Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Mary Gardiner wrote: On Wed, Dec 01, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote: Actually scratch that, it loads up https://ibank.stgeorge.com.au/html/redirect.asp for me as a blank page no matter what I do (popup blocking OFF) That nearly always happens to me too (using Mozilla, but with user agent set to IE). However re-selecting the URL and pressing Enter then produces the login screen and after that all goes well. Hope that helps John -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: Actually I did have a bit of trouble getting Java to work with Firefox, eventually I ended up compiling my own Java JDK, and you then need to simlink the correct Java plugin into the Firefox plugin folder... there are directions somewhere on the web, a search on Google should find them. Not exactly the most user friendly install. Sun should harry up and get it's act together. I have the latest java plugins in Firefox 1.0 (on SuSE 9,1) and just used the install program in the tarball. No dramas at all. Works fine. Stay well and happy Heracles -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
That's just the thing... "some" java applets also worked for me before, but not all. If I remember correctly, there is some sort of issue with Mozilla based browsers, Java and Motif. If I remember correctly, Motif and the Java plugin have to be compiled using the same gcc and Mozilla browsers, including Firefox use the Motif library. I don't know if this is related to St George in particular, I was also at the time trying to solve another Java problem I was having (with Eclipse). The fact that it works now may be a by product of everything else I have done. Unfortunately I have a very non-standard setup on my very non-standard laptop. In any case, just symlinking the java plugin even in Epiphany may not be enough, you may have to recompile it. Marek Wawrzyczny On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:52, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > > Actually I did have a bit of trouble getting Java to work with Firefox, > > eventually I ended up compiling my own Java JDK, and you then need to > > simlink the correct Java plugin into the Firefox plugin folder... there > > are directions somewhere on the web, a search on Google should find them. > > Thanks, Java works under Firefox, I need to figure out where to make the > symlink for Epiphany. > > -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > Actually I did have a bit of trouble getting Java to work with Firefox, > eventually I ended up compiling my own Java JDK, and you then need to simlink > the correct Java plugin into the Firefox plugin folder... there are > directions somewhere on the web, a search on Google should find them. Thanks, Java works under Firefox, I need to figure out where to make the symlink for Epiphany. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Actually I did have a bit of trouble getting Java to work with Firefox, eventually I ended up compiling my own Java JDK, and you then need to simlink the correct Java plugin into the Firefox plugin folder... there are directions somewhere on the web, a search on Google should find them. Not exactly the most user friendly install. Sun should harry up and get it's act together. On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:24, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote: > > It only seems to work for me if I turn off *all* popup blocking, not > > just if I add stgeorge.com.au to the "allowed sites" list. Anyone got > > ideas on that one? > > Actually scratch that, it loads up > https://ibank.stgeorge.com.au/html/redirect.asp for me as a blank page > no matter what I do (popup blocking OFF). The login screen works on > Epiphany though, I just need to get Epiphany to use the Java plugin I > guess. > > -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004, Mary Gardiner wrote: > It only seems to work for me if I turn off *all* popup blocking, not > just if I add stgeorge.com.au to the "allowed sites" list. Anyone got > ideas on that one? Actually scratch that, it loads up https://ibank.stgeorge.com.au/html/redirect.asp for me as a blank page no matter what I do (popup blocking OFF). The login screen works on Epiphany though, I just need to get Epiphany to use the Java plugin I guess. -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Hmm, I do have popup blocking enabled... stgeorge.com.au is 'Allowed'. You probably know this already but make sure it's not www.stgeorge.com.au as the popup page comes from ibank.steorge.com.au (or something similar). I'm running Firefox 1.0 release 3. On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 10:19, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Wed, Dec 01, 2004, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > > I have to resurrect this one since I have humble pie to swallow on > > this one... St George Internet banking works on Firefox on Linux > > (without any user agent fixes mind you). How silly did I feel when I > > realized that recently I lost all my Linux settings, including > > Firefox's popup blocking settings. Doh! > > It only seems to work for me if I turn off *all* popup blocking, not > just if I add stgeorge.com.au to the "allowed sites" list. Anyone got > ideas on that one? > > -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
