Re: [SLUG] Laptops and Linux
I'm having loads of troubles with my ibook g4 (can't even get drivers for the internal Airport Ext. card)... the only distro that really worked is gentoo - there is not too much of a choice on the ppc. The upside to the ibook is that i can get 5 1/2 hours of battery life and cost me under $2000. Also there is an article that talks about putting fedora on an ibook g4: http://www.bytebot.net/geekdocs/ibook/fedorappc.html Cheers, Jasper Begin forwarded message: I've heard/seen lots of great things about Apple iBooks and Powerbooks as well. If you don't have any legacy apps from windows days, these are probably my next favourite. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] hp pda question
I know this is a really silly question, though i've been offered one of those HP pocket pcs for really cheap, the only problem being that it's running windoze 2003 mobile- and i've run a M$ free household for the past 6 months and don't intend to change that. (see http://h50025.www5.hp.com/hpcom/au_en/11_26_60_2343_FA174A.html) So here's the question- how easy is it to get Linux running on one of these babies? Has anybody had any success in doing so? I found a project called handhelds http://handhelds.org/ which looks promising but i'm just interested to hear of success or horror stories. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 13, Issue 15
The irony is that i wasn't even intending to run it on an Xbox (not that i even own one)... Also sorry for the double posting before... stupid proxies made me do it (they are satanic i swear) On 06/04/2004, at 7:21 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bunch of something else starting with 'F', if you ask me. If you think that's bad though, wait until the free trade agreement goes through and it's actually illegal to use your own hardware 'for anything other than its intended purpose'. Felix -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Re: slug Digest, Vol 13, Issue 15
I've just gone and downloaded it myself- if anybody needs a copy, its on my lappie. On 06/04/2004, at 9:18 PM, Michael Fox wrote: I reckon the people who decide if they mirror stuff saw the xbox type logo on the website for the distro and thought no we are not going to mirror it. I've just submitted a request for mirror.nsw.3fl.net which is free to adsl customers who use an nsw adsl isp that has pipe peering, to mirror it if possible. I bookmarked the website sometime ago but never got around to downloading it, so I figure if they mirror it then I can download the iso for free, rather then use my paid data. Soon see what happens :) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bigpond and M$
I tried to get Bigpond to mirror Dynebolic (live mulitmedia distro) on their server (so it don't clock up the megs on cable) and was astonished to have it rejected- moreso was utterly bewildered for their response: (and this is a direct quote) - Out of respect for Microsoft's wishes, we are not making available any software that promotes or allows the modification or alteration of their Xbox console system for anything other than its intended purpose. - I wasn't even considering using this live distro on an Xbox- but am sure as hell feeling spiteful enough to try now. What a bunch of fools. Jasper -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Bigpond and M$
I tried to get Bigpond to mirror Dynebolic (live mulitmedia distro) on their server (so it don't clock up the megs on cable) and was astonished to have it rejected- moreso was utterly bewildered for their response: (and this is a direct quote) - Out of respect for Microsoft's wishes, we are not making available any software that promotes or allows the modification or alteration of their Xbox console system for anything other than its intended purpose. - I wasn't even considering using this live distro on an Xbox- but am sure as hell feeling spiteful enough to try now. What a bunch of fools. Jasper -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] New Membership Benefit
Is this for real??? I'm thinking that it's too close to april fools day to take such absurd statements seriously. If not then i'll second Mary's motion. On 01/04/2004, at 10:52 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a former committee member, I'd like to distance myself from this sell-out. I attended the first hour of the last committee meeting and would like to emphasise that we discussed only things like putting speaker slides on the website, and the format of the minutes. I move that an SGM be held to vote on the following motion: That the SLUG committee can go to hell. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] PPC live distros 4 ibookG4
