Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-09 Thread David Kempe
I have seen recently a few exploits against the linux kernel - even 2.4.18
was vulnernable. SSH is not as secure as it could be - best to limit where
you can connect to it from via iptables or something like that - and of
course keep it up to date. Also make sure there are no scripts on your
websites that might cause problems - also seen some people with fairly
intelligent scanners looking for things like that.

dave

- Original Message -
From: "Dan Banyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I never surfed the net as rootand thought I had the box locked down -
> only open ports were the normal ones (80, 21, 22) etc.  I have no idea how
> they got in but maybe it was through SSH (I might have a older version
that
> could be hacked).  There was no telnet or anything like that.


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Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-08 Thread scott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09-07-2003 12:37:29 PM:

> Hi,
> 
> They obviously set things so I could not reboot or find out what is 
going
> on.  The first thing I discovered was that they had change the 
index.html
> file on the web server - I thought something had gone astray so rebooted 
and
> that is when it all started.
> 
> I never surfed the net as rootand thought I had the box locked down 
-
> only open ports were the normal ones (80, 21, 22) etc.  I have no idea 
how
> they got in but maybe it was through SSH (I might have a older version 
that
> could be hacked).  There was no telnet or anything like that.
> 
I would have thought the more likely culprit would either be your 
webserver, or ftp server.
Check the security advisories released after the versions you are running.

Cheers,

Scott
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Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-08 Thread Dan Banyard
Hi,

They obviously set things so I could not reboot or find out what is going
on.  The first thing I discovered was that they had change the index.html
file on the web server - I thought something had gone astray so rebooted and
that is when it all started.

I never surfed the net as rootand thought I had the box locked down -
only open ports were the normal ones (80, 21, 22) etc.  I have no idea how
they got in but maybe it was through SSH (I might have a older version that
could be hacked).  There was no telnet or anything like that.

I still can't believe it

Dan
- Original Message -
From: "Brian Robson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "SLUG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup


> Hi Dan,
>
> Wow, that's amazing that it happened so quickly, and a very annoying hack,
> with symptoms the same as a failure to boot correctly.  It would have been
> worse if you did not find out.
>
> Also, did you surf the net as "root"???
>
> Brian
> 
>
> At 11:45 AM 9/07/03 +1000, you wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Not sure if this helps anyone but so far I have found:
> >
> >/var/log/message -> /dev/null
> >/var/log/wtmp -> /dev/null
> >
> >They also created an HTML page called services.html and in it:
> >
> >"YOU WERE HACKED!!!Welcome to ParadoX's Web`s Page"
> >
> >there is also a whole load of other crap (some in Spanish/French or
similar)
> >
> >I am just about to re-install the OS
> >
> >dan
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Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-08 Thread Brian Robson
Hi Dan,

Wow, that's amazing that it happened so quickly, and a very annoying hack,
with symptoms the same as a failure to boot correctly.  It would have been
worse if you did not find out.

Also, did you surf the net as "root"???

Brian


At 11:45 AM 9/07/03 +1000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Not sure if this helps anyone but so far I have found:
>
>/var/log/message -> /dev/null
>/var/log/wtmp -> /dev/null
>
>They also created an HTML page called services.html and in it:
>
>"YOU WERE HACKED!!!Welcome to ParadoX's Web`s Page"
>
>there is also a whole load of other crap (some in Spanish/French or similar)
>
>I am just about to re-install the OS
>
>dan

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Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-08 Thread Dan Banyard
Hi,

Not sure if this helps anyone but so far I have found:

/var/log/message -> /dev/null
/var/log/wtmp -> /dev/null

They also created an HTML page called services.html and in it:

"YOU WERE HACKED!!!Welcome to ParadoX's Web`s Page"

there is also a whole load of other crap (some in Spanish/French or similar)

I am just about to re-install the OS

dan
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From: "Michael Lake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup


> Dan Banyard wrote:
> > Just found the problem - it seems some nice individual has hacked into
the
> > machine.  I found they have added HTML files announcing this fact.  This
> > explains the strange behaviour.  So who knows what they have done to the
> > system.
>
> Thats quite nice of them. They are polite enough to tell you rather than
> leaving you in the dark and having back doors and things :-) What did
> they say in the HTML?
>
> Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-08 Thread Michael Lake
Dan Banyard wrote:
> Just found the problem - it seems some nice individual has hacked into the
> machine.  I found they have added HTML files announcing this fact.  This
> explains the strange behaviour.  So who knows what they have done to the
> system.

