Re: [SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-15 Thread David Lyon
I will give pclinux a go next time, I think.

Well, by lack of answers it would seem Android may just be a toy.
Given nobody is putting their hand up to say 'yeah, its a good work
tool'.

Will run a phone though.. No debate about that.

On 12/15/11, Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 On 15/12/11 13:02, David Lyon wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:45 AM, James Linderj...@tigger.ws  wrote:
 When an elderly and distinguished scientist say something is not possible
 he is nearly always wrongsmile
 I know I could buy more memory or get multicores.. involves money and
 time..

 The memory footprint of ubuntu 11 is obviously too much for the hardware I
 have
 and I'm not claiming anything else.

 I found Puppy to be kewl, but a bit off the beaten track. I used it for
 small embedded stuff, and much as I'm not a fan of the whole ubuntu
 paradgsm it does work and there is lots of expertise if you need it.

 Still if puppy works for you then use it :-)
 Embedded is what I'm working on.. so the speed advantage is what I need.
 PCLinuxOS is fast, uses a light X11 interface and works well in older
 hardware and just about set up my wifi for me. I have the 64bit version
 and it flies.
 Heracles

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Re: [SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-15 Thread James Linder

On 16/12/2011, at 9:00 AM, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:

 On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:45 AM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:
 When an elderly and distinguished scientist say something is not possible he 
 is nearly always wrong smile
 
 I know I could buy more memory or get multicores.. involves money and time..
 
 The memory footprint of ubuntu 11 is obviously too much for the hardware I 
 have
 and I'm not claiming anything else.
 
 I found Puppy to be kewl, but a bit off the beaten track. I used it for 
 small embedded stuff, and much as I'm not a fan of the whole ubuntu paradgsm 
 it does work and there is lots of expertise if you need it.
 
 Still if puppy works for you then use it :-)
 
 Embedded is what I'm working on.. so the speed advantage is what I need.

Just to harp on for a moment
U11 does not have any significant memory issues, gnome and the GUI do.
Ditch those and you are good to go.
U makes it easy to do and to manage.

And to harp yet more ... embedded and speed have nothing to do with each other, 
you can have any combination that you choose.
Both U and Knoppix running from ramdisk are really slick n quick

If you are playing with ARM, I am finding the gumstix overo to be rather neat. 
http://gumstix.com

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[SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-14 Thread David Lyon
I have been using Ubuntu 10.10 for work - just fine. At home I tried Ubuntu 11
and one my one or two year old hardware it just has unacceptable performance
ie 10 - 20 seconds to respond to menu clicks etc.

So, there is Android 3.2 from:

 http://www.android-x86.org/

Any good for tech work? ie light development, modding websites, ftp, python,
databases etc.

I notice it has dosbox, geany and most of the other tools are ported.
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Re: [SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-14 Thread David



On 15/12/11 09:54, David Lyon wrote:

I have been using Ubuntu 10.10 for work - just fine. At home I tried Ubuntu 11
and one my one or two year old hardware it just has unacceptable performance
ie 10 - 20 seconds to respond to menu clicks etc.


Curious... My two year old hardware is just fine on 11.04

I just installed 11.04 on a R50 thinkpad for a friend and it was 
perfectly acceptable.




So, there is Android 3.2 from:

  http://www.android-x86.org/

Any good for tech work? ie light development, modding websites, ftp, python,
databases etc.

I notice it has dosbox, geany and most of the other tools are ported.


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Re: [SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-14 Thread David Lyon
maybe 2 years is really 5 or 6..

Actually, I just jumped over to learn Puppy Linux. Pretty hardcore
but everything is quite good. Ubuntu has nice graphical effects but
I have work to do and willing to lose them in an effort to get some
stuff done..

still curious about Android..
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Re: [SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-14 Thread Mark Walkom
Did you try XFCE or something a little more light weight on the GUI front?
Or even disable all the default fancy stuff.

I am still running 10 and gnome 2.3 and don't have any issues on a laptop
at least 4 years old, looking to upgrade this weekend to 11.something and
XFCE.

On 15 December 2011 10:18, David Lyon david.lyon.preissh...@gmail.comwrote:

 maybe 2 years is really 5 or 6..

 Actually, I just jumped over to learn Puppy Linux. Pretty hardcore
 but everything is quite good. Ubuntu has nice graphical effects but
 I have work to do and willing to lose them in an effort to get some
 stuff done..

 still curious about Android..
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Re: [SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-14 Thread James Linder

On 15/12/2011, at 9:00 AM, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:

 I have been using Ubuntu 10.10 for work - just fine. At home I tried Ubuntu 11
 and one my one or two year old hardware it just has unacceptable performance
 ie 10 - 20 seconds to respond to menu clicks etc.
 
 So, there is Android 3.2 from:
 
 http://www.android-x86.org/
 
 Any good for tech work? ie light development, modding websites, ftp, python,
 databases etc.
 
 I notice it has dosbox, geany and most of the other tools are ported.

I'll bet your issue is 3D graphics

I have and do do and do like fvwm. If that is a bit daunting (use the editor 
luke) try mint 12

Not able to offer any comment on android.

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Re: [SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-14 Thread David Lyon
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:45 AM, James Linder j...@tigger.ws wrote:
 When an elderly and distinguished scientist say something is not possible he 
 is nearly always wrong smile

I know I could buy more memory or get multicores.. involves money and time..

The memory footprint of ubuntu 11 is obviously too much for the hardware I have
and I'm not claiming anything else.

 I found Puppy to be kewl, but a bit off the beaten track. I used it for small 
 embedded stuff, and much as I'm not a fan of the whole ubuntu paradgsm it 
 does work and there is lots of expertise if you need it.

 Still if puppy works for you then use it :-)

Embedded is what I'm working on.. so the speed advantage is what I need.
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Re: [SLUG] Android for work

2011-12-14 Thread Heracles

On 15/12/11 13:02, David Lyon wrote:

On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 9:45 AM, James Linderj...@tigger.ws  wrote:

When an elderly and distinguished scientist say something is not possible he is 
nearly always wrongsmile

I know I could buy more memory or get multicores.. involves money and time..

The memory footprint of ubuntu 11 is obviously too much for the hardware I have
and I'm not claiming anything else.


I found Puppy to be kewl, but a bit off the beaten track. I used it for small 
embedded stuff, and much as I'm not a fan of the whole ubuntu paradgsm it does 
work and there is lots of expertise if you need it.

Still if puppy works for you then use it :-)

Embedded is what I'm working on.. so the speed advantage is what I need.
PCLinuxOS is fast, uses a light X11 interface and works well in older 
hardware and just about set up my wifi for me. I have the 64bit version 
and it flies.

Heracles

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