Re: [SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad?
G'day GripZ... err Grant and all... Actually it's the MYOB locking methodology rather than the MS Windows behaviour ... Warmest regards Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Network Administrator Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 Grant Parnell - EverythingLinux [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/07/2003 01:26 PM To:Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: [SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad? Just out of curiousity, are you using the vnet setup or the other one? I think for this situation the Win4Lin would probably benefit from having it's own IP address. At least it's something to try to benchmark. A quirky alternative might be to smbmount the relevant directory on the server itself but I'm thinking this won't help since it's the Window's locking behaviour you're trying to trigger but you never know till you try. On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Stuart Guthrie wrote: Just wondering if anyone else has a major performance issue with running Win4Lin Server edition (within that MYOB Premier Accounts). I'm accessing a samba network drive from within the copy of win4lin so that the MYOB data can be shared across a company. This works OK for Win98 clients accessing the data, speed is OK. From Win4Lin, it sucks. Performance is about 1/5 the speed or worse. Accessing MYOB data directly from Win4Lin to file on same Linux Box is as fast as I could expect. Unfortunately, this will not allow the MYOB data file to be shared with the other users. Only accessing via MS Networking will allow this and that slows it down big time. I've also emailed support @ Netraverse but so far (ie 3 days ago) no response. As an alternative, has anyone tried crossover office with MYOB in Network 'file share' mode? Stu -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - senior consultant EverythingLinux services - the consultant's backup tech support. Web: http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/services We're also busybits.com.au and linuxhelp.com.au. Phone 02 8752 6622 to book service or discuss your needs. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad?
Just out of curiousity, are you using the vnet setup or the other one? I think for this situation the Win4Lin would probably benefit from having it's own IP address. At least it's something to try to benchmark. A quirky alternative might be to smbmount the relevant directory on the server itself but I'm thinking this won't help since it's the Window's locking behaviour you're trying to trigger but you never know till you try. On Mon, 7 Jul 2003, Stuart Guthrie wrote: Just wondering if anyone else has a major performance issue with running Win4Lin Server edition (within that MYOB Premier Accounts). I'm accessing a samba network drive from within the copy of win4lin so that the MYOB data can be shared across a company. This works OK for Win98 clients accessing the data, speed is OK. From Win4Lin, it sucks. Performance is about 1/5 the speed or worse. Accessing MYOB data directly from Win4Lin to file on same Linux Box is as fast as I could expect. Unfortunately, this will not allow the MYOB data file to be shared with the other users. Only accessing via MS Networking will allow this and that slows it down big time. I've also emailed support @ Netraverse but so far (ie 3 days ago) no response. As an alternative, has anyone tried crossover office with MYOB in Network 'file share' mode? Stu -- ---GRiP--- Grant Parnell - senior consultant EverythingLinux services - the consultant's backup tech support. Web: http://www.everythinglinux.com.au/services We're also busybits.com.au and linuxhelp.com.au. Phone 02 8752 6622 to book service or discuss your needs. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad?
Thanks Mike In summary. Mike's point fixed this problem and now the multi-user access to MYOB is faster under Win4Lin than from a Win98 PC. This I like. The problem was back to good old permissions. It's still a bit unclear why Samba which assigns file permissions as the user logged on was different to the user logging on directly and assigning file permissions from win4lin. I've redefined the umask so that it will not happen again. Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuart, If you're accessing the data file locally, check that the permissions for the files and directories are the same as if from samba. MYOB achieves filesharing of data files via lockfiles, if one user logs into MYOB (creates a lockfile), and the other user can't read or modify that lockfile they will not be able to use the same MYOB data file under MYOB. I hope this is clear, and from the looks of things, its probably what's happening. (Ie. you access locally and it locks other users out as they don't have the priveleges to read/modify the lockfile.) Warmest regards Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Network Administrator Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 *Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/07/2003 04:35 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad? Just wondering if anyone else has a major performance issue with running Win4Lin Server edition (within that MYOB Premier Accounts). I'm accessing a samba network drive from within the copy of win4lin so that the MYOB data can be shared across a company. This works OK for Win98 clients accessing the data, speed is OK. From Win4Lin, it sucks. Performance is about 1/5 the speed or worse. Accessing MYOB data directly from Win4Lin to file on same Linux Box is as fast as I could expect. Unfortunately, this will not allow the MYOB data file to be shared with the other users. Only accessing via MS Networking will allow this and that slows it down big time. I've also emailed support @ Netraverse but so far (ie 3 days ago) no response. As an alternative, has anyone tried crossover office with MYOB in Network 'file share' mode? Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad?
