[SLUG] Thanks

2003-02-14 Thread evilbunny
Hello slug,

  thanks for all those that replied, much appreciated...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Everything hurts ... and what doesn't don't work.

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



[SLUG] In need of servers

2003-02-13 Thread evilbunny
Hello slug,

  Slightly not about linux, but I'm currently trying to source
  reasonably priced 1RU servers in Sydney (which will run debian)
  however I don't seem to be able to get any anymore for less then
  about $2.5k to $3k...

  They will be primarily used for web and email serving, and only
  needs to be a bare minimum P3 or equiv, in a 1 RU case with 1/2 gig
  of ram and 2 x 20+ IDE drives... looking to pay about ~$2k...

  If anyone knows of any can you please let me know, this isn't a 1
  off and we will be looking to purchase at least 1 every 1 to 2
  months... Initially looking to purchase 2, most likely 3 of them...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Has anyone seen the aardvark lately.

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[2]: [SLUG] Hard Drives

2003-02-13 Thread evilbunny
Hello Graeme,

 The moral of this story is: backup with RAID is better than RAID without
 backup..

GR RAID is not backup. RAID adds disk redundancy, no more.

Raid can also do mirroring... or any combination of a lot of things,
depending on the number of disks, the way you partition etc...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Lord Stanley's address correction: Broad  Pattison

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] dynamic dns

2002-12-27 Thread evilbunny
Hello stephen,

I use www.dyndns.org and it works great... nice little client in deb
packaging :)

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Its not for everyone, so what are you doing here

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Friday, December 27, 2002, 1:42:35 PM, you wrote:



sp Kevin Waterson wrote:

I wish to set up some dynamic dns.
Could some kind soul please point me to a How-To.
Google has failed me yet again.

Kind regards
Kevin

  

sp I have setup a inexpensive web presence using Deerfield.com
sp they allow dynamic from your desktop machine or from a website of your 
sp choosing when you are not online look at my site for an example 
sp http://www.noviolence.info



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re: [SLUG] prism2.5 pci wireless

2002-12-16 Thread evilbunny
Hello Adam,

Depending what you wish to do, you could always use the hostap drivers
and put the card into AP mode... iirc the wlan-ng drivers use a set of
non-standard API's and HostAP drivers can put prism2/2.5/3 devices
into client and ad hoc modes as well as AP mode...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey... it's me.

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Monday, December 16, 2002, 8:43:42 PM, you wrote:

AH Hi All,

AH I have installed wireless cards in two of my servers and have them working 
AH with the orinoco_pci drivers with the 2.4.19 kernel. The problem is that I 
AH am getting the Error -110 writing Tx descriptor to BAP error, which from 
AH what I have read is caused by the orinoco drivers not working properly.

AH This is ok, and I have read that the linux-wlan-ng drivers are better 
AH anyways, so I am attempting to get these working. I have installed the 
AH debian package, however from what I can see I still need to download the 
AH kernel source and compile the drivers with the linux-wlan-ng source?? Am I 
AH missing something?? I don't understand the point of the debian package if 
AH have to compile from source anyways?

AH Any hints or directions would be greatly appreciated.

AH Adam.



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] prism2.5 pci wireless

2002-12-16 Thread evilbunny
Hello Karl,

prism2/2.5/3 devices
KB Does this include the dlink 22mbps gear?

No, the 22mbps or 11b+ gear is based on the TI ACX100 chipset... as
such no currently known working drivers for anything but windows...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

ABORT,RETRY, GET THE SHOTGUN AND SHOOT THE DAMNED THING

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re: [SLUG] SMS

2002-12-16 Thread evilbunny
Hello Richard,

There is a telstra number you can dial, and a vodaphone one, i think
the telstra number will deliver to all numbers...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sir,with the utmost respect,that is complete and utter shash. --Kryten

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Tuesday, December 17, 2002, 12:36:12 PM, you wrote:

hi is it possible to send sms messages to a phone off my home pc without
having to connect to the internet? I have an internal modem but no phone
line

pls reply because ive heard it is possible but i dont know how/where to
get it from cheers






RR _
RR STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* 
RR http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] Setting Up a Website

2002-12-11 Thread evilbunny
Hello Michael,

 PS. forget the .au domain names, they're a rip off.
 I used to be keen on them but not when a .com is AU$30
 per year and you have a choice of hundreds of registrars.

www.gkg.net = $9.99US/yr

MF I've seen .com.au's for $77 for 2 years. I believe..

www.namescout.com.au = $59/2yrs

Still need at the minimum need an ABN thou... not exactly the hardest
thing to get however...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] usb mouse more responsive kernel 2.4.20

2002-12-08 Thread evilbunny
Hello David,

I knew there was a good reason to stick with reiserfs :)

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Monday, December 9, 2002, 10:05:13 AM, you wrote:


DF But be careful with 2.4.20 with ext3, apparently there are problems with
DF data=journal mode.  I believe that Stephen Tweedie is recommending people
DF not use data=journal with 2.4.20 until the problems are resolved.
DF Apparently data can be lost after umounts.