Hi all, I recently picked up one of the new g4 ibooks and am in a bit of a bind. I can't get rid of Mac Os (for reasons beyond my control-- work) though i'm going stir crazy about not having a linux machine at the moment. I was hoping that there was a live distro that worked with the raedeon 9200 card in the new ibooks. I'd only be really using it for open office and other basic essentials. Any ideas?? Thanks, Jasper -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] PPC live distros 4 ibookG4
Yeah, i'm not actually allowed to repartition the internal hard disk, but i do have a firewire hard disk which i might be able to use linux boot. Incidentally, speaking of ppc distros... some people have ported linux to the game cube: http://www.gc-linux.org/ On 12/02/2004, at 4:04 PM, Jeff Waugh wrote: There was a PPC version of Morphix going around. How about dual booting? I do that on my iBook, works a treat (not that I really use Mac OS X much). - Jeff -- GVADEC 2004: Kristiansand, Norway http://2004.guadec.org/ On Tuesday I saw Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon with Zack and two ladies whom I presume are gracious. - Seth Schoen -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] Linux.org llisting
Hi All, I've noticed that slug isn't listed as an australian LUG on linux.org: http://www.linux.org/groups/australia.html I'm not sure what the protocol is here, but i think it might be a good idea to get us put on that page. Just a thought. Jasper -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] Mac + Win Sharing via Linux
H, I must say that i didn't have any troubles getting XP to see my samba share points. Though i must say that on my network i don't have any authentication- i.e anybody can read/write to the samba share point. I'm on my laptop at the moment so i can't tell you what the version of samba it is (2.??) or send you my .conf file- though i setup most of it using webmin and then later used joe to modify some of the fields that webmin wouldn't let me do what i wanted. Stupid question, though i have noticed that winXP sometimes takes a while to display what's available... i've noticed this even when networking two xp machines together. Cheers, Jasper On 14/12/2003, at 11:17 PM, Tom Massey wrote: Hi again, Thanks for the suggestions. I spent today working on it. Internet sharing was easy, basic iptables setup. I may get squid involved later. The Mac/Netatalk side of things was a snap, took 10 minutes to setup a directory on the Linux machine that was shared to the Macs via Netatalk, showed up nicely in the chooser. Then I spent several hours trying to get WinXP Pro to see Samba shares. WinXP now has the distinction of being the only OS that has ever caused me to seriously consider physical violence towards a computer. I tried everything Google pointed me at, a variety of smb.conf files down to the most basic three lines in a [Global] section, played with the WinXP registry, disabled the builtin firewall stuff, sacrificed a goat. Nothing I did seemed to help. WinXP couldn't see the Samba share. Google told me that WinXP was not known for it's ability to talk to Samba, but it did seem at least possible. Does anybody know of some decent docs that show how to connect WinXP to a Samba server? Nothing I could find on Google worked. All I need is to have two directories visible to WinXP - one of these also shared to the Macs via Netatalk. My understanding is that this can be done by putting them in the same workgroup, without the need to use domains, set up a PDC. I'd prefer to do it with Samba rather than a web based solution such as phpgroupware. Just seems neater - there's a lot of stuff in phpgroupware that isn't needed here. I've got a Win98 CD somewhere around, I might get rid of XP. I seem to remember that 98 was quite easy to setup with Samba. Haven't really looked at printing yet. At the moment the printer is happy to talk to the Macs via ethernet, and the WinXP machine via a parallel connection. Not ideal, but it'll do for now while I try and get the file sharing working. Tom -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] SGI Octane- Linux?