On Wed, Dec 01, 2004, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > I have to resurrect this one since I have humble pie to swallow on > this one... St George Internet banking works on Firefox on Linux > (without any user agent fixes mind you). How silly did I feel when I > realized that recently I lost all my Linux settings, including > Firefox's popup blocking settings. Doh! It only seems to work for me if I turn off *all* popup blocking, not just if I add stgeorge.com.au to the "allowed sites" list. Anyone got ideas on that one? -Mary -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Marek, Don't admit the bank was right vlad On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 09:29:10 +1100, Marek Wawrzyczny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all again, > > I have to resurrect this one since I have humble pie to swallow on this one... > St George Internet banking works on Firefox on Linux (without any user agent > fixes mind you). How silly did I feel when I realized that recently I lost > all my Linux settings, including Firefox's popup blocking settings. Doh! > > Humbly, > > Marek Wawrzyczny > > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:54, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking > > support in Australia. > > > > I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I > > cannot use it with Linux. > > <...> > > > Cheers, > > > > Marek Wawrzyczny > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Hi all again, I have to resurrect this one since I have humble pie to swallow on this one... St George Internet banking works on Firefox on Linux (without any user agent fixes mind you). How silly did I feel when I realized that recently I lost all my Linux settings, including Firefox's popup blocking settings. Doh! Humbly, Marek Wawrzyczny On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:54, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > Hi all, > > I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking > support in Australia. > > I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I > cannot use it with Linux. <...> > Cheers, > > Marek Wawrzyczny -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 00:33, Simon Males wrote: > Okay, > > It might be just me. Are you getting the exact problem as the post on > the 23rd of October... blank login screen ? > > http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/10/msg00526.html > > You fail to mention what you have tried: Marek did you try setting the > user agent to Windows (as which has been beaten to death on this list). > > I used to have to do this. Basically I do what DaZZa mentioned, as I > don't have to change anything any more. Make sure you have JVM 1.5 > installed and bank away (Mozilla suite and Firefox). I am using Linux (Gentoo), Sun's Java 1.5 installed. I am using Firefox (latest 1.0.x) browser (but also occasionally Konqueror). Firefox currently has a bug which prevents it from having a modified user agent when running Java. So, if I try to setting the user agent string to something else causes Firefox to crash and burn. Without changing the user agent, I don't even get to the login page. instead get the XP2 users page (ie browser not supported). -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Phill wrote: I found a long time ago that NAB works ok (I haven't checked recently as I do have to use window$ as my working environment). They use jsp pages so that should be platform independent. Yeah, I use NAB and despite a warning page (which you can suppress if you let it put a cookie on your machine) about an incompatible browser, I have no prob using Firefox 0.8 or higher on windoze. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.290 / Virus Database: 265.3.1 - Release Date: 15/11/2004 -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Okay, It might be just me. Are you getting the exact problem as the post on the 23rd of October... blank login screen ? http://lists.slug.org.au/archives/slug/2004/10/msg00526.html You fail to mention what you have tried: Marek did you try setting the user agent to Windows (as which has been beaten to death on this list). I used to have to do this. Basically I do what DaZZa mentioned, as I don't have to change anything any more. Make sure you have JVM 1.5 installed and bank away (Mozilla suite and Firefox). -- Simon Males <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No More AOL CDs Australia - www.anticd.org -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: got the typical "we don't support it" response. I mailed support with a request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I am sure achieved nothing. Apparently it's a problem which plagues Linux users all over the world. I think that using the point of "support non-Windows users" is actually really weak. Stronger points IMHO are: 1. IE is insecure and I, as a Windows user, am affraid to do my on-line banking through it (parhaps add pointers to stories about IE brekage and phishing scams) 2. The type of people who are suffisticated enough to install and use another browser are usually the type of people who would use on-line banking more an better - and after all it's the bank's interest that people will leave their tellers alone and use the Internet. The points above could be useful for any site, not just banks - shops, service providers etc... Cheers, --Amos -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: FW: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Yes, it used to be the case that they only supported the old MS JVM, but they now also support OS X where internet banking works on Safari (the Apple browser based on KDE's (Linux) Konqueror's KHTML engine, ironic isn't it?). Marek Wawrzyczny On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 14:30, Phill wrote: > I found a long time ago that NAB works ok (I haven't checked recently as I > do have to use window$ as my working environment). They use jsp pages so > that should be platform independent. > I have also put the question to St George and have found them to be very > helpful (NOT!). It (though I am not sure) could be that that they have > based there system on the old windows VW like the ATO has with their eBAS > system which (surprise, surpise) is not compatible with anything else but > windows > > Phill > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > Of Marek Wawrzyczny > Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 1:55 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux > > Hi all, > > I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking > > support in Australia. > > I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I > cannot > use it with Linux. > > Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it > really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform > dependant. I > got the typical "we don't support it" response. I mailed support with a > request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The > responder > promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly > I > am sure achieved nothing. > > It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a > more > concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention > to > this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' > operating > system, it will fail to attract many users. > > In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true > unlimited > internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and > have > been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I > will > not hesitate giving them the flick. > > > Cheers, > > Marek Wawrzyczny > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