DF I read it on the ext3fs mail list last week, don't have a reference with me
DF at work.  Any one else know more about this?

DF David x2707
DF mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DF Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum sonatur.



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] What ftpd - oh the choices ?

2002-12-04 Thread evilbunny
Hello Jeff,

scp? mind you I run proftpd for the poor ppl without good set of
security tools and don't have virtuals... it locks things down
tight...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Thursday, December 5, 2002, 12:53:21 AM, you wrote:

JW quote who=Michael Lake

 Use is mainly for home machine--machine but will be using at at uni
 where it will be effectively directly connected so security is a concern.
 (my IRIX box here shows several attemps / week) But also I wont be using
 virtual hosts or anything fancy (hence dont need proftp). So simpliclity
 is a plus.
 Users will be mainly me at uni.
 Anyone used oftpd, vsftpd or twoftpd.

JW I'd recommend vsftpd, it's very secure and fast on Linux. Great stuff.

JW - Jeff

JW -- 
JW2.4.1ac17 is full of innovations and should be used with caution. -
JW  Linux Weekly News  



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] sendmail banning no reverse dns

2002-12-04 Thread evilbunny
Hello David,

DF you might not be able to control the reverse mapping but it
DF should still map to something - which is good enough.
DF Are there co-lo places where the IP doesn't reverse map to
DF anything?  and if so, why?  (apart from incompetence
DF or cluelessness)
 
Neither, it's to do with policy of hosting large amounts of mail
domains, and not wishing to impose their reverse on the customers...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] ADSL iPrimus

2002-12-03 Thread evilbunny
Hello kevin,

Erm you really should check the account... you have 6gigs peak, 6 gigs
off peak :) for a total of up to 12 gigs a month :)

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Wednesday, December 4, 2002, 2:18:28 PM, you wrote:

ksca you could try iinet.net.au

ksca the package I am on is 79.95 per month, I have 512/128 ADSL connection
ksca Also I have 3G download during peek time and off peek I have 3G download
ksca as usual off peek is ment for insomniacs (like me) also they have blinkzone
ksca which is you can download anything from their ftp, news, or other serverices
ksca on their network, it won't be considered as a chargable download. So really if
ksca they have a really good mirror site then you could download all you like 
ksca and they won't shape your connection. Also tell'em I sent ya so that I 
ksca can get a finders fee :-)



 =  Hello All,
 =  
 =  I'm about to trade in the putt putt and get a vroom vroom. 
 =  ie. 56k to 
 =  ADSL.
 


ksca -
ksca This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[SLUG] [OT] Telstra switches to Linux/Unix

2002-11-29 Thread evilbunny
Hello syd-wireless,

  http://www.itnews.com.au/storycontent.cfm?ID=0Art_ID=11352

Telstra standardises on Linux, Unix
Telstra chief information officer Jeff Smith has revealed plans to
shift the telco's back-office systems to the Linux operating system
wherever possible, to take advantage of the platform's commodity
pricing.  

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[SLUG] [OT] IPv6

2002-11-28 Thread evilbunny
Hello syd-wireless,

  for those of you interested in playing with IPv6, progsoc at UTS is
  offering free tunnels to 6bone...

  6bone tunnels in .au email [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] Installing Gentus

2002-11-27 Thread evilbunny
Hello Chris,

sounds like lilo wasn't installed 100%

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Wednesday, November 27, 2002, 10:15:09 PM, you wrote:

CB Hi,
CB You need to be more specific as to which stage of the boot process shows
CB the 1's and 0's...

CB I'm only guessing but it sounds like you are getting the 1's and 0's at
CB the LILO prompt...is this right? if so then those 1's and 0's indicate
CB an error with Lilo. you should search google for the meaning of this
CB error message...i have them written down somewhere but dont have the
CB time to find them.


CB On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 13:37, SURESH RAMAYAH wrote:
CB hello,
 
CB I'm trying to install gentus linux (OS created by ABIT) on a PIII 500Mhz
CB with an abit jumperless motherboard. Upon installing, I get binaries
CB ones and zeros running on my screen. The system is also unable to detect
CB the video card. What is the command to install the driver in the kernel
CB at boot time?
 
CB Many thanks,
CB SR.