Thanks for the acknowlegement Stu, MYOB can be a tad tricky because of that... I find the create-mask, directory-mask and force-group options of the MYOB setting to be useful. (Unsure that group permissions are set correctly.) Once you know it though, it's a breeze... Warmest regards Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Network Administrator Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/07/2003 07:24 AM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: [SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad? Thanks Mike In summary. Mike's point fixed this problem and now the multi-user access to MYOB is faster under Win4Lin than from a Win98 PC. This I like. The problem was back to good old permissions. It's still a bit unclear why Samba which assigns file permissions as the user logged on was different to the user logging on directly and assigning file permissions from win4lin. I've redefined the umask so that it will not happen again. Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stuart, If you're accessing the data file locally, check that the permissions for the files and directories are the same as if from samba. MYOB achieves filesharing of data files via lockfiles, if one user logs into MYOB (creates a lockfile), and the other user can't read or modify that lockfile they will not be able to use the same MYOB data file under MYOB. I hope this is clear, and from the looks of things, its probably what's happening. (Ie. you access locally and it locks other users out as they don't have the priveleges to read/modify the lockfile.) Warmest regards Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Network Administrator Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 *Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED]* Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/07/2003 04:35 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad? Just wondering if anyone else has a major performance issue with running Win4Lin Server edition (within that MYOB Premier Accounts). I'm accessing a samba network drive from within the copy of win4lin so that the MYOB data can be shared across a company. This works OK for Win98 clients accessing the data, speed is OK. From Win4Lin, it sucks. Performance is about 1/5 the speed or worse. Accessing MYOB data directly from Win4Lin to file on same Linux Box is as fast as I could expect. Unfortunately, this will not allow the MYOB data file to be shared with the other users. Only accessing via MS Networking will allow this and that slows it down big time. I've also emailed support @ Netraverse but so far (ie 3 days ago) no response. As an alternative, has anyone tried crossover office with MYOB in Network 'file share' mode? Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
[SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad?
Just wondering if anyone else has a major performance issue with running Win4Lin Server edition (within that MYOB Premier Accounts). I'm accessing a samba network drive from within the copy of win4lin so that the MYOB data can be shared across a company. This works OK for Win98 clients accessing the data, speed is OK. From Win4Lin, it sucks. Performance is about 1/5 the speed or worse. Accessing MYOB data directly from Win4Lin to file on same Linux Box is as fast as I could expect. Unfortunately, this will not allow the MYOB data file to be shared with the other users. Only accessing via MS Networking will allow this and that slows it down big time. I've also emailed support @ Netraverse but so far (ie 3 days ago) no response. As an alternative, has anyone tried crossover office with MYOB in Network 'file share' mode? Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
Re: [SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad?
Stuart, If you're accessing the data file locally, check that the permissions for the files and directories are the same as if from samba. MYOB achieves filesharing of data files via lockfiles, if one user logs into MYOB (creates a lockfile), and the other user can't read or modify that lockfile they will not be able to use the same MYOB data file under MYOB. I hope this is clear, and from the looks of things, its probably what's happening. (Ie. you access locally and it locks other users out as they don't have the priveleges to read/modify the lockfile.) Warmest regards Mike --- Michael S. E. Kraus Network Administrator Capital Holdings Group (NSW) Pty Ltd p: (02) 9955 8000 Stuart Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/07/2003 04:35 PM To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:[SLUG] Win4Lin MYOB - is it really this bad? Just wondering if anyone else has a major performance issue with running Win4Lin Server edition (within that MYOB Premier Accounts). I'm accessing a samba network drive from within the copy of win4lin so that the MYOB data can be shared across a company. This works OK for Win98 clients accessing the data, speed is OK. From Win4Lin, it sucks. Performance is about 1/5 the speed or worse. Accessing MYOB data directly from Win4Lin to file on same Linux Box is as fast as I could expect. Unfortunately, this will not allow the MYOB data file to be shared with the other users. Only accessing via MS Networking will allow this and that slows it down big time. I've also emailed support @ Netraverse but so far (ie 3 days ago) no response. As an alternative, has anyone tried crossover office with MYOB in Network 'file share' mode? Stu -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group - http://slug.org.au/ More Info: http://lists.slug.org.au/listinfo/slug
