Re: [SLUG] Pls help newbie configure sources.list

2001-03-15 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, Jeff Waugh said:
quote who="Ralph Lett"

 deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free

Best to use http, as it's faster. :)

I don't grok that.  I always use the ftp servers, on principle:  .debs
are files, hence the use of File-tp, not HyperText-tp.

#deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

Except for this one, cos they don't provide ftp, and the http requests
*always* timeout.

Another one (which alternates with mirror.aarnet for title of least
likely to keep the mirror up to date :) is:

# UWA's mirror
#deb http://ftp.wa.au.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb http://ftp.wa.au.debian.org/debian-non-US/ unstable/non-US main
contrib non-free

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Re: [SLUG] Pls help newbie configure sources.list

2001-03-15 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, James Wilkinson said:
#deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free

Except for this one, cos they don't provide ftp, and the http requests
*always* timeout.

What I meant was:  As Debian don't provide FTP access to the security
repository, I'm forced to use HTTP for it... which I hate, because it's
always timing-out for the update... *especially* for larger packages
like glibc that tend to appear frequently in security. :(

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Re: [SLUG] Pls help newbie configure sources.list

2001-03-15 Thread David Kempe

 I don't grok that.  I always use the ftp servers, on principle:  .debs
 are files, hence the use of File-tp, not HyperText-tp.

If this was the case you would never send Complex (no code!!!) emails for 
fear of breakin Simple Mail Transport Protocol.
and since when *.html not a file?


:-)

dave


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Re: [SLUG] Pls help newbie configure sources.list

2001-03-15 Thread James Wilkinson

This one time, at band camp, David Kempe said:
 I don't grok that.  I always use the ftp servers, on principle:  .debs
 are files, hence the use of File-tp, not HyperText-tp.

If this was the case you would never send Complex (no code!!!) emails for 
fear of breakin Simple Mail Transport Protocol.
and since when *.html not a file?

Pfft, details :)

Me, I'm a standards kinda guy, and I like for people to not go doing
dumb things that are against standards (like HTML mail, using http for
file transfer, closed extensions to kerberos, to name a few).

Gah... why do I always go off topic like this?  I think I need sleep.

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Re: [SLUG] Pls help newbie configure sources.list

2001-03-15 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who="James Wilkinson"

 Best to use http, as it's faster. :)
 
 I don't grok that.  I always use the ftp servers, on principle:  .debs
 are files, hence the use of File-tp, not HyperText-tp.

First off, with FTP you have to go through the login steps. On a fast host
(ie. not my crappy 56k link), you can get that stream of "not a new package
list" results very quickly with HTTP, but you'll be waiting around for the
anonymous logins with FTP. Add to that the efficiencies of HTTP/1.1, and
you're doing much better than FTP.

 Surely someone writing documentation is familiar with the custom of
 actually reading it?
   -- Jeff Waugh, SLUG mailing list

GAR.

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] Pls help newbie configure sources.list

2001-03-14 Thread Jeff Waugh

quote who="Ralph Lett"

 deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free

Best to use http, as it's faster. :) Here's my list (commented, as I use
unstable from the US servers):

# Debian AARNet
#deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
#deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian stable main contrib non-free
#deb http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian stable main contrib non-free
#deb-src http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian-non-US stable/non-US main contrib non-free

Note the sourceline for the security releases server in the US, and also the
"stable/non-US" part of the non-US lines. :)

- Jeff


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Re: [SLUG] Pls help newbie configure sources.list

2001-03-13 Thread Peter Hardy

On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 04:11:53PM +1100, Ralph Lett wrote:
*snip*
 # Debian au
 deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free
 deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian-non-US stable main contrib
 non-free
 deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian stable main contrib non-free
 deb-src ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debain-non-US stable main contrib
 non-free

The non-US archives are in a different place.  Those lines should look like:
deb ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/pub/debian stable/non-US main contrib non-free

Cheers,
Peter

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