CB 
CB The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*  -- SLUG -
CB Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info:
CB http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re: [SLUG] problem: iptables logging to console

2002-11-24 Thread evilbunny
Hello Howard,

in debian at least, you add -c 4 to the klogd startup script and all
is well...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Monday, November 25, 2002, 9:24:20 AM, you wrote:

HL Is anyone else having problems with iptables sending LOG messages to the
HL console as well as to /var/log/messages (which is the only place they
HL should be going to).  The default setting for target LOG is level 4 which
HL I assume is either warning or err, depending on where the lowest level
HL sits.

HL The syslog.conf file only has *.emerg being directed anywhere other than
HL to a file.

HL Is this a problem with iptables, syslogd, or klogd?  I can't find any
HL reference to it, but it is persistent, and annoying, on a large number of
HL machines, and a large number of RH distro versions.

HL -- 
HL Howard.
HL LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people
HL Contact detail at http://www.lannetlinux.com
HL Flatter government, not fatter government. - me
HL  Get rid of the Australian states.
HL --
HL If electricity comes from electrons, does morality come from morons?



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] [OT] What can you do with a lots of PIIs?

2002-11-19 Thread evilbunny
Hello Jon,

throw in a wireless card and build a secure wireless access point...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Tuesday, November 19, 2002, 8:08:16 PM, you wrote:

JB At 19/11/02  17:00, you wrote:
Dear list,

A bloke is selling 'reasonable boxes' for $89

I hate to see computers going to waste.
Can anyone suggest  good uses for the boxes?

There are only so many firewalls and print servers you can make grin

Acer PII 266 Desktop 3.2Gb HDD, 64M SDRAM, FDD, LAN, Soundcard, videocard
$89, minimum 5 units

JB Hmmm Firewall, mail server, games box, 'doze test bed (eek !!), print 
JB server, and when all else fails DOORSTOP.

JB That price (if it has a cd-rom) doesn't sound too bad..

JB Jon



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re: [SLUG] PPPD with Demand Option

2002-11-13 Thread evilbunny
Hello Richard,

on/off switch on the modem :) little inconvenient, then again huge phone
bills are more so...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:evilbunny;sydneywireless.com

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.nodedb.com - Think globally, network locally
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom

Thursday, November 14, 2002, 8:24:41 AM, you wrote:

RL Hello List

RL I have a Redhat 7.2 box set up as a file server and as an internet/email
RL gateway. I am using the demand option for pppd to make the link dial
RL on demand. I have 3 PC's connected to this box and I am using samba
RL to allow them to have network drives on the Linux box. The dial
RL on demand works fine, when ever one of the PC's fires up it's browser
RL the link comes up. As they only have one POP mail account the PC
RL with Outlook Express also brings the link up no problem when Outlook
RL Express is started. I have a problem with the link coming up quite a 
RL few times for no particular reason and this is costing the client a fair
RL bit of money as they must call STD for net access as they are very remote.
RL The only guess I have is that they also use Outlook and a Microsoft
RL Postoffice on one of the PC's for internal email and are not keen to
RL change. Is it possible that when the Outlook clients check the MS Mail
RL that the PPP is starting up, even though it is not being called? I can
RL find no way to determine what is actually bringing the link up. I would
RL appreciate any thoughts on how to determine what is bringing the
RL link up and how to stop it coming up when not required.

RL Regards

RL Richard
RL 

RL Richard Luckhurst

RL Manager / Engineer
RL Sound Advice
RL P.O. Box 104
RL Narrabri NSW 2390 Australia

RL Ph / Fax +61 2 6792 6060



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[SLUG] [OT] looking for place to rent

2002-10-08 Thread evilbunny

Hello slug,

  I'm currently moving from my existing location and am looking
  for a 1 bdrm place in the St George area (pref close to Arncliffe)
  for about ~$120-130/week 

  Gave notice on existing place Saturday just past, and have 2 and a
  bit weeks to find somewhere...

  Know of anything let me know... thanks...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates
http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] Linux Slapper Worm

2002-09-18 Thread evilbunny

Hello Peter,

netstat -anp

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Wednesday, September 18, 2002, 4:51:22 PM, you wrote:

PR Thanks guys things are back under control now,

PR however I see these two row from netstat -an. Anybody know
PR what they are or how to map which processes are bound to
PR which ports?

PRudp0  0 0.0.0.0:10240.0.0.0:* 

PRudp0  0 0.0.0.0:10250.0.0.0:* 


PR Thanks

PR P.



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[SLUG] TLS and Apache-SSL

2002-09-18 Thread evilbunny

Hello slug,

  Does anyone know if it's possible to do multihost/single IP hosting
  via Apache-SSL yet (ie TLS) if so how?

  Or do I need to install mod_ssl to achieve this?

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] TLS and Apache-SSL

2002-09-18 Thread evilbunny

Hello Jeff,

This is why they invented TLS, it does plain text handshaking to work
out the nuts and bolts, then switches to crypto...

SSLv3 may require a single IP per host, TLS doesn't, however
implementation is another matter...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Wednesday, September 18, 2002, 11:05:34 PM, you wrote:

JW quote who=evilbunny

   Does anyone know if it's possible to do multihost/single IP hosting
   via Apache-SSL yet (ie TLS) if so how?
 
   Or do I need to install mod_ssl to achieve this?

JW You can't with either, because the ssl stuff is done at the IP connection
JW level, not the http Host: header (with DNS name) level. You need multiple IP
JW addresses. No buts. :-)

JW - Jeff



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re: [SLUG] cacti .deb problem

2002-09-09 Thread evilbunny

Hello Rob,

dpkg-reconfigure debconf

you need to specify a lower setting so dpkg prompt you for MySQL
settings, had the same problem with mozilla, i reset debconf to

dialog and medium...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Monday, September 9, 2002, 7:21:15 PM, you wrote:

RB OK - here's one for the debian gurus:

RB bunbun:/var/lib/mysql/mysql$ sudo apt-get install cacti
RB Password:
RB Reading Package Lists... Done
RB Building Dependency Tree... Done
RB Sorry, cacti is already the newest version.
RB 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0  not upgraded.
RB 1 packages not fully installed or removed.
RB Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
RB Setting up cacti (0.6.7-2) ...
RB ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'loop@localhost' (Using password: YES)
RB ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'loop@localhost' (Using password: YES)
RB dpkg: error processing cacti (--configure):
RB   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
RB Errors were encountered while processing:
RB   cacti

RB I have tried purging all dependencies of cacti (including all mysql stuff) 
RB but this error keeps popping up. It seems to me that the cacti configure 
RB script seems to think that it's username should be loop - but the mysql 
RB server doesn't know of a user by that name.

RB Does anyone have any ideas?

RB cheers,
RB rob

RB --
RB You mean you need drugs to hallucinate?

RB This is random quote 1236 of a collection of 1250
RB [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] cacti .deb problem

2002-09-09 Thread evilbunny

bugzilla even...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Monday, September 9, 2002, 7:19:54 PM, you wrote:

e Hello Rob,

e dpkg-reconfigure debconf

e you need to specify a lower setting so dpkg prompt you for MySQL
e settings, had the same problem with mozilla, i reset debconf to

e dialog and medium...



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[SLUG] Talk from US Wireless Enthusiast

2002-09-06 Thread evilbunny

Hello All,

  Well in November, there will be a fellow community wireless guy over
  here from the US, visiting friends and rellies, he's an ex kiwi :)
  in any case I've asked him to give a talk about what they are doing
  in the US, if memory serves he also recent gave a wireless talk at
  defcon. He's involved with personaltelco.net which is one of the
  more active in the US.

  At this stage he's okay'd to give a talk on the 9th of November, so
  those of you that are curious about the bigger world of wireless
  this will give you a chance to find out what else is happening in
  the world and ask him a few questions...

  At this stage kick off about 1pm ish, location to be announced...

  The day may possibly be used as another cantenna building day for
  those that missed out on the first one...

  I'm sure there will be other things etc... but I thought it would be
  an opportunity that may not come along all that often, and should be
  interesting...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] download speeds

2002-08-28 Thread evilbunny

Hello Michael,

http://www.traverse.com.au/general/isps.asp

list of DoV capable ISP's

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Thursday, August 29, 2002, 11:25:11 AM, you wrote:

MF Quoting David Fitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 07:12:08PM +1000, Jon Biddell wrote:
   Which is why 64K ISDN is much better even though it only looks a
 tad
   faster. (though ISDN's old hat now)
 
 yes I was somewhat surprised, I get 7KB/sec
 and the symmetrical (and synch) is good for ssh.
  
  You can still get it if you can't get ADSL, but at $1k/month plus data
 charges 
  for 64k !!!
 
 not for ISDN DoV!
 mine is effectively $21pm + approx 60c pm for calls, plus data
 (I redial automatically on sunday nights to reset my download quota).
 

MF I'd love to go DoV isdn, if only I could find a ISP in my area that would 
MF support it, and not try and charge you double the standard ISP charges for the 
MF use of it.

MF grumbles



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [LINK] Re: [SLUG] NSW DET to be urged to use OSS

2002-07-29 Thread evilbunny

Hello Jeff,

Have guys looked at the k12 linux distro

http://www.k12ltsp.org/

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Tuesday, July 30, 2002, 10:15:41 AM, you wrote:

JW quote who=David

 Watch this space. If it works well (and we believe it will), it will be
 some of the best Linux/OSS advocacy imaginable.

JW Which is funny, because I just sent an email to the cbnsw-ctte asking about
JW testimonials and case studies - for just this!

JW   ;-)

JW - Jeff

JW -- 
JW   But in the software world, that's daily business. - Kent Beck   
JW  That's pissing money away and leaving scar tissue. - Alan Cooper 



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[SLUG] NodeDB.com goes International...

2002-07-16 Thread evilbunny

Hi,

The reason for the post?

There is now an international Node Database available @ www.nodedb.com

What's a node database?it's a databaseof nodes.nodes being points
on the network. So add yourself, and see who else pops up around you then
talk to them about connecting if you so desire.

To find which community group you can join, www.nodedb.com/links.php has a
listing of quite a lot of the groups.

If your region isn't shown, just drop me an email...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


Re[2]: [SLUG] Source IP address

2002-06-28 Thread evilbunny

Hello Martin,

Routers can check the source, and they can filter based on a simple
set of rules that only allows IP's that should go through the fact
that they allow different source addresses cause many headaches for
admin... flip side being unidirectional satellite setups need to
send an alternate source address to have the traffic come back via the
satellite link...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Friday, June 28, 2002, 4:23:09 PM, you wrote:

VMS Hu? In fact most routers don't check the source, nor do they care, which is 
why certain DoS attacks that spoof source IP addresses work. IP routing today is 
nearly always based only on the
VMS destination address. In normal IP packet forwarding, the source and destination 
IP address of a packet doesn't change during router hops (MAC/physical does). Hence a 
router receeiving packets
VMS from another router will see all sorts of source IP addresses but it will not 
always have an iron-clad mechanism of determining they came from a legitimate source. 
The only way you can tell
VMS where the previous hop was is by the physical line and/or the source MAC address 
(which is usually the router's interface), but of course even this can be spoofed. 

VMS However, you are correct about the default behaviour when a locally-generated 
packet leaves a interface in linux. (This doesn't apply to a routed/forwarded packet)

VMS I would probably use iptables to do what John wishes.

VMS Regards, Martin
  

VMS Martin Visser
VMS Network Consultant - Global Services
VMS COMPAQ, part of the new HP

VMS 3 Richardson Place
VMS North Ryde, Sydney NSW 2113, Australia
VMS Phone *: +61-2-9022-1670Mobile *: +61-411-254-513
VMSFax 7: +61-2-9022-1800 E-mail * : martin.visserAThp.com




VMS -Original Message-
VMS From: Glen Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
VMS Sent: Friday, 28 June 2002 3:32 PM
VMS To: slug
VMS Subject: Re: [SLUG] Source IP address



 Is it possible to use iproute2 or something similar to use a particular
 source address when sending to a particular subnet? (2.4 kernel)

VMS The default behaviour is for a packet exiting ethN to have the source
VMS IP address of ethN.

VMS The router on ethN is perfectly entitled to discard packets coming
VMS off that subnet which have the wrong source address (and the router
VMS should be configured to do so).



smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


[SLUG] Hmmm

2002-06-25 Thread evilbunny

Heya slug,

  Looking to buy an Adaptec ide raid card for a client, the 1200a does
  Raid 0 (which is all they want) but there isn't any mention of linux
  drivers for this... on the Adaptec site it only mentions the 2400a,
  which has a $400ex price difference, or in most likely hood I
  wouldn't actually need to tell the computer how to use it any
  differently, the BIOS would handle it all?

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[2]: [SLUG] To ADSL or Not to ADSL

2002-06-20 Thread evilbunny

Hello DaZZa,

or you could try alleviating the problems by other means...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Friday, June 21, 2002, 11:01:33 AM, you wrote:

D On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Rodney Sommerville wrote:

 That is the Question???

D Not. At least until someone gets off their backside and forces the prices
D down.

D Even more not since Telstra started capping their unlimited accounts at
D 3 gig.

D DaZZa

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[4]: [SLUG] To ADSL or Not to ADSL

2002-06-20 Thread evilbunny

Hello DaZZa,

Is why I said alleviate and not replace :)

If you needed a linux ISO, and your friend or a server on the network
is storing a copy, at 100k/sec or more, and at zero cost of data to
everyone involved...

Even 1.5Mbps ADSL only has a theoretical maximum of about 187k/sec, and
32k/sec upload...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Friday, June 21, 2002, 11:19:30 AM, you wrote:

D On Fri, 21 Jun 2002, evilbunny wrote:

 or you could try alleviating the problems by other means...

D If you're referring to Sydney Wireless (and I assume you are from your
D email address), from what I read on their web site recently the wireless
D network actually has no net connection?

D Or am I wrong?

D Doesn't work up my way anyhow. :-)

D DaZZa

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



[SLUG] issues...

2002-06-10 Thread evilbunny

Hello slug,

  I'm currently trying to setup spamassassin to filter a mailing list
  run by mailman...

  current config in virtuals...

  xyz.com:mailman

  in the mailman dir I have a .qmail-default with...

  |preline /usr/bin/python /var/lib/mailman/qmail-to-mailman.py

  if I shift this line into .procmailrc it complains about not having
  been run from qmail, is there any other way of doing this on a per
  user basis rather then server wide?

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[2]: [SLUG] Using multi port ethernet pci card to create ''VLANS

2002-05-30 Thread evilbunny

Hello Chris,

Intel make dual/quad cards, and they use the normal intel driver and
works fine as far as I can tell...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

Friday, May 31, 2002, 3:14:34 PM, you wrote:

CB Sun Microsystems have a piece of hardware called a Quad Fast ethernet
CB interface...basically its 4x100megabit ethernet nics in 1 pci card. I have
CB no idea if it would work in a standard pc but i dont see why not because its
CB just a pci device. I also dont know if there would be a driver for it for
CB linux but i dont see why not.
CB The other problem is that the card might be pricy. I havent seen them for
CB sale seperately, i've only seen them in Sun Ultra 10's
CB Try looking on e-bay for a cheap Quad Fast, then do some research to see how
CB compatible it is in a standard pc, and look for a linux driver. Google
CB should be a good place to find out how compatible the Quad Fast is with a
CB standard pc and would also help you find a linux driver for it.
CB - Original Message -
CB From: Richard Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CB To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CB Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:42 PM
CB Subject: [SLUG] Using multi port ethernet pci card to create ''VLANS


 Dear list,

 Does anyone know a multiport ethernet that does not act as a switch/hub.

 What I am trying to do to use the Linux box to phyically join a network
 without purchasing a managed switch but keeping the various segments
CB private.

 eg Router -Linux box  - port1 192.168.0.x - port 2 192.168.1.0 - port
CB 3
 192.168.2.x  etc

 regards,


 --
 Richard Hayes
 Talent Internet
 http://www.talent.com.au
 Tel: (02) 9439 8300 Fax: (02) 9439 8327 Mob: 0414 618 425
 ABN 94 002 775 215
 --
 SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
 More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



[SLUG] In need of some advice...

2002-05-01 Thread evilbunny

Hello slug,

  ok any1 offer any advice on this... need a backup solution, on a
  data backup of about 20gigs a day, however has to be taken off site,
  and tapes isn't an acceptable solution as the client did accept it
  as a solution... also can't shut the box down...

  At this stage some sort of USB (speed isn't an issue) or
  wireless/off site box else where is the current thinking...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

http://www.SydneyWireless.com - Exercise your communications
freedom to make it do what you never thought possible... 

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[2]: [SLUG] Avoiding the Microsoft Tax [was Latest Microsoft Stupidity]

2002-04-22 Thread evilbunny

Hello Peter,

Supermicro, Intel and Compaq rack mountable hardware to name a few,
all offer on and off site warranties, and don't generally come with
an OS...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 10:53:19 AM, you wrote:



yadda yadda yadda SNIP

Can we PLEASE take this to slug-chat

PR I agree that just bashing M$ licensing issues on this list is off topic, 
PR but I didn't do that did I? I asked how to buy hardware with Linux as 
PR the OS instead of M$, why is that considered off topic? I thought that 
PR this was a discussion list for Linux issues and what could be a bigger 
PR issue for Linux than new installations paying a tax to the competing 
PR product?

PR Or is this discussion list only for Linux technical issues?

PR Furthermore to those of you who suggested that I buy clones, would you 
PR be willing to provide the 3year on-site warranty with that?

PR If Linux groups are not interested in doing anything to address this 
PR issue then it sure as hell ain't going to be resolved by M$ or the G'ment.


PR rgds

PR Pete

PR P.S

PR If it sounds like I'm pissed off then that's because I am!

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re: [SLUG] Configuring a satellite (iHug service)

2002-04-22 Thread evilbunny

Hello ramon,

due to spoof prevention... have a look in you boot scripts for rp_filter

and change...

for f in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/rp_filter; do
echo 1  $f
done

to

for f in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/*/rp_filter; do
echo 0  $f
done

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tuesday, April 23, 2002, 11:47:36 AM, you wrote:

rb Hi peoples,

rb I've got a tricky one which has got me a little stumped..

rb I'm installing satellite for my net connection. Ive got it all working
rb The ISP is a reseller of the iHUG service.

rb The Dial up account is with a local ISP. (not an iHug specific account)
rb Ive got the card all configured (ie the driver loads etc)
rb and the Dialup appears to allow me to change my source IP outgoing.

