[SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread Ben Donohue

Hi Slugs,
well it's been so long since i've been in the business of
setup/delegating domains that i've forgotton!
I have the domain name. 
Where do I go to get a domain delegated?
Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread Brett Fenton

Depends what king of domain it is. com/net/org's are simple, com.au's through 
inww, net.au's through connect, org.au's are a pain.

brett

On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:15, you wrote:
 Hi Slugs,
 well it's been so long since i've been in the business of
 setup/delegating domains that i've forgotton!
 I have the domain name.
 Where do I go to get a domain delegated?
 Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread Brett Fenton

http://aunic.net/dd.html

Then just hope Robert Elz is kind to you.

On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:37, you wrote:
 Hi Brett,
 Oh dear...
 it's an org.au
 any clues?
 Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread Rick Welykochy

Ben Donohue wrote:

 Oh dear...
 it's an org.au
 any clues?

I assume the domain has been registered. Delegation involves getting someone with
a name server on the Internet to become the authority for the domain and actually
hosting it. Any ISP will do this for you. Once the domain is hosted, the ISP
(or whomever) can setup A records in the domain's zone file to point to any
IP addresses of your chosing.  The cost can vary from free (beer) if you find
a friend with a name server on the net, to maybe $100 to $150/yr for an ISP.

The process is completed when the organisation hosting your domain sees that
it is delegated at the .org.au end of things, i.e. your domain ultimately has
to have referant in the 2LD .ORG.AU.

I suppose you could also look into setting up your own domain name servers
(you should provide two separate servers on separate nets) and become the
authority for the domain.

HTH

-rickw





 Brett Fenton wrote:
 
  Depends what king of domain it is. com/net/org's are simple, com.au's through
  inww, net.au's through connect, org.au's are a pain.
 
  brett
 
  On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:15, you wrote:
   Hi Slugs,
   well it's been so long since i've been in the business of
   setup/delegating domains that i've forgotton!
   I have the domain name.
   Where do I go to get a domain delegated?
   Ben
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Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread Rich Buggy

 well it's been so long since i've been in the business of
 setup/delegating domains that i've forgotton!
 I have the domain name.
 Where do I go to get a domain delegated?

  The company you registered it with. How you do it depends on your domain
registrar. Most will have a form you can fill out that allows you to change
the name servers. Simply set up and test your DNS then change the name
server entries to point to the new server.

 Rich



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Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread Adam Kennedy

I'll add a note to this one.

Robert Elz ( at least when I was dealings with .org.au ) had two tracks.

Fast Track.
Absolutely everything in your request is letter perfect, correct, and valid.
A few weeks turnaround.

Slow Track.
If an request has problems, it goes on the problem pile, to be dealt with a
few times a year ( randomly between 1 - 6 months ).

So it is a very good idea to make sure requests are very correct when
dealing with .org.au.

Of course, it might have changed since then... Brett, how are NR's dealings
with him of late? Wasn't larry going to offer to run .org.au for free at
some point?

Adam

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 http://aunic.net/dd.html

 Then just hope Robert Elz is kind to you.

 On Wed, 9 Jan 2002 22:37, you wrote:
  Hi Brett,
  Oh dear...
  it's an org.au
  any clues?
  Ben
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RE: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread Brett Fenton

Not that this really gives much more info but it does summarize the state of
play.

http://icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=508mode=threadorder=0

auDA want to open tender for the org.au registry. Elz is standing his
ground. Lot's of politics etc etc.

Having said that we don't register org.au's anymore, it's just in the too
hard basket, but delegations have seemed to imporoved of late.

Brett

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 Of course, it might have changed since then... Brett, how are
 NR's dealings
 with him of late? Wasn't larry going to offer to run .org.au for free at
 some point?

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Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread John Ferlito

On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 01:16:23AM +1100, Adam Kennedy wrote:
 Fast Track.
 Absolutely everything in your request is letter perfect, correct, and valid.
 A few weeks turnaround.

That's still the case for delegations, I've done a couple in the last
few months. Basically you need to ensure that everything is exactly
correct. Bothe DNS servers have the same SOA etc etc. Then simply fill
in the form on the AUNIC webpage and the request is usually turned
around in a week or so. There's a status page there somewhere as well
that tells you up to what date requests have been completed.

Should be the same deal with registrations since the whois part is
handled by aunic and simply the delegation is done with Elz, last one I
did got knocked back in under a week, basicaly the bussiness already had
an org.au they where just told to ditch the current one first.

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Re: [SLUG] Domain delegation (slightly OT)

2002-01-09 Thread Michael Lake

Adam Kennedy wrote:
 I'll add a note to this one.
 Robert Elz ( at least when I was dealings with .org.au ) had two tracks.
 Fast Track.
 Absolutely everything in your request is letter perfect, correct, and valid.
 A few weeks turnaround.
 Slow Track.
 If an request has problems, it goes on the problem pile, to be dealt with a
 few times a year ( randomly between 1 - 6 months ).
 
 So it is a very good idea to make sure requests are very correct when
 dealing with .org.au.

I will just give a plug for Robert Elz. I have had two org.au's done
through
him. Yes I did take the time to make sure all information was supplied.
For one
domain the turn around time was few days and for the last one, November
last year,
I had an email from him saying it had been accepted and processed the
next morning. 
Thats service from an unpaid volunteer who does a great job.

It's a far cry from my own .com.au which was done though company in a
city 
down south and took several weeks. They started sending me a few renewal 
notices `suggesting' to payup for my domain last October when it's not
due 
till April this year too. That pisses me off.

So Elz gets my vote, if had one :-)

Mike
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