I was wasting time on ebay today (as you do) and stumbled across this australian crowd selling some nice SGI octane boxes at around AU$2000(for the 400Mhz) and felt the urge to spend. I'm curious to see just how effective these enormously expensive beasts are- after all, the one i am looking at in particular comes with a really nice sound setup. A little google research on linux running on the octanes, there was a lot of mixed reports of the success or impossibility of running such a machine. very confusing. Basically i was just wondering if anybody on this list runs a MIPS box with any success? Am i simply mad or is there a world of computing possibility out there??? Cheers, Jasper -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] cable and optusnet
Hi John, Welcome to the wonderful world of linux. I use mandrake but don't use optus cable- so i can't tell you exactly what to put in there. Mandrake 9.1 has a 'Control Centre' which by default can be found in the 'start' menu of KDE or Gnome or by typing 'DrakConf' in a terminal. Once launched, there is a 'Network Internet' tab on the left hand side of the control surface window- once clicked this reveals the 'DrakConnect' application/utility- this is where you setup your internet, there is a wizard which can guide you through the process of setting up the net. You might have to choose 'expert mode' if the auto detect doesn't work. Sorry for only taking you halfway there- but i really don't know what to put in for optus. Cheers, Jasper On 08/12/2003, at 8:48 AM, Grant Parnell wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, John Gibbons wrote: Greetings, I am a newcomer to Linux and cannot speak the technical language at all. After somehow successfully installing Mandrake 9.1 alongside XP I am at a loss to connect to optusnet via the cable modem that works OK with XP. Have read a couple of howtos in books for beginners written by well meaning but communication challenged experts and have read some advice on the internet but cannot understand it either. They may as well be written in Esperanto or Swahili as far as a complete beginner is concerned. Would some kind Linux Wizard who still remembers basic English please come to my rescue? Well I could probably help if I used Mandrake. From what I know of optus cable there's almost no setup involved. All you need to do is find the network setup tool for Mandrake (Drakconf?) and setup an 'ethernet' interface and have it automatically setup using something called DHCP and activating it, that's it! My problem is giving you the specific terms used and things to click on in the Mandrake config tool. If you're physically using a different computer, turn the cable modem off first because it locks onto the particular network card. -- ---GRiP--- Electronic Hobbyist, Former Arcadia BBS nut, Occasional nudist, Linux Guru, SLUG/AUUG/Linux Australia member, Sydney Flashmobber, BMX rider, Walker, Raver rave music lover, Big kid that refuses to grow up. I'd make a good family pet, take me home today! Do people actually read these things? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] good cd burning software?
hi all any recommendations on a good piece of cd burning software, i'm using k3b and not liking it very much :( any suggestions appreciated cheers Jasper -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] good cd burning software?
Thanks all for the responses, I was using it to burn some iso images- had a couple of crashes. Basically i am slowly migrating everyone in my vicinity to linux machines and want to be able to have idiots operate the cd burning. I.e. when someone says 'burn' and there isn't a blank cd in there- i'd like the software to eject the CDR tray and say put in a blank CD- o wise one you know, that general kind of ludite proof stuff. So in brief- command line burners are definitely not an option. As for the version of k3b, i'm running 0.9. i'll go and check for an update soon and also I'll give Nautilus a go in a minute. Cheers, Jasper On 03/12/2003, at 11:44 AM, Mike MacCana wrote: any recommendations on a good piece of cd burning software, i'm using k3b and not liking it very much :( What specifically aren't you liking? Development is pretty rapid, so make sure you've got the latest version. AFAIK, and I've investigated this pretty well, all other graphical CD recording apps on Linux are, well, shit. My opinion anyway, but I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me. XCDRoast is one of the few apps that makes GUI buring more difficult than just running the command line tool. Mike -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Re:more smoothwall questions.