rb How does it the satellite stuff work:
rb data goes out via the ppp0:0 (dialup) interface
rb with a source address of the Satellite card

rb The satellite card is configured with a dummy IP address
rb and it receives packets (from my ISP) sent to the external IP Address.
rb (there is an app running in bg that 'locks' on to the satellite and get the
rb data)

rb How is it setup:?
rb (say the satellite External IP address is 1.2.3.4 ie real.
rb the card drivers are loaded
rb The module is loaded into the kernel and then the app is loaded.
rb The the 'NIC' side of the card is configured.
rb # ifconfig sm200d 10.0.0.1

rb Dialup the ISP via modem (local IP given 5.5.5.1, remote ip given
rb 5.5.5.254)
rb # ifconfig ppp0:0 1.2.3.4 netmask 255.255.255.255 pointopoint 5.5.5.254

rb delet the old ppp0 route
rb # route del default

rb add new route (via ppp0:0 so it sets the source of the IP to the sat IP)
rb # route add default gw 5.5.5.254 dev ppp0:0

rb What happens ?
rb I can ping an external host
rb # ping www.ibm.com

rb The return ping response actually DO come back on the sm200d interface

rb   sm200dLink encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
rb   inet addr:10.0.0.1  Bcast:10.255.255.255  Mask:255.0.0.0
rb   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
rb  RX packets:97 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
rb   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
rb   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
rb   Interrupt:9

rb The box I am doing this on is a firewall (smoothwall) but I have dropped
rb all the
rb ipchains ruls and set default policies for input,output as ACCEPT and
rb forward as MASQ (because there is an internal network attached to eth0 @
rb 192.168.1.0

rb And I also set some ipchains logging with ipchains -A input -d 1.2.3.4 -l
rb and I can see all the reponses come back ..

rb my question?
rb How do I get the card/linux to deliver them to the application (eg ping) or
rb whatever
rb given that they come back on a different interface to what sent out on?

rb How can I debug this further to see where/why they are going no where?

rb How is this 'jump' between NIC's configured ?



rb Any suggestions are MUCHly appreciated! :^)

rb - ramon.






rb This email was sent to you by Ramon Buckland, Software Engineer at f5.
rb You can reach Ramon directly on 0421 379 694.

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[2]: [SLUG] Backup Mail servers (OT)

2002-04-15 Thread evilbunny

Hello David,

DF well that's what the discussion has been about, search back a few weeks
DF for the replies to my thread on the subject of secondary mx's.

DF If you have a secondary on the same site as your primary then it covers
DF you if the primary goes down but not if your site is cut off from the
DF net.  You could then have a tertiary mx that is off site of course.
DF Or you could not have any.

It is my understanding that a secondary MX will still reject the mail
5 days after just like any other mailserver on the net would if you
don't have a server up and running that can collect the mail or
redirect it to another server in that time, the only benefit for
secondary MX's is if there is a dialup and the ISP has dynamic IP's
etc and while everything updated etc...

or having it on the same site, because then you shouldn't get hit with
a surge of mail coming in once all the servers realise your server is
back up, and like wise they won't try to hit a dead IP, they'll shift
it along to the next preferanced server...

there is a downside... the secondary can be used to spam you, as it
can't check if they are a valid account until it's shunted to the
primary or a server that deals with it...

feel free to correct me if i'm wrong...

/2cents

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



[SLUG] USB Webcam

2002-03-24 Thread evilbunny

  Does anyone know if the cheap run of the mill USB webcams work under
  linux, if so how?

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[2]: [SLUG] Downloading to a floppy.

2002-03-10 Thread evilbunny

Hello Anand,

I have a similar problem however I'd like to use compression if
possible, I need to do backups of about 9Gigs of hdd space to CDs, I
can all but do this, my biggest problem at this stage is the restore
not so much the backup it self, any suggestions appreciated...

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, March 11, 2002, 3:34:22 PM, you wrote:

AK On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 03:12:35PM +1100, Bill Bennett wrote:
 I've got a file on the laptop that I'd like to download to floppies.
 
 Unfortunately the file will run to 3 floppiesworth.
 
 When I used to use pkzip, I could tell the programme to download
 and if the floppy filled up it would add a to be continued and
 tell you to bung in a second (or third etc.) floppy. The only
 thing to be remembered was to upload the discs in reverse order.
 

AK Another option is ras.

AK URL: http://www.progsoc.uts.edu.au/lists/slug/2000/June/msg00781.html

AK Anand

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[2]: [SLUG] (no subject)

2002-02-17 Thread evilbunny

Hello Chris,

aussiepcshop.com.au are the last place I'd buy from, I've had dealings
with this company and persons running it in the past and well, you
often get what you pay for is all I can say.

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, February 18, 2002, 1:09:16 AM, you wrote:

CB Yep, I think thje North Rocks markets are pretty good. Was there this
CB weekend. Scored my self a Sun SparcStation 5 brand new, still in box with
CB all manuals, etc for a pretty good price (for all those Sun fans =op )
CB Another place is http://www.aussiepcshop.com.au although I had a fair bit of
CB trouble with them sending me the wrong hardware...and they took long enough
CB too.

