Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-04 Thread Broun, Bevan
on Sat, Jul 03, 2004 at 12:46:52PM +1000, Terry Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The subject is half the story. Basically I want a application that
 allows me to store, index and search email messages. Lets say something
 that would handle up to 5gb.
 
 Basically, my netscape messages are now 1.5Gb and neither Mozilla or
 Thunderbird can touch this lot. Sadly, they all barf on the size/number
 of folders/etc.

I have always found mutt to be extreemly good at handling large number of
messages.

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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Terry Collins

 Basically, my netscape messages are now 1.5Gb and neither Mozilla or
 Thunderbird can touch this lot. Sadly, they all barf on the size/number of
 folders/etc.

Evolution should crank through that number of messages without any major
problems.

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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread Terry Collins
Jeff Waugh wrote:
 
 quote who=Terry Collins
 
  Basically, my netscape messages are now 1.5Gb and neither Mozilla or
  Thunderbird can touch this lot. Sadly, they all barf on the size/number of
  folders/etc.
 
 Evolution should crank through that number of messages without any major
 problems.

Unfortunately, Evolution doesn't get to first base for some reason. It
keeps barfing on the first folder. No messages. just hangs

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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread Rick Welykochy
Terry Collins wrote:
Jeff Waugh wrote:
quote who=Terry Collins
Basically, my netscape messages are now 1.5Gb and neither Mozilla or
Thunderbird can touch this lot. Sadly, they all barf on the size/number of
folders/etc.
Evolution should crank through that number of messages without any major
problems.

Unfortunately, Evolution doesn't get to first base for some reason. It
keeps barfing on the first folder. No messages. just hangs
If every mail program seems to barf, have you thought of the possibility
that you have a corrupt message in the folder? I have seen corrupt messages totally
screw the head of mail readers.
Just a thought.
cheers
rickw

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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread Terry Collins
Rick Welykochy wrote:

...snip.

  Unfortunately, Evolution doesn't get to first base for some reason. It
  keeps barfing on the first folder. No messages. just hangs

Okay, the hanging is caused by asking it to import two different things
(say mail and settingss )at the same time. So I guess that it is a bug
(allowing you to select two things).
 
 If every mail program seems to barf, have you thought of the possibility
 that you have a corrupt message in the folder? I have seen corrupt messages totally
 screw the head of mail readers.

{:-) Er no, because Nutscape doesn't have any trouble.

Brain remembered above after leaving it for a while (I have been playing
with Evolution for a while and SWMBO is now using it). Will see what
happens overnight (other than duplicating mail space {:-(.

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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread Ken Foskey
On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 00:05, Terry Collins wrote:

 Okay, the hanging is caused by asking it to import two different things
 (say mail and settingss )at the same time. So I guess that it is a bug
 (allowing you to select two things).

I can reliably hang Evolution by deleting two mails quickly with a
machine under load.  The concurrency stuff is not done very well, I find
that it is better to wait out operations than push it.  I did raise a
bug report on it.

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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread Terry Collins
Terry Collins wrote:

 Brain remembered above after leaving it for a while (I have been playing
 with Evolution for a while and SWMBO is now using it). Will see what
 happens overnight (other than duplicating mail space {:-(.

Okay, found out again why I didn't switch to Evolution.
It eventually dies with the error message too many open files part way
through importing the netscape messages. So it has a similar limitation
to Mozilla.

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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread James Gregory
On Sun, 2004-07-04 at 01:47 +1000, Terry Collins wrote:
 Terry Collins wrote:
 
  Brain remembered above after leaving it for a while (I have been playing
  with Evolution for a while and SWMBO is now using it). Will see what
  happens overnight (other than duplicating mail space {:-(.
 
 Okay, found out again why I didn't switch to Evolution.
 It eventually dies with the error message too many open files part way
 through importing the netscape messages. So it has a similar limitation
 to Mozilla.

If you're dealing with a large number of messages, you're probably
better off using an IMAP server that uses Maildirs. Having done that
you'll be able to use any mail client you like, including Evolution,
which does an awesome job of searching imap mailboxes.

I recommend Courier as an IMAP server, though there's a bunch of them
around now. I hear that dovecot is cool too.

Which version of evolution are you running? Incidently, there's a simple
migration path for your existing mailboxes -- setup your imap server and
setup your existing mail client to talk to it. Then just drag the
messages accross.

HTH,

James.
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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread Bruce Badger
Terry,

One option might be for you to look at an IMAP server running on your
local box, and have your mail tool point at that.

I use Cyrus which works well for me.  As it happens, I run Cyrus on a
server in the UK, but running locally would just make it faster.

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Re: [SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-03 Thread Terry Collins
James Gregory wrote:

...snip

  Okay, found out again why I didn't switch to Evolution.
  It eventually dies with the error message too many open files part way
  through importing the netscape messages. So it has a similar limitation
  to Mozilla.
 
 If you're dealing with a large number of messages, you're probably
 better off using an IMAP server that uses Maildirs.

Thanks for the reminder. Brain now remembers why it was researching IMAP
before and why I build up another boxen (to use as an IMAP server -
duh!). Too many other projects have overflowed the stack.

OT - but does anyone know how to give a clueby to someone on sound
recording for making DVD videos. A simple 5 minute visit to show an
external video conversion boxen turned into a rather numbing morning
trying to get through to someone that sound isn't that hard and you
don't need to buy a whole pile of boxen (and why the fsck did you spend
money on a hand held cassette when it won't do what you want).
Thankfully it isn't my money {:-), but it is still hard watching friends
waste money on unneccessay crap that doesn't do the job. Less hard is
when they I was told by so and so and you have politely say explain
why it is,  yet again, totally inappropriate, rather than say what
would that idiot know and how much did he make from you. Sigh!. 


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[SLUG] Need to replace htdig for personal use.

2004-07-02 Thread Terry Collins
The subject is half the story. Basically I want a application that
allows me to store, index and search email messages. Lets say something
that would handle up to 5gb.

Basically, my netscape messages are now 1.5Gb and neither Mozilla or
Thunderbird can touch this lot. Sadly, they all barf on the size/number
of folders/etc.

Until now for searching, I have passed an mbox file from Netscape
(monthly messages) through a process into Htdig, but I don't really want
to run apache and htdig on my personal PC and I no longer see much
benefit of providing yet another copy of various lists on my webserver
(as I did in the past).

So, does anyone have any suggestion on replacement solutions?

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