Re: [SLUG] The Jedi Way

[CaT]

On Sun, Apr 08, 2001 at 02:20:58PM +1000, Howard Lowndes wrote:
> There is no valid reason for a question about religion.  In fact I seem to
> recall from earlier censii that it was an optional question anyway.

You only needed to complete 4 of the first 7 questions before they
would begrudgingly accept it as completed. That's any 4 of the first 7.

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Re: [SLUG] The Jedi Way

[Howard Lowndes]

There is no valid reason for a question about religion.  In fact I seem to
recall from earlier censii that it was an optional question anyway.

"Religion ... is the opium of the people" - Karl Marx, Critique of the
Hegelian Philosophy of Right.

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On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, David wrote:

> 
> Call yourself jedi, chrisian or bullamacanken .. 'sup to you..  What
> pisses me off severely is anyone deliberately fucking up census just
> because it's the "governemnt" (even little johnies version). These same
> fools are the first to complain if the ambulance doesn't arrive, there are
> pot holes in the road or no schools. The census has a perfectly valid
> function.. even the "religion" entry, and fools advocating fucking it up
> just make me ANGRY.
> 


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Re: [SLUG] The Jedi Way

[Jeff Waugh]

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Re: [SLUG] The Jedi Way

[David]

I wasn't going to add to this extremely off topic thread.. BUT...!

 

Call yourself jedi, chrisian or bullamacanken .. 'sup to you..  What
pisses me off severely is anyone deliberately fucking up census just
because it's the "governemnt" (even little johnies version). These same
fools are the first to complain if the ambulance doesn't arrive, there are
pot holes in the road or no schools. The census has a perfectly valid
function.. even the "religion" entry, and fools advocating fucking it up
just make me ANGRY.

OTOH, if you do want to put down "jedi", I can think of several ways that
could serve a useful purpose. I leave it to others to imagine what they
may be.

 On 7 Apr 01, at 10:17, DaZZa wrote:
> 
> > It also leaves you liable for a fine of up to $1000 for providing alse
> > information on your census.
> 
> WRONG. The census forms cannot be traced back to any single person. All their
> adverts say the same thing, your personally identifiable information is removed
> BEFORE processing of the census forms. In that case, how do they know who gave
> them false information?
> 
> Aussie
> (Having fun with census '01)
> 
> 
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[OT] Re: [SLUG] The Jedi Way

[Aussie]

On 7 Apr 01, at 10:17, DaZZa wrote:

> It also leaves you liable for a fine of up to $1000 for providing alse
> information on your census.

WRONG. The census forms cannot be traced back to any single person. All their
adverts say the same thing, your personally identifiable information is removed
BEFORE processing of the census forms. In that case, how do they know who gave
them false information?

Aussie
(Having fun with census '01)


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Re: [SLUG] The Jedi Way

[Terry Collins]

DaZZa wrote:

> Sure, you can put "Jedi" as your religion - however, without clear
> evidence of doctrine and some other requirements, it will NOT create it as
> a fact.
> 
> It also leaves you liable for a fine of up to $1000 for providing alse
> information on your census.

No, that would be religious persecution and we don't have a history of
doing that in Australia. You can have private religious belief that you
call "Jedi" and so long as you are willing to state that "Jedi" is your
religion, then so be it.

 
> Can't remember the URL, but it was published in The Age newspaper, and is
> online somewhere.

The ABS guy didn't seemed to fazed by it all. He just said that they
only count established religions and classify all the rest as other.
Religious classification is not used by the government in any way that I
know of, just by the established churches to get a measure of their
current market share.

Basically for Jedi to be classified as a religion, people need to
establish and document a belief system - that is all. So start putting
up those WWW of the Church of Jedi and next thing you know, you can be
come another religious parasite on the taxpayers of Australia (you gotta
love those tax exemptions available to churches).

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Re: [SLUG] The Jedi Way

[DaZZa]

On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Robert Smith wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the
> 7th. For those who don't know, a census is where the government gets
> your details like number of people in the house, religion, etc. It is
> this last point that some clever bunny has picked up on. If there are
> enough people in the country, about 10 000, who put down the same
> religion, it becomes a fully recognised and legal religion. It is for
> this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does not have a
> dominant religion put down "Jedi" as their religion.
>
>  So send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down "Jedi"
> as  their religion and we can have "Jedi Knights" running around. Yes,
> this is a Sci-Fi thing, but it will also fuck with the government. So if
>
> not because you love Star Wars, then just to annoy people.

The Australian Beureau of Statistics has posted information refuting this
story.

Sure, you can put "Jedi" as your religion - however, without clear
evidence of doctrine and some other requirements, it will NOT create it as
a fact.

It also leaves you liable for a fine of up to $1000 for providing alse
information on your census.

Can't remember the URL, but it was published in The Age newspaper, and is
online somewhere.

DaZZa


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Re: [SLUG] The Jedi Way

[James Wilkinson]

This one time, at band camp, Robert Smith said:
>I know this is of subject.
>ok So this one came to me from a freind and I just had to pass it on to
>every one .

Wasn't slug-chat built for this?

I'm too tired to flame you properly, so just pretend that I have.
Mainly because I've already got this 3 other times (at least you have
trimmed out all the fwd: junk around the message).

HAND.

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[SLUG] The Jedi Way

[Robert Smith]

I know this is of subject.
ok So this one came to me from a freind and I just had to pass it on to
every one .


Hi everybody,
As some of you may know there is a census coming around on August the
7th. For those who don't know, a census is where the government gets
your details like number of people in the house, religion, etc. It is
this last point that some clever bunny has picked up on. If there are
enough people in the country, about 10 000, who put down the same
religion, it becomes a fully recognised and legal religion. It is for
this reason that it has been suggested that anyone who does not have a
dominant religion put down "Jedi" as their religion.

 So send this on to all your friends and tell them to put down "Jedi"
as  their religion and we can have "Jedi Knights" running around. Yes,
this is a Sci-Fi thing, but it will also fuck with the government. So if

not because you love Star Wars, then just to annoy people.


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