Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
at the risk of being helpful, doug foskey delivered up the following on Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 12:15:03PM +1000, what it is usefull for: You could use it to compile a list of all of the questions you've asked and answers you've gotten from SLUG. A bit of perl and a webserver and you'll have the most complete linux documentation repository in the history of the world. Or do you have some other point other than rather snidely trying to say Voytek asks too many questions? DaZZa Have to agree with you: I think the previous comment was unwarranted, condescending. We need to give the newbies all the help we can, even if at times they need to RTFM. (Others like me pick up things from these postings, so we learn too.) Documentation is, I think one of the shortcomings of OS s/w. The s/w gets modded, but the Doco's are usually way behind. I agree with some of the above, however, I think mr green was attempting to be funny. for my money I found the comment quite humourous as I've asked so many simple questions by now that could have been easily looked up in the man pages or info docs that I can afford a laugh at such humour. look, there's always one that comes along tnat will ask question after question after question expecting the more advanced users to tell them straight off. let's be reasonable people, we can't expect those that have been in the game for years to answer our every question especially if the answer can be found in documentation. although, sometimes on the other hand, the answer isn't so obvious so in cases like that, the questions do get asked. I think to be fare, to all concerned just take the comment for what it was. an attempt at humour. -- Shaun Oliver Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow! EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 76958435 YAHOO: blindman01_2000 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: captain nemo 200 IRC: irc.awesomechat.net: IRCNICK: blindman CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile #mauisun -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tony Green wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 02:34, Voytek wrote: I have here Sun Sparcstation5 box with 32MB RAM and 1GB HD, plus 4GB HD, plus tape and some other bits, and, Solaris CDs: what it is usefull for: You could use it to compile a list of all of the questions you've asked and answers you've gotten from SLUG. A bit of perl and a webserver and you'll have the most complete linux documentation repository in the history of the world. I'm sorry - did I miss some announcement about the quota for asking questions on SLUG somewhere? Or do you have some other point other than rather snidely trying to say Voytek asks too many questions? DaZZa -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
On Sat, 2003-09-20 at 09:37, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm sorry - did I miss some announcement about the quota for asking questions on SLUG somewhere? Not that I know of, you could check the archives if you really wanted to. Or do you have some other point other than rather snidely trying to say Voytek asks too many questions? Nope, not at all, you hit the nail right on the head. Great perceptions there Dazza. -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Tony Green wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 02:34, Voytek wrote: I have here Sun Sparcstation5 box with 32MB RAM and 1GB HD, plus 4GB HD, plus tape and some other bits, and, Solaris CDs: what it is usefull for: You could use it to compile a list of all of the questions you've asked and answers you've gotten from SLUG. A bit of perl and a webserver and you'll have the most complete linux documentation repository in the history of the world. Tony, I was going to, but, I think I'd need a bigger hard drive to fit all the voytek-traffic, ;) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
what it is usefull for: You could use it to compile a list of all of the questions you've asked and answers you've gotten from SLUG. A bit of perl and a webserver and you'll have the most complete linux documentation repository in the history of the world. Or do you have some other point other than rather snidely trying to say Voytek asks too many questions? DaZZa Have to agree with you: I think the previous comment was unwarranted, condescending. We need to give the newbies all the help we can, even if at times they need to RTFM. (Others like me pick up things from these postings, so we learn too.) Documentation is, I think one of the shortcomings of OS s/w. The s/w gets modded, but the Doco's are usually way behind. (I must say that I am now actively involved with the Gnucash Docs, so am trying to do my bit. ) Regards Doug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 02:34, Voytek wrote: I have here Sun Sparcstation5 box with 32MB RAM and 1GB HD, plus 4GB HD, plus tape and some other bits, and, Solaris CDs: what it is usefull for: You could use it to compile a list of all of the questions you've asked and answers you've gotten from SLUG. A bit of perl and a webserver and you'll have the most complete linux documentation repository in the history of the world. voyoogle.com? -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 04:34:46PM +, Voytek wrote: - boat anchor ? Probably not heavy enough. - Solaris w/s ? - Linux w/s ? Graphical displays will probably be a tad laggy. - landfill ? Nah. Sparc hardware is cool. is 32MB usefull for anything productive ? what is SunSparc5 vintage 'equivalent to' on Intel CPU range: ? Probably a late 486 or early Pentium also, I now forgot what was the hot key combo to get it to boot from install CD ? from the ok prompt: boot cdrom Send a break down the serial line or Stop-A on the keyboard to get there. -Colin -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
I've got an SS4 as a logs box, the screen is sufficently large enough to fill this role. It's only got 32MB of RAM and has about the same crunch power as my Pentium 100MHz firewall but looks much cooler. Love those pizza boxen. Around about 1647h 17/09/2003, Colin Humphreys emitted the following wisdom: Probably a late 486 or early Pentium Early Pentium, but much more reliable. -- The real cause of your computer problem according to the BOFH: Root nameservers are out of sync -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
Pete de Zwart wrote:
I've got an SS4 as a logs box, the screen is sufficently large enough to fill
this role.
Linux or Solaris?
If Linux, could you tell me how you set up syslog to accept the remote
logging?
I want to log my ADSL router.
Unfortunately, my Solaris boxen that logged a Wireless Access Point died
and I can not work out the specs again (another bad doco area).
