Re: [SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-21 Thread Ken Foskey
Simply create a new partition and copy  the contents.  Use cp -r / 
path /mounted/new/path/


  If you have to use dd then create a partition exactly the same size  
then gparted can grow it afterwards


Ken Foskey
On the move

On 20/01/2010, at 2:00 PM, Mike Andy beatbreake...@gmail.com wrote:


I've been thus far unable to do to - maybe you can explain how.

for example, if i do a dd from a 120Gb to a 150Gb and then enter into
something like gparted or fdisk there seems to be no way i can simply
expand the disk beyond the original 120Gb boundaries. If there was
unformatted/unpartitioned space within that 120Gb then things can be
moved around there but not outside the original disk boundaries.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jake Anderson  
ya...@vapourforge.com wrote:

Mike Andy wrote:


from my experience when you use dd you cannot resize after that
because it's made an exact bit by bit clone of that hard drive



which you then can resize with the numerous partition resizing  
tools out

there.


if you're concerned about how much you're downloading use parted
magic, much smaller than ubuntu and includes both gparted and
clonezilla all in one





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Re: [SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-21 Thread Amos Shapira
2010/1/20 Ken Foskey kfos...@tpg.com.au:
 Simply create a new partition and copy  the contents.  Use cp -r /path
 /mounted/new/path/

Preferably cp -a - which should preserve more of the original file's
attributes.

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Re: [SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-19 Thread Mike Andy
I've been thus far unable to do to - maybe you can explain how.

for example, if i do a dd from a 120Gb to a 150Gb and then enter into
something like gparted or fdisk there seems to be no way i can simply
expand the disk beyond the original 120Gb boundaries. If there was
unformatted/unpartitioned space within that 120Gb then things can be
moved around there but not outside the original disk boundaries.

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jake Anderson ya...@vapourforge.com wrote:
 Mike Andy wrote:

 from my experience when you use dd you cannot resize after that
 because it's made an exact bit by bit clone of that hard drive


 which you then can resize with the numerous partition resizing tools out
 there.

 if you're concerned about how much you're downloading use parted
 magic, much smaller than ubuntu and includes both gparted and
 clonezilla all in one



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Re: [SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-19 Thread Matthew Hannigan

 Use rysnc -a  or cp -a

 dd just brings in issues you don't need to deal with.


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 02:00:49PM +1100, Mike Andy wrote:
 I've been thus far unable to do to - maybe you can explain how.
 
 for example, if i do a dd from a 120Gb to a 150Gb and then enter into
 something like gparted or fdisk there seems to be no way i can simply
 expand the disk beyond the original 120Gb boundaries. If there was
 unformatted/unpartitioned space within that 120Gb then things can be
 moved around there but not outside the original disk boundaries.
 
 On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Jake Anderson ya...@vapourforge.com wrote:
  Mike Andy wrote:
 
  from my experience when you use dd you cannot resize after that
  because it's made an exact bit by bit clone of that hard drive
 
 
  which you then can resize with the numerous partition resizing tools out
  there.
 
  if you're concerned about how much you're downloading use parted
  magic, much smaller than ubuntu and includes both gparted and
  clonezilla all in one
 
 
 
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Re: [SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-18 Thread Jake Anderson

Henare Degan wrote:

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 01:34, Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
  

Hi All,
I have a friend's HDD which has a Slackware server install. It is
essential that It stay intact but I need to clone it to another drive.
On the original drive the installer fixed the partition at 4 GB but I
wish to let it have a bit more space - say 20 GB.
Do I need to use dd or is there a simple gui way. I need to copy ALL the
files across.

Thanks
Heracles



I think you want Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/

Cheers,

Henare
  
personally I would use DD to copy then gparted to expand, but I believe 
that gparted can do the whole copy and resize thing these days in a nice 
pointy + clicky way.


gparted livecd is ~140mb last I looked I think.
I usually boot an ubuntu livecd and then install gparted onto the live 
image.




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Re: [SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-18 Thread james
On Tuesday 19 January 2010 09:00:04 slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:
 I have a friend's HDD which has a Slackware server install. It is
 essential that It stay intact but I need to clone it to another drive.
 On the original drive the installer fixed the partition at 4 GB but I
 wish to let it have a bit more space - say 20 GB.
 Do I need to use dd or is there a simple gui way. I need to copy ALL the
 files across.

Your question reveals helpme-howto rather than helpme-bestway.
Here is a recipe, change it to suit:

install the second disk in the machine, partition and format it.

boot the machine from knoppix (or any live CD) (I'm using knoppix as an eg)
and as root

mkdir /mnt/a
mkdir /mnt/b

mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/a
mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/b

rsync -av /mnt/a/ /mnt/b

shutdown and remove the original disk from the machine
shuffle connectors so this is the first ATA disk and boot again

mkdir /mnt/a
mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/a

reinstall grub

grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/a /dev/sda
you might need --recheck too)

boot and run from your new disk. This is not a magic spell but rather 
systematic predictable steps, understand them and you will never need to learn 
them.

The reason for coping a not-live system is that your live disk system 
populates /proc /sys maybe /dev and you do not want to copy those dynamic 
entries. Also note the /s in the rsync arguments, they are important

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[SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-17 Thread Heracles
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Hi All,
I have a friend's HDD which has a Slackware server install. It is
essential that It stay intact but I need to clone it to another drive.
On the original drive the installer fixed the partition at 4 GB but I
wish to let it have a bit more space - say 20 GB.
Do I need to use dd or is there a simple gui way. I need to copy ALL the
files across.

Thanks
Heracles

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Re: [SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-17 Thread Henare Degan
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 01:34, Heracles herac...@iprimus.com.au wrote:
 Hi All,
 I have a friend's HDD which has a Slackware server install. It is
 essential that It stay intact but I need to clone it to another drive.
 On the original drive the installer fixed the partition at 4 GB but I
 wish to let it have a bit more space - say 20 GB.
 Do I need to use dd or is there a simple gui way. I need to copy ALL the
 files across.

 Thanks
 Heracles

I think you want Clonezilla: http://clonezilla.org/

Cheers,

Henare
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Re: [SLUG] Copying HDD

2010-01-17 Thread Chris Deigan
On 18/01/2010, at 11:34 PM, Heracles wrote:
 Do I need to use dd or is there a simple gui way. I need to copy ALL the
 files across.

cp (or rsync, depending on your circumstances) would work between filesystems. 
Just check the manpage for switches to preserve the file attributes.

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