Hi Shaun, If you get Optus broadband, its very easy to setup a router machine with two network cards (if you have an ethernet modem) or if you have a usb modem- skip the second network card. for verification you simply need to name your router as your Optus account name- i believe that they use your modems serial as the other part of the verification (i could be wrong on this). If you make the fateful mistake (like i did) of choosing Telstra, then the verification process becomes more complex. Anyway, the setup i have is a dedicated old machine (for smoothwall a 500Mb HD is more than enough, i run a 200Mhz cpu) which sits between the modem and the switch with DHCP enabled- it has worked for me for quite some time. and apart from having to restart the smoothwall box every 3-4 months, id say its fairly solid. (mind you, i intend to try out IpCop soon enough) As for the linespeed question.. i really don't know the answer, maybe ping??? cheers, Jasper On 29/11/2003, at 10:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 29 November 2003 9:02:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] more smoothwall questions. ok my reason for this post is 2 fold. 1. first and foremost can one get an indication of one's linespeed with smoothwall if so how or where, 2. I'm seriously considering optus cable within the next few months. how can I set it up to be accessable by all the computers on my network? or, can I just connect it to the uplink on my hub I have here and designate 1 machine as the router? thanks in advance for any and all answers. -- Shaun Oliver I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB: http://www.minifang.com/~blindman/ IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Vietnam embracing open-source products
And yet another affirmation of OSS victories: Vietnam is under pressure to reduce software piracy, and their response is to eliminate Microsoft. Logically, this will actually reduce the piracy levels! I wonder how that will affect U.S. and Microsoft ambitions to crack down on pirated software? http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/business/columnists/gmsv/7139304.htm Cheers, Jasper -J.L.E Streit- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Mandrake 9.2
Hi all, Im just wondering if anyone has had a chance to look at madrake 9.2, just looking for feedback really. Im on 9.1 and am wondering if I could really be bothered to upgrade as everything seems to be working peachy. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Mandrake 9.2
Hmmm, chances would have it- I do have an LG cdrom. Oh well :( -J.L.E Streit- Just make sure you don't have a LG cdrom drive. on the errata page of Mandrake they are having issues with LG cdrom drives being killed. I have been playing with the Cooker 9.2 it doesn't seem that bad you have gnome2.4 and openoffice 1.1 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ot: Mac OSX and virii in the open
I would take this article with a really BIG grain of salt, considering the fact that it is written by an apple employee. Talk about biased journalism! I see no reason why the os wouldn't be subject to a unix type virus. -J.L.E Streit- The Australian yesterday had a column from David Frith on just this subject http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,7457276%5E15423%5E%5Enb v %5E15309,00.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] ot: Mac OSX and virii in the open
As far as crashing goes, well OS X has been **fairly stable, though not bullet proof. OS 9 on the other hand was a joke in terms of stability... Trying to interface to MS windows networks from OS X does sometimes hang the system (maybe just aqua, but there doesn't seem to be alt+F6 type of runlevel switching that I love about my linux box, so sometimes only a reboot seems to help) I have a Linux firewall with an assortment of computers accessing the internet through it, which includes one Mac with OSX loaded. So far it's held off any intrusions, though I haven't had the wonderful luck of receiving a mac virus, yet! Maybe you should also discourage your users from using peer to peer systems cause of their reputation for undermining security... Oh yeah, my two cents on OSX is that it wastes too much resources being pretty. I like lean mean computing machines (yeah blackbox!). Stupid fashionable GUIs! mutter mutter... Cheers, Jasper -J.L.E Streit- -Original Message- From: Voytek Eymont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 7 October 2003 12:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] ot: Mac OSX and virii in the open Every so often, I have seen a number of Q here regarding Apple Mac hardware, hence, I'm assuming there are some Mac hardware users here, are there any Mac OS users though ? Reading through a Mac book I picked up today (of all places, at everythinglinux) I now know that Mac OS is *nix based. But, all in all, I know rather little about Macs what is the situation with Macs and so-called virii and worms, does anyone has real-life experience that can point me in the right direction ? I'll need to look after some Macs that will be ADSL connected to Internet soon, and, need to research it somewhat, so, I do not appear a total dummy (partial dummy is OK) I have a Mac user (unrelated to above scenario) who told me: Mac are wonderfull, I don't need any anti virus, I don't have crashes, we are so blissed we run only Macs I suspect the above-mentioned Mac user may well have a competent person looking after her Macs, hence, her bliss(full ignorance) Symantec are happy to sell me Mac anti virus, but, they are equally happy to sell me OS/2 anti virus. any good Mac mail lists or sigs anyone knows ? I'm guessing Mac with MS stuff like Office and especially Outbreak would be prone to some of the MS malware there is ? anyhow, any advice appreciated, apologise for this far off topic, perhaps replies might be directed directly to me if that is too far off here Voytek Eymont Checked for Virus's by Asoft Email Scan -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] running unstable/testing