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Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 21:39, Terry Collins wrote: If Linux, could you tell me how you set up syslog to accept the remote logging? Add the '-r' option to the startup of syslog (check /etc/init.d/sysklogd - at least in debian) -- Tony Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
Around about 2139h 17/09/2003, Terry Collins emitted the following wisdom:
Linux or Solaris?
Linux.
If Linux, could you tell me how you set up syslog to accept the remote
logging?
syslogd needs the -r flag for remote reception, -s yourdomainname.here will
strip the superflous tail part of the domain name of the machines logging
to the logs box.
I've attached my Debian Woody /etc/init.d/sysklogd for people perusal
Good luck,
Pete de Zwart.
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#! /bin/sh
# /etc/init.d/sysklogd: start the system log daemon.
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
pidfile=/var/run/syslogd.pid
binpath=/sbin/syslogd
test -x $binpath || exit 0
# Options for start/restart the daemons
# For remote UDP logging use SYSLOGD=-r
#
SYSLOGD=-r -m 0 -s intranet.froob.net
create_xconsole()
{
if [ ! -e /dev/xconsole ]; then
mknod -m 640 /dev/xconsole p
else
chmod 0640 /dev/xconsole
fi
chown root.adm /dev/xconsole
}
running()
{
# No pidfile, probably no daemon present
#
if [ ! -f $pidfile ]
then
return 1
fi
pid=`cat $pidfile`
# No pid, probably no daemon present
#
if [ -z $pid ]
then
return 1
fi
cmd=`cat /proc/$pid/cmdline | tr \000 \n|head -1`
# No syslogd?
#
if [ $cmd != $binpath ]
then
return 1
fi
return 0
}
case $1 in
start)
echo -n Starting system log daemon: syslogd
create_xconsole
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $binpath -- $SYSLOGD
echo .
;;
stop)
echo -n Stopping system log daemon: syslogd
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --exec $binpath --pidfile $pidfile
echo .
;;
reload|force-reload)
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --signal 1 --exec $binpath --pidfile $pidfile
;;
restart)
echo -n Stopping system log daemon: syslogd
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --exec $binpath --pidfile $pidfile
echo .
sleep 1
echo -n Starting system log daemon: syslogd
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $binpath -- $SYSLOGD
echo .
;;
reload-or-restart)
if running
then
start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --signal 1 --exec $binpath --pidfile $pidfile
else
start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --exec $binpath -- $SYSLOGD
fi
;;
*)
echo Usage: /etc/init.d/sysklogd
{start|stop|reload|restart|force-reload|reload-or-restart}
exit 1
esac
exit 0
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Remote loggingRe: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
Tony Green wrote:
Add the '-r' option to the startup of syslog (check /etc/init.d/sysklogd
- at least in debian)
aah, that bit I know, but the rest seems to depend on an exact
combination of putting your right foot on your left shoulder, little
finger in..., etc, etc, and perusing the doco just isn't clear.
I just didn't see anything from the remote boxen in this case. Everyone
responses seems to indicate it should be that simple, which is worrying
when it doesn't just work.
BTW Debian Woody.
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Re: Remote loggingRe: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
quote who=Terry Collins Add the '-r' option to the startup of syslog (check /etc/init.d/sysklogd - at least in debian) aah, that bit I know, but the rest seems to depend on an exact combination of putting your right foot on your left shoulder, little finger in..., etc, etc, and perusing the doco just isn't clear. I just didn't see anything from the remote boxen in this case. Everyone responses seems to indicate it should be that simple, which is worrying when it doesn't just work. On your syslog receiving box, just add -r to the syslogd invocation, as described above. On your syslog sending boxes, just add a syslog destination line to syslog.conf, same as usual, but instead of specifying a log file, specify a logging host with @hostname (which you should probably add to /etc/hosts). man syslogd has a whole section on support for remote logging, which is pretty clear (at least on unstable, perhaps the woody one is poop, haven't checked). - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2004: Adelaide, Australia http://lca2004.linux.org.au/ No shit, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Mr. Bad -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: Remote loggingRe: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
Add the '-r' option to the startup of syslog (check /etc/init.d/sysklogd - at least in debian) aah, that bit I know, but the rest seems to depend on an exact combination of putting your right foot on your left shoulder, little finger in..., etc, etc, and perusing the doco just isn't clear. I just didn't see anything from the remote boxen in this case. Everyone responses seems to indicate it should be that simple, which is worrying when it doesn't just work. BTW Debian Woody. Server: /usr/sbin/syslogd -u (or -r? only got a bsd box to check on) on the server, and check that your letting port 514 - UDP in? You should also have a debug option for syslogd (-d), which should print all debugging to console, amd not background it. Client: /etc/syslod.conf: Change the log 'handle' from '/var/log/logfile' to '@remote_host' (and check 514 udp outwards) -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Sun Sparcstation5: useful for what ?
Terry Collins wrote:
...snip..
If Linux, could you tell me how you set up syslog to accept the remote
logging?
I want to log my ADSL router.
Unfortunately, my Solaris boxen that logged a Wireless Access Point died
and I can not work out the specs again (another bad doco area).
Okay folks. My thanks for the on and off list help.
I am going to can this thread atm.
In a moment of inspiration, I ran a TCPDUMP to see just what the ADSL
router was putting out. Its logging is mongrel snmp stuff. Well that is
all that came and went when remote logging was turned off and on at the
router. sheezh.
So I will go back and ask Netcomm just exactly what the remote logging
is and what I should be seeing in my logs.
It seems from the responses that this remote logging should be as easy
as adding -r and the redirection.
Thanks for responses.
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