Re: [SLUG] Graphical Bootup - Was: VMWare and LILO configuration

2001-01-24 Thread John Ryland


On Thursday 25 January 2001 09:52, Craige McWhirter wrote:
> There is also the "Linux Progress Patch":
>
> http://lpp.freelords.org/
>
> If only the Debian theme was better...

Yeah someone mentioned this one yesterday and I tried it out last night at 
home. I love it. I had a look at the themeing stuff and they haven't solved 
the problem of needing to recompile the kernel to switch themes so I'm going 
to have a hack at that.

That aurora project looks interesting too. I'll have to try it out too.

John


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Re: [SLUG] Graphical Bootup - Was: VMWare and LILO configuration

2001-01-24 Thread Craige McWhirter

There is also the "Linux Progress Patch":

http://lpp.freelords.org/

If only the Debian theme was better...

On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 10:48:32 Tom Massey wrote:
> John Ryland wrote:
> 
> > I would like to work on making the kernel bootup graphically, not
> just the
> > bootloader. I know it's so Windows like, but I want to do it even
> better, you
> > know how when KDE2, GNOME and BeOS all start up they have those
> icons that
> > light up as it goes through the startup process, well something like
> that
> > until xdm or a login prompt is reached.
> 
> You might like to look at Aurora 
> which does something like this.
> 
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Re: [SLUG] Graphical Bootup - Was: VMWare and LILO configuration

2001-01-24 Thread Tom Massey

John Ryland wrote:

> I would like to work on making the kernel bootup graphically, not just the
> bootloader. I know it's so Windows like, but I want to do it even better, you
> know how when KDE2, GNOME and BeOS all start up they have those icons that
> light up as it goes through the startup process, well something like that
> until xdm or a login prompt is reached.

You might like to look at Aurora 
which does something like this.


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Re: [SLUG] Graphical Bootup - Was: VMWare and LILO configuration

2001-01-23 Thread John Ryland


On Wednesday 24 January 2001 16:44, Crossfire wrote:
> Two projects/efforts already are/are-trying-to do this.
>
> 1) LPP - Linux Project Patch.  Kernel Patches to give a graphics boot
> screen & progress bar during a boot using fbdev.

Cool. I've found it through freshmeat and it looks excellent
Also they have themes so I'll have to look at how they solved the problem of 
changing the image without recompiling the kernel (if you can infact do that)

> 2) Rapture - (No source release yet - I'm still hacking on it).  System to
> be run early in init to hide the boot messages, and give you pretty little
> boot icons as the system comes up.  also uses fbdev.

Also sounds cool. Maybe it's something that should work in combination with 
LPP.

First thing I'm doing when I get home is to put GAG and LPP on my box :)

John


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Re: [SLUG] Graphical Bootup - Was: VMWare and LILO configuration

2001-01-23 Thread Greg Wright



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On 24/01/01 at 16:43 John Ryland wrote:

>On Wednesday 24 January 2001 15:33, Crossfire wrote:
>
>> > > What's the one RedHat 7.0 uses?
>>
>> No, its still LILO, but with evil evil graphical boot menu hacks!
NO!
>
>Looks ugly
>I'm sure they could have done better.
>
>I would like to work on making the kernel bootup graphically, not just the

>bootloader. I know it's so Windows like, but I want to do it even better,

A simple display of a png or something for those not interested in the boot
sequence, probably is more at home on Corel Linux than anywhere else

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Re: [SLUG] Graphical Bootup - Was: VMWare and LILO configuration

2001-01-23 Thread Crossfire

Two projects/efforts already are/are-trying-to do this.

1) LPP - Linux Project Patch.  Kernel Patches to give a graphics boot screen
& progress bar during a boot using fbdev.

2) Rapture - (No source release yet - I'm still hacking on it).  System to
be run early in init to hide the boot messages, and give you pretty little
boot icons as the system comes up.  also uses fbdev.



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>
> On Wednesday 24 January 2001 15:33, Crossfire wrote:
>
> > > > What's the one RedHat 7.0 uses?
> >
> > No, its still LILO, but with evil evil graphical boot menu hacks!
NO!
>
> Looks ugly
> I'm sure they could have done better.
>
> I would like to work on making the kernel bootup graphically, not just the
> bootloader. I know it's so Windows like, but I want to do it even better,
you
> know how when KDE2, GNOME and BeOS all start up they have those icons that
> light up as it goes through the startup process, well something like that
> until xdm or a login prompt is reached.
>
> I've already had a go at this and managed to hack the kernel to display a
> full-screen image when it starts instead of a tiny penguin in the corner,
and
> also surpress the printks (not highly recommended :), but it sucks and is
a
> trivial hack. Really needs to be like Windows where if you hit ESC then
you
> see the messages, or even better if it was like Quake where it smoothly
> scrolls down the messages or something like that.
>
> I've thought about how to have those icons light up as the initialisiation
> proceeds. Just write a user-space program to do it in the init scripts.
Could
> even have some kind of cool animation in the same way.
>
> One major problem I can't get around however, is that to change the
initial
> image you have to recompile the kernel. I really want to fix that and
can't
> think of a nice clean way of doing it. Any suggestions?
>
> John
>
>
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[SLUG] Graphical Bootup - Was: VMWare and LILO configuration

2001-01-23 Thread John Ryland


On Wednesday 24 January 2001 15:33, Crossfire wrote:

> > > What's the one RedHat 7.0 uses?
>
> No, its still LILO, but with evil evil graphical boot menu hacks! NO!

Looks ugly
I'm sure they could have done better.

I would like to work on making the kernel bootup graphically, not just the 
bootloader. I know it's so Windows like, but I want to do it even better, you 
know how when KDE2, GNOME and BeOS all start up they have those icons that 
light up as it goes through the startup process, well something like that 
until xdm or a login prompt is reached.

I've already had a go at this and managed to hack the kernel to display a 
full-screen image when it starts instead of a tiny penguin in the corner, and 
also surpress the printks (not highly recommended :), but it sucks and is a 
trivial hack. Really needs to be like Windows where if you hit ESC then you 
see the messages, or even better if it was like Quake where it smoothly 
scrolls down the messages or something like that.

I've thought about how to have those icons light up as the initialisiation 
proceeds. Just write a user-space program to do it in the init scripts. Could 
even have some kind of cool animation in the same way.

One major problem I can't get around however, is that to change the initial 
image you have to recompile the kernel. I really want to fix that and can't 
think of a nice clean way of doing it. Any suggestions?

John


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