in Python and how to avoid them  
(Peter Lovett)
Python for Science and Engineering, Part 1  (Edward Schofield)
Python for Science and Engineering, Part 2  (Edward Schofield)
The Zen of Python  (Richard Jones)


Thanks again to everyone who submitted a proposal.


 
More Sponsors Announced
===

We are delighted to announce that WingWare and Superior Recruitment have
joined as Silver Sponsors.  Thank you to the following companies for
their continuing support of Python and for helping to make PyCon
Australia 2011 a reality:

Gold:  Google  http://www.google.com.au/
Gold:  ComOps  http://www.comops.com.au/
 
Silver:  Anchorhttp://anchor.com.au/
Silver:  Enthought http://www.enthought.com/
Silver:  Python Software Foundationhttp://www.python.org/psf/
Silver:  WingWare  http://www.wingware.com/
Silver:  Superior Recruitment  http://superiorrecruitment.com.au/
 

Thanks also to Linux Australia, who provide 

Re: [SLUG] New Laptop Problems

2011-06-02 Thread Grant Street
Another obvious thing is to ensure you are using the correct audio 
device/output source. I have fallen fowl of booting with a USB webcam 
and it using the usb sound device by default and I had to change it. 
Also the volume in the mixer is is not set high enough or enabled for 
headphones.


I know this is pretty obvious, but sometimes the default behaviour is 
not intuitive and has caught me out :-)


Grant


On 02/06/11 18:04, Ben Donohue wrote:

Hi Bill,

have you tried booting with knoppix live cd?
(yes I know you've tried others)
Also there are winders live cd's like hirens that may boot and help
diagnostics.

On the touchpad, sometimes there is a small button next to the touchpad
that turns it off and on. I know... pretty obvious... but it happened to
me once. I just wasnt' expecting a button there.
Also is there a volume wheel near the audio... yeah I know pretty
obvious too but sometimes you see it. Also touch sensitive buttons above
the keyboard are sometimes used to turn hardware off and on.
When the hardware is off they are sometimes not lit up. You have to know
they are there.

Thanks,
Ben Donohue


On 2/06/2011 11:59 AM, gonzo01 wrote:

3 weeks ago I bought an MSI Cx640 laptop - 2nd Gen Sandy Bridge cpu,
USB 3 etc.

I'm running LinuxMint 11 (latest)

Problems:-

1) cant turn off touchpad - when using mouse, pointer/entered text
jumps all over the screen.

2) no audio from headphone/audio out port.

Excuse the long post, but here is info re system from both Mint and
Windows 7-


MSIlaptop

$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor
Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor
Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation
Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset
Family MEI Controller #1 (rev 04)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family USB
Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 05)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 05)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI
Express Root Port 1 (rev b5)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI
Express Root Port 2 (rev b5)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI
Express Root Port 4 (rev b5)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family PCI
Express Root Port 6 (rev b5)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family USB
Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 05)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation HM65 Express Chipset Family LPC
Controller (rev 05)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family 6
port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 05)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family SMBus
Controller (rev 05)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0ded
(rev a1)
03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285
Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
04:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host
Controller (rev 04)
05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Device 1083 (rev c0)


-

Mint touchpad info


linux mint 11 (HardInfo)

FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensngPad

bus0x11
vendor2
product0xf
version0x0
connected toisa0060/serio2/input0


--

System Info Win7

NameConexant SmartAudio HD
ManufacturerConexant
StatusOK
PNP Device ID
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01VEN_14F1DEV_5069SUBSYS_1462109CREV_1003\42B51D37D1
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\chdrt64.sys (8.54.0.0, 1.51 MB
(1,581,184 bytes), 12/02/2011 12:23 AM)

NameBluetooth Audio Device
ManufacturerAtheros Communications
StatusOK
PNP Device ID
BTHENUM\{61118058-486C-4BB0-B4B8-ACE4DCADEC44}_LOCALMFG\8232D02A90_
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\btath_a2dp.sys (1.0.0.0, 294.61
KB (301,680 bytes), 28/09/2010 5:13 AM)

NameIntel(R) Display Audio
ManufacturerIntel(R) Corporation
StatusOK
PNP Device ID
HDAUDIO\FUNC_01VEN_8086DEV_2805SUBSYS_1462109CREV_1000\42B51D37D00301
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\intcdaud.sys (6.14.0.3074,
310.00 KB (317,440 bytes), 11/02/2011 4:11 PM)


---

Win7-Ss Info

mouse/touchpad

Hardware TypeUSB Input Device
Number of Buttons0
StatusOK
PNP Device IDUSB\VID_046DPID_C05A\617E3CC5501
Power Management SupportedNo
Double Click ThresholdNot Available
HandednessNot Available
Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\hidusb.sys (6.1.7600.16385,
29.50 KB (30,208 bytes), 14/07/2009 10:06 AM)

Hardware TypeFinger Sensing Pad
Number of Buttons0
StatusOK
PNP Device IDACPI\STLC060\41A1D06D80
Power Management SupportedNo
Double Click ThresholdNot Available
HandednessNot Available
IRQ Channel

[SLUG] Re: New Lsptop Problem - partly fixed

2011-06-02 Thread gonzo01

Thanks to Miloska, Ben and Grant for replies.

Sound problem has solved itself after yesterday AM installation of 
latest updates.


Problem with Touchpad:-

First I edited  /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf and 
/10-evdev.conf


removing all refs to touchpad. Made no difference.

Further Googling provided info that MSI uses touchpad that is not 
compatible with Synaptic.


MSI touchpad is a Sentelic touchpad, and apparently although driver is 
in kernel since Ubuntu 10.4 ( I think)


 problem is that system sees it as USB device.
---

 from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1502560

[quote] these Sentelic touchpads are wrongly recognized as a PS/2 
Mouse. (See eg the FSPPS/2 Sentelic


FingerSensingPad listing in gconf-editor, or use the GPointing mouse and 
touchpad configuration application).


These Sentelic touchpads are also not listed as a tab in System  
Preferences  Mouse.


As a consequence, these Sentelic touchpads cannot be configured. This 
includes, for example,


the absense of elementary options regarding touchpad sensitivity 
(Sentelic touchpads are by


default hyper-sensitive, leading to many input errors), tap-to-click, 
de-activate while typing,


horizontal and vertical scroll, etc.

[/quote]

enabling/disabling touchpad by commands such as:-


gconftool-2 --set --type boolean 
/desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true

changed to false - rebooted - still work



doesnt work as its not seen as a touchpad but as a mouse.

As I want to permanently disable the touchpad, it would appear that I 
need to run a script of some sort on boot to have the system ignore 
the USB mouse - but not the real mouse.


There are many scripts on the various forums, but they are all specific, 
ie turn off touchpad when start typing etc.



Will keep trying.

PS. My laptop, being a new fast Boot has practically Nil options in 
the BIOS - doesnt even have option to boot from USB


Bill




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