CB --

CB -Original Message-
CB From: Ken Foskey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
CB Sent: Sunday, 17 February 2002 12:08 PM
CB To: slug
CB Subject: Re: [SLUG] (no subject)

CB On Sun, 2002-02-17 at 00:41, Michael Jordan wrote:

CB I know this is a bit out of topic, but I am a bit desperate! Can anyone
CB recommend a place that offers cheap/reasonably priced hardware? In
CB particular I am in dire need for a hard disk, cd burner and a stick of
CB memory. 

CB There are a few markets around.  North Rocks Market,  there is one an
CB round house UNSW (I think).   You might search the archive for north
CB rocks on recomendations on vendors at North Rocks there have been good
CB and bad results.  There is also one at Granville apparently (which I
CB have never found).

CB KenF

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[4]: [SLUG] (no subject)

2002-02-17 Thread evilbunny

Hello Chris,

It's a freebe shop anyways...

www.theexchangeproject.com though it's been renamed to
http://www.oscommerce.com so yea any idiot can put up a shop, but
looking after your customers is what counts.

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Monday, February 18, 2002, 1:46:57 AM, you wrote:

CB Yeah it's a shame. Their site is nice and easy to navigate, their prices
CB aren't too bad but it really cheezed me off when I waited 2 weeks to find
CB out my order hadn't been shipped because my credit card was rejected and no
CB one told me until I called them 2 weeks later. After I finally got the goods
CB it was the wrong stuff. I called them and told them they sent the wrong gear
CB but they just told me to send it back at my expense and it will be replaced.
CB If they put a little more effort into looking after customers then I might
CB consider buying from them again.
CB It's a damn shame, that's all I can say.

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



[SLUG] Paintball/Skirmish

2002-02-12 Thread evilbunny

Hello slug,

  We're trying to raise money for equipment in Sydney for a community
  based wireless project, as well as a get together, are planning to
  hold a paintball/skirmish day for more information and to show
  expressions of interest there will be news items up on the
  http://www.sydneywireless.com website.

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re: [SLUG] Sydney Wireless Mailing List up

2002-01-16 Thread evilbunny

Before I ever set about setting up a new domain/project I searched
mailing lists, the web other wireless project sites (the only project
listed in Sydney was the Nepean one, which no one seems to know
anything about) and the sydney.air.net.au group (which I might add
never replied to emails sent to them) I also assumed they were dead,
and in any case didn't cover the area myself or my friends are in, and
as to date I've gotten 2 APs which will be going up shortly, I shall
ask the question to this list, are there any active projects happening
in Sydney, with equipment and active links, APs etc etc etc I should
be talking to, because all I've found so far is a few friends with
point to point links and nothing in the way of a plan for expansion,
or even the motivation to get to it and organise people into a what
could be a very good thing for Sydney, both to those without access to
cable and those with it. So far to date I have the 2 APs I purchased
last week, plus another 2 I can get for installing a point to point
link for a business associate plus another business meeting on Friday
with another business associate that could possibly inject sponsorship
into the project. There is another project, secret.net.au however I
too believe this is mostly a dead project, please correct me if I'm
wrong.

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunny  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.sydneywireless.com

 

Yep. Not much I can do about that.

http://www.sydney.air.net.au has been up for some months before
www.sydneywireless.com, which has only been up for a few weeks. So who is
reinventing the wheel?

-- Jon
Teh

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug



Re[2]: [SLUG] Sydney Wireless Mailing List up

2002-01-16 Thread evilbunny

Hello Terry,

No there are actually a couple of hobby point to point links, and at
least 1 of these has listed themselves in the node database of
interested persons already, and my interest and talking to others has
already sparked interest in possibly a few more until something bigger
can link them in, currently there's plans to reach the city, ryde,
seven hills, possibly further, and at least point an access point up at
Campbelltown, and some surrounding areas, unsure when this will be
linked into the rest though, I'll post news items as they come up to
the website.

-- 
Best regards,
 evilbunnymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.sydneywireless.com

Thursday, January 17, 2002, 9:25:57 AM, you wrote:

TC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

TC You seem to be confusing hobby and business links.

TC There are no hobby links that I know of, but I only offer a page for
TC listing details if people want to make contact with other interested
TC people.

TC There are definitely a number of business links operating, but companies
TC do not publiscise these for security reasons.

TC Most businesses avoid business to business links because of fear of
TC breaching regulations and carrier licence requirements, etc. (All
TC mentioned in slug archives a number of times).

TC Sydney is a big place as far as small lan wireless links and lower end
TC microwave links go, so there is room for many such projects.

TC Of course, if a few people took out $2 lottery tickets and won, it might
TC all get a kick on.

-- 
SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/
More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug