Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:01 +1000, Heracles wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Just found my own answer. I still had the old libswfdecmozilla plugin loaded so it was trying to display the flash. Removed the link and it now works EXCEPT for the sound. Heracles Heracles wrote: Has anyone had much luck with the 64 bit flash plugin. I can't seem to get it to work properly. All I get is a black screen. Make sure you are using the genuine alpha for Flash. There is a nswrapper thing that is really dodgy. This might help, have only scanned it but looks pretty good http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/adobe-flash-10-64-bit-use-the-alpha-version-instead/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ken Foskey wrote: Snip... Make sure you are using the genuine alpha for Flash. There is a nswrapper thing that is really dodgy. This might help, have only scanned it but looks pretty good http://ubuntulinuxhelp.com/adobe-flash-10-64-bit-use-the-alpha-version-instead/ Thanks Ken, I checked and I am using the official alpha plugin libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz to be exact. I can now get silent video perfectly, that is I get no sound. My sound card is a Creative Sound Blaster Live! and the onboard sound is turned off in the BIOS so all shpuld be fine. I have sound in all other applications and if I capture a flash file and play it back using Totem 2.22.1 I get sound. Heracles -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJ/vRHybPcBAs9CE8RAvuWAKCAgVDpcMM1UrkL22w8D+vzIOfaogCdGoTR WjAy0YE93pReRg5DbQCcINo= =y77T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
heracles == heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au writes: heracles -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 heracles Ken Foskey wrote: Snip... heracles Thanks Ken, I checked and I am using the official alpha heracles plugin libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz to heracles be exact. I can now get silent video perfectly, that is I heracles get no sound. My sound card is a Creative Sound Blaster heracles Live! and the onboard sound is turned off in the BIOS so all heracles shpuld be fine. I have sound in all other applications and heracles if I capture a flash file and play it back using Totem heracles 2.22.1 I get sound. Last I remember, Mozilla+Flash tries to use the (obsolete) OSS framework instead of ALSA. I think there's a wrpper programme you can use to force use of ALSA, but its name currently escapes me. On a related topic, has anyone been able to get the GNU Flash replacement, gnash, working well? For me, it seems to leak memory, and use up lots of processor time without displaying things correctly --- same as the non-free flash player. Peter c -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
pe...@chubb.wattle.id.au writes: heracles == heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au writes: heracles Ken Foskey wrote: Snip... heracles Thanks Ken, I checked and I am using the official alpha heracles plugin libflashplayer-10.0.22.87.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz to heracles be exact. I can now get silent video perfectly, that is I heracles get no sound. My sound card is a Creative Sound Blaster heracles Live! and the onboard sound is turned off in the BIOS so all heracles shpuld be fine. I have sound in all other applications and heracles if I capture a flash file and play it back using Totem heracles 2.22.1 I get sound. Last I remember, Mozilla+Flash tries to use the (obsolete) OSS framework instead of ALSA. No longer, in Flash 10, which is nice. I think there's a wrpper programme you can use to force use of ALSA, but its name currently escapes me. Historically, libflashsupport, which the OP indicated he had an older version of installed that caused some of the problems with crashing. On a related topic, has anyone been able to get the GNU Flash replacement, gnash, working well? Well? No. For me, it seems to leak memory, and use up lots of processor time without displaying things correctly --- same as the non-free flash player. Just like my experience, only non-free Flash gets it right occasionally, at least. ;) More seriously, none of the free Flash replacements worked correctly outside of the Firefox environment when I last tested them, which was very disappointing. Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
Ken Foskey fos...@tpg.com.au writes: On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 14:01 +1000, Heracles wrote: Just found my own answer. I still had the old libswfdecmozilla plugin loaded so it was trying to display the flash. Removed the link and it now works EXCEPT for the sound. Heracles Heracles wrote: Has anyone had much luck with the 64 bit flash plugin. I can't seem to get it to work properly. All I get is a black screen. Make sure you are using the genuine alpha for Flash. There is a nswrapper thing that is really dodgy. I think you mean nspluginwrapper, which is a tool that runs Netscape compatible plugins in a separate process from the main Firefox process. The underlying model is sound[1], but since nspluginwrapper is not as well integrated into the browser — being separately developed — it has some minor rough edges. Generally speaking, keeping up to date with the latest release of nspluginwrapper if you are updating your plugins is a good plan. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Opera have used it for years, and it works extremely well. Flash crashing never peturbed the browser, which was good when it did that approximately every time it was used. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
