Re: [SLUG] Distro on a CD (off the shelf, or off the burner)
>> My experience with live FS on CD distros is that they are fine for >> demoing and some exploration but are not suitable for serious work, > >I've seen a sysadmin move from one part of a site to another with a >livecd type of setup. He'd go to the other site, plop in his cd, boot >and do his serious work in the environment he liked (had X etc running) >and then pullt he CD out and leave the computer as it was before he >arrived. > >Worked amazingly well. By serious work I mean running the machine constantly off the CD. I have a credit card sized repair CD too, like many others. >But the HD may be formated in say.. vfat. you can create yourself a file >with dd, run mke2fs on it, loopback mount it, use it to your hearts >content, umount it, delete it, reboot and remove the cd. Sure, we are back to the use of HD again. The original poster wanted to set up a Linux only machine. As I said, if you have a HD and you want to run Linux only, why use the CD? -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Distro on a CD (off the shelf, or off the burner)
On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 11:48:33AM +1100, Ken Yap wrote: > >Mehmet's suggestion of LiveCD was great - I'll definitely be using this in > >the future... :) > > My experience with live FS on CD distros is that they are fine for > demoing and some exploration but are not suitable for serious work, I've seen a sysadmin move from one part of a site to another with a livecd type of setup. He'd go to the other site, plop in his cd, boot and do his serious work in the environment he liked (had X etc running) and then pullt he CD out and leave the computer as it was before he arrived. Worked amazingly well. > unless you put volatile data in RAM or HD. RAM is precious, and if you > had a HD in the first place... But the HD may be formated in say.. vfat. you can create yourself a file with dd, run mke2fs on it, loopback mount it, use it to your hearts content, umount it, delete it, reboot and remove the cd. -- CaT ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 'He had position, but I was determined to score.' -- Worf, DS9, Season 5: 'Let He Who Is Without Sin...' -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Distro on a CD (off the shelf, or off the burner)
>Mehmet's suggestion of LiveCD was great - I'll definitely be using this in >the future... :) My experience with live FS on CD distros is that they are fine for demoing and some exploration but are not suitable for serious work, unless you put volatile data in RAM or HD. RAM is precious, and if you had a HD in the first place... -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Distro on a CD (off the shelf, or off the burner)
> tom burkart wrote: > > Guys, NFS on a gateway - Please spare me! > > Please let me tell you about a site that will not allow telnet into the > trusted zone from the dmz but yet allows nfs from the trusted zone to the > dmz - Do I really have to continue? ;) Original idea marred by fun technical challenge for the hell of it. The reason I wanted to put so much on the little machine (which you simply do not do for a real gateway or firewall) was that the small business in question could only spare one machine... A wander in the warehouse found an old 486 (Coyote time!) so everything's back to sanity-land. Mehmet's suggestion of LiveCD was great - I'll definitely be using this in the future... :) - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Distro on a CD (off the shelf, or off the burner)
On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Jamie Honan wrote: > In this case, uou're probably looking at a hard drive or NFS. Guys, NFS on a gateway - Please spare me! Please let me tell you about a site that will not allow telnet into the trusted zone from the dmz but yet allows nfs from the trusted zone to the dmz - Do I really have to continue? tom. Consultant AUSSECPhone: 61 4 1768 2202 339 Blaxland Rd., Ryde NSW 2112 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Distro on a CD (off the shelf, or off the burner)
> I've got an old Pentium lying about that has no hard drive, and I'd like > to use it as a gateway machine, So far so good. I run coyote (from a floppy) with good vibes. > I'd like it to have a good stock of GNOME apps, > various text-processing utilities, web serving from remote filesystems, > etc. I think you're heading in a different direction here. This is where you want swap space, and faster access than what a CD provides. (Unless you have buckets of memory). In this case, uou're probably looking at a hard drive or NFS. Jamie -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Distro on a CD (off the shelf, or off the burner)
> Whilst my preference is for Debian, the more important points are the > apps > themselves and an easy method of updating the CD image (this can be done > on > another machine). Also, if there's something off-the-shelf that does this > already, why fart around? :) Check out Live CD, here the blurb on it: "Live CD is a project to create a CD that runs Linux. The CD is bootable, and runs Debian Linux without needing a hard drive. The scripts are pretty basic, and the setup has not been optimized for any particular application." url: http://freshmeat.net/projects/livecd/ url: http://www.ocslink.com/~blunier/ Looks like exaclty what your after. Let me know if you get it working. Mehmet Ozdemir - This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com - Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Distro on a CD (off the shelf, or off the burner)
Hi all, I've got an old Pentium lying about that has no hard drive, and I'd like to use it as a gateway machine, and do various other tasks as well. I found out that with a BIOS update, I could boot from the CD, so I'm wondering how to go about running the machine from it. Apart from the fairly static gateway duties (I could use a floppy to store a few configs I guess), I'd like it to have a good stock of GNOME apps, various text-processing utilities, web serving from remote filesystems, etc. I figure it's a fairly clean way of providing extra security. Hacked? Switch off, switch on. Meanwhile, update the CD image to stop 'em getting in again. Whilst my preference is for Debian, the more important points are the apps themselves and an easy method of updating the CD image (this can be done on another machine). Also, if there's something off-the-shelf that does this already, why fart around? :) I seem to recall Grahame wanting to do a similar thing - but with a more desktop oriented approach - for schools a while back. Did anything come of this? I guess that firstly, I'm looking for a method - the details (how to set up swap, what will break without extra care and attention, etc). Then I might be interested in seeing what's already on offer. Ideas or pointers? - Jeff -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- http://linux.conf.au/ -- Ye shall be cursed to fall in love so easily, and yet be so cold of heart as never to express it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://slug.org.au/lists/listinfo/slug
