Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-23 Thread Christopher Booth
Sylpheed ?
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Mahogany ?
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There are probably more
Regards
Chris
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From: Edwin Humphries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders


David,
If you're using Outlook or OE, then try another client. In setting up
our Dovecot IMAP system, we early on dispensed with MS clients (we
run XP and 2K) - I suspect their implementation of IMAP is purely
suited for MS servers. I have used Pegasus and Eudora with varying
success, and Thunderbird with somewhat less success - but it still
works.
The problems are:
Pegasus (my current client):
1.  Doesn't support new mail folder filtering on the IMAP new mail
   folder; however they can be set up as a general rule set applied to
   the folder whenever the folder is opened.
2.  Doesn't automatically update the new mail folder with new mail if
   in preview mode. Works OK outside preview mode.
3.  Doesn't support (at least with Dovecot) creation of folders in
   which you can place folders. Folders are created with -rw--- 
   permissions, instead of drwx--.

Eudora:
1.  Not especially stable
2.  Doesn't support asking where to save sent mail (this is a unique
   Pegasus feature, i think - and saves much time)
Thunderbird:
1.  Very poor folder support
2.  No way to update folder list if you use another method of creating
   them.
Pity there's no REALLY good IMAP mail client.
Hope this helps.
On 23 Mar 2005 at 10:42, David Fisher wrote:
quote who=David Fisher
 I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on
 Debian sarge.  You may have a problem here, because the last time I
looked
 (IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders.

 Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could
 prove me wrong.

Judging from the wiki documentation, shared folders are in the 1.0tests
dovecot series.
http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders
J.
Thanks, Jan.  I just hope it makes its way into the stable release before
the guys i'm doing it for discover the concept.
On a more immediate note,  I am have huge problems getting a Windows XP
box to authenticate to a dovecot server I have set up.  I get 10061 
errors
no matter what authentication method I try to use.  Linux clients and
Windows 98 works fine (using SSL/TLS).  Even got a Windows 2000 box
talking to it.  Is there some gotcha in XP I'm (not being a Windows
person) not aware of?

Cluesticks, anyone?
David x22707
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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-22 Thread Jan Schmidt
quote who=David Fisher

 I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on 
 Debian sarge.  You may have a problem here, because the last time I looked 
 (IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders.
 
 Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could 
 prove me wrong.
 

Judging from the wiki documentation, shared folders are in the 1.0tests
dovecot series.

http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders

J.
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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-22 Thread Edwin Humphries
Jan,

Thanks for this. Looks like 1.0 will solve our issues. Waiting ...

On 23 Mar 2005 at 10:26, Jan Schmidt wrote:

 quote who=David Fisher
 
  I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on 
  Debian sarge.  You may have a problem here, because the last time I looked 
  (IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders.
  
  Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could 
  prove me wrong.
  
 
 Judging from the wiki documentation, shared folders are in the 1.0tests
 dovecot series.
 
 http://wiki.dovecot.org/SharedFolders
 
 J.
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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-22 Thread David Fisher
Thanks very much for that Edwin, but these guys are already using Eudora 
(which doesn't work on this machine, but does on others) and I tried 
Thunderbird (which gave the same problem).  There is one OE client on the 
network I have yet to set up (the horror...)

I'm really inclined to think it's an issue with this specific box.  You'd 
think the problem would be more widely reported if it was systematic.

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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-21 Thread Grant Parnell
On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Edwin Humphries wrote:

 We've been using Dovecot (on FC2) for a while as our IMAP server. But 
 now we need to evolve to sharing some folders.
 
 We need to share some folders with one set of users, others with 
 another set of users (overlapping wit the first set), and keep some 
 folders as private.
 
 How do we do this?

For it to work reliably and scalably I'd recommend setting up Cyrus-imapd. 
It's a bit of a learning curve and you have to do some migration but it 
really does offer sharing of a mailbox simultaneously among 2 or more 
users. Took a bit of fiddling but I have a half migrated setup. That is I 
have sendmail delivering to plain old mbox in /var/spool/mail (using local 
pine clients) and on the same server delivering to some cyrus mailboxes. I 
did this by creating an /etc/mail/mailertable entry for 
cyrus.in.emusys.com.au and using /etc/aliases to redirect some mail to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

My intention is to use imap folders to store emails related to orders for 
EverythingLinux so that for a given order we can view all correspodence 
that's via fax or email - we can chose to use an email client to view just 
the email portion and I found squirrelmail suited to my task of browsing 
folders.

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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-20 Thread David Fisher
I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on 
Debian sarge.  You may have a problem here, because the last time I looked 
(IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders.

Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could 
prove me wrong.

David x22707
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We've been using Dovecot (on FC2) for a while as our IMAP server. But 
now we need to evolve to sharing some folders.

We need to share some folders with one set of users, others with 
another set of users (overlapping wit the first set), and keep some 
folders as private.

How do we do this?

Regards,
Edwin Humphries
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Re: [SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-20 Thread Tony Green
On 21/03/2005, at 11:10 AM, David Fisher wrote:
I'm setting up a couple of imap servers using dovecot myself, but on
Debian sarge.  You may have a problem here, because the last time I 
looked
(IIRC) dovecot does not yet support shared folders.

Having said that I would be delighted for both of us if someone could
prove me wrong.
I just did a quick test on my courier imap setup.  You can symlink imap 
directories, though I can't give assurances of how well it works.

Perhaps it may be worth looking at if you really need it and can't find 
any other way.

TG
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[SLUG] Sharing IMAP Folders

2005-03-19 Thread Edwin Humphries
We've been using Dovecot (on FC2) for a while as our IMAP server. But 
now we need to evolve to sharing some folders.

We need to share some folders with one set of users, others with 
another set of users (overlapping wit the first set), and keep some 
folders as private.

How do we do this?

Regards,
Edwin Humphries
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