Quoting Daniel Pittman dan...@rimspace.net: More seriously, none of the free Flash replacements worked correctly outside of the Firefox environment when I last tested them, which was very disappointing. Flash crashes in Firefox occasionally and gives up on some of my son's flash games which frustrates him however I always get good results from vlc playing flash. I use an extension to grab the media file then play it outside firefox. Ta Ken -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
fos...@tpg.com.au writes: Quoting Daniel Pittman dan...@rimspace.net: More seriously, none of the free Flash replacements worked correctly outside of the Firefox environment when I last tested them, which was very disappointing. Flash crashes in Firefox occasionally and gives up on some of my son's flash games which frustrates him however I always get good results from vlc playing flash. I use an extension to grab the media file then play it outside firefox. Apropos my other comment, the latest releases of nspluginwrapper support native mode where they run a 32/32 or 64/64 plugin in their out of process model. You might find it worthwhile to try that and see if it insulates you from having the entire browser crash just because flash did. (Plus, the flashblock extension is your friend, so that you don't get a dozen competitive pages with flash at ones, but you probably already knew that. :) Regards, Daniel -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
On 05/05/2009, at 12:09 PM, Daniel Pittman wrote: (Plus, the flashblock extension is your friend, so that you don't get a dozen competitive pages with flash at ones, but you probably already knew that. :) I used to run a plugin which i think was called aniblock, which gave you options of not running animated gifs (or running once only), but you could right click the gif and run it if you wanted. Anyone know how to do this now? ATM I've turned animated gifs off via about:config but I've lost the option of right clicking running them. -- http://chesterton.id.au/blog/ http://barrang.com.au/ -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] 64 bit flash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone had much luck with the 64 bit flash plugin. I can't seem to get it to work properly. All I get is a black screen. Heracles -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJ/mD0ybPcBAs9CE8RApnBAKC+PdQd/Tu+DypmOnqyUrDj4q4HgQCggs5W rcmn6fbWbfgwsShEHTYePUA= =FSv9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au writes: Has anyone had much luck with the 64 bit flash plugin. I can't seem to get it to work properly. All I get is a black screen. Yes, but. The first but is that you told us exactly nothing about your environment, so the fact that it works fine for me under Opera on Debian/sid may not mean anything if you run a different browser, distribution or whatever. The second but is that if you have a 64-bit CPU without LAHF support the JIT engine behind 64-bit flash will emit those instructions anyway[1] and cause the flash plugin to crash. This is a known issue, reported to Adobe, and they have given no indication of any response to it at all. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Apparently 64-bit Windows emulates them in software if they are absent, but Linux doesn't, so this work fine for Windows... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, Just found my own answer. I still had the old libswfdecmozilla plugin loaded so it was trying to display the flash. Removed the link and it now works EXCEPT for the sound. Heracles Heracles wrote: Has anyone had much luck with the 64 bit flash plugin. I can't seem to get it to work properly. All I get is a black screen. Heracles -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJ/miUybPcBAs9CE8RAhQXAKC+YdM27K7p2I2b4jXmkucWC6ITmwCgxVUQ d/rTNReGEi/sYx9pLZ94SvQ= =x2Rj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] 64 bit flash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just found out that one of the flags is LAHF_lm. Environment is Ubuntu 8.04 X86_64 with 1.5GB RAM Flash now works with no sound. Thanks Heracles Daniel Pittman wrote: Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au writes: Has anyone had much luck with the 64 bit flash plugin. I can't seem to get it to work properly. All I get is a black screen. Yes, but. The first but is that you told us exactly nothing about your environment, so the fact that it works fine for me under Opera on Debian/sid may not mean anything if you run a different browser, distribution or whatever. The second but is that if you have a 64-bit CPU without LAHF support the JIT engine behind 64-bit flash will emit those instructions anyway[1] and cause the flash plugin to crash. This is a known issue, reported to Adobe, and they have given no indication of any response to it at all. Regards, Daniel Footnotes: [1] Apparently 64-bit Windows emulates them in software if they are absent, but Linux doesn't, so this work fine for Windows... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJ/mrwybPcBAs9CE8RAs4pAJ9mT5pe5NwmY5GJXsK6nJfn0OvDzACgq4EY Ln9KsE3XVNm/SDOYntpMQes= =r3H0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] 64 bit flash chroot
Hi once again, I am running Ubuntu Breezy 64 bit for the first time, it seems stable and pretty good. I ran into a hurdle though, there is no 64bit flashplayer, and the mplayer codecs dont work on 64 bit. I read that I can run a 32 bit firefox in a chroot environment and therefore be able to use all the plugins etc. Can I do the same with mplayer and its codecs?? I really have no idea how to do this, can someone point me to a good howto? yes I did google but got frustrated, Im obviously not very good at finding what I am after. I am hoping I dont have to go back to 32 bit Ubuntu, it seems a shame not to use the hardware for what it was designed for. Also for the 64 bit desktop users out there, is there anything else I have to look out for other than flash and codecs not working? Thanks again Tuxta -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