I haven't used apt-get for some time now but off the top of my head you simply run it from a terminal with the file name as an additional argument. Try: # apt-get install ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/pool/main/m/mozilla/mozilla-browser_1. 4-1_i386.deb -J.L.E Streit- -Original Message- From: Simon Males [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 13 July 2003 10:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] running unstable/testing Debian newbie here. I am a mozilla nut. Im running woody3.0r1, i did a base install from the APC cd. Now i need (or i cant breath) the latest mozilla, basically, i want to be able to apt: ftp://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian/pool/main/m/mozilla/mozilla-browser_1. 4-1_i386.deb I am aware to do so would be running unstable stuff, so be it... but how do i do it :) -- Simon Males ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Let them hate, so long as they fear -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] linux gateway
Hi Shaun, If you can spare an old computer with an ethernet card (or two).. I recommend using smoothwall, ( http://www.smoothwall.org/ ) which is a free linux based firewall that has the option of being a DHCP server (makes it real easy to get the other computers on the net). Although I use this box for Cable internet- I have noticed that there is dial-up support as well. The wonderful thing about smoothwall is that your partner can get it to dial up to the internet through her browser or have it set to dial on demand.. You can access the smoothwall on port 81 at it's IP through any webbrowser on the local network which provides both a GUI and a shell, and it also has ssh if you want to just use the terminal. therefore saving on the need for even having a monitor or keyboard on the firewall box. Anyway, check it out, Cheers, Jasper -J.L.E Streit- -- Shaun Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/07/2003 02:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[SLUG] linux gateway hi, I want to run linux as a gateway computer between my lan and the internet. I am well aware of the tools needed to acomplish this task as I have been using linux for the last 2 years or so. my dilemmer is this. I am the only one who knows and understands linux in my household, and my partner prefers to use windows. I am searching for a way to enable her to be able to point and click and start or stop pppd and get the usual connection statistics she has become acustom to. currently, I run debian3.0 kernel 2.4.20 and speakup-1.5. I must point out at this point in time that I am a blind user of GNU/Linux and prefer to use it as my os of choice due to the nature of the free software movement. any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. thanks in advance. -- Shaun Oliver Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow! EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/attachments/20030704/acfef6f8/att achment.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
RE: [SLUG] Problem
It sounds like a power issue to me. I have a couple of firewire cases, one of which is a Seagate 80gig 7200rpm inside of an icecube firewire enclosure- which refuses to work from the power on the firewire port, and thus means that I have to cart a power supply around with me when I use this drive. My other firewire drive is one of the early 20 gig firewire enclosures (can't remember the brand)... though this one is more than happy to run from the power supplied by the firewire port... unless it's plugged into a laptop. Hope that helps, Jasper -J.L.E Streit- -Original Message- From: Robert Tillsley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 June 2003 5:57 PM To: 'Lyle Chapman'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SLUG] Problem What brand and model is the case? Regards Rob T -Original Message- From: Lyle Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 13 June 2003 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] Problem Sorry this is off topic but I thought someone may be able to help. I have an external firewire case with an 80gb 7200rpm drive - my prob is I can run 20, 40 and 60gig 5400rpm drives no problem, but when I stick a 40, 60 or 80gb 7200rpm drive in the damn thing works sometimes if at all, I have tried numerous cables, other drives, operating systems, platforms etc but I still get the same problem. There is nothing wrong with the physical drives as they are all brand new Seagates. I have tried contacting the boofheads who supplied me the case and the manufacturer but there not much help and they give me the runaround. I thought someone on the list might have an idea. THANKS TO ANYONE WHO CAN HELP. Lyle Chapman Pre-Press Supervisor Torch Publishing Co. 47 Allingham Street, Condell Park 2200, NSW, Australia (02) 9795 (02) 9795 0096 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug * This mail, including any attached files may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended receipient (or authorised to receive information for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. * -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug