Re: [SLUG] Domain Name Servers

2007-12-03 Thread mvanle2
> I have always thought that DNS servers for a domain may reside
> totally
> outside the domain.  i.e. server.main.domain has no dns server
> running
> but has DNS servers other.server.com and another.server.com act
> authoritatively for server.main.domain.
> 
> We have a server with very sensitive information and the boss does
> not
> want anything other than a web port open to the world.  My
> experience
> has always been that the server in question is at least the primary
> DNS.
> Is this possible or do we have to think again?

According to my Oreilly BIND 8.x book, "primary" and "slave" DNS servers are a 
misnomer. 

There're only "authoritative" and "non-authoritative" servers. And the 
distribution / updating of 
zone files between authoritative servers depend on the zone file's SOA serial 
number and how 
the "slave {...};" and "master {...};" directives are set up.

You don't need to set up a DNS server on your secured server. As long as people 
outside your 
network, or outside your web server can resolve to your web port and connect, 
then HTTP should 
handle the rest. You might need to essentially open port 53 and configure 
resolv.conf for DNS 
names resolution on the web server; which may be required for some 
anti-spoofing software, 
firewall tools etc. 

Alternatively you could set up an internal DNS server on a separate machine 
inside your network 
which can initiate a zone file transfer with external DNS servers hosting your 
domain. The internal 
DNS server could be the DNS server for the rest of your network.
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Re: [SLUG] Domain Name Servers

2007-12-03 Thread Rick Phillips
Jeremy,

> This seems to contradict your previous statement.  If you don't wish 
> this "server in question" with the sensitive information, to run DNS 
> services, why not set up the configuration that you already established 
> as probable, with the DNS hosted entirely by different servers?
> 
> I don't understand why the current configuration of some particular 
> server should rule out the possibility of a different configuration 
> being possible?
> 
> Perhaps I misunderstand.
> 
Ah, I think when I added a new sentence I messed up my meaning.
Sometimes an attempt at further clarification makes things a little less
clear.

I did mean server A is "served" by servers B & C in the naming stakes.

Thanks for the confirmation that it is possible.

Regards,

Rick

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Re: [SLUG] Domain Name Servers

2007-12-03 Thread Jeremy Portzer

Rick Phillips wrote:

I have always thought that DNS servers for a domain may reside totally
outside the domain.  i.e. server.main.domain has no dns server running
but has DNS servers other.server.com and another.server.com act
authoritatively for server.main.domain.


That is correct.


We have a server with very sensitive information and the boss does not
want anything other than a web port open to the world.


Okay, that is fine and fits in with your previous statement.

> My experience

has always been that the server in question is at least the primary DNS.


This seems to contradict your previous statement.  If you don't wish 
this "server in question" with the sensitive information, to run DNS 
services, why not set up the configuration that you already established 
as probable, with the DNS hosted entirely by different servers?


I don't understand why the current configuration of some particular 
server should rule out the possibility of a different configuration 
being possible?


Perhaps I misunderstand.

Thanks,
Jeremy
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[SLUG] Domain Name Servers

2007-12-03 Thread Rick Phillips
I have always thought that DNS servers for a domain may reside totally
outside the domain.  i.e. server.main.domain has no dns server running
but has DNS servers other.server.com and another.server.com act
authoritatively for server.main.domain.

We have a server with very sensitive information and the boss does not
want anything other than a web port open to the world.  My experience
has always been that the server in question is at least the primary DNS.
Is this possible or do we have to think again?

Rick Phillips

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