Re: [SLUG] Traffic control

2012-02-27 Thread Jake Anderson
keep in mind that without mucking with it / addons squid wont proxy 
youtube (style) videos.


On 02/27/2012 11:56 AM, Matthew Hannigan wrote:

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:29:48PM +1100, Jim Donovan wrote:

Recently my ISP discontinued the ADSL plan I was on and put me on another plan 
with three times the bandwidth. This is fine however one of the kids likes 
watching YouTube and can now chew up a month's data in a few days.

[ .. ]

Jim,
I suggest using a caching proxy like squid.  They're very effective because 
kids tend to watch
the same vids over and over again.

You can set all sorts of limits within squid, too like time of day restrictions.

Matt




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Re: [SLUG] Traffic control

2012-02-27 Thread Christopher Barnes
'Tis true.

Infact these days with so much rich content like flash and websites serving so 
much dynamic content I don't really know what CAN be cached these days 
besides images and maybe some small binary files.

--Original Message--
From: Jake Anderson
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To: Matthew Hannigan
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Cc: Jim Donovan
Subject: Re: [SLUG] Traffic control
Sent: Feb 27, 2012 9:19 PM

keep in mind that without mucking with it / addons squid wont proxy 
youtube (style) videos.

On 02/27/2012 11:56 AM, Matthew Hannigan wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:29:48PM +1100, Jim Donovan wrote:
 Recently my ISP discontinued the ADSL plan I was on and put me on another 
 plan with three times the bandwidth. This is fine however one of the kids 
 likes watching YouTube and can now chew up a month's data in a few days.
 [ .. ]

 Jim,
 I suggest using a caching proxy like squid.  They're very effective because 
 kids tend to watch
 the same vids over and over again.

 You can set all sorts of limits within squid, too like time of day 
 restrictions.

 Matt



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Re: [SLUG] Traffic control

2012-02-26 Thread Matthew Hannigan

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 02:29:48PM +1100, Jim Donovan wrote:
 Recently my ISP discontinued the ADSL plan I was on and put me on another 
 plan with three times the bandwidth. This is fine however one of the kids 
 likes watching YouTube and can now chew up a month's data in a few days.
[ .. ]

Jim,
I suggest using a caching proxy like squid.  They're very effective because 
kids tend to watch
the same vids over and over again. 

You can set all sorts of limits within squid, too like time of day restrictions.

Matt


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Re: [SLUG] Traffic control

2012-02-24 Thread James Linder

On 25/02/2012, at 9:00 AM, slug-requ...@slug.org.au wrote:

 
 Recently my ISP discontinued the ADSL plan I was on and put me on another 
 plan with three times the bandwidth. This is fine however one of the kids 
 likes watching YouTube and can now chew up a month's data in a few days.
 
 I have warned him. I can let him do it and see how he feels about dropping 
 back to dial-up speed but the whole family will suffer with him.
 
 Or can I slow down his machine's consumption? One way of doing this might be 
 to run tc(2) on his machine however the doco hasn't been updated since 2.4 
 and doesn't seem to make much sense. Has anyone experience of doing policing 
 with tc(2), iptables(8) or anything else? Or could I alter said son's 
 machine's routing to use as gateway another machine running something to slow 
 data down.
 
 
 Any suggestions, please?
 
 Jim Donovan
 
 P.S. Not relevant to my problem however you sometimes see plans in which you 
 can burn a month's data in a few minutes. Why do people sign up for trash 
 like that?

Smackeral! my shoes would be on fire if my ISP migrated me from one plan to 
another. All reputable ISP will say behold our new toys. YOU may choose one. I 
really dont like iinet but they for one would offer you a fair deal.

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[SLUG] Traffic control

2012-02-23 Thread Jim Donovan
Recently my ISP discontinued the ADSL plan I was on and put me on another plan 
with three times the bandwidth. This is fine however one of the kids likes 
watching YouTube and can now chew up a month's data in a few days.

I have warned him. I can let him do it and see how he feels about dropping back 
to dial-up speed but the whole family will suffer with him.

Or can I slow down his machine's consumption? One way of doing this might be to 
run tc(2) on his machine however the doco hasn't been updated since 2.4 and 
doesn't seem to make much sense. Has anyone experience of doing policing with 
tc(2), iptables(8) or anything else? Or could I alter said son's machine's 
routing to use as gateway another machine running something to slow data down.


Any suggestions, please?

Jim Donovan

P.S. Not relevant to my problem however you sometimes see plans in which you 
can burn a month's data in a few minutes. Why do people sign up for trash like 
that?
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Re: [SLUG] Traffic control

2012-02-23 Thread Ken Foskey


Simple approach is to add youtube.com into the hosts file at 8:00 at night 
and remove it at 9:00am not shaping but easy to do.


I have also implemented squid and this has some real shaping potential. 
Slowing him down on youtube will reduce his consumption.




-Original Message- 
From: Jim Donovan

Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 2:29 PM
To: slug@slug.org.au
Subject: [SLUG] Traffic control

Recently my ISP discontinued the ADSL plan I was on and put me on another 
plan with three times the bandwidth. This is fine however one of the kids 
likes watching YouTube and can now chew up a month's data in a few days.


I have warned him. I can let him do it and see how he feels about dropping 
back to dial-up speed but the whole family will suffer with him.


Or can I slow down his machine's consumption? One way of doing this might be 
to run tc(2) on his machine however the doco hasn't been updated since 2.4 
and doesn't seem to make much sense. Has anyone experience of doing policing 
with tc(2), iptables(8) or anything else? Or could I alter said son's 
machine's routing to use as gateway another machine running something to 
slow data down.



Any suggestions, please?

Jim Donovan

P.S. Not relevant to my problem however you sometimes see plans in which you 
can burn a month's data in a few minutes. Why do people sign up for trash 
like that?

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Re: [SLUG] Traffic control

2012-02-23 Thread Jake Anderson

On 02/24/2012 02:29 PM, Jim Donovan wrote:

Recently my ISP discontinued the ADSL plan I was on and put me on another plan 
with three times the bandwidth. This is fine however one of the kids likes 
watching YouTube and can now chew up a month's data in a few days.

I have warned him. I can let him do it and see how he feels about dropping back 
to dial-up speed but the whole family will suffer with him.

Or can I slow down his machine's consumption? One way of doing this might be to 
run tc(2) on his machine however the doco hasn't been updated since 2.4 and 
doesn't seem to make much sense. Has anyone experience of doing policing with 
tc(2), iptables(8) or anything else? Or could I alter said son's machine's 
routing to use as gateway another machine running something to slow data down.


Any suggestions, please?

Jim Donovan

P.S. Not relevant to my problem however you sometimes see plans in which you 
can burn a month's data in a few minutes. Why do people sign up for trash like 
that?
Cant help with your particular problem (outside of using a firewall with 
traffic shaping) but to comment on your P.S


I don't use much data, but I do what high speed, when i get my lolcats i 
want them now dammit, but i don't torrent movies or whatever so i don't 
need too many of the gigabytes.
My ideal plan would be ~100gbyte (lots of breathing room, 50 would do) 
at 100mbit.


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