Thats quite nice of them. They are polite enough to tell you rather than 
leaving you in the dark and having back doors and things :-) What did 
they say in the HTML?

Mike
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Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-08 Thread Dan Banyard
Thanks for your help.

Just found the problem - it seems some nice individual has hacked into the
machine.  I found they have added HTML files announcing this fact.  This
explains the strange behaviour.  So who knows what they have done to the
system.

Looks like a day of re-installing the whole system.

Thanks very much to those hackers.

Dan

- Original Message -
From: "Bret Comstock Waldow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Dan Banyard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup


> Hi,
>
> You say "it stops" but really you need to say what it does - you're
> assuming it stops.  For instance, it might switch to a video mode that
> doesn't show you the prompt you expect and blithely waits for you to
> login as you always have.
>
> What do you see up until "it stops", what do you see when "it stops",
> and has it ever worked before?  Is this a change in a working system, or
> an install that didn't complete successfully?
>
> If it was working, what did you attempt last (that changed something so
> the outcome is different now)?
>
> Cheers,
> Bret
>
>
> On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 18:33, Dan Banyard wrote:
> >  Hi,
> >
> > I have a linux box which is hanging when it boots up.  At this stage I
am
> > not as to why this has happened (hardware or software) but I am trying
to
> > work out what to do.  I watch it go through the boot sequence and when
it
> > gets to the point where should give me a login prompt is just stops.
> >
> > So far I have managed to restart the box in rescue mode (i am using SuSE
> > 7.2) and can successfully mount the hard disk.  I am really trying to
find
> > information on what exactly is going wrong.  I have been looking through
the
> > /var/log files and nothing jumps out.  I realise there could be a
million
> > things going wrong but can anyone think of where I can look for clues?
Does
> > anyone know of anyone who offers a good linux doctor type service?
> >
> > thanks in advance
> >
> > dan
> >
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Re: [SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-08 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
Hi,

You say "it stops" but really you need to say what it does - you're
assuming it stops.  For instance, it might switch to a video mode that
doesn't show you the prompt you expect and blithely waits for you to
login as you always have.

What do you see up until "it stops", what do you see when "it stops",
and has it ever worked before?  Is this a change in a working system, or
an install that didn't complete successfully?

If it was working, what did you attempt last (that changed something so
the outcome is different now)?

Cheers,
Bret


On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 18:33, Dan Banyard wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
> I have a linux box which is hanging when it boots up.  At this stage I am
> not as to why this has happened (hardware or software) but I am trying to
> work out what to do.  I watch it go through the boot sequence and when it
> gets to the point where should give me a login prompt is just stops.
> 
> So far I have managed to restart the box in rescue mode (i am using SuSE
> 7.2) and can successfully mount the hard disk.  I am really trying to find
> information on what exactly is going wrong.  I have been looking through the
> /var/log files and nothing jumps out.  I realise there could be a million
> things going wrong but can anyone think of where I can look for clues?  Does
> anyone know of anyone who offers a good linux doctor type service?
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> dan
> 
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[SLUG] Linux box hanging on startup

2003-07-08 Thread Dan Banyard
Hi,

I have a linux box which is hanging when it boots up.  At this stage I am
not as to why this has happened (hardware or software) but I am trying to
work out what to do.  I watch it go through the boot sequence and when it
gets to the point where should give me a login prompt is just stops.

So far I have managed to restart the box in rescue mode (i am using SuSE
7.2) and can successfully mount the hard disk.  I am really trying to find
information on what exactly is going wrong.  I have been looking through the
/var/log files and nothing jumps out.  I realise there could be a million
things going wrong but can anyone think of where I can look for clues?  Does
anyone know of anyone who offers a good linux doctor type service?

thanks in advance

dan




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