FW: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
I found a long time ago that NAB works ok (I haven't checked recently as I do have to use window$ as my working environment). They use jsp pages so that should be platform independent. I have also put the question to St George and have found them to be very helpful (NOT!). It (though I am not sure) could be that that they have based there system on the old windows VW like the ATO has with their eBAS system which (surprise, surpise) is not compatible with anything else but windows Phill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marek Wawrzyczny Sent: Friday, 19 November 2004 1:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux Hi all, I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking support in Australia. I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot use it with Linux. Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I got the typical "we don't support it" response. I mailed support with a request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I am sure achieved nothing. It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating system, it will fail to attract many users. In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will not hesitate giving them the flick. Cheers, Marek Wawrzyczny -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
I have recently switched over from Commonwealth, whose NetBank works on just about any browser, including Konqueror. However, St George Bank has better options for me. I'll be getting Crossover Office soon anyway and i know you can run IE on it, which works fine with StGeorge Netbank. Vlad On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:54:34 +1100, Marek Wawrzyczny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking > support in Australia. > > I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot > use it with Linux. > > Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it > really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I > got the typical "we don't support it" response. I mailed support with a > request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder > promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I > am sure achieved nothing. > > It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more > concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to > this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating > system, it will fail to attract many users. > > In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited > internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have > been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will > not hesitate giving them the flick. > > Cheers, > > Marek Wawrzyczny > -- > SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ > Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html > -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
Re: [SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
On Fri, 19 Nov 2004, Marek Wawrzyczny wrote: > I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot > use it with Linux. > > Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it > really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I > got the typical "we don't support it" response. I mailed support with a > request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder > promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I > am sure achieved nothing. > > It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more > concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to > this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating > system, it will fail to attract many users. You can try using this - this advice comes from someone who knows. More than that I cannot say. === Firefox 1.0 downloaded from linuxpackages.net JRE-1.5.0 downloaded from java.com (not the RPM) and doing (as root) cd /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/jdk1.5.0/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so . === > In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited > internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have > been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will > not hesitate giving them the flick. Try a credit union. They seem to Have A Clue when it comes to browser-independant internet banking. DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
[SLUG] St George internet banking on linux
Hi all, I just signed up to this ML after doing a search on Linux internet banking support in Australia. I am currently with St George and like in the post dated 23 Oct 2004 I cannot use it with Linux. Several months ago I did raise this issue with St George. I noted that it really takes quite an effort to make a Java application platform dependant. I got the typical "we don't support it" response. I mailed support with a request that they should honour the non-Windows non-Mac users. The responder promised passing on the information to the developers, which quite frankly I am sure achieved nothing. It always has been the case that one voice achieves nothing but perhaps a more concentrated request from a group of linux users may bring some attention to this problem. Without industry-wide acceptance of Linux as a 'real' operating system, it will fail to attract many users. In the meantime, can anyone recommend a bank that does offer true unlimited internet banking experience? It's sad since I quite like St George and have been with them for years but if they insist on being unreasonable then I will not hesitate giving them the flick. Cheers, Marek Wawrzyczny -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html
